The money is in licenses, exclusive arrangements, and monopolistic tendencies.
The money is from licensing, the other two are ways of making people buy your licenses. And what is wrong with licensing per sey? If you like the product and want updates you pay the maintenance fee, if you don't you move on. Hopefully you are smart enough to only license a product after doing an evaluation of it. I know of very few companies that don't offer and eval version of their product.
Whether it's licensing fees or begging for donations, the people that write the software want people to pay them. One group gaurantees the money, the other doesn't. Are you a risky business person or do you like hard numbers to report at the end of the year?
I don't think OSS is bad. I like it, I just don't really think there is hard money in it. And this is mainly due to the end users. Why would you pay for something you don't have to? I'm sure we all have something better to do with the money an OSS dev wants us to donate.
What they are actually selling is the packaging.
Actually Evian is selling the mentality that the person is drinking safer water. Though this claim is largely different for everyone. Some people have very good tap water, others do not. Likewise some bottle water sources are good and others are not. It's mainly piece of mind for some people, which is objectively important.
The problem with OSS is that there is no money in it.
Some have said that the money is in tech support / documentation, but that is just as bad.
If your product generates enough tech support revenues to support a large project then you simply wrote horrible software, and chances are if you did write horrible software it won't be used. It's a paradox, so it probably won't actually happen. And people aren't that stupid - I hope.
And if you charge people for documentation, then I simply call that bundling. You are paying for a bunch of documentation that just happens to come with some software.
The way to make companies produce good software is to stop buying crappy software. It's pretty simple. If people stop paying for expensive tickets to go to professional sports then guess what, they will lower the price. It's simple economics of backlog.
"This sounds a little strange to me since you would need a line of site with no obsticals in the way to use this. The article doesn't explain how this might work."
So when I submitted this a week ago it gets rejected, but now that Mr. hey! submits it, it gets accepted. I see what's going on. Damn I need more punctuation in my handle.
Well in w2k it's listed as a service under the services admin tool control panel. I've never actually received a pop up so I dunno if it's working or I'm just not targeted.
An no I won't give out my IP for you to test it;) Not that the firewall would let you.
First off there are other companies that "license" their source code, like ICS. You could always find one of these companies and ask them how they do it.
Second, this does simply sound like a licensing issue. You trust your customers not to hack the license keys for the binary form of your product, or to redistribute it. So perhaps it's all about trust....
Actually MS did make a version of IE 5 sp1 for solaris, if you happen to be running that. While their official page says they don't distribute it anymore, it is still there
Sometimes they come attached to software you download from the web - the details are often included in the license agreement small print that most users click through without reading.
Which means you caused the problem not IE or windows.
And sometimes they don't even need your permission to download, but just hop on your hard drive, totally unannounced, because you are browsing the wrong webpage.
Too bad they don't go into more detail here about whether this is a general issue with malicious websites for most browsers, or actually expoloiting some hole in IE.
A few companies are now exploiting holes in Windows messenger to sneak adverts on to the screens of unsuspecting users.
Windows messenger _IS NOT_ part of IE. It is a seperate component that is unfortunatly automatically turned on. I do wish MS was better about what services were on by default, though I usually go in and turn off most services when I install windows, which I recommend. This is not a "hole" in the sense of a bug though, you _CAN_ turn it off.
While this article may have some basis, it really seems to be pointing at user stupidity. Don't browse some site, Read the EULA's and don't just click OK on a popup.
I never said I warzed anything. I just haven't actually bought anything in a while. I'm still running w2k with Office 2k which I both got 2.5 years ago with my laptop. So neened;)
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Sounds just like the MetaVerse from Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash. A lot of the ideas in the book must have sounded far fetched when he wrote it, but sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. Who knows where this will all go.
So are these considered to be weapons? I mean chop the thing down then drop them out of a plane, or strap an engine on it and you have a wooden missle.
I've always said we should just pack our garbage into a missile and fire it at the sun, and it seems like an even better solution now.
Some may say that the problems of the missile exploding and reigning fire and computers upon people is bad, but just think about it. If that thing explodes over your neighborhood. BAM! Computers for everone on the block.
Since when was javascript a subset of HTML? An end user could always criticize a website for trying to shove some strange funky code down their throat that could be potentially harmful when they didn't ask for it.
Unfortunatly, I doubt this is atypical of those serving under the government. While those actually running the systems are probably smart enough to not do such a thing, those using the systems may not be.
Computers were designed to play games? Maybe someone should have clued Babbage, Turing and the rest into this a while ago. We could have some kick ass gaming machines now, though they probably couldn't run notepad.
It still seems like MS it targetting everyone's grandmother.
Most of the new visual features look fine for a small number of files, but I just can't really see them scaling well, and does the average actual user really need most of these new UI features?
A snippit from a journalentry of mine. Apparantly this guy thinks we can do more than that already.
"And an example of this being that the government is capable of aiming a laser at any random person's head and recording all their thought and memories for later use."
So from what I can tell, if each of the Big 5 use a similar scheme that means that if I want to play an album from each of them I would need _5_ players, since they aren't going to use an open standard or at least a closed shared one. I think this, more than anything, will turn people off. I do not use anything other than winamp to listen to my mp3's and I don't want to have to install 5 applications and also switch between those 5 to listen to my music.
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The money is in licenses, exclusive arrangements, and monopolistic tendencies.
The money is from licensing, the other two are ways of making people buy your licenses. And what is wrong with licensing per sey? If you like the product and want updates you pay the maintenance fee, if you don't you move on. Hopefully you are smart enough to only license a product after doing an evaluation of it. I know of very few companies that don't offer and eval version of their product.
Whether it's licensing fees or begging for donations, the people that write the software want people to pay them. One group gaurantees the money, the other doesn't. Are you a risky business person or do you like hard numbers to report at the end of the year?
I don't think OSS is bad. I like it, I just don't really think there is hard money in it. And this is mainly due to the end users. Why would you pay for something you don't have to? I'm sure we all have something better to do with the money an OSS dev wants us to donate.
What they are actually selling is the packaging.
Actually Evian is selling the mentality that the person is drinking safer water. Though this claim is largely different for everyone. Some people have very good tap water, others do not. Likewise some bottle water sources are good and others are not. It's mainly piece of mind for some people, which is objectively important.
The problem with OSS is that there is no money in it.
Some have said that the money is in tech support / documentation, but that is just as bad.
If your product generates enough tech support revenues to support a large project then you simply wrote horrible software, and chances are if you did write horrible software it won't be used. It's a paradox, so it probably won't actually happen. And people aren't that stupid - I hope.
And if you charge people for documentation, then I simply call that bundling. You are paying for a bunch of documentation that just happens to come with some software.
The way to make companies produce good software is to stop buying crappy software. It's pretty simple. If people stop paying for expensive tickets to go to professional sports then guess what, they will lower the price. It's simple economics of backlog.
"This sounds a little strange to me since you would need a line of site with no obsticals in the way to use this. The article doesn't explain how this might work."
Four words: Really Really Tall Towers
The face is probably one of the most unused body parts for organ donors, maybe now it will become a little more important.
Wonder, where the money would go to buy one of these things, since organ donation is supposed to be non-profit.
I was hoping for at least a funny. :)
So when I submitted this a week ago it gets rejected, but now that Mr. hey! submits it, it gets accepted. I see what's going on. Damn I need more punctuation in my handle.
Well in w2k it's listed as a service under the services admin tool control panel. I've never actually received a pop up so I dunno if it's working or I'm just not targeted.
;) Not that the firewall would let you.
An no I won't give out my IP for you to test it
First off there are other companies that "license" their source code, like ICS. You could always find one of these companies and ask them how they do it.
Second, this does simply sound like a licensing issue. You trust your customers not to hack the license keys for the binary form of your product, or to redistribute it. So perhaps it's all about trust....
Actually MS did make a version of IE 5 sp1 for solaris, if you happen to be running that. While their official page says they don't distribute it anymore, it is still there
lol, I guess that's one story I don't need to read now. Thanks for the spoiler?
Sometimes they come attached to software you download from the web - the details are often included in the license agreement small print that most users click through without reading.
Which means you caused the problem not IE or windows.
And sometimes they don't even need your permission to download, but just hop on your hard drive, totally unannounced, because you are browsing the wrong webpage.
Too bad they don't go into more detail here about whether this is a general issue with malicious websites for most browsers, or actually expoloiting some hole in IE.
A few companies are now exploiting holes in Windows messenger to sneak adverts on to the screens of unsuspecting users.
Windows messenger _IS NOT_ part of IE. It is a seperate component that is unfortunatly automatically turned on. I do wish MS was better about what services were on by default, though I usually go in and turn off most services when I install windows, which I recommend. This is not a "hole" in the sense of a bug though, you _CAN_ turn it off.
While this article may have some basis, it really seems to be pointing at user stupidity. Don't browse some site, Read the EULA's and don't just click OK on a popup.
I never said I warzed anything. I just haven't actually bought anything in a while. I'm still running w2k with Office 2k which I both got 2.5 years ago with my laptop. So neened ;)
Sounds just like the MetaVerse from Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash. A lot of the ideas in the book must have sounded far fetched when he wrote it, but sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. Who knows where this will all go.
'How many people have given to [the] EFF more money than they have given to their local telecom to give them shitty DSL service?
Well I have Cable but besides that I get good service. So that'd be $0 to a shitty ISP and $0 to the EFF.
How many people have given more money to [the] EFF than they give each year to support the monopoly--to support the other side?
Let's see, I haven't bought an MS product at retail value in a long time so again, $0 for MS and $0 for the EFF.
Do I win something now???
So are these considered to be weapons? I mean chop the thing down then drop them out of a plane, or strap an engine on it and you have a wooden missle.
I've always said we should just pack our garbage into a missile and fire it at the sun, and it seems like an even better solution now.
Some may say that the problems of the missile exploding and reigning fire and computers upon people is bad, but just think about it. If that thing explodes over your neighborhood. BAM! Computers for everone on the block.
Since when was javascript a subset of HTML? An end user could always criticize a website for trying to shove some strange funky code down their throat that could be potentially harmful when they didn't ask for it.
Unfortunatly, I doubt this is atypical of those serving under the government. While those actually running the systems are probably smart enough to not do such a thing, those using the systems may not be.
Computers were designed to play games? Maybe someone should have clued Babbage, Turing and the rest into this a while ago. We could have some kick ass gaming machines now, though they probably couldn't run notepad.
It still seems like MS it targetting everyone's grandmother.
Most of the new visual features look fine for a small number of files, but I just can't really see them scaling well, and does the average actual user really need most of these new UI features?
A snippit from a journal entry of mine. Apparantly this guy thinks we can do more than that already.
"And an example of this being that the government is capable of aiming a laser at any random person's head and recording all their thought and memories for later use."
What? You mean Gattaca didn't drive everyone away from this idea already?
This sounds just like the way Drug Patents are handled plus the idea of being able to free the product with enough cash.
Currently, afaik, drugs patents last for 10-15 years after which anyone can manufacture the drug with out the creators permission.
So from what I can tell, if each of the Big 5 use a similar scheme that means that if I want to play an album from each of them I would need _5_ players, since they aren't going to use an open standard or at least a closed shared one. I think this, more than anything, will turn people off. I do not use anything other than winamp to listen to my mp3's and I don't want to have to install 5 applications and also switch between those 5 to listen to my music.
I wish I was getting your spam and not mine then. The only mail that I automatically get rid of is stuff I have filters set up for.