if "remake" means "slow it and dumb it down so that people can play it with console controllers" then please don't do it
No, please, we need more FPS with 30 MPH soldiers on cocaine that absorb bullets like paintballs and can hit a mellon with a revolver at two football field lengths. Based on your logic, UT would be an "intelligent" game while MAG or L4D are "dumbed down" because the gameplay doesn't revolve entirely around how fast you can aim?
I'm sorry, what is the reason that all FPS should move at unrealistically high speed & accuracy or make use of a bazillion keys? Do you know what it's like to fire a rifle at a moving target? Go play paintball for Christ's sake. See how much time you are running and gunning vs. taking cover & using suppressive fire. I guess that's "dumb".
What's intelligent about two people with mice in a knife fight? Is all the frustrating high speed turning supposed to simulate sophisticated ninja like parry skills? What about driving or flying with a mouse? That is intelligent, or in your world FPS have no such things?
You're right, FPS could be more intelligent. Unfortunately, that's not what you think it is.
BTW, anyone notice the Helo controls got a little "dumb" in Bad Company 2? Huh, wonder if it had anything to do with the PC port.
Yeah but what "market" are we talking about here? I've walked around a lot of enterprises and I haven't seen many tablets, Windows or otherwise. My understanding has always been that except for individual enthusiasts, the markets (plural) for Windows Tablets have traditionally been verticals
Are NEVER going to take off until they are really useful for something and less than $200. Otherwise, of course we all buy netbooks. They're extremely useful, and you can get a great one for about $200.
Tablets are WAY over priced right now. There is NO killer app worth $1000, and that's what they end up costing after 6 months on contract.
Any business owner anywhere will tell you that cutting costs is important to them, and this is a cost they can cut before it even comes up!
Dude, Corporate smartphone with data service vs. iPad & comped cell bill Bonus round Which one can double as a thin client?
I'm not sure I'd say the iPad has "stolen the market". Nearly every presentation I've been in/been a part of still has a laptop as the primary source of information. An ipad is great to carry around if you're just trying to get email. If you're trying to do any real work, it fails miserably.
They probably haven't infiltrated you company yet. They're a Blackberry replacement. Win-win, those with them can detach from work at the end of the day, and the business doesn't pay service charges.
Everyone else will continue using their laptops for 99% of their business oriented tasks, and keep their iPad's around when they don't want to lug around a full laptop, and don't need to get any "real work" done.
free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny
Ah, back when the Internet was supposed to fix everything, and all information was true.
We have free flowing water and people are perpetually dehydrated. Aside from non-authoritative information being hard to digest even for very intelligent people, you can't make others learn or comprehend the "truth" any better than a tyrant can.
Which religion is true? Will freer flow of information bring the world to agreement on that? Now those are run by _nice_ people. How does free flow of information stop a tyrant, if the cruelty and oppression doesn't?
I have a new quote for you. A transparent tyrant is still a tyrant.
Umm no. It will be in the default kernal eventually and that works out-of-the-box. The idea that user friendliness is "pasting some lines to bashrc and running some commands" and that "user friendliness" should be left up to distros rather than the main line for Linux is pretty much one of the reasons Linux has never really mattered on the desktop and why 95% of computer users prefer Windows or Macs.
This whole thing sounds horrible, either way. Scheduling user owned sessions equally vs. giving the foreground application scheduling priority like OS X & Windows. I know kernel & userland integration is not a hot spot for Linux, but come on... we all know this is wrong.
What makes this really annoying is that a lot of.mil sites use self-signed certificates. When doing mil-2-mil browsing, you just get used to clicking whatever to get into the site. So, I can easily see how China could do a MITM without alarming any of the end users.
More commonly, I remember hostnames in URLs not matching the one in the otherwise legit DoD certificate, or clients that didn't have the DoD CA's loaded. Sometimes the main site would load, then redirect you to a site with a broken cert. All the same result that you mentioned. I guess that's the difference between paying $$$ for a certificate and getting them for free from your NOC, you're more inclined to make sure a commercial $$$ certificate is used properly.
With a licence agreement that forbids you from actually using it for anything. Want to use it? You need to pay Oracle a load of money, and they may not even let you do that unless you replace all your hardware with stuff supplied by them.
"limited License to use the Programs only for the purpose of developing, testing, prototyping and demonstrating your applications, and not for any other purpose." I don't know where you are getting "for anything" from, this is in plain, non-legaleze English. If you already pay for Solaris support, AFAIK, this is also covered, and you can use it for whatever, like in a Nexenta for example. My God, they have given you the source to most of it, and there are other community supported binary distributions of that.
I know paying to use something is hard to understand, and paying to use something with restrictions more so, and using something for free with restrictions even more so, but I'll leave you with this. Is there any reason for not being as grateful for any part of this being free, than you are grateful that any part of any FOSS is free at all? I feel a strong sense of entitlement on/. sometimes.
Where in either Free Software or Open Source philosophy is "all software should be this way" prescribed??
Solaris had it's shot at being something the Slashdot crowd could pick up and run with, but given that you can't use Solaris for anything useful now I'm not sure how this qualifies as news. Solaris is now a very high-end OS that's as relevant to people as AIX is, because that's the only feasible place it can survive now.
Why, because it's not "cool" or it doesn't meet some technical criteria? Is there really no space between IBM midrange hardware running AIX and the "Slashdot crowd"? I'm thinking that's a shockingly large amount of space.
He's talking about OpenSolaris... The open source branch. He's right about that, it's effectively been killed.
Technically, that open source branch has not been killed, OpenSolaris the distribution has been rebranded as Solaris Express and supposedly the source will be released following binary releases rather than leading it. There are other projects based on that source that predate OpenSolaris, and then there is OpenIndiana which is supposedly going to be to Solaris as CentOS is to RHEL. Something like that anyway.
All this OpenSolaris is dead talk amuses me. If anyone gave a damn about it, they'd simply be waiting for Solaris Express 11 that was announced when OS "died" or working with the other community driven Solaris distros with real communities. If you don't give a damn... what's this all about?
So in reality, it's just a way to show off, an try to keep people from jumping ship to linux. It's definitely the antithesis of FOSS -- nothing is free about it.
Oh, an enemy of Linux is an enemy of FOSS, is that your argument? Do we care?
It's possible the submitter requests open source because he doesn't trust running closed source software on his machine, which would make Google Docs kosher, as it's 100% web-based.
Services like LegalSounds have been selling songs (from large labels, too) without DRM for $1 for the better part of a decade. Of course, they never gained the publicity of Apple
I don't know, but I'd guess the lack of DRM is probably what held them back, by limiting their catalog.
I'm not trying to say that what Apple did wasn't good. Just saying that adding "...with a computer" to what Wallmart was doing wasn't that massive step, especially when smaller companies around the world had already began doing it.
Apple was in the fortunate position to provide all of "speed bump" DRM, low prices, store front and hardware integration. You're right, not a massive step, but a significant one. Did Walmart figure people were still listening to CD's on Walkmans or something? I guess if they had any intention of selling digital music they would have done something by now, but who knows.
Linux isn't exactly an ultrascalable high-performance OS either. If you were building a supercomputer operating system from the start you'd make very different design decisions than Linus did.
Have you ever paid attention to the OS trends in the Top500? All the proprietary OSes are disappearing. It used to be nearly all proprietary Unix and BSD. Now it's 91 percent Linux.
Linux doesn't scale? It fits in toasters and supercomputers. I think that's pretty good scaling if you ask me.
So do other proprietary and open OSes, as you yourself mentioned. Oh, but I forgot this is a popularity contest, and the immutable, doubleplusgood Linux is and always has been designed with extreme outward AND upward scaling in mind and excels above all else at it.
Sun embraced JRuby, it is fully supported in their GlasshFish J2EE application server. It can host most well behaved rails apps inside JRuby runtimes. There was even a GlassFish Ruby gem Sun maintained. Pretty badass how well Ruby & Java mesh at the rails/j2ee level. All you needed was the GF gem, a rackup script, and maybe jdbc-mysql gem.
From what I've read the GF gem maintainers didn't make the Oracle transition, but hopefully the community can pick that up. http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1759/abppa?a=view JRuby, Jython, Grails are still supported in the latest Oracle branded Glassfish
A lot of things bug me about the Ruby language, but running it on a bulletproof Java application server lets me sleep better at night. Someday, MRI might be suitable for the enterprise, but not today, not for Ruby 1.8.x
Airdrop internet enabled cellphones. Lots of them. Access to all ideas and the ability to post undeletable photographic evidence of all shit going on. Think "Singularity Sky"...
Why? I mean what good would that do here? I thought the Internet itself was supposed to bring enlightenment across the world? It spreads information, not truth. People choose what to believe based on the worst possible logic. If we jacked everyone's brain directly into the thing would that finally do it? Look at the bullcrap in ONE Slashdot forum. Does the Internet really solve the problem you think it does?
Maybe you just don't understand what makes people tick.
It is not that simple, I am afraid. Religion is but a tool of control here. Get those guys off religion and they will act like before, just basing their crap on "racial supremacy", "manifest destiny" or some other bullshit along this lines.
We, ourselves, are not free from this. Look at the amount of "kill brown people" posts that topics like this brings up every time on slashdot. The true root of barbarism is an unreflected "We are different, therefore you are inferior". This mechanism exists entirely independent of religion, though I agree that religion mostly does not help.
What is needed is a strong & just government. Blaming other religions/cultures excuses one from acknowledging their own government keeping theirs in check.
The accomplishments you speak of aren't attributable to Islam any more than the Renaissance is attributable to Christianity.
Well if you wont grant any positive accomplishments to either religion, then the balance sheet very clearly shows that Islam needs a few hundred more years to catch up on the atrocities committed in the name of christian God.
Long term, Islam and civilization are mutually exclusive. Currently, civilization is losing.
I think you should open a damned textbook and look at the history of Islam and other world religions before making that sweeping claim.
What an ignorant thing to say.
More accurate would be "Religion and civilization are mutually exclusive" Is the damage it has done worth it? That's a serious question. Theocracy or not, the world's powers would have found something to squabble over for sure. At least land & resources is more transparent than man in the sky.
You have the luxury (I assume) to sit back and relax in a country with a very muted religious influence (by design), and ignore the reason for it. Don't blame the world's problems on someone else's religion completely ignoring the fact that it took major governmental changes to get to this state. You should hold this up as a big gleaming reminder of WHY we have a separation of church and state, and never forget what we were without it.
Dude, I did the exact same thing but with my Xbox 360. Just didn't deliver what I was expecting, and too darned expensive, especially game titles! I can't see myself buying another Microsoft console anytime soon, and boy was I a fanboi.
The problem is that to be a compatible Java implementation you must pass the TCK. To get a hold of the TCK you must agree that your Java implementation has a limited field of use, namely desktop computers. That means you have to add a clause to your licence that tells your users where they can use the software - no such clause exists in any open source licence I'm aware of.
Why should open source software get industry certifications for free.. in any sense of free?
That is the real question here.
"Since August 2006, the ASF has been attempting to secure an acceptable license from Sun for the test kit for Java SE. This test kit, called the "Java Compatibility Kit" or "JCK", is needed by the Apache Harmony project to demonstrate its compatibility with the Java SE specification, as required by Sun's specification license."
Read carefully, Apache needs what? Java certification, with no strings. Because, you know, open source just isn't open if you can't get it certified. If UNIX certification requirements stated "you can't use the color purple on Mondays" nobody would bother certifying their Linux distributions as UNIX. OH WAIT, NOBODY DOES THAT ALREADY, BECAUSE IT'S OPEN SOURCE AND WE DON'T GIVE A SQUAT ABOUT CERTIFICATIONS. Unless you're Apache, then it's OK because Slashdot says so.
Why is it so important to Apache that any Java implementation be certified with an open toolkit, for free? I'm sorry, you have the specification, reference source, and free reign to modify and redistribute that. Why should certifying it as "Java" come without a price?
We can draw parallels to other projects very easily. Solaris is (mostly I think) open source, but the POSIX certification is not, and not free. Should OpenIndiana care?
Why does an open source foundation demand free industry certification? ??!
Slashdot Mirror
if "remake" means "slow it and dumb it down so that people can play it with console controllers" then please don't do it
No, please, we need more FPS with 30 MPH soldiers on cocaine that absorb bullets like paintballs and can hit a mellon with a revolver at two football field lengths. Based on your logic, UT would be an "intelligent" game while MAG or L4D are "dumbed down" because the gameplay doesn't revolve entirely around how fast you can aim?
I'm sorry, what is the reason that all FPS should move at unrealistically high speed & accuracy or make use of a bazillion keys?
Do you know what it's like to fire a rifle at a moving target? Go play paintball for Christ's sake. See how much time you are running and gunning vs. taking cover & using suppressive fire. I guess that's "dumb".
What's intelligent about two people with mice in a knife fight? Is all the frustrating high speed turning supposed to simulate sophisticated ninja like parry skills? What about driving or flying with a mouse? That is intelligent, or in your world FPS have no such things?
You're right, FPS could be more intelligent. Unfortunately, that's not what you think it is.
BTW, anyone notice the Helo controls got a little "dumb" in Bad Company 2? Huh, wonder if it had anything to do with the PC port.
Yeah but what "market" are we talking about here? I've walked around a lot of enterprises and I haven't seen many tablets, Windows or otherwise. My understanding has always been that except for individual enthusiasts, the markets (plural) for Windows Tablets have traditionally been verticals
You're all looking at the wrong market.
Are NEVER going to take off until they are really useful for something and less than $200. Otherwise, of course we all buy netbooks. They're extremely useful, and you can get a great one for about $200.
Tablets are WAY over priced right now. There is NO killer app worth $1000, and that's what they end up costing after 6 months on contract.
Any business owner anywhere will tell you that cutting costs is important to them, and this is a cost they can cut before it even comes up!
Dude,
Corporate smartphone with data service vs. iPad & comped cell bill
Bonus round
Which one can double as a thin client?
Durr?
I'm not sure I'd say the iPad has "stolen the market". Nearly every presentation I've been in/been a part of still has a laptop as the primary source of information. An ipad is great to carry around if you're just trying to get email. If you're trying to do any real work, it fails miserably.
They probably haven't infiltrated you company yet. They're a Blackberry replacement. Win-win, those with them can detach from work at the end of the day, and the business doesn't pay service charges.
Everyone else will continue using their laptops for 99% of their business oriented tasks, and keep their iPad's around when they don't want to lug around a full laptop, and don't need to get any "real work" done.
Exactly, like a Blackberry. Genius, isn't it?
free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny
Ah, back when the Internet was supposed to fix everything, and all information was true.
We have free flowing water and people are perpetually dehydrated. Aside from non-authoritative information being hard to digest even for very intelligent people, you can't make others learn or comprehend the "truth" any better than a tyrant can.
Which religion is true? Will freer flow of information bring the world to agreement on that? Now those are run by _nice_ people. How does free flow of information stop a tyrant, if the cruelty and oppression doesn't?
I have a new quote for you. A transparent tyrant is still a tyrant.
Umm no. It will be in the default kernal eventually and that works out-of-the-box. The idea that user friendliness is "pasting some lines to bashrc and running some commands" and that "user friendliness" should be left up to distros rather than the main line for Linux is pretty much one of the reasons Linux has never really mattered on the desktop and why 95% of computer users prefer Windows or Macs.
This whole thing sounds horrible, either way. Scheduling user owned sessions equally vs. giving the foreground application scheduling priority like OS X & Windows. I know kernel & userland integration is not a hot spot for Linux, but come on... we all know this is wrong.
What makes this really annoying is that a lot of .mil sites use self-signed certificates. When doing mil-2-mil browsing, you just get used to clicking whatever to get into the site. So, I can easily see how China could do a MITM without alarming any of the end users.
More commonly, I remember hostnames in URLs not matching the one in the otherwise legit DoD certificate, or clients that didn't have the DoD CA's loaded. Sometimes the main site would load, then redirect you to a site with a broken cert. All the same result that you mentioned. I guess that's the difference between paying $$$ for a certificate and getting them for free from your NOC, you're more inclined to make sure a commercial $$$ certificate is used properly.
With a licence agreement that forbids you from actually using it for anything. Want to use it? You need to pay Oracle a load of money, and they may not even let you do that unless you replace all your hardware with stuff supplied by them.
"limited License to use the Programs only for the purpose of developing, testing, prototyping and demonstrating your applications, and not for any other purpose."
I don't know where you are getting "for anything" from, this is in plain, non-legaleze English. If you already pay for Solaris support, AFAIK, this is also covered, and you can use it for whatever, like in a Nexenta for example. My God, they have given you the source to most of it, and there are other community supported binary distributions of that.
I know paying to use something is hard to understand, and paying to use something with restrictions more so, and using something for free with restrictions even more so, but I'll leave you with this. Is there any reason for not being as grateful for any part of this being free, than you are grateful that any part of any FOSS is free at all? I feel a strong sense of entitlement on /. sometimes.
Where in either Free Software or Open Source philosophy is "all software should be this way" prescribed??
Solaris had it's shot at being something the Slashdot crowd could pick up and run with, but given that you can't use Solaris for anything useful now I'm not sure how this qualifies as news. Solaris is now a very high-end OS that's as relevant to people as AIX is, because that's the only feasible place it can survive now.
Why, because it's not "cool" or it doesn't meet some technical criteria? Is there really no space between IBM midrange hardware running AIX and the "Slashdot crowd"?
I'm thinking that's a shockingly large amount of space.
He's talking about OpenSolaris... The open source branch. He's right about that, it's effectively been killed.
Technically, that open source branch has not been killed, OpenSolaris the distribution has been rebranded as Solaris Express and supposedly the source will be released following binary releases rather than leading it. There are other projects based on that source that predate OpenSolaris, and then there is OpenIndiana which is supposedly going to be to Solaris as CentOS is to RHEL.
Something like that anyway.
All this OpenSolaris is dead talk amuses me. If anyone gave a damn about it, they'd simply be waiting for Solaris Express 11 that was announced when OS "died" or working with the other community driven Solaris distros with real communities. If you don't give a damn... what's this all about?
So in reality, it's just a way to show off, an try to keep people from jumping ship to linux. It's definitely the antithesis of FOSS -- nothing is free about it.
Oh, an enemy of Linux is an enemy of FOSS, is that your argument? Do we care?
It's possible the submitter requests open source because he doesn't trust running closed source software on his machine, which would make Google Docs kosher, as it's 100% web-based.
I think you're all nuts.
Disaster awaits if something isn't done about this...
The FUD is strong in this one.
Services like LegalSounds have been selling songs (from large labels, too) without DRM for $1 for the better part of a decade. Of course, they never gained the publicity of Apple
I don't know, but I'd guess the lack of DRM is probably what held them back, by limiting their catalog.
I'm not trying to say that what Apple did wasn't good. Just saying that adding "...with a computer" to what Wallmart was doing wasn't that massive step, especially when smaller companies around the world had already began doing it.
Apple was in the fortunate position to provide all of "speed bump" DRM, low prices, store front and hardware integration. You're right, not a massive step, but a significant one.
Did Walmart figure people were still listening to CD's on Walkmans or something? I guess if they had any intention of selling digital music they would have done something by now, but who knows.
Linux isn't exactly an ultrascalable high-performance OS either. If you were building a supercomputer operating system from the start you'd make very different design decisions than Linus did.
Have you ever paid attention to the OS trends in the Top500? All the proprietary OSes are disappearing. It used to be nearly all proprietary Unix and BSD. Now it's 91 percent Linux.
Here's a graph showing the demise of Unix in the Top500
http://www.top500.org/overtime/list/36/osfam
Linux doesn't scale? It fits in toasters and supercomputers. I think that's pretty good scaling if you ask me.
So do other proprietary and open OSes, as you yourself mentioned. Oh, but I forgot this is a popularity contest, and the immutable, doubleplusgood Linux is and always has been designed with extreme outward AND upward scaling in mind and excels above all else at it.
Silly me.
Sun embraced JRuby, it is fully supported in their GlasshFish J2EE application server. It can host most well behaved rails apps inside JRuby runtimes.
There was even a GlassFish Ruby gem Sun maintained. Pretty badass how well Ruby & Java mesh at the rails/j2ee level. All you needed was the GF gem, a rackup script, and maybe jdbc-mysql gem.
From what I've read the GF gem maintainers didn't make the Oracle transition, but hopefully the community can pick that up.
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/821-1759/abppa?a=view
JRuby, Jython, Grails are still supported in the latest Oracle branded Glassfish
A lot of things bug me about the Ruby language, but running it on a bulletproof Java application server lets me sleep better at night. Someday, MRI might be suitable for the enterprise, but not today, not for Ruby 1.8.x
Airdrop internet enabled cellphones. Lots of them. Access to all ideas and the ability to post undeletable photographic evidence of all shit going on. Think "Singularity Sky"...
Why? I mean what good would that do here? I thought the Internet itself was supposed to bring enlightenment across the world? It spreads information, not truth. People choose what to believe based on the worst possible logic. If we jacked everyone's brain directly into the thing would that finally do it? Look at the bullcrap in ONE Slashdot forum. Does the Internet really solve the problem you think it does?
Maybe you just don't understand what makes people tick.
It is not that simple, I am afraid. Religion is but a tool of control here. Get those guys off religion and they will act like before, just basing their crap on "racial supremacy", "manifest destiny" or some other bullshit along this lines.
We, ourselves, are not free from this. Look at the amount of "kill brown people" posts that topics like this brings up every time on slashdot. The true root of barbarism is an unreflected "We are different, therefore you are inferior". This mechanism exists entirely independent of religion, though I agree that religion mostly does not help.
What is needed is a strong & just government. Blaming other religions/cultures excuses one from acknowledging their own government keeping theirs in check.
The accomplishments you speak of aren't attributable to Islam any more than the Renaissance is attributable to Christianity.
Well if you wont grant any positive accomplishments to either religion, then the balance sheet very clearly shows that Islam needs a few hundred more years to catch up on the atrocities committed in the name of christian God.
Long term, Islam and civilization are mutually exclusive. Currently, civilization is losing.
I think you should open a damned textbook and look at the history of Islam and other world religions before making that sweeping claim.
What an ignorant thing to say.
More accurate would be "Religion and civilization are mutually exclusive"
Is the damage it has done worth it? That's a serious question. Theocracy or not, the world's powers would have found something to squabble over for sure. At least land & resources is more transparent than man in the sky.
You have the luxury (I assume) to sit back and relax in a country with a very muted religious influence (by design), and ignore the reason for it. Don't blame the world's problems on someone else's religion completely ignoring the fact that it took major governmental changes to get to this state. You should hold this up as a big gleaming reminder of WHY we have a separation of church and state, and never forget what we were without it.
That's nothing, in X-Plane, a highly regarded flight physics simulator, the trees look like ass and you can't even destroy them!
Dude, I did the exact same thing but with my Xbox 360. Just didn't deliver what I was expecting, and too darned expensive, especially game titles! I can't see myself buying another Microsoft console anytime soon, and boy was I a fanboi.
We should have traded or something.
The problem is that to be a compatible Java implementation you must pass the TCK. To get a hold of the TCK you must agree that your Java implementation has a limited field of use, namely desktop computers. That means you have to add a clause to your licence that tells your users where they can use the software - no such clause exists in any open source licence I'm aware of.
Why should open source software get industry certifications for free.. in any sense of free?
That is the real question here.
"Since August 2006, the ASF has been attempting to secure an
acceptable license from Sun for the test kit for Java SE. This
test kit, called the "Java Compatibility Kit" or "JCK", is needed
by the Apache Harmony project to demonstrate its compatibility
with the Java SE specification, as required by Sun's specification
license."
Read carefully, Apache needs what? Java certification, with no strings. Because, you know, open source just isn't open if you can't get it certified.
If UNIX certification requirements stated "you can't use the color purple on Mondays" nobody would bother certifying their Linux distributions as UNIX. OH WAIT, NOBODY DOES THAT ALREADY, BECAUSE IT'S OPEN SOURCE AND WE DON'T GIVE A SQUAT ABOUT CERTIFICATIONS. Unless you're Apache, then it's OK because Slashdot says so.
Why is it so important to Apache that any Java implementation be certified with an open toolkit, for free?
I'm sorry, you have the specification, reference source, and free reign to modify and redistribute that. Why should certifying it as "Java" come without a price?
We can draw parallels to other projects very easily. Solaris is (mostly I think) open source, but the POSIX certification is not, and not free. Should OpenIndiana care?
Why does an open source foundation demand free industry certification? ??!
What is your list of cons?