Given their stock performance it doesn't look like SGI does much of anything anymore.
I should have never bought at $15 3 years ago, My commission would be more than the sale price.
"It ran three times faster on our Linux Alphas than on our IRIX SGI machines."
Ya think? They are different hardware. What I'd like to know is if there was actually a SGI machine that could meet the Alpha's performance. Harware money for a CG outfit like this shouldn't really be a problem, especially if they are just up front costs.
I completely agree that this is not a useful method for calculating pi.
However; I think it is very very important in the shear fact that it exists. Mathematics is represented all around us in nature in ways we simply don't see. This is one of them, and I think people should realize that there is a logical underpinning of how nature works, even if we will never comprehend it
This type of story is becoming simply repetetive./. should just have a side page that lists all the articles covering people converting from or choosing linux over Windows. Every single story doesn't belong on the main page.
Same goes for the "So in so has this report that Windows is cheaper than Linux" and vice versa. After a while it just becomes noise.
The nice thing about lawyers in this case is that a small mistake made in a lawyers case doesn't really hurt the overal product, however in software that isn't true. I'd rather have a lawyer whine a lot than have to test NxNxNxN... extra test cases myself...
This got me to thinking (Stand back or the explosion might hurt you).
Windows has been around for almost 20 years now. It would seem that with it's home market share that it would have become a common term for OS's. Much like Klennex is now klennex, it's a generic term for tissue and any tissue maker can use the term in their product description without a TM or R mark.
Being a techincal person I am well aware that 'windows' in computer terms is MS Windows ( though 'window' may not be. But I wonder what 'windows' means to the average non technical computer user. Would they equate windows with Mac/OS, Windows, Solaris, etc.. etc.. . While not being completely on target with this article it could bring up an interesting circumstance for Apple.
Some comanies sue over this because it Dilutes their Trademark, so I guess the price for becoming so sucessful is that you loose any hold on your trademark.
Any thoughts to round this out or clarify my statments/questions?
All I can say is that the individual coder is partially responsible for putting themself in such a position. Research the company, talk to the employees. Don't just jump into a job not knowing what the culture is like.
Perhaps the problem is that there aren't enough good companies out there along with the dilution of the number of tech workers and the dot bomb is forcing people to take jobs they otherwise would not.
Long gone are the days of drive up dentists to Yahoo's main offices
Pretty soon it's not going to be steel mills, paper mills, car factories etc.. that are the greatest harm to the environment, but all the crap wasted paper and materials that forced advertising uses. almost 100% of the unsolicited advertising I receive goes straight into the recycle bin, though I'm sure I am in the minority.
I really wish a law would be passed to stop this crap. It may be unconstitutioal to prevent such a thing ( free speech blah blah blah ), but dammit it's a good idea.
I was in Suncoast video yesterday and because I used my visa card, yeah right, I was entitled to a 12 week E! magazine subscription. Dude just shoves the flier and a pen at me. GAHHH!
How about we start taxing mass marketing more. It'll generate revenue and reduce spam of all forms. Sounds good to me.
A lot of large companies will higher a consulting firm to come up with a name for them.
NPR had a story about this a couple months ago about how hard it is to come up with a company name now adays. The main problem, as already stated, is that most english words are already taken. So actually finding a meaningful word or combination of words is really really hard.
When there are no real words left, the firm then gets to make up a word that brings out the values of the company, while not sounding to outlandish. It's actually rather interesting how random sounds put together can make someone thing a particular thing when it has no real basis in english. I'm guessing it's based a lot on roots and prefix's used in english.
All in all though, such a firm should be responsible for making sure the name is not already taken.
What they don't mention is that when Apple did release the Mac, they named one of the system sounds Sosume/So-sue-me/, basically laughing at Apple recording.
Someone mentioned the Traveler in one of their replies and that made me think of a question.
For the footage of STX that you shot and was then cut, how did they tie in the fact that Wesley was a Traveler to him showing up? Did they even mention it or just let things slide by with Wes suddenly being there.
I don't think it was 2 years ago pundits were saying 'Linux will NEVER be on the desktop! No good apps, games, office suite, etc! During that time I have seen more and more stories where companies world wide [yeah INCLUDING the U.S. too]that are deploying it their businesses.
While some people ( read/. geeks) may be using linux on their desktops, I don't think anyone can account for a large enough desktop share to claim that *nix is on the desktop.
Don't get me wrong, I like *nix, just as I like windows and Mac/Os. I just don't think the numbers are there to make any hard hitting statement like this.
I really wish I could remember where I read this, but I read somewhere that one of MSs problems is that they are trying to expand into a market that they really aren't suited for.
They went on to place solaris, linux, and windows into their appropriate market locations
MSs was vastly on the desktop, while holding a modest position in the small server market.
Linux took up the rest of the small server market and had a small chunk of the Large end server market.
Solaris/mainframe systems had the rest of the large end servers.
To the author MS was trying to take hold of more of the small end server market that it could an also trying to wedge itself into the large end server market, all while maintaining the hold on desktop systems. Linux was also trying to take too large a hold of the desktop market instead of just staying with small end servers and the random techno geek.
I really agree with the authors assesment, really wish I could remember who it was. All I know is that he is rather promenent in the tech industry.
I agree. I really think MS needs to offer radically different versions of Windows. I don't need/want the majority of stuff windows comes with. I'd really like a stripped down windows and just add things as I want. Where my grandmother may want all the flashy stuff to be there.
It would be really need to see some stats on the frequency apps that come preinstalled are actually used. I'm talking about every single.exe not just the stuff in the Add/Remove Control Panel.
The bank will consolidate 41 Windows NT servers in eight European branches down to three IBM iSeries servers in London with six remote IBM xSeries Intel servers.
To me this sounds like they simply needed to revamp their whole setup to start with, be it with 3 windows/Mac/*nix servers.
"We had about 70,000 Windows server and desktop licences and eight NT networks serving Europe," said Tim Evans, UK IT manager at Banco do Brasil.
Again this sounds like saving from a reorg not an OS switch. They don't mention why they didn't choose windows when they reduced their server farm. It's a misleading statement that makes you think _only_ *nix allowed them to reduce their server numbers.
I really wish when stories like this were written they made things clear. It really don't help *nix much with shallow claims like this article makes. I'm all for people using the best thing that works for them, but I like consitant reasons and effects.
Additionally, I also wonder if these articles take into account the admin costs. Ignoring the misleading numbers the article gives. Is it easier to admin 3 Windows servers or 3 *nix servers? In my experience windows seems to be more hands off than *nix, or Solaris in particular. Maybe I'm comparing Apple's and Oranges though given my experience.
What about all the Foreign spam out there that doesn't use standard ascii like the archive seems to contain?
Almost all of my spam is from taiwan or china and sadly enough yahoo mail doesn't provide any good way to filter this out when the messages have fake headers. If I could simply filter on something in the Received path then it would help, but all they allow you to do is the From address as far as where the message came from.
2) Just because something is OSS doesn't mean you can't sell it -- read: copyright law.
True, but exactly how much Commercial software sold is OSS?
3) Just because something is free doesn't mean people won't buy it. You can download Red Hat for free. Red Hat as a company is profitable these days.
I don't think I agree. Their stock has gone from $150/share to $7/share in 3 years, and they have negative earnings projected. And again one of the things redhat banks on is that linux is obfuscated and people will need help. Also Redhat is not commercial software last I checked.
4) Many companies are based on solutions. Like the one I work for. Clients ask for custom programming, and we do it.
true, but I don't really consider that commercial software, and surely the client is not going to make the code they buy OSS to others. And I don't think that was what the article was targeted at either.
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Given their stock performance it doesn't look like SGI does much of anything anymore.
I should have never bought at $15 3 years ago, My commission would be more than the sale price.
"It ran three times faster on our Linux Alphas than on our IRIX SGI machines."
Ya think? They are different hardware. What I'd like to know is if there was actually a SGI machine that could meet the Alpha's performance. Harware money for a CG outfit like this shouldn't really be a problem, especially if they are just up front costs.
I completely agree that this is not a useful method for calculating pi.
However; I think it is very very important in the shear fact that it exists. Mathematics is represented all around us in nature in ways we simply don't see. This is one of them, and I think people should realize that there is a logical underpinning of how nature works, even if we will never comprehend it
You could at least give credit where due ;)
Here's one of the nicer sites I've seen that has a java applet to simulate this.
This type of story is becoming simply repetetive. /. should just have a side page that lists all the articles covering people converting from or choosing linux over Windows. Every single story doesn't belong on the main page.
Same goes for the "So in so has this report that Windows is cheaper than Linux" and vice versa. After a while it just becomes noise.
The nice thing about lawyers in this case is that a small mistake made in a lawyers case doesn't really hurt the overal product, however in software that isn't true. I'd rather have a lawyer whine a lot than have to test NxNxNxN... extra test cases myself...
Acorn Computer
Damn, and I thought the Professor was all that by making a radio out of a coconut. A computer in an acorn? DAMN!
If only mac users could make APPL's stock go up, I'm still down 25% :O
This got me to thinking (Stand back or the explosion might hurt you).
Windows has been around for almost 20 years now. It would seem that with it's home market share that it would have become a common term for OS's. Much like Klennex is now klennex, it's a generic term for tissue and any tissue maker can use the term in their product description without a TM or R mark.
Being a techincal person I am well aware that 'windows' in computer terms is MS Windows ( though 'window' may not be. But I wonder what 'windows' means to the average non technical computer user. Would they equate windows with Mac/OS, Windows, Solaris, etc.. etc.. . While not being completely on target with this article it could bring up an interesting circumstance for Apple.
Some comanies sue over this because it Dilutes their Trademark, so I guess the price for becoming so sucessful is that you loose any hold on your trademark.
Any thoughts to round this out or clarify my statments/questions?
Well there goes the Free Software Forces of Evil Organization (FSFEO). It was fun while it lasted...
Hey, this is /. spelling and grammer go out the window ;) Damn I hate homonyms.
All I can say is that the individual coder is partially responsible for putting themself in such a position. Research the company, talk to the employees. Don't just jump into a job not knowing what the culture is like.
Perhaps the problem is that there aren't enough good companies out there along with the dilution of the number of tech workers and the dot bomb is forcing people to take jobs they otherwise would not.
Long gone are the days of drive up dentists to Yahoo's main offices
Pretty soon it's not going to be steel mills, paper mills, car factories etc.. that are the greatest harm to the environment, but all the crap wasted paper and materials that forced advertising uses. almost 100% of the unsolicited advertising I receive goes straight into the recycle bin, though I'm sure I am in the minority.
:)
I really wish a law would be passed to stop this crap. It may be unconstitutioal to prevent such a thing ( free speech blah blah blah ), but dammit it's a good idea.
I was in Suncoast video yesterday and because I used my visa card, yeah right, I was entitled to a 12 week E! magazine subscription. Dude just shoves the flier and a pen at me. GAHHH!
How about we start taxing mass marketing more. It'll generate revenue and reduce spam of all forms. Sounds good to me.
I'll stop ranting now.
hehe, well I really don't care how much effort it takes MS to build such a thing, ie still being able to claim non modularity, I just want it :)
And really the whole modularity thing was based around IE, no? I would want IE installed anyway.
A lot of large companies will higher a consulting firm to come up with a name for them.
NPR had a story about this a couple months ago about how hard it is to come up with a company name now adays. The main problem, as already stated, is that most english words are already taken. So actually finding a meaningful word or combination of words is really really hard.
When there are no real words left, the firm then gets to make up a word that brings out the values of the company, while not sounding to outlandish. It's actually rather interesting how random sounds put together can make someone thing a particular thing when it has no real basis in english. I'm guessing it's based a lot on roots and prefix's used in english.
All in all though, such a firm should be responsible for making sure the name is not already taken.
What they don't mention is that when Apple did release the Mac, they named one of the system sounds Sosume /So-sue-me/, basically laughing at Apple recording.
hehe, 65% below their retail? wowo
typically an embedded OS offers more than the vanilla version, it may have real time extensions etc..
All in all it's meant for businesses not individuals.
Someone mentioned the Traveler in one of their replies and that made me think of a question.
For the footage of STX that you shot and was then cut, how did they tie in the fact that Wesley was a Traveler to him showing up? Did they even mention it or just let things slide by with Wes suddenly being there.
I don't think it was 2 years ago pundits were saying 'Linux will NEVER be on the desktop! No good apps, games, office suite, etc! During that time I have seen more and more stories where companies world wide [yeah INCLUDING the U.S. too]that are deploying it their businesses.
/. geeks) may be using linux on their desktops, I don't think anyone can account for a large enough desktop share to claim that *nix is on the desktop.
While some people ( read
Don't get me wrong, I like *nix, just as I like windows and Mac/Os. I just don't think the numbers are there to make any hard hitting statement like this.
I really wish I could remember where I read this, but I read somewhere that one of MSs problems is that they are trying to expand into a market that they really aren't suited for.
They went on to place solaris, linux, and windows into their appropriate market locations
MSs was vastly on the desktop, while holding a modest position in the small server market.
Linux took up the rest of the small server market and had a small chunk of the Large end server market.
Solaris/mainframe systems had the rest of the large end servers.
To the author MS was trying to take hold of more of the small end server market that it could an also trying to wedge itself into the large end server market, all while maintaining the hold on desktop systems. Linux was also trying to take too large a hold of the desktop market instead of just staying with small end servers and the random techno geek.
I really agree with the authors assesment, really wish I could remember who it was. All I know is that he is rather promenent in the tech industry.
I agree. I really think MS needs to offer radically different versions of Windows. I don't need/want the majority of stuff windows comes with. I'd really like a stripped down windows and just add things as I want. Where my grandmother may want all the flashy stuff to be there.
.exe not just the stuff in the Add/Remove Control Panel.
It would be really need to see some stats on the frequency apps that come preinstalled are actually used. I'm talking about every single
The bank will consolidate 41 Windows NT servers in eight European branches down to three IBM iSeries servers in London with six remote IBM xSeries Intel servers.
To me this sounds like they simply needed to revamp their whole setup to start with, be it with 3 windows/Mac/*nix servers.
"We had about 70,000 Windows server and desktop licences and eight NT networks serving Europe," said Tim Evans, UK IT manager at Banco do Brasil.
Again this sounds like saving from a reorg not an OS switch. They don't mention why they didn't choose windows when they reduced their server farm. It's a misleading statement that makes you think _only_ *nix allowed them to reduce their server numbers.
I really wish when stories like this were written they made things clear. It really don't help *nix much with shallow claims like this article makes. I'm all for people using the best thing that works for them, but I like consitant reasons and effects.
Additionally, I also wonder if these articles take into account the admin costs. Ignoring the misleading numbers the article gives. Is it easier to admin 3 Windows servers or 3 *nix servers? In my experience windows seems to be more hands off than *nix, or Solaris in particular. Maybe I'm comparing Apple's and Oranges though given my experience.
hehe, I repeat. I use yahoo mail. Maybe that's my problem right there.
I did like it when I was using unix based mail and could procmail everything. *sigh*
When/if I get a newsystem maybe I'll leave my current one up as a permanent dedicated mail client.
What about all the Foreign spam out there that doesn't use standard ascii like the archive seems to contain?
Almost all of my spam is from taiwan or china and sadly enough yahoo mail doesn't provide any good way to filter this out when the messages have fake headers. If I could simply filter on something in the Received path then it would help, but all they allow you to do is the From address as far as where the message came from.
Hmm this isn't that interesting, I think I'll just wait around for the duplicate article post, maybe it'll be more interesting. ;)
2) Just because something is OSS doesn't mean you can't sell it -- read: copyright law.
True, but exactly how much Commercial software sold is OSS?
3) Just because something is free doesn't mean people won't buy it. You can download Red Hat for free. Red Hat as a company is profitable these days.
I don't think I agree. Their stock has gone from $150/share to $7/share in 3 years, and they have negative earnings projected. And again one of the things redhat banks on is that linux is obfuscated and people will need help. Also Redhat is not commercial software last I checked.
4) Many companies are based on solutions. Like the one I work for. Clients ask for custom programming, and we do it.
true, but I don't really consider that commercial software, and surely the client is not going to make the code they buy OSS to others. And I don't think that was what the article was targeted at either.