Just one problem, Blizzard has been turning their nose up at Loki for ages. Starcraft if the ONLY thing that keeps my win2k box alive and well, and I have a lot of friends who are the same way.
Just a thought, ever wonder if a certain Redmond company knows this, and has paid Blizzard off to keep their great line of games windows (and I guess Mac) only.
Scot mentions that most of the debts are over a year old. yeah, they have debts to activision from a while ago, but anything recent has been either paid off, or they could pay off easily, if they didn't have these few bigs one from the past on them. They probably have a few debts all over the place, but their really seeking an extension on one or two big ones that are bringing them down. That's what I got out of it at least. If they could cover their asses for a little longer, they'd be looking good. I could be wrong. *Shrugs*
I agree with you, distro's should ship with stuff turned off, and ports locked down tight. But this causes a small problem, "Customers want stuff to work out of the box."
OpenBSD ships tightly locked down, but Theo and the team aren't trying to sell a product, they are writing an OS for themselves first and foremost, and to anyone who wants a copy, they'll sell ya a dirt cheap cd. But distro's like Red Hat and Mandrake are selling a product to people who want stuff to work, locking a system down causes confusion for the unitiated. It sucks, but you can't just print in the manual that "this is turned off by default" and expect people to notice because we all know, no newbie rtfm's.
Really surprises me that REd Hat 7.1 ships with sendmail locked down to remote connections, if ya know sendmail, its easy to workaround. But for a Linux newbie who wants a mail server for his home...... he had to call me. You start locking systems down and selling a secure distro and all of a sudden, your tech support is flooded by callers screaming that "it doesn't work." Strangely enough, you even get this from fairly expirianced users, because we have come to expect stuff to work right out of the box.
Its a shame really, a side effect of our instant oatmeal, quick fix, now now now society I guess.:-)
"Well, not the shakeout is in full swing and these cookbook guys are the first to get the boot. Good riddance, I say. They were never really useful to begin with. Hope they got a Starbucks on skid row."
Dude, there is a Starbucks everywhere, isn't there one on the international space station now?
Well, personally, I believe the chicago fire was caused by meteors. And I say that in plural. If you look at the chain of events around that, there were similier fires that sprung up all the way from arkansas up to wisconsin, and they all started within hours of each other.
As for arabs, yeah, I knew that place was empty. If I know my theology, and I proboaly don't, they considered it a holy place before it was hit. I think they believe some great sinner entered the area and Allah got pissed. So like, 15 highwaymen might have died there, in a really interesting way I might add.
And back to tunguska, yeah, its out in the middle of BFE, but from the initial investigation, all the tribes said, no one was inside the blast area. Aparranetly, it had been some area that was decreed off limits for cattle grazing due o some tribal warefare, it was kind of a neutral zone. But 30 years later, they got some of the locals to admit that some clans were grazing animals in the area. They feared that the gods would strike them down if they talked, so they kept quiet for years.
And I don't think 3000 a year is unreasonable, the really, nasty, big rocks hit us fairly rarely, once in a blue moon. But they can potentialy kill a lot of people. The average is maintained over millenia. Man'e been around for a long time and a lot can happen.
in the fifties, this was all done by hand. Imagine doing stuff they teach in graduate level classes at universities with nothing but a slide rule and a pencil and paper. people can't even do that anymore.... well, nasa does claim to have a guy who can do orbital mechanics in his head, personally, I'd like to meet him. He's probably deranged.
Ever heard of planning? You think they go up there, and calculate that stuff on the fly? Fuck no, they plan ahead, so when they are up there, those same computers can be used on the fly when something unexpected goes wrong. They still do it today, it makes sense, and they still can't do some of the stuff they want to do. You don't need tons of computer power, just patiece to wait for what ya got to come out say what's probable. Today, they can spend time calculating scenarios, so they can be even more prepared, and its still not enough. I just love how your average person thinks its just, point the rockets and fire em off, and your there.
Its all an estimation dude, because recorded history gets chopped before printing was invented, and even after that, most of it was religious for a long time. And again, I must reiterate, its an average based on data from a VERY LONG TIME. We haven't had any substancial impacts in this cetury, and we had one last century (in tersm of death toll, tunguska killed a few hundred people or so). But what about 500 AD? 0 AD? 500 BC? That's a long time and there are a lot of fluctuations in populations very small areas, and evidence of impacts occuring at th same time.
Stop thinking about it as a "3000 must die every year" its an average based on data pieced togther since man started walking.
Dude, its an average, spread accross one year for statistics. Do you not understand statistics. So, if 3000 people didn't die this year, 6000 have to die next year to maintain it, or 9000 the next year. It adds up until ya get a big strike, like tunguska, although only a few hundred people are bel;ieved to have died there. The point is, maybe no one dies for centuries, but then one hits and kills a half a million people.
And we have had a few, chicago fire killed a lot of people, and that was a bunch of small meteor strikes accorss the whole midwest US, fires it caused killed a entire town in wisconson, someone remind me of the name, but the death count was over 1500. Estimated death count for all those areas involved in what is collectively called the great chicago fire is like 15,000 - 25,000. But I could be mixing facts on that one.
There is also recorded documentation of nighttimes bright as day in London and cities accross western Europe, and a religios document claiming refercne to the fiery mountain from god in russian like a week before. People die in russia, the ash the strike throws upo reflects light in the atmosphere and westerners see pretty lights all night long for a week.
Check your history, there are no documented cases of asteroid strikes, but their are plenty of acts of god all over theplace. What do you think that big area of glass covered desert in suadi arabia is from? The natives fear that place because allah burned it to the ground and into glass......
two words man, orbital mechanics. People need to realize that flying around in space is NOTHING like flying around in the atmosphere. Everything is in circles. You have gravity influence from the earth, which you are cirling, all and all the major local masses, especially jupiter and the sun.
For instance, you wanna get to a probe that it is the same orbit, and therfore, going the same speed as you. You speed up, which transfers you to a higher orbit, and you have to pass the thing by, and drop down to speed and it comes up behind you. IF you time it right. It takes supercomputers to calculate this stuff, the math behind it is so complex that it exceeds Einstein's physics.
People need to stop belieing that space travel is like we see it on Hollywood, cause its not.
The Air Force has been tracking this stuff for decades, tons of stuff hits the earth every mont, and a large, tunguska sized chunck hits on the average of every 10 years. We've been lucky so far, the tunguska asteroid came in at a very shallow angle, which caused the explosion to be amplified (and butterfly shaped if you care), and most of these rocks hitting us hit in the middle of an ocean, or near the poles, or some unihabited region. But they do hit, and the air force just released gobs of documents just recently about stuff they've been watching since the late 40's.
Statistically speaking, they say that 3000 people die in a year from meteror impacts. That's not to say that 3000 people die every year from this, its an average, 300,000 people die every century.
An amusement park where the giant mechanical dinosaurs go ape shit wild and send one made of liquid metal back in time to slay the mother of their would be destroyer Jon. But they are always thwarted by ancient technology that can't hurt it, but still manages to kill it after failing to kill it the first 300 times they tried it.......
.... oh, and they try to put it on display in los angelas and it goes nuts ala Godzilla for a while.
Yeah, some people game, but there are a lot more non-gamers amoung the "average" computer users than there are gamers. Most of em play solitaire (see also: aisle riot) and that's about it. I know, as a gamer, it horrifies me that some people don't play games, but hey, to each his own.
Yeah, I guess I left a few things out. Instant messanging is a mixed bag, but I sort of think of it under email I guess. But some people swear by it, some people swear it off. Digi cams are a lot less common than you'd think, but I have seen em work in Linux. printing, I lkeave out, maybe I'm baised in that, I print next to nothing, unless it is for buissiness use, I personally have no use for a printer personally, and most of ym friends are green freaks who look at printers as tree killers. As for installing/maintaining software, have you used red-carpet? I can teach a monkey how to use that thing, it's so damned easy. Only hard thing is teaching my friends how to find the Linux equiv of some windows program they wanna use..... and explaining to them why Limewire for Linux reaks of goat nads. And as for upgrading hardware, come on, most average users canb't do that in windows without taking the thing in to best and paying fifty big ones for a 10 minute job.
He says that Linux, while fine for us techies, isn't useful for your average computer user. I disagree. Linux is of course, fine for us techies, but its also good for normal users IMHO. Who it isn't good enough for [yet] is the corporate desktop.
Most of the "average" computer users I know want three things, web, email, and tunes. What do we have for that, netscape/mozilla/galleon/konq, for email we have evolution, gtkmail, and a dozen other ones that are pretty good, and for tunes, xmms looks just like a player that everyone who owns a computer knows how to use..... Its fine for your average user. Come on, how many people really need Word? People who do corproate work at their home pc's. Which is where it fails. We still don't have a killer office app, and until we do, this guy will be right.
Linux isn't dead on the desktop, were still just too young to sit up high in the chair. But I think were due for a growth spurt.
And to back up my claim, I got quite a few non-techy friends who I have introduced to linux running ximian gnome who love their "new" computer. They can get on the net, they can send mail, and play their mp3's just fine. Some of them have even taken some initiative and learned to do a little more with their systems. Like learning the command line and shell scripting. Needless to say, they exceeded even my optimistic expectations.
Well..... there's something about taking main system memory and using it for swap.... it seems.... silly. Since swap is virtual ram that the memory management sub system sees as just more ram with a lower priority (not quite, but basically). So, taking ram, and telling the copmputer to pretend its ram.... seems a little silly.
And that's not exactly what I wanna do anyways. Ya close a program, it leaves memory. Open it again, it has to load from the disk. That's slow. So, why not, load it the first time from the disk, and while I am running the program, it copies in the background to this "buffer" level between the disk and ram. So, when I close the app, it leaves memory, but opening it again later results in it being loaded from this weird ram disk array of simms.
I dunno, with today's computers, it might be almost unoticable. Closest I have done to this way using a small ramdisk in a similer way (that required a lot of micromanagement, but it did make stuff faster). Most of my interest in this idea is due to a love of putting old hardware to use, and just to see if it can be done.
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Ahahahaha! I never thought of it that way, least I didn't pay money for my copy, but I feel, its a legal copy, someone else paid for it. :-(
Just one problem, Blizzard has been turning their nose up at Loki for ages. Starcraft if the ONLY thing that keeps my win2k box alive and well, and I have a lot of friends who are the same way.
Just a thought, ever wonder if a certain Redmond company knows this, and has paid Blizzard off to keep their great line of games windows (and I guess Mac) only.
Scot mentions that most of the debts are over a year old. yeah, they have debts to activision from a while ago, but anything recent has been either paid off, or they could pay off easily, if they didn't have these few bigs one from the past on them. They probably have a few debts all over the place, but their really seeking an extension on one or two big ones that are bringing them down. That's what I got out of it at least. If they could cover their asses for a little longer, they'd be looking good. I could be wrong. *Shrugs*
Do the original justice? How, by shooting it in the head? Tron was awful!
Sun's gonna go Red Giant in 5 billion years, not 15.
Picky picky picky.
carpet bombing can be fun! Else, we wouldn't have this disk to play with: http://nuintari.net/images/aol60cd.png
I agree with you, distro's should ship with stuff turned off, and ports locked down tight. But this causes a small problem, "Customers want stuff to work out of the box."
:-)
OpenBSD ships tightly locked down, but Theo and the team aren't trying to sell a product, they are writing an OS for themselves first and foremost, and to anyone who wants a copy, they'll sell ya a dirt cheap cd. But distro's like Red Hat and Mandrake are selling a product to people who want stuff to work, locking a system down causes confusion for the unitiated. It sucks, but you can't just print in the manual that "this is turned off by default" and expect people to notice because we all know, no newbie rtfm's.
Really surprises me that REd Hat 7.1 ships with sendmail locked down to remote connections, if ya know sendmail, its easy to workaround. But for a Linux newbie who wants a mail server for his home...... he had to call me. You start locking systems down and selling a secure distro and all of a sudden, your tech support is flooded by callers screaming that "it doesn't work." Strangely enough, you even get this from fairly expirianced users, because we have come to expect stuff to work right out of the box.
Its a shame really, a side effect of our instant oatmeal, quick fix, now now now society I guess.
"Well, not the shakeout is in full swing and these cookbook guys are the first to get the boot. Good riddance, I say. They were never really useful to begin with. Hope they got a Starbucks on skid row."
Dude, there is a Starbucks everywhere, isn't there one on the international space station now?
$lynx -head -dump http://www.censorware.org/ | grep Server
Server: Microsoft-IIS/4.0
$echo your welcome
means NT as the OS, since win2k runs IIS 5.0 afaik.
I love the power glove.... its so bad! *Snooty look*
That movie sucked!
Shovel 4 and a half tons of top soil into a wheel barrow, and cart it all over the yard, spreading evenly with a rake. It hurts after the forth trip.
Why I ever let a person with a green thumb into my life is beyond me.
is this the beginings of a new nemises for the dust puppy? Since the crud puppy seems to be long gone.
Well, personally, I believe the chicago fire was caused by meteors. And I say that in plural. If you look at the chain of events around that, there were similier fires that sprung up all the way from arkansas up to wisconsin, and they all started within hours of each other.
As for arabs, yeah, I knew that place was empty. If I know my theology, and I proboaly don't, they considered it a holy place before it was hit. I think they believe some great sinner entered the area and Allah got pissed. So like, 15 highwaymen might have died there, in a really interesting way I might add.
And back to tunguska, yeah, its out in the middle of BFE, but from the initial investigation, all the tribes said, no one was inside the blast area. Aparranetly, it had been some area that was decreed off limits for cattle grazing due o some tribal warefare, it was kind of a neutral zone. But 30 years later, they got some of the locals to admit that some clans were grazing animals in the area. They feared that the gods would strike them down if they talked, so they kept quiet for years.
And I don't think 3000 a year is unreasonable, the really, nasty, big rocks hit us fairly rarely, once in a blue moon. But they can potentialy kill a lot of people. The average is maintained over millenia. Man'e been around for a long time and a lot can happen.
in the fifties, this was all done by hand. Imagine doing stuff they teach in graduate level classes at universities with nothing but a slide rule and a pencil and paper. people can't even do that anymore.... well, nasa does claim to have a guy who can do orbital mechanics in his head, personally, I'd like to meet him. He's probably deranged.
Ever heard of planning? You think they go up there, and calculate that stuff on the fly? Fuck no, they plan ahead, so when they are up there, those same computers can be used on the fly when something unexpected goes wrong. They still do it today, it makes sense, and they still can't do some of the stuff they want to do. You don't need tons of computer power, just patiece to wait for what ya got to come out say what's probable. Today, they can spend time calculating scenarios, so they can be even more prepared, and its still not enough. I just love how your average person thinks its just, point the rockets and fire em off, and your there.
Its all an estimation dude, because recorded history gets chopped before printing was invented, and even after that, most of it was religious for a long time. And again, I must reiterate, its an average based on data from a VERY LONG TIME. We haven't had any substancial impacts in this cetury, and we had one last century (in tersm of death toll, tunguska killed a few hundred people or so). But what about 500 AD? 0 AD? 500 BC? That's a long time and there are a lot of fluctuations in populations very small areas, and evidence of impacts occuring at th same time.
Stop thinking about it as a "3000 must die every year" its an average based on data pieced togther since man started walking.
Dude, its an average, spread accross one year for statistics. Do you not understand statistics. So, if 3000 people didn't die this year, 6000 have to die next year to maintain it, or 9000 the next year. It adds up until ya get a big strike, like tunguska, although only a few hundred people are bel;ieved to have died there. The point is, maybe no one dies for centuries, but then one hits and kills a half a million people.
And we have had a few, chicago fire killed a lot of people, and that was a bunch of small meteor strikes accorss the whole midwest US, fires it caused killed a entire town in wisconson, someone remind me of the name, but the death count was over 1500. Estimated death count for all those areas involved in what is collectively called the great chicago fire is like 15,000 - 25,000. But I could be mixing facts on that one.
There is also recorded documentation of nighttimes bright as day in London and cities accross western Europe, and a religios document claiming refercne to the fiery mountain from god in russian like a week before. People die in russia, the ash the strike throws upo reflects light in the atmosphere and westerners see pretty lights all night long for a week.
Check your history, there are no documented cases of asteroid strikes, but their are plenty of acts of god all over theplace. What do you think that big area of glass covered desert in suadi arabia is from? The natives fear that place because allah burned it to the ground and into glass......
two words man, orbital mechanics. People need to realize that flying around in space is NOTHING like flying around in the atmosphere. Everything is in circles. You have gravity influence from the earth, which you are cirling, all and all the major local masses, especially jupiter and the sun.
For instance, you wanna get to a probe that it is the same orbit, and therfore, going the same speed as you. You speed up, which transfers you to a higher orbit, and you have to pass the thing by, and drop down to speed and it comes up behind you. IF you time it right. It takes supercomputers to calculate this stuff, the math behind it is so complex that it exceeds Einstein's physics.
People need to stop belieing that space travel is like we see it on Hollywood, cause its not.
The Air Force has been tracking this stuff for decades, tons of stuff hits the earth every mont, and a large, tunguska sized chunck hits on the average of every 10 years. We've been lucky so far, the tunguska asteroid came in at a very shallow angle, which caused the explosion to be amplified (and butterfly shaped if you care), and most of these rocks hitting us hit in the middle of an ocean, or near the poles, or some unihabited region. But they do hit, and the air force just released gobs of documents just recently about stuff they've been watching since the late 40's.
Statistically speaking, they say that 3000 people die in a year from meteror impacts. That's not to say that 3000 people die every year from this, its an average, 300,000 people die every century.
An amusement park where the giant mechanical dinosaurs go ape shit wild and send one made of liquid metal back in time to slay the mother of their would be destroyer Jon. But they are always thwarted by ancient technology that can't hurt it, but still manages to kill it after failing to kill it the first 300 times they tried it.......
.... oh, and they try to put it on display in los angelas and it goes nuts ala Godzilla for a while.
Yeah, some people game, but there are a lot more non-gamers amoung the "average" computer users than there are gamers. Most of em play solitaire (see also: aisle riot) and that's about it. I know, as a gamer, it horrifies me that some people don't play games, but hey, to each his own.
Yeah, I guess I left a few things out. Instant messanging is a mixed bag, but I sort of think of it under email I guess. But some people swear by it, some people swear it off. Digi cams are a lot less common than you'd think, but I have seen em work in Linux. printing, I lkeave out, maybe I'm baised in that, I print next to nothing, unless it is for buissiness use, I personally have no use for a printer personally, and most of ym friends are green freaks who look at printers as tree killers. As for installing/maintaining software, have you used red-carpet? I can teach a monkey how to use that thing, it's so damned easy. Only hard thing is teaching my friends how to find the Linux equiv of some windows program they wanna use..... and explaining to them why Limewire for Linux reaks of goat nads. And as for upgrading hardware, come on, most average users canb't do that in windows without taking the thing in to best and paying fifty big ones for a 10 minute job.
why I installed gnapster on all computers in question.
He says that Linux, while fine for us techies, isn't useful for your average computer user. I disagree. Linux is of course, fine for us techies, but its also good for normal users IMHO. Who it isn't good enough for [yet] is the corporate desktop.
Most of the "average" computer users I know want three things, web, email, and tunes. What do we have for that, netscape/mozilla/galleon/konq, for email we have evolution, gtkmail, and a dozen other ones that are pretty good, and for tunes, xmms looks just like a player that everyone who owns a computer knows how to use..... Its fine for your average user. Come on, how many people really need Word? People who do corproate work at their home pc's. Which is where it fails. We still don't have a killer office app, and until we do, this guy will be right.
Linux isn't dead on the desktop, were still just too young to sit up high in the chair. But I think were due for a growth spurt.
And to back up my claim, I got quite a few non-techy friends who I have introduced to linux running ximian gnome who love their "new" computer. They can get on the net, they can send mail, and play their mp3's just fine. Some of them have even taken some initiative and learned to do a little more with their systems. Like learning the command line and shell scripting. Needless to say, they exceeded even my optimistic expectations.
Well..... there's something about taking main system memory and using it for swap.... it seems.... silly. Since swap is virtual ram that the memory management sub system sees as just more ram with a lower priority (not quite, but basically). So, taking ram, and telling the copmputer to pretend its ram.... seems a little silly.
And that's not exactly what I wanna do anyways. Ya close a program, it leaves memory. Open it again, it has to load from the disk. That's slow. So, why not, load it the first time from the disk, and while I am running the program, it copies in the background to this "buffer" level between the disk and ram. So, when I close the app, it leaves memory, but opening it again later results in it being loaded from this weird ram disk array of simms.
I dunno, with today's computers, it might be almost unoticable. Closest I have done to this way using a small ramdisk in a similer way (that required a lot of micromanagement, but it did make stuff faster). Most of my interest in this idea is due to a love of putting old hardware to use, and just to see if it can be done.