Really, the.mail TLD is the exact same thing as SPF. They're just trying to make it seem like a much bigger idea, and they're taking away control from the people that actually own the domains. (Maybe they'll give it back, but who knows).
It's like SPFPro: all the features of FreeSPF but you have to pay...
say i have abracadabra.com and you have abracadabra.net - which one of us gets abracadabra.mail? Or are we talking abracadabra.com.mail and abracadabra.org.mail?
What nobody seems to understand is that a traffic ticket is not a license to keep speeding. Try telling the second traffic cop that "it's ok, i already paid your buddy this morning". 500 M EUR is a serious amount. Sure Microsoft has plenty of money in the bank, but hey, we're talking about Five Hundred Million Euros. Once you've fined somebody once, you open the gates to fining them again and again until they stop doing whatever it is you object to so much.
Unfortunately, the remedial actions seem a little weak to me: offer two versions of windows (one with media player and one without)? What's that going to achieve? Anybody less than a complete newbie already knows that you can download your choice of media software from the internet, and the newbies with a media software free version of windows will just download the first one they find... using MSIE as their default browser... with MSN as the default home page... see where this is going? If choice was the issue, why not direct MS to bundle quicktime and real player with every license of windows sold in Europe? Yes, i know this raises the hackles on the back of any self-respecting libertarian American, but here in Europe we're used to big goverment stepping in and ruling by decree (especially since the EU)
like bill said, "...a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing"
The post office is not a federal entity, it is a privately owned business. No, the usps is a part of the federal government, albeit one that nods towards market notions of profit and loss in operations, and has adopted some more "market friendly" trappings (such as the Postmaster General now also being the CEO). This is explained quite clearly on their website http://www.usps.gov/.
Just like the federal reserve. Put down the crack pipe. The federal reserve (http://www.federalreserve.gov/) is most certianly part of the federal government. You are getting confused by the fact that the fed is what's known as an "independent central bank" which means that it doesn't have to answer to the president or anyone else within the executive or legislative branches. It does, however, have to operate within the legal framework set down by congress.
They have some kind of relationship with the feds that allows them to operate the way that they do Hey, don't get me wrong, i liked Snow Crash as well, but you've got to realize that stuff is fiction: there is still some difference between private business and the federal government. www.halliburton.gov could not be found. Please check the name and try again.
Thats the extent of my knowledge on this subject, you might want to google the rest....
Email and online bill paying must some day put them out of business. I know they had financial difficulties for a while. I bet they will have to adapt in the coming years or die off.
Certification Authorities. Think about registered mail: i can send you a letter from anywhere in the world and get a proof that it was delivered to you and only you. The post office is a federal governmental entity with offices all over the country, and they know who you are (well, at least your address).
In the near future, you might go down to the post office, show some form of accepted identification and they would generate a personal certificate for you, free or for some nominal charge. The problem with current commercial CAs is that they are basically about certifying businesses. They will issue personal certificates to individuals, but their main interest in that area is selling certification infrastructure to corporations for use on their networks. When it comes to the idea of standardized "electronic identification cards" (optional or mandatory...) the PTOs look like a very good candidate./t
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mod parent up, i just got back from there and Groklaw did a hell of a job
That's not a single client. Unless the message board only has one user on it at a time, it has multiple clients accessing and updating the messageboard at the same time.
From the pov of the database, that's a single client application: most low level web apps don't use pooling, so they use a single connection to the database. And most message boards only have one client at a time (not everyone does slashdot's numbers)/t
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select "delete from the server" as the action, that way the mail never gets to you.
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Even if nobody buys it, spam will still exist, because spammers think exactly like you do..
it's not a question of spammers thinking exactly that way, it's just reality: in a given population of of hundreds of thousands or millions of recepients, there will *always* be a couple of idiots who buy the product. Stupid people are a fact of life.
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True, and it only takes one or two people purchasing the product to pay for a spam mailing of a million mails. Spam exists because it is cost effective. Spam will go away when it is no longer cost effective.
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And if your one of the,"oh, it can't be more than five or ten", companies in the world that is using E-mail as part of your business processes, whether for sales, marketing, customer service, CRM, purchase or account notifications, etc... well then, hell yeah it matters.
Well, if you are using e-mail as a *critical* part of your business process then you must have a back up plan: like it or not e-mails get lost, there is no guaranteed delivery (e-fedEx?),no standardized way of handling return receipts, not to mention the whole grey area of whether emails represent legally binding documents. Check out those disclaimers in your inbox. Any e-commerce site sends you email notifications on your order's status, but they're also available on your account page - ssl encrypted, password authenticated. And you can call customer support for the same info./t
yes, i know, US centric - but i assume the same thing exists or is coming soon for most developped countries. The idea being to catch the change at the last possible moment: with the people who put the peices of dead tree in the box attached to your house.
Which is ironic given that a majority of slashdot readers espouse such an anti-amazon.com attitude (the pattents thing). You'll notice that the "buy this book" link under the review points to bn.com
while we're at it: when will slashdot publish those browser stats?
You are standing on a planet that is constantly evolving, and revolving at 900 miles an hour... That's orbiting at 19 miles a second, so it's reckoned, A sun that is the source of all our power.
One of the questions that this discussion doesn't take into account is just how good does a personal firewall on a home computer have to be in order to be effective?
It seems to me that you have to take the "threat level" into account: are you looking for a solution to keep you one hundred percent safe in the face of a dedicated attack by an expert opponent or do you just want to deter random port scanning dorks from malasia? If you're not a convenient victim and your neighbor runs vanilla windows XP, doesn't have a firewall, doesn't apply security patches and, hey while we're at it, surfs porn from dodgy russian sites all day... chances are you're safe enough... for now./t
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mod parent up, he's 100% correct.
Really, the .mail TLD is the exact same thing as SPF. They're just trying to make it seem like a much bigger idea, and they're taking away control from the people that actually own the domains. (Maybe they'll give it back, but who knows).
It's like SPFPro: all the features of FreeSPF but you have to pay...
at least you own all those doamin names:
say i have abracadabra.com and you have abracadabra.net - which one of us gets abracadabra.mail? Or are we talking abracadabra.com.mail and abracadabra.org.mail?
well, if you use it to receive mail, your mail server is already identified by an MX record...
it will take some time, but it will eventually work.
What nobody seems to understand is that a traffic ticket is not a license to keep speeding. Try telling the second traffic cop that "it's ok, i already paid your buddy this morning". 500 M EUR is a serious amount. Sure Microsoft has plenty of money in the bank, but hey, we're talking about Five Hundred Million Euros. Once you've fined somebody once, you open the gates to fining them again and again until they stop doing whatever it is you object to so much.
Unfortunately, the remedial actions seem a little weak to me: offer two versions of windows (one with media player and one without)? What's that going to achieve? Anybody less than a complete newbie already knows that you can download your choice of media software from the internet, and the newbies with a media software free version of windows will just download the first one they find... using MSIE as their default browser... with MSN as the default home page... see where this is going? If choice was the issue, why not direct MS to bundle quicktime and real player with every license of windows sold in Europe? Yes, i know this raises the hackles on the back of any self-respecting libertarian American, but here in Europe we're used to big goverment stepping in and ruling by decree (especially since the EU)
like bill said, "...a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing"
a book by Neal Stephenson set in a future where the line between government and private industry has blurred.
The post office is not a federal entity, it is a privately owned business.
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No, the usps is a part of the federal government, albeit one that nods towards market notions of profit and loss in operations, and has adopted some more "market friendly" trappings (such as the Postmaster General now also being the CEO). This is explained quite clearly on their website http://www.usps.gov/.
Just like the federal reserve.
Put down the crack pipe. The federal reserve (http://www.federalreserve.gov/) is most certianly part of the federal government. You are getting confused by the fact that the fed is what's known as an "independent central bank" which means that it doesn't have to answer to the president or anyone else within the executive or legislative branches. It does, however, have to operate within the legal framework set down by congress.
They have some kind of relationship with the feds that allows them to operate the way that they do
Hey, don't get me wrong, i liked Snow Crash as well, but you've got to realize that stuff is fiction: there is still some difference between private business and the federal government. www.halliburton.gov could not be found. Please check the name and try again.
Thats the extent of my knowledge on this subject, you might want to google the rest.
Email and online bill paying must some day put them out of business. I know they had financial difficulties for a while. I bet they will have to adapt in the coming years or die off.
/t
Certification Authorities. Think about registered mail: i can send you a letter from anywhere in the world and get a proof that it was delivered to you and only you. The post office is a federal governmental entity with offices all over the country, and they know who you are (well, at least your address).
In the near future, you might go down to the post office, show some form of accepted identification and they would generate a personal certificate for you, free or for some nominal charge. The problem with current commercial CAs is that they are basically about certifying businesses. They will issue personal certificates to individuals, but their main interest in that area is selling certification infrastructure to corporations for use on their networks. When it comes to the idea of standardized "electronic identification cards" (optional or mandatory...) the PTOs look like a very good candidate.
mod parent up, i just got back from there and Groklaw did a hell of a job
Well I am guessing that you are one of those people on the lower half.
Indeed. My IQ is negative.
tomorrow they'll put 16 gb drives *inside* quarters.
Oops, one per 10,000 e-mails. Sorry ...which, combined with the fact that half the people you meet have an IQ under 100, is why spam exists.
That's not a single client. Unless the message board only has one user on it at a time, it has multiple clients accessing and updating the messageboard at the same time.
/t
From the pov of the database, that's a single client application: most low level web apps don't use pooling, so they use a single connection to the database. And most message boards only have one client at a time (not everyone does slashdot's numbers)
select "delete from the server" as the action, that way the mail never gets to you.
Even if nobody buys it, spam will still exist, because spammers think exactly like you do..
it's not a question of spammers thinking exactly that way, it's just reality: in a given population of of hundreds of thousands or millions of recepients, there will *always* be a couple of idiots who buy the product. Stupid people are a fact of life.
True, and it only takes one or two people purchasing the product to pay for a spam mailing of a million mails. Spam exists because it is cost effective. Spam will go away when it is no longer cost effective.
And if your one of the,"oh, it can't be more than five or ten", companies in the world that is using E-mail as part of your business processes, whether for sales, marketing, customer service, CRM, purchase or account notifications, etc... well then, hell yeah it matters.
,no standardized way of handling return receipts, not to mention the whole grey area of whether emails represent legally binding documents. Check out those disclaimers in your inbox. Any e-commerce site sends you email notifications on your order's status, but they're also available on your account page - ssl encrypted, password authenticated. And you can call customer support for the same info. /t
Well, if you are using e-mail as a *critical* part of your business process then you must have a back up plan: like it or not e-mails get lost, there is no guaranteed delivery (e-fedEx?)
US Post Office Change of Address
yes, i know, US centric - but i assume the same thing exists or is coming soon for most developped countries. The idea being to catch the change at the last possible moment: with the people who put the peices of dead tree in the box attached to your house.
Which is ironic given that a majority of slashdot readers espouse such an anti-amazon.com attitude (the pattents thing). You'll notice that the "buy this book" link under the review points to bn.com
while we're at it: when will slashdot publish those browser stats?
You are standing on a planet that is constantly evolving, and revolving at 900 miles an hour...
That's orbiting at 19 miles a second, so it's reckoned,
A sun that is the source of all our power.
and while you're there, you can play the Jacob Nielsen Drinking Game.
One of the questions that this discussion doesn't take into account is just how good does a personal firewall on a home computer have to be in order to be effective?
/t
It seems to me that you have to take the "threat level" into account: are you looking for a solution to keep you one hundred percent safe in the face of a dedicated attack by an expert opponent or do you just want to deter random port scanning dorks from malasia? If you're not a convenient victim and your neighbor runs vanilla windows XP, doesn't have a firewall, doesn't apply security patches and, hey while we're at it, surfs porn from dodgy russian sites all day... chances are you're safe enough... for now.
true but the people running Darwin w/out Aqua are few and far between.