Saudi Arabian-American homes have been reported on Fox News as buying fleeing Chinese women and keeping them as slaves, unable to leave their house - and this is happening in the US. Very bizzare.
Yeah but with great power comes great responsibility. I agree with you 100% that information needs to flow freely BUT, in this case you've got a TON of power and NO responsibility... and we're not talking about 401k's, we're talking about things like religious freedom and free speech.
That being said, I don't think any US corporations are going to start executing competitors and charge their families for the cost of the bullet.
They're not supposed to be able to profit or spin off of the freeworld's innovation. What was the UN thinking?
I thought the whole point of building a government the right way was so that one day you could reap technelogical benefits for the greater good. But now, after we've made the cake, China gets to eat it too. Something is dreadfully wrong when a country like China is given a go-card to get 50 years of technology for nothing and continue in its old ways.
...a country with one of the worst records of human rights violations now has their own:
Flavor of linux (RedFlag) DVD standards wireless encryption Video compression (AVS) Taikonauts Access to windows source code Web searching (Chinese Search Alliance) CPU architecture (Dragon)
Is anybody else out there as concerned as I am about this?
It's the "us" word that threw me. I don't know how you compare UW to MIT - but elitism is elitism.
I agree with your point that we need to make ourselves more valuable, but that becomes exponetially harder as the area of avaialble workers trails out from the epicenter. I'de say about 99.9% of the world's workforce does nothing but re-invent the wheel; to include: a new model car, a new cheeseburger, a new super marktet etc.
In America, the trend has been in the past that we (or at least some of us) where part of that top.1% - infact much of the world's innovation (and mathematical or scientific breakthroughs) come from places like Turkey, and places most Americans can't point to on a map.
Only true innovators belong in that top slot, and I guess now is the time that America as a whole is learning the same thing, but from a manufacturing standpoint. The nation is coming to the realization that it's filled not with skilled labor, but very high paid aristocracy.
I truly belive that the white color equivalent of the french revolution is going to take place. It will be felt first in IT, and all of the fat wealth that existed will be re destributed more evenly. But power always collects itself into groups, so there will always be a need for leadership, so the sky isn't falling completely.
What makes us worth more? Better quality, better innovation, and higher productivity.
I absolutely disagree with everything you've said.
Better quality - really?? You think a programmer who's spent more time working on C in his spare time has something to fear from someone who stayed up late remembering lines for a play, or acing an essay in english class to get into a top school?
Newsflash: You'll never be half the coder he is. But I'm very proud of you for trying to please everyone, I'm sure you're a much better, more humble person because of it - except for the fact that you embrace your ivory tower like a childhood blanket, and hide under it for protection from a bad economy.
Better innovation - really?? Is that in reference to the pissing videogame machine you MIT guys made, or are you referring to the Segway that can open a door? How about that whole AI thing... didn't Minsky say he was astonished at your lack of innovation and dissapointed?
WOW... you guys are a real show stopper - not to mention that you're piggy backing off of some dude who ACTUALLY innovated by creating the Segway. You think that coat-tailing a bunch of laureates is going to show you how to innovate? All it shows me is that your daddy was rich, or you've got no social life anymore because you became a tool to a system that builds precision cogs, NOT innovators.
You think your thesis prof. is going to help you innovate? He's going to put you into a little slot and let you do his research for him.
Higher productivity - really?? Have you read that book about the Personal Software Process that came out of the MIT Press recently? It was a fucking joke. You stupid fools actually swallow what you try to pawn off to the rest of us? Maybe you do... maybe you do it because you're just so damn good at swallowing that now you can do it with anything. Well good for you - way to be a tool.
Lastly: When you said the ratio of Indian to American pay is 2:1, you showed that you don't have a handle on the market, or the real market value - how could I expect anything less from someone in an ivory tower?
Let them eat cake mother fucker.
Personally I can't wait for this tsunami to hit the east coast first.
How much does it cost to support an IT team of grad students? They can work out of their dorm rooms (and usually do). I highly doubt they had to architect a massive cluster to do this type of work. So given the nature of CS work being the most portable of any profession, why so much overhead?
'clone' is a bad way to put it. The whole idea isn't to trick users into thinking they're in Windows. It's to build a spreadsheet program that isn't part of a $600 package, that doesn't truncate data after 65535 entries.
A spreadsheet is a spreadsheet is a spreadsheet. A browser is a browser is a browser (that's why product placement played the final role in the browser wars), a word processor is a word processor (he forgot the fued over VI and Emacs) etc.
Cloning software usually denotes heisting something, or just flat out copying. Microsoft 'clones' their own product line on a regular bi-yearly basis. Open source people build better standards like PHP, Apache, Perl etc.
So could one end up in jail for 3 years for "broadcasting" copyrighted material on a "public network" if a means comes along to sniff the 802.11 data back into a copyrighted file?
That's a great point, but also look at the 'corporatization' of the internet itself. When hosting was free (like crosswinds) and bandwidth flowed freely (like Sound America and FilePile, and SoftSeek), when there was no DMCA, no pop-up ads, there was alot more personal expression. But enter money into the equation and it ruins the entire culture. I think a good part of that culture is now gone forever, but indeed blogs will start to pick up the slack, but wave by-by to those good will services.
weather or not the creators NEED to sell it is a different story. Closed source is great for selling. Open source is really really good for developing. I could live quite happily if you told me you couldn't possibly make money on free software. It was never meant as a scheme to get the same amount in the BANK as Microsoft - it was about delivering superior QUALITY.
If you can't stand Markoff, click my name, be my friend :)
Story is "By JOHN MARKOFF" ???
a rkoff.h tml
The same dude that demonized Mitnick to keep his paycheck?
This guy is still working? What a jerkoff. He was probably paid by Intel to write that story.
more detail here:
http://www.simson.net/clips/96.IU.MitnickM
so... this program will help me correctly fill in the ID3 tags of all my MP3's? Thanks :)
no, not really - it's just that the nerd chicks got alot hotter. Sorry brother, they're still out of your league.
Saudi Arabian-American homes have been reported on Fox News as buying fleeing Chinese women and keeping them as slaves, unable to leave their house - and this is happening in the US. Very bizzare.
Thanks, I will check it out!
Yeah but with great power comes great responsibility. I agree with you 100% that information needs to flow freely BUT, in this case you've got a TON of power and NO responsibility... and we're not talking about 401k's, we're talking about things like religious freedom and free speech.
That being said, I don't think any US corporations are going to start executing competitors and charge their families for the cost of the bullet.
They're not supposed to be able to profit or spin off of the freeworld's innovation. What was the UN thinking?
I thought the whole point of building a government the right way was so that one day you could reap technelogical benefits for the greater good. But now, after we've made the cake, China gets to eat it too. Something is dreadfully wrong when a country like China is given a go-card to get 50 years of technology for nothing and continue in its old ways.
...a country with one of the worst records of human rights violations now has their own:
Flavor of linux (RedFlag)
DVD standards
wireless encryption
Video compression (AVS)
Taikonauts
Access to windows source code
Web searching (Chinese Search Alliance)
CPU architecture (Dragon)
Is anybody else out there as concerned as I am about this?
Steganosis(sp) - it's been a while - I think it was Steganos
There used to be a program called Steganosis in the win95 days. I'm sure there's a modern equivalent, if not an updated version.
Makes you wonder what the demon is hiding
It's the "us" word that threw me. I don't know how you compare UW to MIT - but elitism is elitism.
.1% - infact much of the world's innovation (and mathematical or scientific breakthroughs) come from places like Turkey, and places most Americans can't point to on a map.
I agree with your point that we need to make ourselves more valuable, but that becomes exponetially harder as the area of avaialble workers trails out from the epicenter. I'de say about 99.9% of the world's workforce does nothing but re-invent the wheel; to include: a new model car, a new cheeseburger, a new super marktet etc.
In America, the trend has been in the past that we (or at least some of us) where part of that top
Only true innovators belong in that top slot, and I guess now is the time that America as a whole is learning the same thing, but from a manufacturing standpoint. The nation is coming to the realization that it's filled not with skilled labor, but very high paid aristocracy.
I truly belive that the white color equivalent of the french revolution is going to take place. It will be felt first in IT, and all of the fat wealth that existed will be re destributed more evenly. But power always collects itself into groups, so there will always be a need for leadership, so the sky isn't falling completely.
What makes us worth more? Better quality, better innovation, and higher productivity.
I absolutely disagree with everything you've said.
Better quality - really?? You think a programmer who's spent more time working on C in his spare time has something to fear from someone who stayed up late remembering lines for a play, or acing an essay in english class to get into a top school?
Newsflash: You'll never be half the coder he is. But I'm very proud of you for trying to please everyone, I'm sure you're a much better, more humble person because of it - except for the fact that you embrace your ivory tower like a childhood blanket, and hide under it for protection from a bad economy.
Better innovation - really??
Is that in reference to the pissing videogame machine you MIT guys made, or are you referring to the Segway that can open a door? How about that whole AI thing... didn't Minsky say he was astonished at your lack of innovation and dissapointed?
WOW... you guys are a real show stopper - not to mention that you're piggy backing off of some dude who ACTUALLY innovated by creating the Segway. You think that coat-tailing a bunch of laureates is going to show you how to innovate? All it shows me is that your daddy was rich, or you've got no social life anymore because you became a tool to a system that builds precision cogs, NOT innovators.
You think your thesis prof. is going to help you innovate? He's going to put you into a little slot and let you do his research for him.
Higher productivity - really??
Have you read that book about the Personal Software Process that came out of the MIT Press recently? It was a fucking joke. You stupid fools actually swallow what you try to pawn off to the rest of us? Maybe you do... maybe you do it because you're just so damn good at swallowing that now you can do it with anything. Well good for you - way to be a tool.
Lastly: When you said the ratio of Indian to American pay is 2:1, you showed that you don't have a handle on the market, or the real market value - how could I expect anything less from someone in an ivory tower?
Let them eat cake mother fucker.
Personally I can't wait for this tsunami to hit the east coast first.
in a word: no
How much does it cost to support an IT team of grad students? They can work out of their dorm rooms (and usually do). I highly doubt they had to architect a massive cluster to do this type of work. So given the nature of CS work being the most portable of any profession, why so much overhead?
'clone' is a bad way to put it. The whole idea isn't to trick users into thinking they're in Windows. It's to build a spreadsheet program that isn't part of a $600 package, that doesn't truncate data after 65535 entries.
A spreadsheet is a spreadsheet is a spreadsheet. A browser is a browser is a browser (that's why product placement played the final role in the browser wars), a word processor is a word processor (he forgot the fued over VI and Emacs) etc.
Cloning software usually denotes heisting something, or just flat out copying. Microsoft 'clones' their own product line on a regular bi-yearly basis. Open source people build better standards like PHP, Apache, Perl etc.
That would be a fine theory except for the fact that most early Christians were non-Jews - including the 6/7 churches that Revelation mentions.
Jesus was a Jew and John 1:11 says
"He came unto His own, but His own recieved him not."
What's stopping them from asking for $5000, or $10,000, or $50,000?
So could one end up in jail for 3 years for "broadcasting" copyrighted material on a "public network" if a means comes along to sniff the 802.11 data back into a copyrighted file?
That's a great point, but also look at the 'corporatization' of the internet itself. When hosting was free (like crosswinds) and bandwidth flowed freely (like Sound America and FilePile, and SoftSeek), when there was no DMCA, no pop-up ads, there was alot more personal expression. But enter money into the equation and it ruins the entire culture. I think a good part of that culture is now gone forever, but indeed blogs will start to pick up the slack, but wave by-by to those good will services.
It sounds like they're going after imbedded Linux as a large part of all this if they're targetting chip makers.
Free software MIGHT be dead if:
if you want to sell it
weather or not the creators NEED to sell it is a different story. Closed source is great for selling. Open source is really really good for developing. I could live quite happily if you told me you couldn't possibly make money on free software. It was never meant as a scheme to get the same amount in the BANK as Microsoft - it was about delivering superior QUALITY.
Perhaps in the future we may even see these pledge requests linked within the GUI itself? ... ever heard of "Adware"????
For CompSci terms and other more general information I look it up on www.everything2.com
It's got GREAT explanations of even the most intricate topics.