"If he doesn't understand how AIDS can be transmitted, UNKNOWINGLY, through normal means, blood transfusions, sex with a partner claiming he/she is safe, etc. then he shouldn't be commenting. "
You know damn well that great majority of people who got AIDS did not get it in "innocent" ways listed by you.
Please stop pretending that AIDS can strike anyone at anytime and there is nothing we can do about it.
"The motivation can be, and should be, something other than cold hard cash."
Sorry, you are dreaming.
People have tried system based on other values and all of them eventually degenerated into perverted and much more dangerous version of good, old "cold hard cash" society.
It simply is not going to work. You are fighting against human nature.
The only reason I engaged in this discussion is because couple of weeks ago I read an article in Chicago Tribune describing alarming growth of AIDS cases among gays ( specially Black gays.)
The author attributed this to complete stonewalling from gay organization which are busy fighting any attempt by link AIDS with gay lifestyle.
Basically, these people were claiming that gays lifestyle does not bring greater risk of AIDS infection.
Personally, I have nothing against gays as long as they do not impose their sexual preferences on me.
So did Russians where there were no private pharmaceutical companies.
Where is that "advanced" Russian 100% public-founded pharmaceutical industry now ?
Or do you believe that Russians are inferior and you and your country would do much better ?
What a piece of crap.
This is precisely how Staling,Hitler and others justified ANY sort of abuse - you are not beneficial and society can revoke your right to anything.
No, but if somebody starts treating any sort of problem as an emergency giving him right to do whatever they want,then you have a much greater problem.
Don't tell me you are that stupid to believe that companies will continue making products that costs millions to develop to have someone grab their research and start selling it for 1/10 ?
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"Does he even understand what 'seperation of church and state' means? "
What this has to do with the topic at hand ?
I know people who are anything but religious zelots and are still against this research.
They are. Most likely it was their parents who engaged in unsafe behaviour.
The point is that AIDS is not "God's will" type of disease.
If they are morons how the hell do they manage to have all that money. ....
Unless others who work for them are even bigger morons
"If he doesn't understand how AIDS can be transmitted, UNKNOWINGLY, through normal means, blood transfusions, sex with a partner claiming he/she is safe, etc. then he shouldn't be commenting. "
You know damn well that great majority of people who got AIDS did not get it in "innocent" ways listed by you.
Please stop pretending that AIDS can strike anyone at anytime and there is nothing we can do about it.
Funny you mention that ...
That is exactly what they were doing whenever and wherever White man found them.
". I would say that's enough for them to keep innovating. "
And how did you arrive at that ?
"that drug companies making money is more important than saving lives. "
You have it all wrong.
No, drug companies should be making money so they can save lives.
Without them this whole discusion is pointless.
"Of course, the drug companies wanted nothing to do with this."
Don't they have a right to do whatever they want ?
"on profiteering charges"
What the hell is that ?
Isn't all business about "profiteering" ?
What do you mean ?
I find US healt care much more superior to anything I experienced in Europe ( and I lived there for about 20 years)
"The motivation can be, and should be, something other than cold hard cash."
Sorry, you are dreaming.
People have tried system based on other values and all of them eventually degenerated into perverted and much more dangerous version of good, old "cold hard cash" society.
It simply is not going to work. You are fighting against human nature.
Who do you care ?
You don't exist.
"You need to chill out on the gay bashing. "
The only reason I engaged in this discussion is because couple of weeks ago I read an article in Chicago Tribune describing alarming growth of AIDS cases among gays ( specially Black gays.)
The author attributed this to complete stonewalling from gay organization which are busy fighting any attempt by link AIDS with gay lifestyle.
Basically, these people were claiming that gays lifestyle does not bring greater risk of AIDS infection.
Personally, I have nothing against gays as long as they do not impose their sexual preferences on me.
No, it is a choice of having unprotected sex with great number of partners which gays are famous for.
"They are the victims, just as have been a tremendous number of hemophiliacs"
Hell no.
They are the victims by their own choice.
A huge difference if you ask me.
"I pay taxes to fund public research"
So did Russians where there were no private pharmaceutical companies.
Where is that "advanced" Russian 100% public-founded pharmaceutical industry now ?
Or do you believe that Russians are inferior and you and your country would do much better ?
He is not condemning anyone, you stupid fuck.
Most of the victims are so thanks to their own careless behavior.
"to see a rich white man get millions upon millions"
If it weren't for that rich white man we wouldn't have anything to discuss here, would we ?
"not helping people who are at risk is considered a crime"
So is in US.
Get your facts streight before posting this sort of crap.
"to heal the ill in society and turned to being a profitable business "
It did when somebody noticed that people will work much harder and have better results when given opportunity to get rich.
What a piece of crap.
This is precisely how Staling,Hitler and others justified ANY sort of abuse - you are not beneficial and society can revoke your right to anything.
"Boeing, for example, gets billions to develop military craft"
Well, these military crafts are the best in the world so what is your point here ?
We get what we ordered.
No, but if somebody starts treating any sort of problem as an emergency giving him right to do whatever they want,then you have a much greater problem.
Don't tell me you are that stupid to believe that companies will continue making products that costs millions to develop to have someone grab their research and start selling it for 1/10 ?
"This US-imposed tax on knowledge is more like a famous UK-imposed tax on tea"
What a piece of crap.
US-imposed tax is there to recoup huge costs of R&D.
There is NO limitation on R&D - anyone can come up with their own drugs.