somebody else will just take their place in line. its not the company but the people it caters to. convince them to not buy shit...and there wont be a need to sell shit.
ok. that didn't address my question. i'll try again posing it in a different way.
1. you know that your employer monitors your internet usage. 2. you saw a link on slashdot; wanted to click on said link but were not sure of its contents. 3. you chose to click on the link anyway. 4. the contents of the page were questionable in your eyes. 5. you posted on slashdot sarcastically thanking the parent (ie. bitching) that you'd have to answer to your employer as to the contents of the link in question.
given these events. why is it the fault of somebody else that you will have to answer for your actions?
why would you click on a link you know nothing about at work? doubly so when you know your workplace monitors your internet usage?
making the excuse that you "assumed" the link was safe because they didn't explicitly say NSFW is also incorrect so please do not include that in your answer.
I wonder if your unrealistic view of the world is a result of the same cognitive disorder that causes you to ignore what I actually said and replace it with strawmen that have nothing at all to do with my statements...
It's not really a disorder; unless thats how you classify a conscious decision.
"Does he deserve lesser care because blah blah excuses excuses, bleeding heart crap, blah blah"
Honestly, do you really think that having an intelligent or even reasonable conversation is possible when you have retorts like this. And you wonder why I "ignored" you're statements.
My original comment, while not very eloquent, was a simple statement on the state of medical care provided to low income/disadvantaged persons in the U.S.
I completely share your opinion that if you work hard in the U.S. you can elevate your socio-economic status; its not as easy as it once was, but it is still very possible. However, these things can take time, and it is completely plausible for an honest, hard working person to fall ill before they have achieved a higher quality of living for themselves and their family. If they are denied the medical care they need who has failed? Is it the individual? Is it our system? Its not an easy question to answer and is completely situational, but there are cases where individuals are left behind through no fault of their own.
As for your father being "fucked." I'm sure that he would find employment, and I'm sure that he could provide the day to day necessities for his family. But given the current state of the health care industry, it is very possible that he would find himself and his family subject to a lower quality of medical care. I have family members who are doctors and volunteer in lesser privileged areas of the country. Their stories of sub-par medical care can be quite alarming.
I will agree that there are a lot of people in this country who are products of a social handout system that encourages laziness. But, there are also hardworking people. Maybe the individual who washes dishes has aspirations of doing more with his life but at the moment can't so must continue with his/her current profession. Is it really bleeding-heart liberal bullshit to say that they don't deserve the same medical care that I receive simply because I happen to have a very comfortable and gainful position further up the food chain? If they are making a positive contribution to society and working to advance their position; or are already working at their full capacity they at least, if nothing else, deserve to be healthy.
My dad dropped out of school in 7th grade, and worked his life as a contractor. He was by no definition "dealt the smart card" but he made a decent life for himself, and had health insurance the whole time I was growing up.
I'm not going to make any type of assumption about your life or your fathers, but I would bet that if your father was faced with the same set of circumstances today, he'd be fucked.
Your excuses are empty and unconvincing. If he wants it bad enough, he'll get it. If he doesn't, he'll rely on people like you to make stupid excuses for him.
Thats fine, I can completely respect your viewpoint and your ability to view life as black and white. It's just my opinion that those of us who are fortunate in life are always one unfortunate circumstance away from being disadvantaged; and if/when that happens, I'd rather live in a society that looked at individuals situations objectively rather than issued a blanket statement on hard work and tough love.
Rest assured, if you were in dire need of help, I wouldn't tell you to fuck off; I would want to, but I wouldn't. My "bleeding heart" precludes me from being an utter asshole.
Tell that to the guy who busts his ass cleaning dishes all day because thats all he can do. Does he deserve lesser care because he wasn't dealt the smart card, or was born into a socio-economic situation that predisposed him to said lifestyle?
If you believe so...then you need to walk a mile in his shoes.
Now ask yourself if getting paid $5 to steal Mrs. Smith's gradebook and change a grade is worth 20 years in jail. Does it become worth a longer sentence if you have to be smarter to accomplish the same task?
As others have stated before me, its really not the act of changing the grades thats so bad. Its the methods employed in doing so.
Manually changing a grade in a gradebook with a pencil is not a criminal offense, but what if that gradebook was located in the teachers car, or home, or even in the school? The students could possibly have to break into any one of those locations. If they were caught, they would not be in court for changing grades, it would be for breaking and entering and possibly theft of personal property. Few people would be hard pressed to disagree with those offenses.
I'm not here to argue what should be deemed a reasonable sentence for computer crimes, but the information/data they were acessing really is secondary when considering the actions required to obtain it.
I'm sorry I worded it poorly, but I didn't meant to infer that teens aren't allowed to have their own concept of value. I'm merely stating that children's concept of value does not match up with big corporation executive's concept of value, and it is ridiculous for Mr. Ballmer to spin it as such.
I respectfully disagree with you. In fact, I would venture to say that the executive's concept of value falls in line with not only the 13 year old girl's but with anybody who finds at least one positive reason to pay for and install Vista. The end-goal of MS is to sell Vista to as many people as possible. So when Ballmer said that this woman's daughter "...saw a lot of value" he was being truthful; this girl perceived some facets of Vista to be superior to XP.
If anybody sounded absurd during that whole exchange it was the mother. Instead of acknowledging the fact that MS had successfully convinced her daughter that Vista had features that she wanted, she chose to marginalize her daughter based on her age so that she could attempt to corner a MS executive.
Actually it is the PERFECT retort, because it shows just how out-of-touch Microsoft is. Teenagers don't care about value, because they have no concept of what value is.
This is untrue on so many levels. The assumption here is that what constitutes value for you holds for everybody. Value is relative to each individual. Does a blind man find value in photo-realistic graphics? Of course not, just as a person with sight perceives no value in a book printed in braille.
In this case, the girl decided that the Vista interface and widget system provided a tangible benefit over XP to her. This attitude of marginalizing people because of their age is ridiculous and really just illustrates that you are the one who is out of touch.
Transistors sound harsher because they don't have as much harmonic distortion.
Both tubes and transistors cause harmonic distortion when saturated. Its the nature of the distortion that causes the harshness.
When a solid state amp is saturated the result is a hard clipped waveform where there is a sharp edge at the point of clipping. This produces a lot of odd harmonics in the frequency spectrum. Odd harmonics over the fundamental tend to sound very harsh to the human ear.
When a tube amp saturates it tends to soft clip the waveform. This means that at the point where clipping occurs the waveform becomes slightly compressed giving a rounder edged waveform. This tends to produces more even harmonic distortion, which to the human ear is not perceived to be nearly as harsh.
Your argument is nonsense. If what you said held true, large scale applications should be able to be written is assembler. Without high level tools it wouldn't be feasible to create applications the scale we do today.
Wrong. What he is saying is that people who choose to use C/C++ for their applications should be competent enough to properly handle their own allocation and de-allocation of memory. If your abilities as a programmer preclude you from properly managing your application's memory then you need to look at alternatives that will take care of that for you.
There are plenty of languages out there that offer things like garbage collection. Developers need to make better choices about which tools they use to meet their needs, and also understand their limitations and work within those parameters.
whomever modded this up should seriously re-think what they did.
the subject of the article/video, while mildly obnoxious, was tasered after being detained by several of florida's "finest". Sure, they guy went over his allotted time, he was a bit high strung, and some would probably say he was a grandstanding ass. but the only weapon i saw him carry was a book. granted, in some cultures a book is considered more dangerous than a knife. i just like to think we haven't progressed to that point in our "culture".
i doubt you'd be hard pressed to find a person who would think that holding a knife to a baby shouldn't warrant tasering. but in this case using that example detracts from the fact that excessive force was used; and that, as the grandparent put, is an indicator that we are heading down a dangerous path.
while i don't condone the students behavior at the podium, i most certainly do condemn the behavior of the law enforcement.
Bullshit, this is 2007, not 1997. ok, i'll bite. if broadband internet access is not a luxury in your eyes then you must prove to me beyond any reasonable doubt that it is a necessity. try to do it without reverting to profanity or primal "chest banging"
if you can, give me one, just one example of a situation where you cannot survive in this world without internet access. i hypothesize that any daily activity you decree to be necessary involving internet access can, in and of itself, also be considered a luxury.
the majority of things that we use on a daily basis are luxury items...the perception of technological ubiquity in ones daily life does not immediately relegate things to the level of necessity.
rural areas have always suffered from having limited access to luxury items when compared to more densely populated areas. i just don't see the logic in this complaint. i'm not saying its fair...but its nothing new.
if internet is really more important than living someplace that is sparsely populated then you pay a premium to get what you need...or you move. my in-laws live on a dairy farm and they still drive 45 minutes just to buy groceries.
This is just a PR move. Anyone with any MMO experience will tell you this "oversight group" will simply end up being dominated by a clique of the most powerful players in the game. The most popular players, the leaders of the most powerful guilds/clans/corps and the richest players will all take the top seats and nothing will ever get done. Corruption will run rampant and eventually the users are going to get fed up and ANOTHER scandal will eventually be revealed.
Man, its amazing how realistic games are these days!
No, they really are idiots. I'm not talking about people who can't compile source code or fix registry problems by themselves. I'm talking about people who really do think IE (or Google for that matter) is "the Internet"; people who can barely check their email; people who don't understand that turning off the monitor doesn't turn off "the computer". These are the same people who somehow manage to stumble through life and reproduce only because our society is built upon catering to the lowest common denominator all the time.
i don't know how to rebuild an engine. i don't know anything about tax law. i can't separate waste from water to make it drinkable again. i can't start or fly a commercial airplane. i wouldn't know the first thing about properly laying a brick sidewalk. i am completely incapable of stitching up a wound...
none of the people who excel at any of the above tasks have ever once called me an idiot. why should i look down at them because they may not know something that i do?
the world is made of of all types of people for a reason. thinking you are above any one person makes you more of an idiot than they'll ever be.
i'm not a rocket scientist either and i can definitely understand where you are coming from. i have the same frustration with the road runner cartoons. doesn't anybody understand that gravity does not temporarily suspend itself when you run off of a cliff...wait...sorry, i forgot that this is just entertainment.
if you want things to behave like they do in real life maybe you should just experience more real life...otherwise, just enjoy the game for what it is, entertainment.
but in this case, he's not upset that there is a lack of hardware to run on his linux box. he's saying that he'd be upset if the kernel maintainers prevented him from using hardware that does run on linux.
why the hell should he have to try and find hardware that runs on linux when the hardware he presently owns already does run...just not if they merge said patch into the tree.
for him, switching from linux to windows is not a statement about what hardware run on his box...its about what hardware his box would allow him to run.
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somebody else will just take their place in line. its not the company but the people it caters to. convince them to not buy shit...and there wont be a need to sell shit.
And they are like Led Zepplin...only heavier.
dude.
ok. that didn't address my question. i'll try again posing it in a different way.
1. you know that your employer monitors your internet usage.
2. you saw a link on slashdot; wanted to click on said link but were not sure of its contents.
3. you chose to click on the link anyway.
4. the contents of the page were questionable in your eyes.
5. you posted on slashdot sarcastically thanking the parent (ie. bitching) that you'd have to answer to your employer as to the contents of the link in question.
given these events. why is it the fault of somebody else that you will have to answer for your actions?
dude.
why would you click on a link you know nothing about at work? doubly so when you know your workplace monitors your internet usage?
making the excuse that you "assumed" the link was safe because they didn't explicitly say NSFW is also incorrect so please do not include that in your answer.
dude.
*cough* 40,000 * 0.01 = 400 *cough*
Before the 'main stream' accepts video gaming as here, now and legitimate. I don't see many "Rise of Books" or "Rise of Pro Football" segments.
I think "Rise of Books" was pretty well covered in "Human History."
dude.
I wonder if your unrealistic view of the world is a result of the same cognitive disorder that causes you to ignore what I actually said and replace it with strawmen that have nothing at all to do with my statements...
It's not really a disorder; unless thats how you classify a conscious decision.
"Does he deserve lesser care because blah blah excuses excuses, bleeding heart crap, blah blah"
Honestly, do you really think that having an intelligent or even reasonable conversation is possible when you have retorts like this. And you wonder why I "ignored" you're statements.
My original comment, while not very eloquent, was a simple statement on the state of medical care provided to low income/disadvantaged persons in the U.S.
I completely share your opinion that if you work hard in the U.S. you can elevate your socio-economic status; its not as easy as it once was, but it is still very possible. However, these things can take time, and it is completely plausible for an honest, hard working person to fall ill before they have achieved a higher quality of living for themselves and their family. If they are denied the medical care they need who has failed? Is it the individual? Is it our system? Its not an easy question to answer and is completely situational, but there are cases where individuals are left behind through no fault of their own.
As for your father being "fucked." I'm sure that he would find employment, and I'm sure that he could provide the day to day necessities for his family. But given the current state of the health care industry, it is very possible that he would find himself and his family subject to a lower quality of medical care. I have family members who are doctors and volunteer in lesser privileged areas of the country. Their stories of sub-par medical care can be quite alarming.
I will agree that there are a lot of people in this country who are products of a social handout system that encourages laziness. But, there are also hardworking people. Maybe the individual who washes dishes has aspirations of doing more with his life but at the moment can't so must continue with his/her current profession. Is it really bleeding-heart liberal bullshit to say that they don't deserve the same medical care that I receive simply because I happen to have a very comfortable and gainful position further up the food chain? If they are making a positive contribution to society and working to advance their position; or are already working at their full capacity they at least, if nothing else, deserve to be healthy.
My dad dropped out of school in 7th grade, and worked his life as a contractor. He was by no definition "dealt the smart card" but he made a decent life for himself, and had health insurance the whole time I was growing up.
I'm not going to make any type of assumption about your life or your fathers, but I would bet that if your father was faced with the same set of circumstances today, he'd be fucked.
Your excuses are empty and unconvincing. If he wants it bad enough, he'll get it. If he doesn't, he'll rely on people like you to make stupid excuses for him.
Thats fine, I can completely respect your viewpoint and your ability to view life as black and white. It's just my opinion that those of us who are fortunate in life are always one unfortunate circumstance away from being disadvantaged; and if/when that happens, I'd rather live in a society that looked at individuals situations objectively rather than issued a blanket statement on hard work and tough love.
Rest assured, if you were in dire need of help, I wouldn't tell you to fuck off; I would want to, but I wouldn't. My "bleeding heart" precludes me from being an utter asshole.
dude.
Get a better job.
Tell that to the guy who busts his ass cleaning dishes all day because thats all he can do. Does he deserve lesser care because he wasn't dealt the smart card, or was born into a socio-economic situation that predisposed him to said lifestyle?
If you believe so...then you need to walk a mile in his shoes.
dude.
Now ask yourself if getting paid $5 to steal Mrs. Smith's gradebook and change a grade is worth 20 years in jail. Does it become worth a longer sentence if you have to be smarter to accomplish the same task?
As others have stated before me, its really not the act of changing the grades thats so bad. Its the methods employed in doing so.
Manually changing a grade in a gradebook with a pencil is not a criminal offense, but what if that gradebook was located in the teachers car, or home, or even in the school? The students could possibly have to break into any one of those locations. If they were caught, they would not be in court for changing grades, it would be for breaking and entering and possibly theft of personal property. Few people would be hard pressed to disagree with those offenses.
I'm not here to argue what should be deemed a reasonable sentence for computer crimes, but the information/data they were acessing really is secondary when considering the actions required to obtain it.
dude.
I'm sorry I worded it poorly, but I didn't meant to infer that teens aren't allowed to have their own concept of value. I'm merely stating that children's concept of value does not match up with big corporation executive's concept of value, and it is ridiculous for Mr. Ballmer to spin it as such.
I respectfully disagree with you. In fact, I would venture to say that the executive's concept of value falls in line with not only the 13 year old girl's but with anybody who finds at least one positive reason to pay for and install Vista. The end-goal of MS is to sell Vista to as many people as possible. So when Ballmer said that this woman's daughter "...saw a lot of value" he was being truthful; this girl perceived some facets of Vista to be superior to XP.
If anybody sounded absurd during that whole exchange it was the mother. Instead of acknowledging the fact that MS had successfully convinced her daughter that Vista had features that she wanted, she chose to marginalize her daughter based on her age so that she could attempt to corner a MS executive.
dude.
Actually it is the PERFECT retort, because it shows just how out-of-touch Microsoft is. Teenagers don't care about value, because they have no concept of what value is.
This is untrue on so many levels. The assumption here is that what constitutes value for you holds for everybody. Value is relative to each individual. Does a blind man find value in photo-realistic graphics? Of course not, just as a person with sight perceives no value in a book printed in braille.
In this case, the girl decided that the Vista interface and widget system provided a tangible benefit over XP to her . This attitude of marginalizing people because of their age is ridiculous and really just illustrates that you are the one who is out of touch.
dude.
Transistors sound harsher because they don't have as much harmonic distortion.
Both tubes and transistors cause harmonic distortion when saturated. Its the nature of the distortion that causes the harshness.
When a solid state amp is saturated the result is a hard clipped waveform where there is a sharp edge at the point of clipping. This produces a lot of odd harmonics in the frequency spectrum. Odd harmonics over the fundamental tend to sound very harsh to the human ear.
When a tube amp saturates it tends to soft clip the waveform. This means that at the point where clipping occurs the waveform becomes slightly compressed giving a rounder edged waveform. This tends to produces more even harmonic distortion, which to the human ear is not perceived to be nearly as harsh.
dude
Your argument is nonsense. If what you said held true, large scale applications should be able to be written is assembler. Without high level tools it wouldn't be feasible to create applications the scale we do today.
Wrong. What he is saying is that people who choose to use C/C++ for their applications should be competent enough to properly handle their own allocation and de-allocation of memory. If your abilities as a programmer preclude you from properly managing your application's memory then you need to look at alternatives that will take care of that for you.
There are plenty of languages out there that offer things like garbage collection. Developers need to make better choices about which tools they use to meet their needs, and also understand their limitations and work within those parameters.
dude.
freedom fighters fight.
this man said he would fight, and then settled.
dude.
whomever modded this up should seriously re-think what they did.
the subject of the article/video, while mildly obnoxious, was tasered after being detained by several of florida's "finest". Sure, they guy went over his allotted time, he was a bit high strung, and some would probably say he was a grandstanding ass. but the only weapon i saw him carry was a book. granted, in some cultures a book is considered more dangerous than a knife. i just like to think we haven't progressed to that point in our "culture".
i doubt you'd be hard pressed to find a person who would think that holding a knife to a baby shouldn't warrant tasering. but in this case using that example detracts from the fact that excessive force was used; and that, as the grandparent put, is an indicator that we are heading down a dangerous path.
while i don't condone the students behavior at the podium, i most certainly do condemn the behavior of the law enforcement.
dude.
as stupid as it seems...guessing release titles is quite fun.
my turn,
asexual alcoholic amoebas
altruistic arthritic arachnids
dude.
...its a luxury not a basic utility.Bullshit, this is 2007, not 1997. ok, i'll bite. if broadband internet access is not a luxury in your eyes then you must prove to me beyond any reasonable doubt that it is a necessity. try to do it without reverting to profanity or primal "chest banging"
if you can, give me one, just one example of a situation where you cannot survive in this world without internet access. i hypothesize that any daily activity you decree to be necessary involving internet access can, in and of itself, also be considered a luxury.
the majority of things that we use on a daily basis are luxury items...the perception of technological ubiquity in ones daily life does not immediately relegate things to the level of necessity.
dude.
...its a luxury not a basic utility.
rural areas have always suffered from having limited access to luxury items when compared to more densely populated areas. i just don't see the logic in this complaint. i'm not saying its fair...but its nothing new.
if internet is really more important than living someplace that is sparsely populated then you pay a premium to get what you need...or you move. my in-laws live on a dairy farm and they still drive 45 minutes just to buy groceries.
dude.
This is just a PR move. Anyone with any MMO experience will tell you this "oversight group" will simply end up being dominated by a clique of the most powerful players in the game. The most popular players, the leaders of the most powerful guilds/clans/corps and the richest players will all take the top seats and nothing will ever get done. Corruption will run rampant and eventually the users are going to get fed up and ANOTHER scandal will eventually be revealed.
Man, its amazing how realistic games are these days!
dude.
No, they really are idiots. I'm not talking about people who can't compile source code or fix registry problems by themselves. I'm talking about people who really do think IE (or Google for that matter) is "the Internet"; people who can barely check their email; people who don't understand that turning off the monitor doesn't turn off "the computer". These are the same people who somehow manage to stumble through life and reproduce only because our society is built upon catering to the lowest common denominator all the time.
i don't know how to rebuild an engine. i don't know anything about tax law. i can't separate waste from water to make it drinkable again. i can't start or fly a commercial airplane. i wouldn't know the first thing about properly laying a brick sidewalk. i am completely incapable of stitching up a wound...
none of the people who excel at any of the above tasks have ever once called me an idiot. why should i look down at them because they may not know something that i do?
the world is made of of all types of people for a reason. thinking you are above any one person makes you more of an idiot than they'll ever be.
dude.
i'm not a rocket scientist either and i can definitely understand where you are coming from. i have the same frustration with the road runner cartoons. doesn't anybody understand that gravity does not temporarily suspend itself when you run off of a cliff...wait...sorry, i forgot that this is just entertainment.
if you want things to behave like they do in real life maybe you should just experience more real life...otherwise, just enjoy the game for what it is, entertainment.
dude.
so, why store the "vital" parts of the application locally, doesn't that defeat the purpose of a network based application?
dude.
Its funny, Before it was us Geeks being bullied. now the Geeks in school are bulling everyone else on the web.
so basically...said geeks failure to learn from others past mistakes makes them no better than the assholes that came before them.
dude.
you've taken his statement and reversed it.
but in this case, he's not upset that there is a lack of hardware to run on his linux box. he's saying that he'd be upset if the kernel maintainers prevented him from using hardware that does run on linux.
why the hell should he have to try and find hardware that runs on linux when the hardware he presently owns already does run...just not if they merge said patch into the tree.
for him, switching from linux to windows is not a statement about what hardware run on his box...its about what hardware his box would allow him to run.
dude.