I had some free time after stuffing my face with Greased Turkey(tm), so I compiled 2.4.15-pre8 for ext3 support. Then, when I got to work this morning, I found out that Linus had not only released 2.4.15, but also 2.5! Damn, damn, damn!
So, X gets out of school and looks for a Mac, and finds out they cost too much. He goes to a WorstBuy, grabs a computer off the self with *groan* Windows. "It looks like crap, but it's close enough, and besides all the businesses use it". *nix won't even occur to him.:(
The only attempt to get beyond the current 1984 Xerox/Apple/Microsoft interface that I know of was MS Bob. I don't think it was quite as bad as people say, but it had 2 fatal flaws.
1. It needed a huge amount of hardware: that killed it for the casual user.
2. It had no flexibility, and could only handle what MS built into it: that killed it for the power user.
"Others have pointed out that this minimal interpretation is often simply not enough. My problem is your desire to keep the US outside of history. The success of strict constructionism suggests that this desire is common in America. The constiution was written in the eightenth century. Wouldn't it be strange indeed if someone in the eighteent century was prescient enough to provide with his imagination for all eternity. The Muslim fundamentalists believe exactly the same about a text written in the seventh century. Granted, 1200 years is a lot of time, but do you doubt that one day the literal meaning of the US constitution will be as outdated as the literal meaning of the Koran? Historically, cultures that sanctify the literal meaning of their founding documents turn up as the great losers. Successful cultures keep their founding documents in constant flux, using them to anchor themselves in the past but not to bury themselves in the past. "
The whole IDEA behind the US Constitution is that Government cannot be trusted and requires checks and balances to keep them from screwing us! Has that changed in the last 200 years? Hell no! I don't think that will change in the next 1200 years! Thomas Jefferson never imagined a big metal flying machine bringing down a giant building full of people, but he sure the hell could foresee Government using a tragedy as an excuse for a power grab!
IMO, what killed BOB was the RAM. BOB needed a bare minimum of 8 Megs at a time when a $2,500 box came with 4. The people most likely to have more RAM were the power-users, who clearly thought BOB sucked!
There's a big difference between "sanitizing" language and real censorship. If I call you a ***king @$$hole, you know exactly what I mean, even though the actual words are bleeped out. If an airline safety report is deleted for "security reasons" you don't even know it exists - unless you're a terrorist who already has a copy of the info.
I, Cro Magnon, hereby give authority on what drugs I may put in my body, whether I smoke, whether I drink, what kinds of windows I use, what kinds of sex I may engage in, to others such that these things may be decided by THEM and not by me. I hereby revoke my decision making in this matter and leave it entirely and completely up to their whim, whatever it may be. This is irrevocable.
I feel comfortable signing this statement. Of course I have no idea who THEY are, but I trust THEM completly, and I know THEY'LL always make all such decisions in my best interest no matter who THEY are.
"No your analogy is ridiculous, since you're not comparing kinds. Not to mention there is no real difference between the republicans and democrats.
Republicans and Democrats is more like comparing Windows 98 and Windows ME. Neither works worth
a shit. "
Very true!
"Linux is a kernel, FreeBSD is a distribution. You can compare the BSD kernel with linux, or FreeBSD with Debian or Mandrake, but you can't compare
OpenBSD with linux, any more than you can compare W2K with linux (unless you're just comparing kernels). "
One thing that annoys me is when BSD'rs claim BSD is better than Linux because it's an OS and Linux is just a kernel. RedHat, Debian, and Slackware ARE OS's, and while FBSD might claim superiority over RedHat, it's not because it's any less of an OS than FBSD.
Guess what! I don't pay for online news either! I go to free news sites. I might, possibly, pay for pr0n, except that, as soon as I hit one of those sites, I get thousands of pop-ups that cripple my browser!
Let the big corparations charge a penny a page for their business sites. Then when they all go out of business because nobody ever visits their sites, maybe we'll stop hearing about this nonsense!
KDE 1.X was plenty fast, but butt-ugly.
KDE 2.0 was extremly slow, and much less stable than 1.X
KDE 2.1 was stable and not as slow as 2.0, but still way too slow.
KDE 2.2 looks the best of whole lot, but it's just as slow as 2.1.
I've used several distros, and I'm not happy with any of them OOTB. RH and its brethren have a Windows-like look and feel, and seem rigid. Debian has a sophisticated package manager, but I've seen it choke, Potato is too old, Woody too unreliable. And LinuxFromScratch is a god-awful amount of work just to get something that barely boots! That leaves Slackware. It has problems OOTB too, but I've found it much easier to get things done my way, without an "advanced" package manager fighting me every step. If I want program XYZ, I can just install it without bringing in a bunch of cruft that I may not need. If I do need some of that cruft, it takes more effort, but I'm rewarded with a more relyable system than either RH or Debian. If I ever create a "MyLinux 1.0" it will have a noticeable similarity to Slackware.
I've never had any trouble with RR on an "unsupported" OS. The install tech noticed that I was using Linux but didn't say much about it. I did have to reboot to Windows 98 for the install.
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I belive RH patched their 2.4.9 kernel so it doesn't have that hole.
Yup! I've seen pictures of the primitive mammals that survived the dinosaur era, and they didn't look that much different from mice.
I plan to, after I get home from work.
I had some free time after stuffing my face with Greased Turkey(tm), so I compiled 2.4.15-pre8 for ext3 support. Then, when I got to work this morning, I found out that Linus had not only released 2.4.15, but also 2.5! Damn, damn, damn!
So, X gets out of school and looks for a Mac, and finds out they cost too much. He goes to a WorstBuy, grabs a computer off the self with *groan* Windows. "It looks like crap, but it's close enough, and besides all the businesses use it". *nix won't even occur to him. :(
Have you seen the Slackware forums lately? Until this weekend I would have agreed that Slack wasn't dying, but now I'm not so sure. :(
The only attempt to get beyond the current 1984 Xerox/Apple/Microsoft interface that I know of was MS Bob. I don't think it was quite as bad as people say, but it had 2 fatal flaws.
1. It needed a huge amount of hardware: that killed it for the casual user.
2. It had no flexibility, and could only handle what MS built into it: that killed it for the power user.
"Others have pointed out that this minimal interpretation is often simply not enough. My problem is your desire to keep the US outside of history. The success of strict constructionism suggests that this desire is common in America. The constiution was written in the eightenth century. Wouldn't it be strange indeed if someone in the eighteent century was prescient enough to provide with his imagination for all eternity. The Muslim fundamentalists believe exactly the same about a text written in the seventh century. Granted, 1200 years is a lot of time, but do you doubt that one day the literal meaning of the US constitution will be as outdated as the literal meaning of the Koran? Historically, cultures that sanctify the literal meaning of their founding documents turn up as the great losers. Successful cultures keep their founding documents in constant flux, using them to anchor themselves in the past but not to bury themselves in the past. "
The whole IDEA behind the US Constitution is that Government cannot be trusted and requires checks and balances to keep them from screwing us! Has that changed in the last 200 years? Hell no! I don't think that will change in the next 1200 years! Thomas Jefferson never imagined a big metal flying machine bringing down a giant building full of people, but he sure the hell could foresee Government using a tragedy as an excuse for a power grab!
IMO, what killed BOB was the RAM. BOB needed a bare minimum of 8 Megs at a time when a $2,500 box came with 4. The people most likely to have more RAM were the power-users, who clearly thought BOB sucked!
There's a big difference between "sanitizing" language and real censorship. If I call you a ***king @$$hole, you know exactly what I mean, even though the actual words are bleeped out. If an airline safety report is deleted for "security reasons" you don't even know it exists - unless you're a terrorist who already has a copy of the info.
They ARE mutually exclusive! Nobody with Education and Information would eat at McDonalds! :)
I, Cro Magnon, hereby give authority on what drugs I may put in my body, whether I smoke, whether I drink, what kinds of windows I use, what kinds of sex I may engage in, to others such that these things may be decided by THEM and not by me. I hereby revoke my decision making in this matter and leave it entirely and completely up to their whim, whatever it may be. This is irrevocable.
I feel comfortable signing this statement. Of course I have no idea who THEY are, but I trust THEM completly, and I know THEY'LL always make all such decisions in my best interest no matter who THEY are.
"No your analogy is ridiculous, since you're not comparing kinds. Not to mention there is no real difference between the republicans and democrats.
Republicans and Democrats is more like comparing Windows 98 and Windows ME. Neither works worth
a shit. "
Very true!
"Linux is a kernel, FreeBSD is a distribution. You can compare the BSD kernel with linux, or FreeBSD with Debian or Mandrake, but you can't compare
OpenBSD with linux, any more than you can compare W2K with linux (unless you're just comparing kernels). "
One thing that annoys me is when BSD'rs claim BSD is better than Linux because it's an OS and Linux is just a kernel. RedHat, Debian, and Slackware ARE OS's, and while FBSD might claim superiority over RedHat, it's not because it's any less of an OS than FBSD.
Lately, Linus has been releasing a new 2.4 version every month (sometimes more). Will you continue at that pace, or slow it down?
Guess what! I don't pay for online news either! I go to free news sites. I might, possibly, pay for pr0n, except that, as soon as I hit one of those sites, I get thousands of pop-ups that cripple my browser!
Let the big corparations charge a penny a page for their business sites. Then when they all go out of business because nobody ever visits their sites, maybe we'll stop hearing about this nonsense!
1. It was a terrorist attack. That means airport security still sux, and I'm not going on a plane until that changes.
2. It was an accident. That means airport maintaince sux, and I'm not going on a plane until that changes.
IMO, it's the opposite. If a genre takes itself too seriously, it's probably knocking on death's door.
Yeah, I'd pimp out my g/f before giving up my cablemodem!
KDE 1.X was plenty fast, but butt-ugly.
KDE 2.0 was extremly slow, and much less stable than 1.X
KDE 2.1 was stable and not as slow as 2.0, but still way too slow.
KDE 2.2 looks the best of whole lot, but it's just as slow as 2.1.
I have a love/hate relationship with KDE2. Love the look, hate the speed (or lack of it).
I am a professional programmer, but I use all my brains on the job so there's nothing left over for my /. posts! :)
Linus Changelog: 2.4.15-pre1 fixed stuff.
AC Changelog: 2.4.14-ac1 security fix. See www.anywhere_but_us.com for details.
I've used several distros, and I'm not happy with any of them OOTB. RH and its brethren have a Windows-like look and feel, and seem rigid. Debian has a sophisticated package manager, but I've seen it choke, Potato is too old, Woody too unreliable. And LinuxFromScratch is a god-awful amount of work just to get something that barely boots! That leaves Slackware. It has problems OOTB too, but I've found it much easier to get things done my way, without an "advanced" package manager fighting me every step. If I want program XYZ, I can just install it without bringing in a bunch of cruft that I may not need. If I do need some of that cruft, it takes more effort, but I'm rewarded with a more relyable system than either RH or Debian. If I ever create a "MyLinux 1.0" it will have a noticeable similarity to Slackware.
I've never had any trouble with RR on an "unsupported" OS. The install tech noticed that I was using Linux but didn't say much about it. I did have to reboot to Windows 98 for the install.