Do you think Apple has actually invented much of the hardware in the iPhone? of course not, it's off the shelf parts. So why is Apple the target? it sounds like to me this is a software patent argument. The people supplying the chips to Apple are the people infringing.
Nokia may have a case if and when Apple produce their own cell silicon, the radio part of the phone.
Patent law doesn't work that way, nor should it. Many of these companies who produce the low-level components (ICs, chipsets, etc.) in embedded electronics are based in Asian countries with little real-world IP enforcement.
If you import it and sell it, you're responsible.
Yeah, exactly - and we can't have Nokia suing itself, that would be silly. I mean they also get some chips from Infineon. And why the hell is Infineon suddenly based in Asia?
So you don't have to have a full defender stack in each city. And why would I need to destroy your whole stack in one turn, if attacking it means you can't seriously win even your first strike - and that's not even taking into account that you would have to bombard the city first.
your doing the classic fail where you think people just want to do email and browse the web. BZZZZZZZT, WRONG.
people want to be able to install that game or little app that tells them their star sign for the day. people don't have to be geeks to want a computer that's not crippled.
Gee, if only Apple had thought of an AppStore of sorts, where you could get things like that.
Why? Can't ma, pa, gram, and gramps just use a Windows XP or Ubuntu or Puppy Linux tablet?
Sure they could - just that they chose not to until now. Are you saying it takes Apple to make people buy them, or will they have to copy Apple again, with all those obvious things it takes to make them sellable?
The flaw is that there are no tactical variations that work. The biggest stack wins.
So all the defender needs is a bigger stack - attacker loses. No, let me rephrase that: the defender needs a good road infrastructure to move a couple of catapults to wherever the "stack of doom" tries to attack (that is a bit over a quarter of units in the SOD), supported by enough horses and melee units to finish off most of the weakened stack, and of course a couple of well promoted defense units. The best defensive is a preemptive counter attack just when the enemy has arrived.
because it's the best realization of the different potentially good ideas that revolve around the concepts of a smartphone - which doesn't strictly imply that it's original nor innovative.
The best realization of something that "doesn't really work." - You either didn't read the original statement (which I quoted) - or you fucking wrote it, you imbecil.
Not to mention that "doesn't strictly imply" is just a lame cop-out for "it very likely is".
Are you saying that Slashdot shouldn't argue about anything that is only available as a book not made into a movie yet? Including things like The Art of Computer Programming?
At least it would save us from "They didn't put that part of the book into the movie" arguments.
Good thing the summary didn't mention what he said about Nokia, else the Nokia fanboys would have to team up with the defenders of the company their beloved Nokia is just suing - no, wait.
Steve made that call because he hoped to prevent a competitor from releasing a product he was nervous about.
Why would he be nervous about yet another Desktop for Linux, when Eazel showed that Linux users don't want a new GUI? Heck, the fact that the Project Looking Glass is Open Source yet still dead without Sun pushing it should tell you something.
Apple use off the shelf components, stuff that real innovative companies design and manufacturer to enable companies like apple to make their shiny toys.
I bet you also said Apple is evil for using proprietary parts.
Is it just me, or has Apple become more and more oppressive to users and developers over the last couple of years? Barely a day seems to go by when they haven't fucked someone over.
Do you remember the days when you could only use Apple HDs on Apple computers?
No, I can only remember that you needed a third party app to format not-officially-supported HDs - or patch HD SC Setup. Again just a way to tell users "if we don't support it, find your own way to do it - just don't bugger us if it doesn't work"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX
Compliant via compatibility feature:
The following are not officially certified as POSIX compatible, but they conform in large part to the standards by implementing POSIX support via some sort of compatibility feature, usually translation libraries, or a layer atop the kernel. Without these features, they are usually noncompliant.
NT kernel when using Microsoft SFU 3.5 or SUA
Windows 2000 Server or Professional with Service Pack 3 or later. To be POSIX compliant, one must activate optional features of Windows NT and Windows 2000 Server.[17]
Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 1 or later
Windows Server 2003
Windows Vista
Windows 7
Mostly POSIX-compliant: GNU/Linux (most distributions — see LSB)
Looks like Windows and Linux are about equal, and OS X is actually Fully POSIX-compliant
I love how people say this and presume they've just said something significant. Mac OS X's UNIX certification is not worth much more than the advertising bullet-point they us it for. Both Linux and Mac OS X are UNIX in every way that actually matters today, namely POSIX-compliance.
POSIX compliance is what actually matters? So Windows NT and up can be UNIX - I did not know that.
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Do you think Apple has actually invented much of the hardware in the iPhone? of course not, it's off the shelf parts. So why is Apple the target? it sounds like to me this is a software patent argument. The people supplying the chips to Apple are the people infringing.
Nokia may have a case if and when Apple produce their own cell silicon, the radio part of the phone.
Patent law doesn't work that way, nor should it. Many of these companies who produce the low-level components (ICs, chipsets, etc.) in embedded electronics are based in Asian countries with little real-world IP enforcement.
If you import it and sell it, you're responsible.
Yeah, exactly - and we can't have Nokia suing itself, that would be silly. I mean they also get some chips from Infineon. And why the hell is Infineon suddenly based in Asia?
So much for that theory.
What are the roads for, then?
So you don't have to have a full defender stack in each city. And why would I need to destroy your whole stack in one turn, if attacking it means you can't seriously win even your first strike - and that's not even taking into account that you would have to bombard the city first.
In the open? You wait in the city of course. Or is the attacking stack going to not attack the city?
your doing the classic fail where you think people just want to do email and browse the web. BZZZZZZZT, WRONG.
people want to be able to install that game or little app that tells them their star sign for the day. people don't have to be geeks to want a computer that's not crippled.
Gee, if only Apple had thought of an AppStore of sorts, where you could get things like that.
Why? Can't ma, pa, gram, and gramps just use a Windows XP or Ubuntu or Puppy Linux tablet?
Sure they could - just that they chose not to until now. Are you saying it takes Apple to make people buy them, or will they have to copy Apple again, with all those obvious things it takes to make them sellable?
Didn't you forget "right click vs. wrong click", or was that advanced tech support?
On the other hand, the average tech support call is from somebody who calls tech support more often than the average person.
That doesn't discern between people who don't call tech support because they don't need it and those who do, but can't figure out how to do even that.
The flaw is that there are no tactical variations that work. The biggest stack wins.
So all the defender needs is a bigger stack - attacker loses. No, let me rephrase that: the defender needs a good road infrastructure to move a couple of catapults to wherever the "stack of doom" tries to attack (that is a bit over a quarter of units in the SOD), supported by enough horses and melee units to finish off most of the weakened stack, and of course a couple of well promoted defense units. The best defensive is a preemptive counter attack just when the enemy has arrived.
There fixed that for you. Now I know English is not your first language, so I'll be lenient on you.
Well, you must obviously have English as a first language to make up quotes. You just can't do that in any other language.
No wait:
Well, you must obviously hate Apple to make up quotes. You just can't do that if you are sane
because it's the best realization of the different potentially good ideas that revolve around the concepts of a smartphone - which doesn't strictly imply that it's original nor innovative.
The best realization of something that "doesn't really work." - You either didn't read the original statement (which I quoted) - or you fucking wrote it, you imbecil.
Not to mention that "doesn't strictly imply" is just a lame cop-out for "it very likely is".
Because everyone now wants to buy stuff like that...we can't say Apple doesn't know how to create a need/demand out of thin air...
"Create a need out of thin air" - more like create an excuse to bash Apple out of thin air.
At least it would save us from "They didn't put that part of the book into the movie" arguments.
You FORTH mean?
corrupt is stack Your ....
Good thing the summary didn't mention what he said about Nokia, else the Nokia fanboys would have to team up with the defenders of the company their beloved Nokia is just suing - no, wait.
Steve made that call because he hoped to prevent a competitor from releasing a product he was nervous about.
Why would he be nervous about yet another Desktop for Linux, when Eazel showed that Linux users don't want a new GUI? Heck, the fact that the Project Looking Glass is Open Source yet still dead without Sun pushing it should tell you something.
Apple use off the shelf components, stuff that real innovative companies design and manufacturer to enable companies like apple to make their shiny toys.
I bet you also said Apple is evil for using proprietary parts.
BTW, what are your thoughts on the A4?
what exactly the iphone has so novel to be patentable? multitouch, but on a phone? that doesn't really work.
So why does everybody feel the need to copy it - badly?
"See Nokia’s suit against Apple for a parallel example of frivolous litigation"
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Hehe, "Rapidité!"
Is it just me, or has Apple become more and more oppressive to users and developers over the last couple of years? Barely a day seems to go by when they haven't fucked someone over.
Do you remember the days when you could only use Apple HDs on Apple computers?
No, I can only remember that you needed a third party app to format not-officially-supported HDs - or patch HD SC Setup. Again just a way to tell users "if we don't support it, find your own way to do it - just don't bugger us if it doesn't work"
NT kernel when using Microsoft SFU 3.5 or SUA Windows 2000 Server or Professional with Service Pack 3 or later. To be POSIX compliant, one must activate optional features of Windows NT and Windows 2000 Server.[17] Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 1 or later Windows Server 2003 Windows Vista Windows 7
Mostly POSIX-compliant: GNU/Linux (most distributions — see LSB)
Looks like Windows and Linux are about equal, and OS X is actually Fully POSIX-compliant
OS X is UNIX, Linux is Unix "like".
I love how people say this and presume they've just said something significant. Mac OS X's UNIX certification is not worth much more than the advertising bullet-point they us it for. Both Linux and Mac OS X are UNIX in every way that actually matters today, namely POSIX-compliance.
POSIX compliance is what actually matters? So Windows NT and up can be UNIX - I did not know that.
Why would they choose to support a codec that is a rival (theora) to one in which they hold patents (H.264)?
Patent, not patents. One patent out of over a thousand.
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Here in TN, with parental consent forms signed, you can work at McDonald's at age 15+ (16+ w/o such a form).
What makes a 16 yr old any more responsible then a 16 yr old is beyond me, though.
The same thing that makes 12 year olds responsible enough to be tried for murder as adults, but 20 year olds too young to drink.