Is there really anything you can do with a high level language that you can't do in assembly? Everythiing is syntactic sugar at some level. Although I agree that requiring operator overload is going a little far.
Couldn't set up one box to handle dynamic connections, and then put this behind it? It would be extreme, but this is an extreme technique for the extremely paranoid.
But what is it about ecommerce which means your plant has to be near your headquarters? Assuming your headquarters are in Silicon Valley why would you put a production plant in an area where real estate and labor costs were so high? It seems it is because of the location that both workers and managers have to go to extremes.
That6's the whole point, gzip can't compress a gz file anymore, because it is real. An algorithm which could compress any random data could compress anything, even it own output.
Maybe a Voodoo 3 is exagerated, but his point was that availible 3d games for linux are old, so a TNT say would be enough. It's not like you can run Medal of Honor on linux, so why buy the horse power to do it?
The GPL itself prevents a destructive form a freeloading, taking code and not releasing changes.In this sense at least Open Source covered by the GPL does not allow freeloaders.
Freeloaders in a P2P network do hurt everyone. Every freeloader is potentially downloading something from me, while not offering me any content. This directly uses my bandwidth without giving me any benefit.
This is as another poster pointed out a Mandrake bug. I am running Mandrake 8.1 right now. It has been a while since I fixd the problem, but basically the default version of courier is awful. Try some other versions (maybe load MS tru-type fonts) or try Arial. I don't remember having problems with the changes not sticking though.
No one said it was difficult, its just not fun (for most people). It is especially not fun, ususally, for the very people best qualified to write it, the people who wrote the program, no one knows it better. Unfortunately, most coders aa) don't like wrting documentation and/or b) are not good at wrting it at a level appropriate for beginners.
It comes back to the revelation seen here on/. that explaining something to a newbie is harder the more of a guru you are.
I think what really may be needed is for an organization, such as this one, to raise donations to hire writers to fill in the gaps in open documentation. We all know some projects are documented well others poorly, all of them could use help making the documentation make sense to newbies. This just isn't something that enough people do out of the good of their hearts. Maybe this would be a path to getting quality documentation.
One thing I never understood was the dislike of perl's OO. Sure it is a kludge, but it seems like a pretty good one. I mean I can import CGI and DBI and create objects and be happy what is so bad about that?
It sounds like you are trying to solve a much larger problem than the module is. I think the module is on the level of intro to physics, where you so a bunch of calculations, cancel out your units and get the units of your answer, as in velocity + accel.*time equlas another velocity. I don't see the problem here.
As per you comments on coding style. C would b unreadable if you took out line breaks and used bad variable names. Use a language which enforces format? You still variable name problems, and some people hate programs breaking because of bad indentation.
Not to mention that all languages have features which yeild hard to understand code IF over used, i.e. templates+overloading in C++, automagical variables in perl, lambda notation in a functional language(Haskell), pointers in C, etc. I'd pick one from Java but I haven't programed in it enough to know, but I refuse to believe it is impossible to write obfuscated code in any language.
First off, 100 lines is rediculously small. I'll give some credence to the point that perl programs over 500 lines are hard to understand, if you are undisciplined. Also, python is scripted, should we discount that right of the bat as well? What is inherent in scripted languages that make them unsuitable for larger projects?
I think it is pretty obvious from the context that this is VERY obfuscated perl which no one should be able to understand without intense study and usually reformatting. Check out the obfuscated C contest to see how you can do the same thing in C, or in any language. As for PHP, I am just starting to use it, but it seems like a toy to me, I'd rather use embedded perl.
I haven't used Opera in a while(about a year) so I won't comment except on the fact that its not free if you don't want ads. I use Mozilla on a daily basis ( I boot windows only when I have to ), and although it has great potential, and in many areas is more featureful and powerful, it still annoys me that it is not as snappy as IE. I'm not even talking about load time, just page load and render time itself. It still seems to lag in perceived speed, at least with.9.4, maybe.9.6 is faster.
This is rediculous. How would it be good for the consumer to remove the best web browser from the market? ( I think it it is fair claim that IE is the best, even though it is not cross platform) Let's not forget that the whole point of anti-trust laws are to protect consumers from big bad companies selling inferior prodeucts for high proces, not giving out good products for free. I find the whole notion that we should punish MS for 20 of success in the software world rediculous. Yes we should curb some of their business practices, BUT I think it is undeniable that they have put out good products such as IE, Office and their hardware.
Of course it would be stupid to deny that MS software has flaws, but in most cases I believe the better product won, the MS product.
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What if it used to be a crack house, but the neighborhood cleaned up and was safe?
Is there really anything you can do with a high level language that you can't do in assembly? Everythiing is syntactic sugar at some level. Although I agree that requiring operator overload is going a little far.
Couldn't set up one box to handle dynamic connections, and then put this behind it? It would be extreme, but this is an extreme technique for the extremely paranoid.
If there are people lining up to work 20 hours a day at 8$and hour then so be it.
But what is it about ecommerce which means your plant has to be near your headquarters? Assuming your headquarters are in Silicon Valley why would you put a production plant in an area where real estate and labor costs were so high? It seems it is because of the location that both workers and managers have to go to extremes.
"Most college students don't need to play games"
I think that depends on which student you ask...
That6's the whole point, gzip can't compress a gz file anymore, because it is real. An algorithm which could compress any random data could compress anything, even it own output.
Maybe a Voodoo 3 is exagerated, but his point was that availible 3d games for linux are old, so a TNT say would be enough. It's not like you can run Medal of Honor on linux, so why buy the horse power to do it?
The GPL itself prevents a destructive form a freeloading, taking code and not releasing changes.In this sense at least Open Source covered by the GPL does not allow freeloaders.
Freeloaders in a P2P network do hurt everyone. Every freeloader is potentially downloading something from me, while not offering me any content. This directly uses my bandwidth without giving me any benefit.
That must be the fastest crash of MySQL I'v seen. Yah slashdot, making articles inaccessible for 5 years!!
This is as another poster pointed out a Mandrake bug. I am running Mandrake 8.1 right now. It has been a while since I fixd the problem, but basically the default version of courier is awful. Try some other versions (maybe load MS tru-type fonts) or try Arial. I don't remember having problems with the changes not sticking though.
No one said it was difficult, its just not fun (for most people). It is especially not fun, ususally, for the very people best qualified to write it, the people who wrote the program, no one knows it better. Unfortunately, most coders aa) don't like wrting documentation and/or b) are not good at wrting it at a level appropriate for beginners.
/. that explaining something to a newbie is harder the more of a guru you are.
It comes back to the revelation seen here on
I think what really may be needed is for an organization, such as this one, to raise donations to hire writers to fill in the gaps in open documentation. We all know some projects are documented well others poorly, all of them could use help making the documentation make sense to newbies. This just isn't something that enough people do out of the good of their hearts. Maybe this would be a path to getting quality documentation.
One thing I never understood was the dislike of perl's OO. Sure it is a kludge, but it seems like a pretty good one. I mean I can import CGI and DBI and create objects and be happy what is so bad about that?
This is a good point. I think the flexibility of perl gives the coder the ability to write code that reads like english, very easy to understand.
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Of course it also give the prgrammer the ability to write in klingon, which can be harder to understand for some people.
It sounds like you are trying to solve a much larger problem than the module is. I think the module is on the level of intro to physics, where you so a bunch of calculations, cancel out your units and get the units of your answer, as in velocity + accel.*time equlas another velocity. I don't see the problem here.
As per you comments on coding style. C would b unreadable if you took out line breaks and used bad variable names. Use a language which enforces format? You still variable name problems, and some people hate programs breaking because of bad indentation.
Not to mention that all languages have features which yeild hard to understand code IF over used, i.e. templates+overloading in C++, automagical variables in perl, lambda notation in a functional language(Haskell), pointers in C, etc. I'd pick one from Java but I haven't programed in it enough to know, but I refuse to believe it is impossible to write obfuscated code in any language.
First off, 100 lines is rediculously small. I'll give some credence to the point that perl programs over 500 lines are hard to understand, if you are undisciplined. Also, python is scripted, should we discount that right of the bat as well? What is inherent in scripted languages that make them unsuitable for larger projects?
I think it is pretty obvious from the context that this is VERY obfuscated perl which no one should be able to understand without intense study and usually reformatting. Check out the obfuscated C contest to see how you can do the same thing in C, or in any language. As for PHP, I am just starting to use it, but it seems like a toy to me, I'd rather use embedded perl.
I haven't used Opera in a while(about a year) so I won't comment except on the fact that its not free if you don't want ads. I use Mozilla on a daily basis ( I boot windows only when I have to ), and although it has great potential, and in many areas is more featureful and powerful, it still annoys me that it is not as snappy as IE. I'm not even talking about load time, just page load and render time itself. It still seems to lag in perceived speed, at least with .9.4, maybe .9.6 is faster.
Tagert! Where's froggy?
Of course it would be stupid to deny that MS software has flaws, but in most cases I believe the better product won, the MS product.
So much for karma...
What's wrong with a site that still looks the same? It is functional, and I for one would be pissed if I had to re-learn the way the site worked.