yeah that would be nifty. ive already gone through and snagged all the keys posted in this thread. all we need is someone known to both "server" nodes to connect to both and remain connected for a bit. once that happens and people keep connecting the pub keys should really start flying
as a note: my server isnt on the speediest of connections but that shouldnt be much of an issue the way WASTE is designed.
yeah, unless the "speed" number you specify is greater than 64 the "node" will not act as a full peer on the network (aka itll connect to other nodes but wont listen for connections to itself and therefore cannot route traffic). the config variables for this are conspeed (>64), listen (non-zero, defaults to 1), port (non-zero, defaults to 1337)
try removing the networkname=somenetname from both machines. i doubt its the problem but hey might be.
barring the above suggestion working, all i can do is discuss my setup:
2 windows clients, one using 1536 key length, other using 2048. both on the same subnet. linux server, using 2048 length key and on same subnet as the client machines (this machine also serves as the NAT box aka gateway for my intranet). before i even dicked with the linux server i made sure i could get WASTE to work with the 2 windows clients. if waste CAN work across a NAT'd firewall (anecdotal evidence anyone?) then barring some forgotten pixie dust dropped in my setup i don't know what the problem is (from my reading of your description you are attempting to connect your client which is behind a firewall to your server, correct?)
as far as the docs claiming it should work seemelessy even if some nodes are behind firewalls, i think that is true if and only if WASTE nodes exist at the boundaries (aka firewalls) of the various subnets you wish to bridge.
if you mean into the server you need to append it to the default.pr3 file. if you mean the client then you save a key into a text file and save it somewhere handy, open up your waste client click File->Preferences and then Public Keys on the left hand menu then Add. pick the file with the key and you are done
I was away from my computer for an hour, but beforte I left and now after I am back I am noticing much "Could not connect to host: failed connect!" messages in the debug output. I've noticed the waste software attempts to setup 2 sockets per connection (client -> server then server -> client) which isn't going to work too well if you're behind a firewall with unidirectional translation (assuming NAT here).
anyone else having the same sort of issues? people trying to connected to me, speak up =)
delete the default.pr0 and try running the server again. if it doesn't find this file it is supposed to create it (did for me) albeit quite minimaly. something that ought to help, is that after your server generates its default.pr0 file, kill it and add nick=<your server name>, debuglog=1 entries and try again.
i'll import your key into the server momentarily. the aolution is to remove the whitespaces (in the actual hex part of the key) inserted by slashdot *boggle*
yeah, the root of this is a #define for socklen_t in the non-win32 code (which is already typedef'd in system headers). my solution was to put a #ifdef POSIX around the define.
Not hacker-ish in any way but thought provoking and interesting to read (WARNING: Wolfe is a Catholic and religion plays an over-arching role in many of his characters' lives BUT I am also an athiest and still found much, much pleasure in the reading.)
Wolfe has written 3 series of books known as "The Book of the New Sun". "The Book of the Long Sun", and "The Book of the Short Sun". Each of which is a collection af books and not necessarily a single book in itself (though I do own a limited edition of the New Sun stuff in a single bound hard-cover). Given the names one might assume there was a definite chronology to them--which is correct, in when they were written and when they take place. I't isn't necessary to read them in the order of New -> Long -> Short, however, if you can I do suggest it.
After reading these books I have begun to devour anything that I can find written by Wolfe; his imaginings are simply to interesting for me to not take notice of.
you're a dipshit. do you think only obese cats manage to land on their feet? sure, do the equations and their center of gravity is whats pulling them down, but would you tell me if you dropped a cat from 6 feet that the drag on the rest of its body created enough rotation to land it on it's feet? absurd! what your failing to see here is that cats have an innate sense of their bodies combined with an extremely flexible spine to give them the ability to flex their muscles, throw their legs and twist around their center of gravity to get their legs facing in the right direction so they can meet the ground butter-side down. btw, nice troll.
Excellent equivocation! Truly. So much so, in fact, that I think you're closer to the mark than you realize. The point-and-click-GUI is truly an extension of the simpleton's point-and-grunt modus operandi, which is why so many of us detest it--not that GUI's can't be useful, just that to those who know, there are usually more efficient ways of getting things done.
I realize you were using that phrase ("I believe") part-and-parcel to a cop-out of supporting the statement but it makes what you said no more worthwhile (a.k.a. a valuable contribution to the discussion). Instead of what you "believe" RMS means how about supplying us with a quote (and a link) and then spin your opinion around it?
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You are mistaken. You seem to have missed the "(at your option)" that sits smack dab infront of the "or any later version" phrase which means the FSF by default has no power over a GPL'd work unless the FSF owns the copyright to it. What this also means is that YOU have the choice of which license you'd prefer to use (when using someone else's code!) and therefore your freedoms cannot be curtailed unless you allow it.
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wtf is an open source crunchy?
p.s. fuck you slashdot by requiring me to wait 20 seconds! (this is the third goddamn time i wrote this post)
yeah that would be nifty. ive already gone through and snagged all the keys posted in this thread. all we need is someone known to both "server" nodes to connect to both and remain connected for a bit. once that happens and people keep connecting the pub keys should really start flying
as a note: my server isnt on the speediest of connections but that shouldnt be much of an issue the way WASTE is designed.
actually i've read about this before, and like you, myself and many others are looking forward to this feature.
yeah, unless the "speed" number you specify is greater than 64 the "node" will not act as a full peer on the network (aka itll connect to other nodes but wont listen for connections to itself and therefore cannot route traffic). the config variables for this are conspeed (>64), listen (non-zero, defaults to 1), port (non-zero, defaults to 1337)
you need to apply the patch to Makefile.posix mentioned here.
try removing the networkname=somenetname from both machines. i doubt its the problem but hey might be.
barring the above suggestion working, all i can do is discuss my setup:
2 windows clients, one using 1536 key length, other using 2048. both on the same subnet.
linux server, using 2048 length key and on same subnet as the client machines (this machine also serves as the NAT box aka gateway for my intranet). before i even dicked with the linux server i made sure i could get WASTE to work with the 2 windows clients. if waste CAN work across a NAT'd firewall (anecdotal evidence anyone?) then barring some forgotten pixie dust dropped in my setup i don't know what the problem is (from my reading of your description you are attempting to connect your client which is behind a firewall to your server, correct?)
as far as the docs claiming it should work seemelessy even if some nodes are behind firewalls, i think that is true if and only if WASTE nodes exist at the boundaries (aka firewalls) of the various subnets you wish to bridge.
reading the code + trial and error = the win
if you mean into the server you need to append it to the default.pr3 file. if you mean the client then you save a key into a text file and save it somewhere handy, open up your waste client click File->Preferences and then Public Keys on the left hand menu then Add. pick the file with the key and you are done
I was away from my computer for an hour, but beforte I left and now after I am back I am noticing much "Could not connect to host: failed connect!" messages in the debug output. I've noticed the waste software attempts to setup 2 sockets per connection (client -> server then server -> client) which isn't going to work too well if you're behind a firewall with unidirectional translation (assuming NAT here).
anyone else having the same sort of issues? people trying to connected to me, speak up =)
NotBob, JediJawa, and proj: your keys have been imported.
delete the default.pr0 and try running the server again. if it doesn't find this file it is supposed to create it (did for me) albeit quite minimaly. something that ought to help, is that after your server generates its default.pr0 file, kill it and add nick=<your server name>, debuglog=1 entries and try again.
i'll import your key into the server momentarily. the aolution is to remove the whitespaces (in the actual hex part of the key) inserted by slashdot *boggle*
thanks. lame-ass filters killing what i post.
you tried make -f Makefile.posix ?
if so and it didnt work can you post the output please.
forgot to mention, public keys: if you want to access this server post your public key here and i will load it up
my server's public keyserver name is entheal.com (you may have guessed from the public key
ahh crap, i forgot to mention where the offending #define was. its in platform.h
yeah, the root of this is a #define for socklen_t in the non-win32 code (which is already typedef'd in system headers). my solution was to put a #ifdef POSIX around the define.
Not hacker-ish in any way but thought provoking and interesting to read (WARNING: Wolfe is a Catholic and religion plays an over-arching role in many of his characters' lives BUT I am also an athiest and still found much, much pleasure in the reading.)
Wolfe has written 3 series of books known as "The Book of the New Sun". "The Book of the Long Sun", and "The Book of the Short Sun". Each of which is a collection af books and not necessarily a single book in itself (though I do own a limited edition of the New Sun stuff in a single bound hard-cover). Given the names one might assume there was a definite chronology to them--which is correct, in when they were written and when they take place. I't isn't necessary to read them in the order of New -> Long -> Short, however, if you can I do suggest it.
After reading these books I have begun to devour anything that I can find written by Wolfe; his imaginings are simply to interesting for me to not take notice of.
I gather you've never had a run-in with Microsoft Consulting?
you're a dipshit. do you think only obese cats manage to land on their feet? sure, do the equations and their center of gravity is whats pulling them down, but would you tell me if you dropped a cat from 6 feet that the drag on the rest of its body created enough rotation to land it on it's feet? absurd! what your failing to see here is that cats have an innate sense of their bodies combined with an extremely flexible spine to give them the ability to flex their muscles, throw their legs and twist around their center of gravity to get their legs facing in the right direction so they can meet the ground butter-side down. btw, nice troll.
Give that Man (or Woman, as may be the case) a cigar (and a moderation point or three!)
Excellent equivocation! Truly. So much so, in fact, that I think you're closer to the mark than you realize. The point-and-click-GUI is truly an extension of the simpleton's point-and-grunt modus operandi, which is why so many of us detest it--not that GUI's can't be useful, just that to those who know, there are usually more efficient ways of getting things done.
you believe blah blah blah...
you believe blah blah blah...
I realize you were using that phrase ("I believe") part-and-parcel to a cop-out of supporting the statement but it makes what you said no more worthwhile (a.k.a. a valuable contribution to the discussion). Instead of what you "believe" RMS means how about supplying us with a quote (and a link) and then spin your opinion around it?
You are mistaken. You seem to have missed the "(at your option)" that sits smack dab infront of the "or any later version" phrase which means the FSF by default has no power over a GPL'd work unless the FSF owns the copyright to it. What this also means is that YOU have the choice of which license you'd prefer to use (when using someone else's code!) and therefore your freedoms cannot be curtailed unless you allow it.