Well to be fair, the Intel CPU might be old in name but the architecture and design of modern CPUs is very different from the ones at the start. The only thing that is the same is the basic instruction set which are just specification of what the CPU should do, not how. The specification for a rocket engine didn't change either (i.e. output a lot of thrust) but the inner workings design can probably be improved.
Not really. Think about internal combustion engines. The same basic principles are used in modern ones as were in the originals. It's the same with microprocessors. Modern CPU's use the same basic principles (flipping bits around, logic gates, etc.) as did the originals. They just do it far faster, more efficiently, and on a more massive scale.
You're probably thinking about how they work in terms of internal microcode. Yes it is very, very different than it used to be and is abstracted by a higher level instructions set, but the same basic principles still apply.
I know you're trolling, but some people who read your inane ranting might not know that Bill Gates has given away almost half his net work since 2007. In fact, the amount he's donated is more than the 8th richest man in the world (I think that's the number, Google it) is worth in total.
Then read and learn. It's a common term and a good idea to use the methodology in any encryption implementation. It actually refers more to how the passwords are handled and encrypted than the actual encryption itself.
So the contribution of nuclear weapons research to atmospheric understanding is the justification for billions (trillions?) of dollars spent on nuclear weapons stockpiles and the entire Cold War fiasco? Let's trot out nuclear medicine as the next justification or, gasp, nuclear power. Humanity has been on the brink of extinction through nuclear war for fifty years. If those benificent aliens are going to save us they had better hurry...
I don't think anyone said it 'justified' it. Think of the old adage of making lemonade when life hands you lemons and maybe you'll actually get the point.
Most websites that look awesome have almost no content which is hidden on several pages with lots of ads in between. No thx like it simple.
Exactly. I wouldn't even call it ugly; I'd call it utilitarian. That is a good thing for a tool used to search for knowledge. It also makes it much more readily available to minimalistic and text only browsers without much extra work on the part of the maintainers.
The average soldier simply has far more self-discipline and self-respect than the average American.
I'm going to assume you got that idea from John Wayne movies and Sgt. Rock comic books, and not my home town after the bars close.
Idiot.
I've worked with many men and women in uniform and the vast majority has great self-discipline and self-respect. You don't have to resort to ad hominems just because your limited anecdotal evidence disagrees with another poster, so grow the fuck up.
I've worked in many shops, including my current place of employment where the 'old folks' (i.e. 40+) like myself (I'm 45) put as much or even more effort into learning new technologies. I'm so happy to have given up management to go back to my oringinal role in the field as an engineer. These days it's mostly networking and security I work on. We are constantly drinking from the 'firehose' as we call it in order to stay current and hopefully a step ahead of our competition. We are a fairly unique shop though. Around 50 employees yet we count Fortune 100 and even Fortune 10 companies as among our many clients. My fellow enginners are the smartest bunch of people I've worked with in my 20+ years in IT and we are all, regardless of age (ranges from 22ish to 50ish) constantly filling our heads with new info. That is one of the reasons we're so successful, and it's great fun. As a plus, the pay is about as good as when I was at my peak in my management days (the 'dark decade' as I refer to it.).
You're either spreading FUD on purpose or you just botched things up. In all the the hundreds of installs I've seen and the handful I've done, Win 7 works quite well and is one of the most stable Windows versions since W2K.
I too prefer a discrete, separate phone. That's why I bought an Asus Transformer Prime. It doesn't have 3G/4G so it isn't tied to any carrier and the keyboard dock was made to match it along with dedicated Android keys and an extra battery. It's the best of both worlds from a tablet/laptop standpoint. The rare times I'm not near WiFi I use a portable hotspot which I use anyways so I can get connected on my laptop if I need to bring out the big guns for a work issue. Most of the time when I'm on the road said laptop, which is a huge beast, can stay in the bag because I get all my needs met by the tablet.
Yep. It's as I thought. Troll. I never said I need wifi, I said I expected it as a feature of any OS that costs money. I use it on the old G4 out of convenience. Most of my boxen are connected via gig-ethernet. A very subtle troll though, so hats off to you for that.
Your attempt at using windows from bygone years as an example was weak though. This is 2012. Any OS that costs money should have wifi support. If it is beta that's fine. They shouldn't be charging for it then.
"That can't even do wireless" is a dubious way of assessing its worth.
If most PPC systems still in use are desktops with no WiFi, it might simply not be worth porting a wireless stack for the few laptops or wireless-connected desktops that might buy it, but the rest of the system might be rock-solid. Or it might not -- lack of WiFi doesn't really say anything about it.
Bullshit. It says it isn't ready to be sold for money. There is nothing dubious about that assessment. It means it is not complete and should not cost anything if they want to use people as beta testers. Hell, I have an old G4 tower that I connect via wireless. I'll bet a lot of people do the same. You're either astroturfing for them or just trolling.
I'll agree with this. When I work for a manager that is actually skilled in management, I can produce at least twice as much work and at noticeably higher quality than when I am working for a manager that is bad at their job. The sad part is that people actually skilled at management are far and few between.
Sad but true. I was very successful in my management endeavors but I am very happy to have found a position that pays just as well but lets me be mostly technical. I still do some project management and I'm often put in leadership roles on a project basis, but really doing the job of a manager well takes far more effort and is far less fun. A good manager should be a facilitator. In many regards I thought of myself as working for my staff rather than them working for me. It's a very taxing job and there is very little reward other than on the monetary side and the good feelings one gets from mentoring, developing staff, and helping them overcome obstacles.
You do realise this exact same shit was said about Japan years ago. All they do is copy... not innovate...
China is copying to catch up. Once they catch up they will go shooting past - and all the MBAs, financial instruments and lawyers that the US has wanked away its educational estasblishments and brainpower on producing won't be worth a piss in a wind storm.
I can't find a link to any web based version but there was an interesting story on NPR about two months ago that I heard while driving home from a business trip. It went into how Chinese youth are being raised and trained in a fashion where they do exactly what the GP stated. They do not learn how to innovate, they learn how to copy and be good cogs in the machine. Now, that might change in the future but it is ingrained in their culture at the moment. You will not see much innovation out of China anytime soon. That is not meant to be disparaging; it's just a simple fact.
They are taking advantage of you. Speaking as someone who went from technical to management (operations and projects) then back to an engineering role, I can tell you that if you do the job well you should be making more as a manager. That isn't a popular opinion around here but it is true. Note that I said if you can do the job well. Too many people get thrust into management roles who do not have the talents or training to do them justice. Properly executing a management role will take more effort and more hours than most technical staff ever spend on their jobs.
You should be getting at least a 10% bump in pay. They are playing you.
I find it fascinating that theories developed in the first half of the last century continue to stand up to observation. This fits the predictions of general relativity, and that is almost as exciting as if they discovered something that totally blew away the predictions. The latter would mean we go back to the cutting board, but this is, as I said, almost as exciting. It makes me wonder how much of the 'missing mass' that we lump into the dark matter bucket is actually contained in bodies like this; bodies so massive that we can barely fathom their 'size'.
I was fortunate enough to have a company sponsor me on a H1B. It took me six years of waiting and thousands of dollars in lawyer's fees to adjust my status, i.e. go from H1B to Green Card. It's not that easy. The people on the Mayflower would be turned back if they made that trip today.
I was with you until your hyperbolic Mayflower comment. Half of them died before the first winter was over, and the second half of the trip across the sea was in a relatively small ship fighting gales and nasty seas. You had it easy.
Well put. What he and the committee should be doing is putting out an RFP to all the local telcos/ISPs. If they don't know enough to decide on the parameters (bandwidth, etc.) then they should hire someone competent to help them develop the specifications and write the request.
I've worked for several Fortune 500 companies. Support has nothing to do with the decision: Exclusionary contracts do. Microsoft offers huge discounts to businesses that agree not to use a competitor's product. They also regularily check for compliance and there are large fines for any company caught using open source software.
I have been an employee/contractor at many Fortune 500 companies, and have never seen anything even hinting at a contract with Microsoft involving "large fines for any company caught using open source software". Care to provide any proof of Microsoft contract with any F500 consumer of software that prohibits said F500 from running open source software?
YHBT YHL HAND.
Seriously though, the poster you're responding to is full of shit. I've been in IT for 25 years and have worked with everything from SMB's to Fortune 10's and have never seen any such thing.
It would be nice if people could state their opinions without resorting to lies and trolling.
And you sound like a petulant child. What this whole thread seems to miss is those 'outdated' icons have taken on new meanings, much like language does over time. Children may have never seen a floppy drive but they know what the icon means and does.
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Well to be fair, the Intel CPU might be old in name but the architecture and design of modern CPUs is very different from the ones at the start. The only thing that is the same is the basic instruction set which are just specification of what the CPU should do, not how. The specification for a rocket engine didn't change either (i.e. output a lot of thrust) but the inner workings design can probably be improved.
Not really. Think about internal combustion engines. The same basic principles are used in modern ones as were in the originals. It's the same with microprocessors. Modern CPU's use the same basic principles (flipping bits around, logic gates, etc.) as did the originals. They just do it far faster, more efficiently, and on a more massive scale.
You're probably thinking about how they work in terms of internal microcode. Yes it is very, very different than it used to be and is abstracted by a higher level instructions set, but the same basic principles still apply.
I know you're trolling, but some people who read your inane ranting might not know that Bill Gates has given away almost half his net work since 2007. In fact, the amount he's donated is more than the 8th richest man in the world (I think that's the number, Google it) is worth in total.
THAT is how it should work.
Salt the encryption? Never heard of that.
Then read and learn. It's a common term and a good idea to use the methodology in any encryption implementation. It actually refers more to how the passwords are handled and encrypted than the actual encryption itself.
So the contribution of nuclear weapons research to atmospheric understanding is the justification for billions (trillions?) of dollars spent on nuclear weapons stockpiles and the entire Cold War fiasco? Let's trot out nuclear medicine as the next justification or, gasp, nuclear power. Humanity has been on the brink of extinction through nuclear war for fifty years. If those benificent aliens are going to save us they had better hurry...
I don't think anyone said it 'justified' it. Think of the old adage of making lemonade when life hands you lemons and maybe you'll actually get the point.
Most websites that look awesome have almost no content which is hidden on several pages with lots of ads in between. No thx like it simple.
Exactly. I wouldn't even call it ugly; I'd call it utilitarian. That is a good thing for a tool used to search for knowledge. It also makes it much more readily available to minimalistic and text only browsers without much extra work on the part of the maintainers.
Look at the username you replied to...'Mindcontrolled'...and then the statement you replied to makes sense in the context of the poster's mentality.
The average soldier simply has far more self-discipline and self-respect than the average American.
I'm going to assume you got that idea from John Wayne movies and Sgt. Rock comic books, and not my home town after the bars close.
Idiot.
I've worked with many men and women in uniform and the vast majority has great self-discipline and self-respect. You don't have to resort to ad hominems just because your limited anecdotal evidence disagrees with another poster, so grow the fuck up.
I've worked in many shops, including my current place of employment where the 'old folks' (i.e. 40+) like myself (I'm 45) put as much or even more effort into learning new technologies. I'm so happy to have given up management to go back to my oringinal role in the field as an engineer. These days it's mostly networking and security I work on. We are constantly drinking from the 'firehose' as we call it in order to stay current and hopefully a step ahead of our competition. We are a fairly unique shop though. Around 50 employees yet we count Fortune 100 and even Fortune 10 companies as among our many clients. My fellow enginners are the smartest bunch of people I've worked with in my 20+ years in IT and we are all, regardless of age (ranges from 22ish to 50ish) constantly filling our heads with new info. That is one of the reasons we're so successful, and it's great fun. As a plus, the pay is about as good as when I was at my peak in my management days (the 'dark decade' as I refer to it.).
You're either spreading FUD on purpose or you just botched things up. In all the the hundreds of installs I've seen and the handful I've done, Win 7 works quite well and is one of the most stable Windows versions since W2K.
I too prefer a discrete, separate phone. That's why I bought an Asus Transformer Prime. It doesn't have 3G/4G so it isn't tied to any carrier and the keyboard dock was made to match it along with dedicated Android keys and an extra battery. It's the best of both worlds from a tablet/laptop standpoint. The rare times I'm not near WiFi I use a portable hotspot which I use anyways so I can get connected on my laptop if I need to bring out the big guns for a work issue. Most of the time when I'm on the road said laptop, which is a huge beast, can stay in the bag because I get all my needs met by the tablet.
Yep. It's as I thought. Troll. I never said I need wifi, I said I expected it as a feature of any OS that costs money. I use it on the old G4 out of convenience. Most of my boxen are connected via gig-ethernet. A very subtle troll though, so hats off to you for that.
Your attempt at using windows from bygone years as an example was weak though. This is 2012. Any OS that costs money should have wifi support. If it is beta that's fine. They shouldn't be charging for it then.
"That can't even do wireless" is a dubious way of assessing its worth.
If most PPC systems still in use are desktops with no WiFi, it might simply not be worth porting a wireless stack for the few laptops or wireless-connected desktops that might buy it, but the rest of the system might be rock-solid. Or it might not -- lack of WiFi doesn't really say anything about it.
Bullshit. It says it isn't ready to be sold for money. There is nothing dubious about that assessment. It means it is not complete and should not cost anything if they want to use people as beta testers. Hell, I have an old G4 tower that I connect via wireless. I'll bet a lot of people do the same. You're either astroturfing for them or just trolling.
I'll agree with this. When I work for a manager that is actually skilled in management, I can produce at least twice as much work and at noticeably higher quality than when I am working for a manager that is bad at their job. The sad part is that people actually skilled at management are far and few between.
Sad but true. I was very successful in my management endeavors but I am very happy to have found a position that pays just as well but lets me be mostly technical. I still do some project management and I'm often put in leadership roles on a project basis, but really doing the job of a manager well takes far more effort and is far less fun. A good manager should be a facilitator. In many regards I thought of myself as working for my staff rather than them working for me. It's a very taxing job and there is very little reward other than on the monetary side and the good feelings one gets from mentoring, developing staff, and helping them overcome obstacles.
You do realise this exact same shit was said about Japan years ago. All they do is copy... not innovate...
China is copying to catch up. Once they catch up they will go shooting past - and all the MBAs, financial instruments and lawyers that the US has wanked away its educational estasblishments and brainpower on producing won't be worth a piss in a wind storm.
I can't find a link to any web based version but there was an interesting story on NPR about two months ago that I heard while driving home from a business trip. It went into how Chinese youth are being raised and trained in a fashion where they do exactly what the GP stated. They do not learn how to innovate, they learn how to copy and be good cogs in the machine. Now, that might change in the future but it is ingrained in their culture at the moment. You will not see much innovation out of China anytime soon. That is not meant to be disparaging; it's just a simple fact.
They are taking advantage of you. Speaking as someone who went from technical to management (operations and projects) then back to an engineering role, I can tell you that if you do the job well you should be making more as a manager. That isn't a popular opinion around here but it is true. Note that I said if you can do the job well. Too many people get thrust into management roles who do not have the talents or training to do them justice. Properly executing a management role will take more effort and more hours than most technical staff ever spend on their jobs.
You should be getting at least a 10% bump in pay. They are playing you.
I find it fascinating that theories developed in the first half of the last century continue to stand up to observation. This fits the predictions of general relativity, and that is almost as exciting as if they discovered something that totally blew away the predictions. The latter would mean we go back to the cutting board, but this is, as I said, almost as exciting. It makes me wonder how much of the 'missing mass' that we lump into the dark matter bucket is actually contained in bodies like this; bodies so massive that we can barely fathom their 'size'.
I was fortunate enough to have a company sponsor me on a H1B. It took me six years of waiting and thousands of dollars in lawyer's fees to adjust my status, i.e. go from H1B to Green Card. It's not that easy. The people on the Mayflower would be turned back if they made that trip today.
I was with you until your hyperbolic Mayflower comment. Half of them died before the first winter was over, and the second half of the trip across the sea was in a relatively small ship fighting gales and nasty seas. You had it easy.
Well put. What he and the committee should be doing is putting out an RFP to all the local telcos/ISPs. If they don't know enough to decide on the parameters (bandwidth, etc.) then they should hire someone competent to help them develop the specifications and write the request.
Exactly. The people asserting otherwise are the ones who are either delusional or rather just not understanding what having high standards means.
Bullshit. One can have high standards and still have a positive outlook on life.
to go back to his basement. I know the feeling.
to go back to his Mom's basement. I know the feeling.
There, fixed it for you.
Intent.
Prove it. Seriously. You wouldn't be able to.
I've worked for several Fortune 500 companies. Support has nothing to do with the decision: Exclusionary contracts do. Microsoft offers huge discounts to businesses that agree not to use a competitor's product. They also regularily check for compliance and there are large fines for any company caught using open source software.
I have been an employee/contractor at many Fortune 500 companies, and have never seen anything even hinting at a contract with Microsoft involving "large fines for any company caught using open source software". Care to provide any proof of Microsoft contract with any F500 consumer of software that prohibits said F500 from running open source software?
YHBT YHL HAND.
Seriously though, the poster you're responding to is full of shit. I've been in IT for 25 years and have worked with everything from SMB's to Fortune 10's and have never seen any such thing.
It would be nice if people could state their opinions without resorting to lies and trolling.
And you sound like a petulant child. What this whole thread seems to miss is those 'outdated' icons have taken on new meanings, much like language does over time. Children may have never seen a floppy drive but they know what the icon means and does.
Yeah you're right, obviously, because we've been nuked so many times. Oh, we haven't?