Re: Point 4 - My eyes suggest to me that the quality of text in Gimp2 is not very good, at least on the windows version (the anti-aliasing is too dark, making it look chunkier than it should). Maybe I'm just spoiled by my desktop and subpixel antialiasing, so normal anti-aliasing looks tired these days.
I know that the other points aren't simple to implement, especially real-time typing along a path, unfortunately it is the level of support that is expected these days.
Okay, these might be limitations of the Windows version, but since I've used that I haven't felt like downloading a version for Linux / X11.
1) Font: [Aa]
(should be Font: Arial [Aa]
(should have [B][i][u] buttons underneath, if you have 50 fonts installed on your system that pull down menu gets ridiculous with every variant shown)
2) I click on the canvas to type, and I get some "Gimp Text Editor" window popup! How totally useless. I want to type directly onto the canvas. Not have YET ANOTHER WINDOW open up with a preview on the canvas.
3) I can't select parts of a single line of text to change the effect, which means doing a new bit of text for every change in style. i.e., text effects should be editable within a single text box.
4) Generated text looks like dogshit... not good for a art program, especially one which will be used so often for web design that includes text. It looked much better in Gimp 1, so I don't know what went wrong.
Yes, it is good that text gets a "text layer" and remains editable. However it is in the most ridiculous way - it makes the software look half baked.
Maybe I'm spoiled by the Photoshop text features... take a look at what they offer and how they work, and if those means of operation aren't patented, then please try and use them as inspiration towards making a better text tool.
I used to use Gimp an awful lot before I found Photoshop. Photoshop was bliss compared to the Gimp's UI. I then heard that Gimp 2 would fix a lot of the UI issues. However I was very disappointed when I tried Gimp 2.
I had been led to believe that this version would fix all the UI issues with the previous one.
The new text tool was so deficient that I was longing for the old text tool back. The UI was meant to be dockable... well, with a fuck load of effort I got separate windows to dock into the main toolbar. In other ways it was an improvement over Gimp 1 though, with brush preview and all that. Shame that this is all stuff that DPaint had in the 80's.
The Gimp can't be fixed. It needs a whole new front-end designed in collaboration with the users. A few prettier icons doesn't fix it.
Thanks. It didn't seem to affect operations at all, I presume that I have an up to date system that matches or exceeds 2004.1 now then? Is there a way to verify this or anything?
Gentoo is the distro that has made me most happy with Linux.
Well that, or deciding to install OpenBox as the Window Manager, and then having pure simplicity itself on my desktop as opposed to KDE or Gnome.
It has brought new life to my old HP Omnibook laptop, now 6 years old at least. Of course it was hell installing it, even with a Stage 3 install. The laptop was previously running Mandrake with Blackbox, and would run out of memory all the time (160MB installed) even without running much. Gentoo, by being custom all the way, means that I have memory spare, enough to run Apache and Postgresql and have a little portable web development machine.
The only thing that is scaring me is that I have just emerge -DUu world, and something has downloaded the kernel 2.4.21 headers when I have kernel 2.6.5 on my machine. I did emerge -pv world first as well, and this was not indicated, grrr.
I should have added "without their permission" to the statement about illegality of course. I'm only saying this because some person will get uppity and misread it.
I'm sure that AXA hasn't given their competitors permission to use their trademark to sell their own goods!
Of course, if AXA are suing Google to stop their own resellers and insurance agents advertising that they sell AXA insurance, that would be retarded!
There is no such thing as "dilution of copyright"... I don't see why so many people get copyright and trademarks mixed up, or think they are the same thing.
What is hard for you to understand about the fact that it is illegal to use another companies' trademarked name to sell your own goods?
The Google Adword links had "AXA" as the title! That is the problem. If they were "Bob's Financial Services" there wouldn't be a problem I'm sure... not one that I would agree with AXA's suing about anyway.
Well I was referring to the links on the right, I'm sure that the link to axa.co.uk isn't a problem.
Maybe the problem is that Adword space is so limited. Still, that is no excuse to misuse the trademark. The titles aren't "Get AXA insurance here", they are "AXA", etc. "Get links to companies selling AXA insurance" is a bit far fetched isn't it?
Also I'm sure that AXA are being heavy handed here, unless they've asked Google to remove the adwords before and nothing was done.
Nope, this is a simple case of trademark dilution, not about competition. Well, the bit about "AXA" is, I'm dubious about the other term which looks like generic English.
AXA's trademark is being used on Google without their permission, in a field related to their own - financial services. Quite clearly this is misuse of a trademark.
AXA might be going about this the wrong way, but what if they asked Google to remove them and they didn't? Going to court is the ONLY thing that AXA can do - they have to protect their trademark or they could lose it.
Google have only themselves to blame if they had prior warning of this issue. Hopefully this will make them think twice about their planned "Misuse other companies' trademarks for your own good" scheme as well.
This isn't "Free Advertising" for AXA at all. It is cheap, illgotten advertising for a gaggle of small fry companies and competitors who are misusing it.
Want a crappy analogy? You run a crappy double glazing company called "Bob's Glazing". You get very few customers, but a local competitor "MegaGlaze 3000" gets tonnes (for whatever reason). You decide to place an ad in Yellow Pages saying "MegaGlaze 3000", with your own phone number, in order to use their good name to get business for yourself.
Well that is what this case is about, other companies gaining from AXA's trademark.
I'm sure the logic goes like this:
Google sells adverts to company misusing trademark, hence Google also gains from the misuse of the trademark.
From reading other posts (the informed ones) in this thread, it looks like Google had better get its act together pretty darned quickly regarding this issue, they can't bury it and hope it will go away.
Are your adwords basically "We're better than XYZ because..." (legal), or "XYZ XYZ XYZ" (illegal).
And the former is only legal in countries where comparitive advertising is legal too.
For example, if I ran a brewery "A", and my adword used brewery B's name in a non-comparative sense, that would be illegal, it would be misuse of a trademark (assuming B had trademarked their name, of course!), misleading to the consumer and a lot lot more. In the UK you'd probably end up being kicked about by Trading Standards for a while aside from any legal action made by B against you.
Competition is not about using your competitors' name to boost yourself. It is about competing.
Here's the UK Google Page, snapshotted for your pleasure:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/deeppurple/GoogleAX A. png
Showing non-AXA sites using the AXA trademark illegally. I don't know if Google are registered in the UK though which might explain why Google France is getting sued.
Google aren't the ones to sue. They are the ones to subpoena to get the advertisers' information, and then sue the advertisers for misuse of a trademark.
I'm sure that Linus could ask Google to remove that link at any point for misusing his trademark on Linux.
Quite clearly Microsoft must have set up a Google adword that looks for "Linux" in a search.
This is the only problem. AXA should have asked Google to remove the offending adword for infringing on their trademark, and that would have been that. Unless Google declined of course, in which case AXA have no choice but to sue if they wish to keep their trademark. Google really should have consulted their lawyers about this issue.
I haven't used Adwords in a while, I don't know if Google's terms and conditions limit what advertisers can use for adword searches.
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Actually, I'll take emacs over death. Not sure about vi though!
(I recognise the power of vi however, but I'd have to take the damned vitutorial 10 times before I remembered all the shortcuts. That, or make a note of them on paper. Emacs can be configured nicely, but is way to complex for what most people use it for.)
Why do I like pico/nano? Because for most tasks it is ideal and works as expected and simply. I'm sure that Joe will be good for many people as well.
And for editors in X? As long as they give me the option to change the font to fixed-7x13 I'm happy. Although kate is a pretty good editor, and it has a couple of nice features that make me use it for certain work related tasks - namely order processing (use integrated terminal to run GPG to decrypt GPG encrypted customer payments, it is mainly the reduced window clutter and all-in-one functionality that make me use it).
I see a lot of posts here wittering on about how they'd never stoop to join a union and that they are clever enough to sort this out on their own, then bitching about the 60 hour week they do without compensation.
You're inside waiting for a compile, or helping someone click an icon, half dead... whilst the "stupid" unionised workers in other industries are out drinking, getting the women (or men, if you bend that way / are female) and having fun.
The trackpad on the Powerbook (and presumably the iBook) can be used to simulate 2 mouse buttons and two wheels in addition to standard movement by the addition of a third party driver. All the things are configurable as well.
It is called Sidetrack. It is free. It should be an option in the OS but Apple are odd when it comes to such things.
Yes, WinUAE and Fellow are Amiga emulators for the PC (and Linux).
Or you can get everything legally from Cloanto Software for $60 or so, in the new Amiga Forever 6.0 software package that includes lots of software, the latest 68k OS version (3.9), and so on.
Anyone thinking of moderating the parent troll up please be aware that Hyperion have a good relationship with the FSF, have done plenty of work with GPLd software before and have always complied with it 100%.
In addition, their modifications to GCC are already submitted to the main branch and will be included in the next release candidate.
Hardly "GPL Infringement", more like making full use of a resource in a legal and honourable manner, much in the same way that Apple use GCC as well.
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Re: Point 4 - My eyes suggest to me that the quality of text in Gimp2 is not very good, at least on the windows version (the anti-aliasing is too dark, making it look chunkier than it should). Maybe I'm just spoiled by my desktop and subpixel antialiasing, so normal anti-aliasing looks tired these days.
I know that the other points aren't simple to implement, especially real-time typing along a path, unfortunately it is the level of support that is expected these days.
Okay, these might be limitations of the Windows version, but since I've used that I haven't felt like downloading a version for Linux / X11.
... not good for a art program, especially one which will be used so often for web design that includes text. It looked much better in Gimp 1, so I don't know what went wrong.
... take a look at what they offer and how they work, and if those means of operation aren't patented, then please try and use them as inspiration towards making a better text tool.
1) Font: [Aa]
(should be Font: Arial [Aa]
(should have [B][i][u] buttons underneath, if you have 50 fonts installed on your system that pull down menu gets ridiculous with every variant shown)
2) I click on the canvas to type, and I get some "Gimp Text Editor" window popup! How totally useless. I want to type directly onto the canvas. Not have YET ANOTHER WINDOW open up with a preview on the canvas.
3) I can't select parts of a single line of text to change the effect, which means doing a new bit of text for every change in style. i.e., text effects should be editable within a single text box.
4) Generated text looks like dogshit
Yes, it is good that text gets a "text layer" and remains editable. However it is in the most ridiculous way - it makes the software look half baked.
Maybe I'm spoiled by the Photoshop text features
but that article author is entirely correct.
... well, with a fuck load of effort I got separate windows to dock into the main toolbar. In other ways it was an improvement over Gimp 1 though, with brush preview and all that. Shame that this is all stuff that DPaint had in the 80's.
I used to use Gimp an awful lot before I found Photoshop. Photoshop was bliss compared to the Gimp's UI. I then heard that Gimp 2 would fix a lot of the UI issues. However I was very disappointed when I tried Gimp 2.
I had been led to believe that this version would fix all the UI issues with the previous one.
The new text tool was so deficient that I was longing for the old text tool back. The UI was meant to be dockable
The Gimp can't be fixed. It needs a whole new front-end designed in collaboration with the users. A few prettier icons doesn't fix it.
Thanks. It didn't seem to affect operations at all, I presume that I have an up to date system that matches or exceeds 2004.1 now then? Is there a way to verify this or anything?
Gentoo is the distro that has made me most happy with Linux.
Well that, or deciding to install OpenBox as the Window Manager, and then having pure simplicity itself on my desktop as opposed to KDE or Gnome.
It has brought new life to my old HP Omnibook laptop, now 6 years old at least. Of course it was hell installing it, even with a Stage 3 install. The laptop was previously running Mandrake with Blackbox, and would run out of memory all the time (160MB installed) even without running much. Gentoo, by being custom all the way, means that I have memory spare, enough to run Apache and Postgresql and have a little portable web development machine.
The only thing that is scaring me is that I have just emerge -DUu world, and something has downloaded the kernel 2.4.21 headers when I have kernel 2.6.5 on my machine. I did emerge -pv world first as well, and this was not indicated, grrr.
Ah great, thanks!
This app needs to be ported to other Operating Systems if it is to gain momentum though.
Oh that's cool. I've been looking for a decent free compression / decompression application for a while.
.7z file format?
:P
Are there Unix command line tools for the
It doesn't appear to add context menus to Windows, it is so handy to be able to select an archive and right-click extract.
Could do with prettier icons on the toolbar too, because that is a really important consideration
I should have added "without their permission" to the statement about illegality of course. I'm only saying this because some person will get uppity and misread it.
I'm sure that AXA hasn't given their competitors permission to use their trademark to sell their own goods!
Of course, if AXA are suing Google to stop their own resellers and insurance agents advertising that they sell AXA insurance, that would be retarded!
I'm not a lawyer.
... I don't see why so many people get copyright and trademarks mixed up, or think they are the same thing.
... not one that I would agree with AXA's suing about anyway.
> Its not a dilution of copyright.
There is no such thing as "dilution of copyright"
What is hard for you to understand about the fact that it is illegal to use another companies' trademarked name to sell your own goods?
The Google Adword links had "AXA" as the title! That is the problem. If they were "Bob's Financial Services" there wouldn't be a problem I'm sure
Well I was referring to the links on the right, I'm sure that the link to axa.co.uk isn't a problem.
Maybe the problem is that Adword space is so limited. Still, that is no excuse to misuse the trademark. The titles aren't "Get AXA insurance here", they are "AXA", etc. "Get links to companies selling AXA insurance" is a bit far fetched isn't it?
Also I'm sure that AXA are being heavy handed here, unless they've asked Google to remove the adwords before and nothing was done.
Sorry, I saw "AXA Car Insurance" ... that is pretty misleading if that isn't AXA's Car Insurance website isn't it?
... oh wait, that doesn't get searched for often on Google.
Am I meant to magically know what each site is before going there?
> Discountedorfree.com is a clearinghouse of low-cost crap, they've got
> the keyword because companies who advertise there resell AXA insurance.
And this gives them what right exactly to use the trademark? Why not say "Low Cost Crap"
Nope, this is a simple case of trademark dilution, not about competition. Well, the bit about "AXA" is, I'm dubious about the other term which looks like generic English.
AXA's trademark is being used on Google without their permission, in a field related to their own - financial services. Quite clearly this is misuse of a trademark.
AXA might be going about this the wrong way, but what if they asked Google to remove them and they didn't? Going to court is the ONLY thing that AXA can do - they have to protect their trademark or they could lose it.
Google have only themselves to blame if they had prior warning of this issue. Hopefully this will make them think twice about their planned "Misuse other companies' trademarks for your own good" scheme as well.
This isn't "Free Advertising" for AXA at all. It is cheap, illgotten advertising for a gaggle of small fry companies and competitors who are misusing it.
Want a crappy analogy? You run a crappy double glazing company called "Bob's Glazing". You get very few customers, but a local competitor "MegaGlaze 3000" gets tonnes (for whatever reason). You decide to place an ad in Yellow Pages saying "MegaGlaze 3000", with your own phone number, in order to use their good name to get business for yourself.
Well that is what this case is about, other companies gaining from AXA's trademark.
I'm sure the logic goes like this:
Google sells adverts to company misusing trademark, hence Google also gains from the misuse of the trademark.
From reading other posts (the informed ones) in this thread, it looks like Google had better get its act together pretty darned quickly regarding this issue, they can't bury it and hope it will go away.
I think that AXA are suing the wrong people, but not that they are suing wrongly.
X A. png
> IMO you don't have rights to people not using your name. I've seen
> plenty of comparison adverts in the UK for cars, and that's perfectly
> legal.
Your opinion is not the law's opinion. This is one of those things that is always good to remember in life.
Comparison adverts are legal.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/deeppurple/GoogleA
clearly shows non-comparison adverts using AXA's trademark illegally and confusingly.
> No, AXA
> can't sue anyone for using their name,
Yes they can, it is their frickin' trademark!
> but they may be able to sue
> google for harboring malicious attempts to subvert the copyright.
TRADEMARK!
Are your adwords basically "We're better than XYZ because ..." (legal), or "XYZ XYZ XYZ" (illegal).
And the former is only legal in countries where comparitive advertising is legal too.
For example, if I ran a brewery "A", and my adword used brewery B's name in a non-comparative sense, that would be illegal, it would be misuse of a trademark (assuming B had trademarked their name, of course!), misleading to the consumer and a lot lot more. In the UK you'd probably end up being kicked about by Trading Standards for a while aside from any legal action made by B against you.
Competition is not about using your competitors' name to boost yourself. It is about competing.
Here's the UK Google Page, snapshotted for your pleasure:
X A. png
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/deeppurple/GoogleA
Showing non-AXA sites using the AXA trademark illegally. I don't know if Google are registered in the UK though which might explain why Google France is getting sued.
Google aren't the ones to sue. They are the ones to subpoena to get the advertisers' information, and then sue the advertisers for misuse of a trademark.
I'm sure that Linus could ask Google to remove that link at any point for misusing his trademark on Linux.
Quite clearly Microsoft must have set up a Google adword that looks for "Linux" in a search.
This is the only problem. AXA should have asked Google to remove the offending adword for infringing on their trademark, and that would have been that. Unless Google declined of course, in which case AXA have no choice but to sue if they wish to keep their trademark. Google really should have consulted their lawyers about this issue.
I haven't used Adwords in a while, I don't know if Google's terms and conditions limit what advertisers can use for adword searches.
Actually, I'll take emacs over death. Not sure about vi though!
(I recognise the power of vi however, but I'd have to take the damned vitutorial 10 times before I remembered all the shortcuts. That, or make a note of them on paper. Emacs can be configured nicely, but is way to complex for what most people use it for.)
Why do I like pico/nano? Because for most tasks it is ideal and works as expected and simply. I'm sure that Joe will be good for many people as well.
And for editors in X? As long as they give me the option to change the font to fixed-7x13 I'm happy. Although kate is a pretty good editor, and it has a couple of nice features that make me use it for certain work related tasks - namely order processing (use integrated terminal to run GPG to decrypt GPG encrypted customer payments, it is mainly the reduced window clutter and all-in-one functionality that make me use it).
I see a lot of posts here wittering on about how they'd never stoop to join a union and that they are clever enough to sort this out on their own, then bitching about the 60 hour week they do without compensation.
... whilst the "stupid" unionised workers in other industries are out drinking, getting the women (or men, if you bend that way / are female) and having fun.
You're inside waiting for a compile, or helping someone click an icon, half dead
Tell me again who the clever people are?
The trackpad on the Powerbook (and presumably the iBook) can be used to simulate 2 mouse buttons and two wheels in addition to standard movement by the addition of a third party driver. All the things are configurable as well.
It is called Sidetrack. It is free. It should be an option in the OS but Apple are odd when it comes to such things.
Yes, WinUAE and Fellow are Amiga emulators for the PC (and Linux).
Or you can get everything legally from Cloanto Software for $60 or so, in the new Amiga Forever 6.0 software package that includes lots of software, the latest 68k OS version (3.9), and so on.
Anyone thinking of moderating the parent troll up please be aware that Hyperion have a good relationship with the FSF, have done plenty of work with GPLd software before and have always complied with it 100%.
In addition, their modifications to GCC are already submitted to the main branch and will be included in the next release candidate.
Hardly "GPL Infringement", more like making full use of a resource in a legal and honourable manner, much in the same way that Apple use GCC as well.
Sadly those are quite old screenshots, although the fonts are anti-aliased in them.
The current look is a lot better and professional. Clean but not ugly, and it doesn't distract you like some other operating systems.
Anyway, rounded edges are *so* 2001.
> "Support Linux, get sued!"
They're not supporting Linux. They're using Linux for their own benefit.