Actually, composition researchers have known this for a while. Different teachers will grade the same paper differently, in the range that you describe. It's not that it's necessarily that subjective; more that there are so many things to look at in a paper, and teachers place different emphasis on each in their evaluation.
wouldn't it feature an mp3 player for the shower with karaoke setting?
or how about a large flat panel display readable from both the john and the whirlpool bath with voice activated mouse controls for reading online and watching video?
These have been mentioned on Slashdot before, but worth mentioning again here:
Cory Doctorow's Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom is a fun read. Besides, the "true" first edition seems to be the online one available for free download. The print edition is still unavailable on amazon.
You might check out salon for his stories Ownz0red and Liberation spectrum. Both are somewhat didactic, but they contain messages that most of this crowd will appreciate.
looks like if we want to get this done right, the people will have to adopt the principles of Cory Doctorow's Bitchun Society and oust Disney and the like on our own;)
"There's a poster in this topic who says he has 13G of FarScape on his HD, that's how much he loves it. Umm, no, if he loved it he would have bought the DVDs. People like him in fact killed the show."
sounds like you are working for the entertainment industry. haven't you heard? p2p file trading helps to increase the popularity of shows like farscape and push up sales and viewing audience. i've got 20gigs of farscape and own 3 of the dvd packs with a total of 12 episodes bought and paid for, and i'd like to buy more. just can't do it today.
Additionally, PenTeleData may soon implement filters to prevent ProLog Express customers from uploading
files to peer-to-peer networks. ProLog Express users who download files from peer-to-peer networks will not
lose their ability to download, but once the filters are in place, you will lose the ability to upload
files to the peer-to-peer networks.
imagine, a p2p network where everyone can only download, not upload--there's something wrong with this picture:)
this seems a better solution than the one then sending all the cd's to this guy. if one million people called aol in the next six months to be removed from their mailing lists, well, they'd definitely get the message:)
"Isn't there a false delima in this? I do not believe that the only choices are to release under the GPL or to not release at all." No. The point is that the Indian government has chosen to go with Linux, while others question why not FreeBSD. Either is a much better choice than proprietary software, no matter how many points are raised in preference over one or the other. And regardless of the open source platform chosen, once established, you would be more likely to see people make choices in the future, trying various open source platforms. Once a developing nation is locked into propietary software, it's more difficult to make the change.
"To put things in the right perspective here, probably less that %1 of the people who use free software ever look at the source code."
Sure. But if you read the article in the indiatimes, one of the main goals is to use linux with engineering students and others in IT. many of them could make up that 1% you mention.
"If you publish your program, you are committed to the three year period." Certainly, the act of publishing it should represent some investment in getting recognition for the work. Otherwise, what's the point of publishing it. So most people would be invested in making the effort to keep the code available for 3 years.
""This is yours," she would say "but if you ever sell it I will haunt you." The gift in that case was not free in terms of libre." Well, if you want to take it that direction, nothing comes without price.
Still, your argument here doesn't make sense to me. No one is obligated, under the GPL, to pursue those that use their code inappropriately. Copyright is broken all the time. So even if FreeBSD were chosen instead of Linux, people would still break the terms of the license.
"Rather than placing the burden on the teacher to distribute the source code"
Look at it in the right perspective. As opposed to not having the option for distributing the source code with proprietary software? Seems that the gpl doesn't put an undue burden. And perhaps a student that receives the source code might decide to take a look at it. The teacher that doesn't want to take "the burden" of that isn't providing every opportunity for learning.
"This seems to be a problematic demand especially for student projects and web sites that may disappear over the course of the year."
Anyone whose code is popular enough that people would be looking for it 2 1/2 years later isn't going to object to trying to make it available on request by trying to maintain a website.
"the GPL puts the creator in the position the being the enforcer of other people's morality....If one is not able or unwilling to enforce the GPL, then there is no reason to apply the GPL." There's more to the GPL than the spirit of enforcing it. You know the old saying, locks are to keep honest people out. GPL something and the average person will be likely to GPL it as well.
But if morality is really that important, maybe we could get the Pope to rule on it:)
" From my view just a micron left of center..." And from my view, slightly right of center, I tend to see the opposite.
But what typically happens is that most of us tend to be sensitive toward the use of labels applied by those that oppose our views. If you start to *listen* you'll hear the same rhetorical strategy applied by both sides.
The previous post could be rewritten as the following, don't you think?
"Several things disturb me about Liberal rhetoric, but most notably:
* The use of ridicule and ad-hominem attacks to discredit valid ideas. i.e., Calling someone a "conservative" as an implicit insult.
* The assertion of certain lies as universally-known truths. i.e., That the media has a conservative bias. That "conservative" ideas dominate state policies.
It would be truly refreshing to see a debate between a liberal who can restrain these tendencies and a well-versed conservative thinker."
Now, personally, I'd be more interested in seeing discussions where both sides avoid such rhetorical techniques to cloud issues, discredit their opponents, and avoid the facts;)
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Actually, composition researchers have known this for a while. Different teachers will grade the same paper differently, in the range that you describe. It's not that it's necessarily that subjective; more that there are so many things to look at in a paper, and teachers place different emphasis on each in their evaluation.
they should have gotten lessig and stallman.
I haven't had any Abit problems, but I check on the issues with any board at amdmb.com before buying.
But I would agree, for overall reliability, ASUS is the best. I'd take ASUS over Intel.
the review points out that an upgrade requires an atx case with a p4 psu. in this case, wouldn't it make more sense to upgrade to an athlon?
that personal toolbar thingy in mozilla works nice as well.
Didn't you know? OS X is merging with XP.
There are two things the masses do with processor power these days:
- play 3d games which are getting ever more processor hungry..
yep. nethack roars on the best processor power.
For a minute there, my eyes deceived me, and I was really curious what this post was about :)
Instead, we don't we forward all our spam to Congressional members and see how long it takes for them to enact legislation :)
That's great!
But I think what we really need is a show of solidarity. Mozilla and Safari, among others, should release a Bork edition asap.
wouldn't it feature an mp3 player for the shower with karaoke setting?
:)
or how about a large flat panel display readable from both the john and the whirlpool bath with voice activated mouse controls for reading online and watching video?
might want to skip the vid cam
nah. plato would have been a mac man.
it's the sophists who would have been the open source users!
These have been mentioned on Slashdot before, but worth mentioning again here:
Cory Doctorow's Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom is a fun read. Besides, the "true" first edition seems to be the online one available for free download. The print edition is still unavailable on amazon.
You might check out salon for his stories Ownz0red and Liberation spectrum. Both are somewhat didactic, but they contain messages that most of this crowd will appreciate.
Can's somebody slip into AOL and exchange their burning image for Knoppix?
:)
Linux shipped out in the millions to the world
looks like if we want to get this done right, the people will have to adopt the principles of Cory Doctorow's Bitchun Society and oust Disney and the like on our own ;)
let the revolution begin!
don't they know that farcape fans don't do neilson surveys? that's for boob tube watchers, not serious sci-fi fans.
besides, how do you hook one of those nielsen things to my ati wonder card?
"There's a poster in this topic who says he has 13G of FarScape on his HD, that's how much he loves it. Umm, no, if he loved it he would have bought the DVDs. People like him in fact killed the show."
sounds like you are working for the entertainment industry. haven't you heard? p2p file trading helps to increase the popularity of shows like farscape and push up sales and viewing audience. i've got 20gigs of farscape and own 3 of the dvd packs with a total of 12 episodes bought and paid for, and i'd like to buy more. just can't do it today.
Additionally, PenTeleData may soon implement filters to prevent ProLog Express customers from uploading files to peer-to-peer networks. ProLog Express users who download files from peer-to-peer networks will not lose their ability to download, but once the filters are in place, you will lose the ability to upload files to the peer-to-peer networks.
:)
imagine, a p2p network where everyone can only download, not upload--there's something wrong with this picture
this seems a better solution than the one then sending all the cd's to this guy. if one million people called aol in the next six months to be removed from their mailing lists, well, they'd definitely get the message :)
"Isn't there a false delima in this? I do not believe that the only choices are to release under the GPL or to not release at all." No. The point is that the Indian government has chosen to go with Linux, while others question why not FreeBSD. Either is a much better choice than proprietary software, no matter how many points are raised in preference over one or the other. And regardless of the open source platform chosen, once established, you would be more likely to see people make choices in the future, trying various open source platforms. Once a developing nation is locked into propietary software, it's more difficult to make the change.
"To put things in the right perspective here, probably less that %1 of the people who use free software ever look at the source code."
Sure. But if you read the article in the indiatimes, one of the main goals is to use linux with engineering students and others in IT. many of them could make up that 1% you mention.
"If you publish your program, you are committed to the three year period." Certainly, the act of publishing it should represent some investment in getting recognition for the work. Otherwise, what's the point of publishing it. So most people would be invested in making the effort to keep the code available for 3 years.
""This is yours," she would say "but if you ever sell it I will haunt you." The gift in that case was not free in terms of libre." Well, if you want to take it that direction, nothing comes without price.
Still, your argument here doesn't make sense to me. No one is obligated, under the GPL, to pursue those that use their code inappropriately. Copyright is broken all the time. So even if FreeBSD were chosen instead of Linux, people would still break the terms of the license.
you can read more about it here
"Rather than placing the burden on the teacher to distribute the source code"
Look at it in the right perspective. As opposed to not having the option for distributing the source code with proprietary software? Seems that the gpl doesn't put an undue burden. And perhaps a student that receives the source code might decide to take a look at it. The teacher that doesn't want to take "the burden" of that isn't providing every opportunity for learning.
"This seems to be a problematic demand especially for student projects and web sites that may disappear over the course of the year."
Anyone whose code is popular enough that people would be looking for it 2 1/2 years later isn't going to object to trying to make it available on request by trying to maintain a website.
"the GPL puts the creator in the position the being the enforcer of other people's morality....If one is not able or unwilling to enforce the GPL, then there is no reason to apply the GPL." There's more to the GPL than the spirit of enforcing it. You know the old saying, locks are to keep honest people out. GPL something and the average person will be likely to GPL it as well.
But if morality is really that important, maybe we could get the Pope to rule on it
Just saw it. It was *okay*.
But, can we trade it in for another season of Farscape?
" From my view just a micron left of center..." And from my view, slightly right of center, I tend to see the opposite.
But what typically happens is that most of us tend to be sensitive toward the use of labels applied by those that oppose our views. If you start to *listen* you'll hear the same rhetorical strategy applied by both sides.
The previous post could be rewritten as the following, don't you think?
;)
"Several things disturb me about Liberal rhetoric, but most notably:
* The use of ridicule and ad-hominem attacks to discredit valid ideas. i.e., Calling someone a "conservative" as an implicit insult.
* The assertion of certain lies as universally-known truths. i.e., That the media has a conservative bias. That "conservative" ideas dominate state policies.
It would be truly refreshing to see a debate between a liberal who can restrain these tendencies and a well-versed conservative thinker."
Now, personally, I'd be more interested in seeing discussions where both sides avoid such rhetorical techniques to cloud issues, discredit their opponents, and avoid the facts