It's scaling well in clockspeed, the 2.2Ghz Northwood is barely faster than the 1.67Ghz AlthonXP though...
so I'd argue that it's not scaling quite so well for performance.
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I'd argue that the weak IPC (especially FP) has more to do with the P4's weakass floating point execution unit than the length of the pipeline, yes, branch mispredicts to hurt performance, but the performance they are hurting isn't all that high anyway:/
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the Althon has a double pumped 133Mhz bus (equivalent bandwidth to a normal 266Mhz bus)
the P4 on the other hand, has a QUAD pumped 100Mhz bus (equivalent to a normal 400Mhz bus)
there's a reason the P4 lays the smack down in memory benchmarks guys... ('tis a shame it sits around doing nothing with the data it actually gets from memory though:)
Althons are faster because the core itself is MUCH faster per clock, lets see..
P4 x87 FPU = single execution unit
Althon x87 FPU = THREE execution units
the Althon is something of a brute force design, but it's an ELEGANT brute force design:)
the side pulls away and the entire mainboard is on the panel that swings down..
Whilst there are some cases that have drivebay rails (I'm assuming that's what you mean by clips?) I have yet to see an ATX case as consistantly well designed as a PowerMac case (even if I don't particularly like the way they look;p)
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Applications that look totally different to the rest of the OS bug me, this includes (but is not limited to)
Windows Media player
winamp
trillian
ICQ
etc etc
IMHO, all applications running under an OS, should look LIKE the OS, and work in a similar manner (from a GUI standpoint)
"Your kidding? 1) who still is entertained by that?"
A lot of old dos games are pretty damn good, and have a lot of replay value.. (Syndicate Wars anyone?)
It's scaling well in clockspeed, the 2.2Ghz Northwood is barely faster than the 1.67Ghz AlthonXP though...
so I'd argue that it's not scaling quite so well for performance.
I'd argue that the weak IPC (especially FP) has more to do with the P4's weakass floating point execution unit than the length of the pipeline, yes, branch mispredicts to hurt performance, but the performance they are hurting isn't all that high anyway :/
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the Althon has a double pumped 133Mhz bus (equivalent bandwidth to a normal 266Mhz bus)
the P4 on the other hand, has a QUAD pumped 100Mhz bus (equivalent to a normal 400Mhz bus)
there's a reason the P4 lays the smack down in memory benchmarks guys... ('tis a shame it sits around doing nothing with the data it actually gets from memory though
Althons are faster because the core itself is MUCH faster per clock, lets see..
P4 x87 FPU = single execution unit
Althon x87 FPU = THREE execution units
the Althon is something of a brute force design, but it's an ELEGANT brute force design
sadly, no, it's a WinXP based device..
:)
a PowerMac-In-Your-Pocket would be really rather cool though
Am I the only one who sees a market for these are mini-servers?
a box that size sat ontop of the network switch, acting as NAT/Firewall/Counterstrike server/whatever else for a small lan?
sure, it wouldn't be all that cost effective, but it would certainly be space effective.
Inefficient?.. no
using models with 20x the polygons of the games of a few years ago, yes.
Don't confuse slowdown due to added features with random code bloat..
they CAN be related, but it's not inherent.
You think BeOS and AmigaOS suck?.
what?
granted, AmigaOS didn't know what a network was OOTB, and BeOS wasn't all that great as a server platform..
but how, praytell, does that make them suck?
actually, IIRC, no mac ever shipped with a 68040 faster than 40Mhz
then Apple brought in the PowerPC 601, whilst a few Amiga's were released with 68060's
as for the ram, FPM ram is quite a bit more expensive that SDram (which itself has been going back up in price)
in addition, an Amiga with 10MB will be really quite usable because the OS only needs a few hundred KB
Is that Speedstep P3 a Coppermine or Tualatin? the Tualatins run WAAAAY cooler.
He did clearly state that it wasn't a stock Amiga 1200 :)
;)
stock amiga 1200's didn't have 50Mhz 68040's, or for that matter gigabytes of harddisk space
You've never opened a powermac?
;p)
the side pulls away and the entire mainboard is on the panel that swings down..
Whilst there are some cases that have drivebay rails (I'm assuming that's what you mean by clips?) I have yet to see an ATX case as consistantly well designed as a PowerMac case (even if I don't particularly like the way they look
fyi, you can quite easily do the same with a Powermac :)
SGI and Apple cases are like PC cases, only easier to get into :) (iMac aside)
Hear Hear.
:), but x86? *retch*)
(at least they could have the decency to dump Sun for stuff based on the Power4
"you cannot stream sequentially off of 2 drives without saturating an ATA-100 cable."
Um, I was under the impression that ATA didn't support concurrent transfers?..
I've got a hunch that the dual PowerMac is doing so badly in Quake3 due to the PC133 memory bandwidth holding the processors back..
Are you talking about OSX or MacOS 9.x and previous versions?
(the GUI's are VERY VERY VERY VERY different)
Okay, could someone please tell me why that was modded down?...
(yes, this is offtopic)
well, what, in your opinion.. IS a friendly OS?
It sure as hell isn't linux+KDE (as much as certain people would like to claim it is, it's just nowhere near polished enough)
AmigaOS?
the NV17(-M) is NOT a Geforce 4 level product (it's the part to replace the Geforce2Go in the notebook arena)
the Geforce 4MX should (apparently) outpace a Ti500 slightly.
I should point out that the Mac had the Geforce 3 slightly before everyone else did. (only a couple of days, but hey, they WERE first)
crunching digital video = video compression, not playback. (the altivec unit is something of a beast of videocompression code :)
The GF4 release is only 9 days away or so. (allegedly)
uh..
the G4 is the processor, the GF4(GeForce) is the videocard...
hence, the G4's speed up photoshop...