Well, gays contributed AIDS as it was first recorded among them.
And please do not bullshit here about lack of relation between gay lifestiles and much greater rates of AIDS among them.
How is that different than typical insurance beside the fact that goverment run programs ussually have much greater rate of waste and corruption as compared to privately run ones ?
"meld the simple concept of the GUI, with the incredible power offered by the "plug one program into another into another" power of the command line and scripting languages in such a way that is accessible to the majority of people"
Well, lot of GUI programs do offer quite advanced scripting ( MS Office being prime example) but the problem is that going from simple GUI Word functionality to VB scripting is not one step up.
For most people it is like 10 stories up and that is why hardly anybody bothers with learning this stuff.
If you have some ideas how to bridge that gap then more power to you.
You know how this is going to end ?
Countries that do not respect IP laws will be simply denied access to the Internet.
And I woudn't have a problem with that.
"How exactly is it freeloading to use free software? It is provided for free and its use is encouraged by those who create it."
Sure, it encourages culture of free stuff which if taken to its logical end, would result int up hurting people who make living writing software.
I don't have anything against people who write free stuff ( I do that too) but I am against various "revolutionists" like RMS who want to do away completely with any sort of notion of commercial software.
I find that very dangerous and disruptive to my profession.
These people maybe be very vocal about "new economy" but they are yet to prove that concept in any meaningful way.
"? Living in a world with the DMCA, the ??AA groups, BSA license audits, "
What is wrong with that? We do recognize intellectual property as a valuable asset and consequently we do enforce violations of relevant laws.
You want to Linux in schools? Sure, we can have it there , we already have Apple, MS and other Unices...
This is technical issue and as such should not be polluted with ideological ramblings of some guys who, most likely, will be forgotten in the next 20 or 30 years.
Remember, this is NOT an ideological issue but strictly technical matter.
Sure but most people do not need to convert thousands of BMPs into JPEGs and whatever else you came up with.
Original poster was claiming that GUIs "dumb people down" which is ridiculous and denies ordinary people right to use computers ( to write letters, check email or even browse the web)
Freeloaders mentality, that's what you mean right ?
"a chapter in the computer literacy class about the GPL and the mentality behind it"
No, we are talking here about technical education and polluting their minds with leftist crap from RMS front is NOT what I want my tax money to be spent on.
I don't mind Linux being used there, but keep that stupid ideology out of there.
Strapped for cash my ass...
Most of these schools have greater budget per student than private institutions.
It is problem of rational management not funding.
Remember you are NOT talking about high-end workstations but about PCs running Linux.
Anything you can do with Linux ( OS independend things as physic, chemistry etc) can be done on the same box running Windows.
Unless you are talking about using VI or Emacs but these have NOTHING to do with "advanced engineering skills".
What if she does not want to ?
Are you going to deny her option to be a secretary ?
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Bullshit. It was a device used to classify and count people - quite generic if you ask me.
Remember, it is only a device, just like a gun is a tool.
Ultimately, Nazis were responsible for extermination NOT machines.
These people are looking for ways to squeeze IBM for some money.
"but as far as the media and now Joe sixpack are concerned"
You ARE Joe sixpack and if you think you are better or above him then you are starting from the wrong foot in the first place.
"These protesters have very real concerns and are being ignored by the media, and subsequently the public at large. "
Their only message is "I oppose this, I oppose that" without providing ANY alternative.
For the most part they are completely ignorant fucks having fun protesting things ( cannot blame them for that much, youngsters need to burn that excessive energy in some way)
"I am proud to be a citizen, and I am proud when I can contribute to the society that I live in. "
You should not measure your contribution to society by how much you are paying in taxes UNLESS you believe that we are unable to sustain society where people are responsible for their own lives ( which how America worked for the last 200 years.)
I am much more grateful for MS and Ford for creating tens of thousands of jobs then for whatever they put in their corporate taxes
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There were probably hundreds of companies selling various products to pre-war Germany which later were utilized by Nazis to do whatever they did.
Are you going to sue them all ?
Where does that insanity end ?
Once I read some guy writing that Jews pretty much made business out of Holocaust and it looks like he was right and this business is going very well. First extortion and blackmailing of Swiss banks, now IBM...
Aren't we on technical site , discussing "stuff for geeks " ??
I would NEVER trust any software that is driven by ideology instead of standard pursue of excellence.
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What if these "rich people" will decide to go to Brasil since their drugs are 20 times cheaper ?
Well, gays contributed AIDS as it was first recorded among them.
And please do not bullshit here about lack of relation between gay lifestiles and much greater rates of AIDS among them.
How is that different than typical insurance beside the fact that goverment run programs ussually have much greater rate of waste and corruption as compared to privately run ones ?
"Roche is relying on artificial IP laws. "
Dude, without these laws there won't be Roche or their drugs.
"So it *is* becoming Free Software. "
No it is not.
My definition of free software does not include restricting licenses like GPL.
Next time, amend it to say "FSF style Free Software".
"meld the simple concept of the GUI, with the incredible power offered by the "plug one program into another into another" power of the command line and scripting languages in such a way that is accessible to the majority of people"
Well, lot of GUI programs do offer quite advanced scripting ( MS Office being prime example) but the problem is that going from simple GUI Word functionality to VB scripting is not one step up.
For most people it is like 10 stories up and that is why hardly anybody bothers with learning this stuff.
If you have some ideas how to bridge that gap then more power to you.
"Russia's take on Sklyarov's eBook processor vs the US's take. one country thinks it protects the consumers rights to IP they paid for"
...
I guess most powerful and influential state will win here.
Not like it has not happened before
"She was struggling with the Windows explorer GUI, trying to move a file. "
...
Hmm
Does she often strugle like that ?
"not to mention that the OS is just as stable as Win98"
Sure, one hell of a OS where ANY game can bring the whole thing down.
"for twice what you paied for it, it is legal. "
This land has nothing to do with McDonalds while domain McDonalds.com clearly does.
Does that still look the same to you ?
You know how this is going to end ?
Countries that do not respect IP laws will be simply denied access to the Internet.
And I woudn't have a problem with that.
"How exactly is it freeloading to use free software? It is provided for free and its use is encouraged by those who create it."
...
Sure, it encourages culture of free stuff which if taken to its logical end, would result int up hurting people who make living writing software.
I don't have anything against people who write free stuff ( I do that too) but I am against various "revolutionists" like RMS who want to do away completely with any sort of notion of commercial software.
I find that very dangerous and disruptive to my profession.
These people maybe be very vocal about "new economy" but they are yet to prove that concept in any meaningful way.
"? Living in a world with the DMCA, the ??AA groups, BSA license audits, "
What is wrong with that? We do recognize intellectual property as a valuable asset and consequently we do enforce violations of relevant laws.
You want to Linux in schools? Sure, we can have it there , we already have Apple, MS and other Unices
This is technical issue and as such should not be polluted with ideological ramblings of some guys who, most likely, will be forgotten in the next 20 or 30 years.
Remember, this is NOT an ideological issue but strictly technical matter.
Sure but most people do not need to convert thousands of BMPs into JPEGs and whatever else you came up with.
Original poster was claiming that GUIs "dumb people down" which is ridiculous and denies ordinary people right to use computers ( to write letters, check email or even browse the web)
"To start teaching the free-software mentality"
Freeloaders mentality, that's what you mean right ?
"a chapter in the computer literacy class about the GPL and the mentality behind it"
No, we are talking here about technical education and polluting their minds with leftist crap from RMS front is NOT what I want my tax money to be spent on.
I don't mind Linux being used there, but keep that stupid ideology out of there.
"Windows and Mac will stunt your understanding of how a computer works"
...
Gee, so looks like we just wasted 20 years.
Well, time to scrap all these GUIs and start from scratch
Fucking genius.
"school system is strapped for cash"
...
Strapped for cash my ass
Most of these schools have greater budget per student than private institutions.
It is problem of rational management not funding.
Yeah, yeah...
Remember you are NOT talking about high-end workstations but about PCs running Linux.
Anything you can do with Linux ( OS independend things as physic, chemistry etc) can be done on the same box running Windows.
Unless you are talking about using VI or Emacs but these have NOTHING to do with "advanced engineering skills".
What if she does not want to ?
Are you going to deny her option to be a secretary ?
Bullshit. It was a device used to classify and count people - quite generic if you ask me.
Remember, it is only a device, just like a gun is a tool.
Ultimately, Nazis were responsible for extermination NOT machines.
These people are looking for ways to squeeze IBM for some money.
"but as far as the media and now Joe sixpack are concerned"
You ARE Joe sixpack and if you think you are better or above him then you are starting from the wrong foot in the first place.
"These protesters have very real concerns and are being ignored by the media, and subsequently the public at large. "
Their only message is "I oppose this, I oppose that" without providing ANY alternative.
For the most part they are completely ignorant fucks having fun protesting things ( cannot blame them for that much, youngsters need to burn that excessive energy in some way)
"I am proud to be a citizen, and I am proud when I can contribute to the society that I live in. "
You should not measure your contribution to society by how much you are paying in taxes UNLESS you believe that we are unable to sustain society where people are responsible for their own lives ( which how America worked for the last 200 years.)
I am much more grateful for MS and Ford for creating tens of thousands of jobs then for whatever they put in their corporate taxes
There were probably hundreds of companies selling various products to pre-war Germany which later were utilized by Nazis to do whatever they did. ...
Are you going to sue them all ?
Where does that insanity end ?
Once I read some guy writing that Jews pretty much made business out of Holocaust and it looks like he was right and this business is going very well. First extortion and blackmailing of Swiss banks, now IBM
"but you can continue to feel good about yourself..."
Envious ?
"ideologically pure "
Aren't we on technical site , discussing "stuff for geeks " ??
I would NEVER trust any software that is driven by ideology instead of standard pursue of excellence.
"And, oh yeah, so that companies like Microsoft could take advantage of the efforts."
If it is free then it should be free for anyone, including MS.