I don't think removing the EC is the best thing, rather making it on a much smaller scale, ie County by county. I'm not positive but I would imagine that our counties now are closer to the size of the states when the EC was brought around.
Afaik the members of the EC don't do anything other than cast their presidential votes, which are _suppposed_ to be representative, so just cut out the actual people and do the voting on a county level.
Don't get me wrong I agree with you. I do all my compiling using g++ and editing with vim at work.
I was just pointing out that the differences in end users throws off the articles statistics.
The study found that while 45 percent of the EULA was concerned with limiting users' rights, only 27 percent of the GPL concentrated on this aspect.....And while 40 percent of the EULA limited remedies, the corresponding figure for the GPL was 22 percent.
If you take away the 51% of the GPL that has little mirror in the EULA, that 27% becomes 54%, and the 22% becomes 44%, both much more even with the EULA. I'm assuming there is no overlap between the 51% that talks about extending the source and this 27% since all the percentages mentioned for each lincense add up to 100%, so I'm assuming they are mutually exclusive parts.
The Microsoft EULA "appears to limit choices, options and actions" taken by users of software covered by that licence. The GPL appears to safeguard the rights of the original developers in order to ensure continued accessibility of the source code for the software, the study found.
I think there is a flaw here. The MS XP EULA's 'end user' is refering to a person who simply uses the product, there is no option to be a 'developer user' here.
The GPL 'end user' is including the EULA 'end user' and a 'developer user' into the same pot. I'm sure the EULA would look much different if MS intended people to actually modify the source code.
So afai can see you have two different groups here. If linux actually ever becomes rampant on the desk top I don't think the "Over half (51 percent) of the GPL focused on extending users' rights" is going to really matter to the majority of the actual users. This 51% seems to only apply to 'developer users' not your plain old Joe Six-Pack user, and believe me there will be much more Joe Six-Packs than developers on a widley used OS. So now half the GPL is meaningless to most of the users?
Here's your freedom, oh I'm sorry you can't actually use it?
The systems accessible externally don't contain classified data that's for sure. No classified system is connected to the outside world. These systems are the standard desktop systems accessible from anyone's office with the appropriate userids/passwords, and the data is unclassified so it is nothing that I couldn't copy to a floppy or print out and take home otherwise.
I'll refrain from addressing the troll aspects of your message.
I work for large academic Federally Funded Research and Development Center (FFRDC) lab that for the most part works on DoD contracts. We are allowed to connect to work from home via secure ID cards and are encouraged to get a free single port router from work to use at home, these routers employ NAT for extra security.
Does that mean that people who work for organizations that do DoD work can no longer protect their home systems, and thus protect the governmental work systems?
I think that for ideas that are truely novel that it is ok to attach your name to it for eternity and have it remain, but I'm talking truely novel ideas.
For the most part such things only reside on mathematical theories or other such currently useful ideas. Ie. the Shannon Limit or the Turing Test. If I simply come up with a idea for something like a "glass magnet" to make recycling landfills easier, that's just fairly pointless. No one is going to speak of Flamesplash's Glass Magnet, especially since it doesn't exist. Now if say in 3 years someone hears my idea and actually builds one, then I don't see any real reason I should get credit for it, maybe an acknowledgement or mention in the paper for said Glass Magnet, but little else.
You could say the person would have never made the device without my suggestion, but I think the actual creation of the device is the harder of the two parts and actually deserves the credit.
People can submit their ideas and have a future invention named after themselves.
If someone thinks something up and puts in in a book, and then 100 years later I actually make the stupid thing, then I'm pretty sure I get to call it whatever I, or the marketing department, want to call it.
But I like Apple and don't like Universal, won't this simply create a contradiction in the universe that will require the universe to implode and be replaced by a more confusing one?
If you enforce that the code changes have to be released to a 3rd party and that any changes in the code can be resold, then yep.
Sounds like you'd have to patent whatever you did, to keep MS or someone else from using your code to make money. But then again isn't this already part of the GPL, you can sell your code, but the changes can't be proprietary.
Interns were blue badge employees, the other were red or orange if I remember correctly.
Interns were pretty much considered the same as full time employees, which was nice.
I never really noticed any problems with v- people being treated standard, other than the usual stuff that the v- person signed up for anyway, like benefits etc..
The only thing that I remember them ever being excluded from was the company picnic, which is something any employee should go to at least once.
While I personally have had very few blue screens using w2k for a couple years, I know that some versions of windows are blue screen prone. I'm curious what the average blue screen rate is for a hand held device. Anyone have an idea on this?
I think it would annoy me more if my hand held crashed than if my desktop did.
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This happens in other arenas, in particular book rights and movies.
Richard Bach spent a lot of time and money buying the rights of his first couple books back from his publisher, but as I understand it he wouldn't have been able to publish those books without having given the rights away in the first place. Not that he did profit from the books even though he didn't own them.
I want to say the same happens in the movie industry, but I'm not sure.
The only real difference is that people will always want to know who wrote a book or movie, and don't really care about the individual behind research.
I'm sure the Aliens will love it when we try to DoS attack them. That's one way to make friends with a new species. "Oh sorry about that, yeah were a smart world, REALLY!!"
I don't tend to trust people that hire others to dig through another companies garbage.
Especially when said person takes a couple months a year off to sail his pretty boat. I'm sure he's reading Wired while on down time aboard his boat to keep up with the industry.
That's not what I was saying, I should have been clearer.
An Open Source development outfit really doesn't make a whole lot of profit, the business model is still being flushed out and as RedHat has shown us the only real money to be made is from the bugs and complexity of the software that must be supported.
I think it would be great is OSS companies actually made money, but the companies costs have to be paid for somehow.
A lot of times the reporters aren't allowed to reveal where they are and sometimes simply aren't told. I've listened to a lot of NPR reports where the journalists state that they can't reveal their locations
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This issue has come up in the Computational Complexity course I am taking.
In particular the Cook-Levin Theorem wah proved simultaneously by Steve Cook in the US and Lenoid Levin in the USSR.
Additionally the Immerman-Szelepcsenyi Theorem was proven by Neil Immerman (US) and Richard Szelepcsenyi (Slovakia).
Neither were known for some time due to the lack of communication on both sides.
I don't think removing the EC is the best thing, rather making it on a much smaller scale, ie County by county. I'm not positive but I would imagine that our counties now are closer to the size of the states when the EC was brought around.
Afaik the members of the EC don't do anything other than cast their presidential votes, which are _suppposed_ to be representative, so just cut out the actual people and do the voting on a county level.
Don't get me wrong I agree with you. I do all my compiling using g++ and editing with vim at work.
I was just pointing out that the differences in end users throws off the articles statistics.
The study found that while 45 percent of the EULA was concerned with limiting users' rights, only 27 percent of the GPL concentrated on this aspect.....And while 40 percent of the EULA limited remedies, the corresponding figure for the GPL was 22 percent.
If you take away the 51% of the GPL that has little mirror in the EULA, that 27% becomes 54%, and the 22% becomes 44%, both much more even with the EULA. I'm assuming there is no overlap between the 51% that talks about extending the source and this 27% since all the percentages mentioned for each lincense add up to 100%, so I'm assuming they are mutually exclusive parts.
Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics.
The Microsoft EULA "appears to limit choices, options and actions" taken by users of software covered by that licence. The GPL appears to safeguard the rights of the original developers in order to ensure continued accessibility of the source code for the software, the study found.
I think there is a flaw here. The MS XP EULA's 'end user' is refering to a person who simply uses the product, there is no option to be a 'developer user' here.
The GPL 'end user' is including the EULA 'end user' and a 'developer user' into the same pot. I'm sure the EULA would look much different if MS intended people to actually modify the source code.
So afai can see you have two different groups here. If linux actually ever becomes rampant on the desk top I don't think the "Over half (51 percent) of the GPL focused on extending users' rights" is going to really matter to the majority of the actual users. This 51% seems to only apply to 'developer users' not your plain old Joe Six-Pack user, and believe me there will be much more Joe Six-Packs than developers on a widley used OS. So now half the GPL is meaningless to most of the users?
Here's your freedom, oh I'm sorry you can't actually use it?
Isn't this fairly similar to the issues the X-Men have to put up with in the comics and movies? Maybe X-2 will show us that we can all get along.
Would be really mean but they could make the flash represent a snow crash image that'll fry all the techies brains.
The systems accessible externally don't contain classified data that's for sure. No classified system is connected to the outside world. These systems are the standard desktop systems accessible from anyone's office with the appropriate userids/passwords, and the data is unclassified so it is nothing that I couldn't copy to a floppy or print out and take home otherwise.
I'll refrain from addressing the troll aspects of your message.
I work for large academic Federally Funded Research and Development Center (FFRDC) lab that for the most part works on DoD contracts. We are allowed to connect to work from home via secure ID cards and are encouraged to get a free single port router from work to use at home, these routers employ NAT for extra security.
Does that mean that people who work for organizations that do DoD work can no longer protect their home systems, and thus protect the governmental work systems?
I think that for ideas that are truely novel that it is ok to attach your name to it for eternity and have it remain, but I'm talking truely novel ideas.
For the most part such things only reside on mathematical theories or other such currently useful ideas. Ie. the Shannon Limit or the Turing Test. If I simply come up with a idea for something like a "glass magnet" to make recycling landfills easier, that's just fairly pointless. No one is going to speak of Flamesplash's Glass Magnet, especially since it doesn't exist. Now if say in 3 years someone hears my idea and actually builds one, then I don't see any real reason I should get credit for it, maybe an acknowledgement or mention in the paper for said Glass Magnet, but little else.
You could say the person would have never made the device without my suggestion, but I think the actual creation of the device is the harder of the two parts and actually deserves the credit.
People can submit their ideas and have a future invention named after themselves.
If someone thinks something up and puts in in a book, and then 100 years later I actually make the stupid thing, then I'm pretty sure I get to call it whatever I, or the marketing department, want to call it.
That mixed with the old Apple ][ game where you had to disconnect part of your brain to posess Tea and No Tea at the same time.
But I like Apple and don't like Universal, won't this simply create a contradiction in the universe that will require the universe to implode and be replaced by a more confusing one?
If you enforce that the code changes have to be released to a 3rd party and that any changes in the code can be resold, then yep.
Sounds like you'd have to patent whatever you did, to keep MS or someone else from using your code to make money. But then again isn't this already part of the GPL, you can sell your code, but the changes can't be proprietary.
Interns were blue badge employees, the other were red or orange if I remember correctly.
Interns were pretty much considered the same as full time employees, which was nice.
I never really noticed any problems with v- people being treated standard, other than the usual stuff that the v- person signed up for anyway, like benefits etc..
The only thing that I remember them ever being excluded from was the company picnic, which is something any employee should go to at least once.
While I personally have had very few blue screens using w2k for a couple years, I know that some versions of windows are blue screen prone. I'm curious what the average blue screen rate is for a hand held device. Anyone have an idea on this?
I think it would annoy me more if my hand held crashed than if my desktop did.
This happens in other arenas, in particular book rights and movies.
Richard Bach spent a lot of time and money buying the rights of his first couple books back from his publisher, but as I understand it he wouldn't have been able to publish those books without having given the rights away in the first place. Not that he did profit from the books even though he didn't own them.
I want to say the same happens in the movie industry, but I'm not sure.
The only real difference is that people will always want to know who wrote a book or movie, and don't really care about the individual behind research.
mmmmmm BBQ *drools*
I'm sure the Aliens will love it when we try to DoS attack them. That's one way to make friends with a new species. "Oh sorry about that, yeah were a smart world, REALLY!!"
I don't tend to trust people that hire others to dig through another companies garbage.
Especially when said person takes a couple months a year off to sail his pretty boat. I'm sure he's reading Wired while on down time aboard his boat to keep up with the industry.
That's not what I was saying, I should have been clearer.
An Open Source development outfit really doesn't make a whole lot of profit, the business model is still being flushed out and as RedHat has shown us the only real money to be made is from the bugs and complexity of the software that must be supported.
I think it would be great is OSS companies actually made money, but the companies costs have to be paid for somehow.
After all, that's good for the industry :)
;)
Unless you actually want to make money.
The survey polled 35 software security experts at $1 billion companies.
35 people speaking for how many actual software users/developers?
Isn't this the same as saying that if the president agrees with something then all americans do to?
hehe, yeah
I often wonder if there's a military guy sitting there with his hand on the transmission equipments power switch.
A lot of times the reporters aren't allowed to reveal where they are and sometimes simply aren't told. I've listened to a lot of NPR reports where the journalists state that they can't reveal their locations
Indeed, take Buffon's Needle Problem for instance. whoda thunk it.