"!" Well, guess what, schmuck. This is one medium that you're going to have one hell of a time controlling. "
Not so fast.
Remember that vast majority of the infrastructure of the net is controlled by private companies, running on hardware almost exclusively from a single source (Cisco.)
All they need is to strike some sort of deal with Cisco and voila, 10 years from now we end up with exactly what this guys was asking for.
I am not saying it is right or wrong, but it IS possible.
mooneyguy is looking for excuse for NOT creating safer zone for kids.
Just because we can have some remote possibility that somewhere kid might publish its own naked pictures we should drop idea of creating relatively safe TLD.
Very smart indeed.
PS.
If we were to look for every possible conflict of values and meanings between different cultures we would always find something. Nothing would ever get done.
"They choose them for their features, and if a good competitor emerges, they will consider it."
No, Debian does not base selection of software that will be included in their distro on their feature list.
Their first and foremost requirement is that software must be free ( as defined by FSF.)
You accuse MS of promoting their software regardless of its merit yet you have no problem with Debian folks doing exactly the same ( MS promotes itself, Debian promotes FSF defined freedom - neither of them regards software features as a defining criteria for inclusion.)
Anti-monopoly laws are here to protect consumers not other software publishers.
And please explain how I the world am I being cheated by having CD-R software installed with my OS ?
Again and again.
For what it does or tries to do MS code is surprisingly stable.
Linux does not support half of the features (as far as desktop user is concerned) than MS OS does.
Gnome and KDE are mere attempts at emulating MS stuff, which are nowhere near as stable as the original.
"the single biggest thing MS has going for them (as far as IE, Media Player, and *gasp* IIS) is product ignorance. "
Media Player , possibly but IE ?
You cannot be serious here, and if you are please show me superior browser.
"MS won the browser war primarily because they gained market share over Netscape from the attitude that said "well, this is already installed, so who cares." "
This precisely how Linux distros operate and compete with each other; by providing shitload of features "build into" their distros.
What is good for them obviously is bad for Microsoft.
"I doubt Microsoft will start shipping with Mozilla because they like it better than IE.
"
I doubt Debian will ship with Opera because they like it better then Mozilla.
"Well, the death penalty certainly disbars the first. "
It was practiced during the time when constitution was written which suggest to me that people who wrote the declaration did not considered it to be violation of their own statements.
Well, this is what one would call a great dilemma.
If you have a right to throw headless cows around and I have right to decide what goes on in my community, what do we do now?
As far as first amendment rights, please don't bring up Europe where mere mention of support for Nazis or even being in possession of Nazi symbol can land you in jail.
Furthermore, in some countries (Germany and France) scientific discussion about events in our history like existence and extend of destruction of Jewish population in Nazi camps is only allowed if one follows official version of these events. In other words, you cannot claim that Holocaust did not happen because French authorities will throw you in jail.
That is one hell of a way to practice freedom of speech.
Death penalty - that is a different issue ( DP is supported by majority of Americans therefore cannot be regarded as a government enforced )
"because a movie entitled "Vampire Hookers" was to be shown, the city stepped in claiming a lack of proper permits"
Have you ever considered that fact that maybe, just maybe locals objected to this event?
Do you believe their voice should be counted here?
The fact that in Berlin someone can drop a cow from a helicopter means nothing.
Where I live, sure as hell I would like my elected officials to prevent anyone from dropping headless animals all over the place.
"I could go into the various social reforms - better education, universal health care, public transportation, environmental protection (actually living up to the Kyoto treaty), etc. "
Better education? Well, according to my knowledge most of the innovation in just about every field happens in US. Frankly, US could hardly become the most powerful economy with substandard education, don't you think?
The only European country that ratified Kyoto agreement is Rumania so please stop with this nonsense.
"America's high barriers to voting (registration is enough of a hassel) "
Only to stupid or lazy people. I surely don't want future of our country be decided by people who are unable to complete simple task of voter registration.
Frankly, Europeans have a lot to learn from US.
For such a highly civilized and sensitive people it took them surprisingly long to stop slaughter and rape of women, which was going on right in the middle of their beloved continent.
Again, just like 50 years ago you needed US intervention to put an end to it.
"Ph.D and 8 years of experience; or MA and 10 years of experience; or BA and 15 years of experience. "
They asking for this just to fill Education Technology Specialist ?
Good luck.
Well, judge or jury can decide if someone shall day.
In Europe (and US as well) any woman can decide if their child should live or die.
How is that different ?
At least in case of criminals 99% of them die for commiting terrible crimes...
Oh so you guys ended up with bad laws because "far right" invaded your state and forced these laws one you.
Come on. These are your countryman who voted that way. They have a right to it and if they happened to outnumber people like you, well you gonna have to live with that or move somewhere else.
"They have a far better human rights record than the US in addition to a host of other social reforms. "
How so ?
Give me any examples of that (human rights).
It is a serious question.
Again, you people fail to realize the simple fact that I do not see anything wrong with what happened to that Russian guy.
To put it another way, I do not have a problem with DMCA laws.
Why would I bother to "take an action" ?
Hell yeah but one has to decide which fights to pick.
Some of them are stupid and insignificant issues raised by people who have nothing better to do and others are real problems../ community seems to center on small issues while ignoring huge and progressing problems.
Hehe. Nice little rant.
I bet you will roll back right into your daily routine and forget about most of it.
Not much different than what you accusing me of, is there ?
At least I have a decency to admit, I don't give a shit because I don't think there is a problem ( that's a crucial difference here, ponder on it a bit).
Hell yeah, instead of DMCA you have mandatory tax on CD media...
One hell of a land of freedom you have there...
PS.
On an unrelated note... Aurora seems like a damn nice piece of hardware.
Dude, I got a lots of things to do.
What ?
Well, like work, kids and similar stuff.
That is assuming I would be even complaining about this whole issue, which I am not.
To the contrary, I think this guy deserved what he got.
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"This is ri-goddamn-diculous "
...
You have been listening to Mancow
There are already class libraries with exactly the same capabilites as Perl's regexp string processing ( even syntax compatible with Perl)
"!" Well, guess what, schmuck. This is one medium that you're going to have one hell of a time controlling. "
Not so fast.
Remember that vast majority of the infrastructure of the net is controlled by private companies, running on hardware almost exclusively from a single source (Cisco.)
All they need is to strike some sort of deal with Cisco and voila, 10 years from now we end up with exactly what this guys was asking for.
I am not saying it is right or wrong, but it IS possible.
mooneyguy is looking for excuse for NOT creating safer zone for kids.
Just because we can have some remote possibility that somewhere kid might publish its own naked pictures we should drop idea of creating relatively safe TLD.
Very smart indeed.
PS.
If we were to look for every possible conflict of values and meanings between different cultures we would always find something. Nothing would ever get done.
"They choose them for their features, and if a good competitor emerges, they will consider it."
.)
No, Debian does not base selection of software that will be included in their distro on their feature list.
Their first and foremost requirement is that software must be free ( as defined by FSF
You accuse MS of promoting their software regardless of its merit yet you have no problem with Debian folks doing exactly the same ( MS promotes itself, Debian promotes FSF defined freedom - neither of them regards software features as a defining criteria for inclusion.)
Anti-monopoly laws are here to protect consumers not other software publishers.
And please explain how I the world am I being cheated by having CD-R software installed with my OS ?
Again and again.
For what it does or tries to do MS code is surprisingly stable.
Linux does not support half of the features (as far as desktop user is concerned) than MS OS does.
Gnome and KDE are mere attempts at emulating MS stuff, which are nowhere near as stable as the original.
"the single biggest thing MS has going for them (as far as IE, Media Player, and *gasp* IIS) is product ignorance. "
Media Player , possibly but IE ?
You cannot be serious here, and if you are please show me superior browser.
"MS won the browser war primarily because they gained market share over Netscape from the attitude that said "well, this is already installed, so who cares." "
This precisely how Linux distros operate and compete with each other; by providing shitload of features "build into" their distros.
What is good for them obviously is bad for Microsoft.
"I doubt Microsoft will start shipping with Mozilla because they like it better than IE. " I doubt Debian will ship with Opera because they like it better then Mozilla.
"Well, the death penalty certainly disbars the first. "
It was practiced during the time when constitution was written which suggest to me that people who wrote the declaration did not considered it to be violation of their own statements.
Well, this is what one would call a great dilemma.
If you have a right to throw headless cows around and I have right to decide what goes on in my community, what do we do now?
As far as first amendment rights, please don't bring up Europe where mere mention of support for Nazis or even being in possession of Nazi symbol can land you in jail.
Furthermore, in some countries (Germany and France) scientific discussion about events in our history like existence and extend of destruction of Jewish population in Nazi camps is only allowed if one follows official version of these events. In other words, you cannot claim that Holocaust did not happen because French authorities will throw you in jail.
That is one hell of a way to practice freedom of speech.
Death penalty - that is a different issue ( DP is supported by majority of Americans therefore cannot be regarded as a government enforced )
"because a movie entitled "Vampire Hookers" was to be shown, the city stepped in claiming a lack of proper permits"
Have you ever considered that fact that maybe, just maybe locals objected to this event?
Do you believe their voice should be counted here?
The fact that in Berlin someone can drop a cow from a helicopter means nothing.
Where I live, sure as hell I would like my elected officials to prevent anyone from dropping headless animals all over the place.
"I could go into the various social reforms - better education, universal health care, public transportation, environmental protection (actually living up to the Kyoto treaty), etc. "
Better education? Well, according to my knowledge most of the innovation in just about every field happens in US. Frankly, US could hardly become the most powerful economy with substandard education, don't you think?
The only European country that ratified Kyoto agreement is Rumania so please stop with this nonsense.
"America's high barriers to voting (registration is enough of a hassel) "
Only to stupid or lazy people. I surely don't want future of our country be decided by people who are unable to complete simple task of voter registration.
Frankly, Europeans have a lot to learn from US.
For such a highly civilized and sensitive people it took them surprisingly long to stop slaughter and rape of women, which was going on right in the middle of their beloved continent.
Again, just like 50 years ago you needed US intervention to put an end to it.
"Ph.D and 8 years of experience; or MA and 10 years of experience; or BA and 15 years of experience. " They asking for this just to fill Education Technology Specialist ? Good luck.
"the right to live. "
Well, judge or jury can decide if someone shall day.
In Europe (and US as well) any woman can decide if their child should live or die.
How is that different ?
At least in case of criminals 99% of them die for commiting terrible crimes...
Oh so you guys ended up with bad laws because "far right" invaded your state and forced these laws one you. Come on. These are your countryman who voted that way. They have a right to it and if they happened to outnumber people like you, well you gonna have to live with that or move somewhere else.
Next time you will look into that sooner. I am serious, we all learng on our mistakes and I did you.
"They have a far better human rights record than the US in addition to a host of other social reforms. " How so ? Give me any examples of that (human rights). It is a serious question.
You are so fucking funny ....
I mean real fucking funny.
I doubt it. They are well ahead in that regard.
Again, you people fail to realize the simple fact that I do not see anything wrong with what happened to that Russian guy. To put it another way, I do not have a problem with DMCA laws. Why would I bother to "take an action" ?
Hell yeah but one has to decide which fights to pick. Some of them are stupid and insignificant issues raised by people who have nothing better to do and others are real problems. ./ community seems to center on small issues while ignoring huge and progressing problems.
Hehe. Nice little rant. I bet you will roll back right into your daily routine and forget about most of it. Not much different than what you accusing me of, is there ? At least I have a decency to admit, I don't give a shit because I don't think there is a problem ( that's a crucial difference here, ponder on it a bit).
Hell yeah, instead of DMCA you have mandatory tax on CD media ...
One hell of a land of freedom you have there ...
PS.
On an unrelated note ... Aurora seems like a damn nice piece of hardware.
Dude, I got a lots of things to do.
What ?
Well, like work, kids and similar stuff.
That is assuming I would be even complaining about this whole issue, which I am not.
To the contrary, I think this guy deserved what he got.
So what ? The point is that if you don't like something you don't blame people for trying to enforce current law but go ahead and try to change it.
It is a law. It matters not how "Bush" feels about it.