So instead of a race to mass produce the unpatentable drug you have a race to produce the drug for the unpatentable gene. Whatever machinery you want to use to create the situation, the cost of clinical trials means drug companies need exclusivity from lab to drug store. The alternative is nationalized drug creation.. not that there's anything wrong with that, but know where your argument is going.. as the trials have become too expensive to expect drug companies to do in a race.
Who modded this up? There's a real conversation to be had here, and stupid analogies don't help.
The issue is: drugs have to go through expensive clinical trials before they are legal to be sold. Currently, drug companies pay for these trials because they are guaranteed exclusivity over the manufacturer of the drug should it turn out to be viable. Gene patents are an extension of this process, they give exclusivity to the drug company to develop the drug to target the gene. Without them, gene research is unlikely to lead to drugs to treat disease.
You can do all the research you like, it won't save lives. You can figure out how to make a drug that will cure [insert undesirable disease here] and publish the formula on the Internet.. watch as no-one will pay for the clinical trials to make the drug legal to sell.
15 years ago would be 1995. I've got a few games from that era which still work in Dosbox.. now, games from 1995 to about 2000 were all Win9x abominations that won't work.. unless you've still got an old machine lying around with win98 installed on it.. in which case I pity you.
As far as I'm aware, Robonaut 2 isn't even functional yet, let alone ready for flight testing. Did the writer just make this up?
Can anyone provide any references to show that Robonaut 2 is going to fly on STS-133? So far as I can tell, this is the only article on the web that even ties Robonaut 2 to the PMM.
Robonaut 2 will fly on STS-133? Since when?
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Uhhh.. the article provides no references.. so I don't know where Nancy Atkinson is getting this information from.
As far as I'm aware, Robonaut 2 isn't even functional yet, let alone ready for flight testing. Did the writer just make this up?
Nope.. all those figures were completely misquoted by the media. Every private astronaut who has flown through Space Adventures has paid between 30 and 35 million to Energia.. Dennis Tito (because of his previous failed attempts with Mircorp) and Greg Olson (because of his health issues) have paid between 50 and 55 million. And none of these figures include the travel to and from Star City, or the time they've had to take off work for training there - which is quite significant, when you consider that it is their sheer earning power that makes them able to afford the trip in the first place. And don't forget all the people who have paid for the preliminary training but flunked the medical.
That said, the price is coming down.. Energia is planning to increase production of Soyuz so they can have a dedicated private astronaut flight a year. Presumably when suborbital flights start up we'll see an increased interest in orbital. Competition in the form of SpaceX (and maybe others) should also have an effect.
Just like on Zero-G flights, spaceflight participants are informed of both the risks and the likely side effects of their trip before flying. They're required to sign a legally binding document which states that they understand and accept those risks. Legislation has been passed to ensure that these agreements are sufficient to defeat any subsequent tort action. As such, they can ask as much as they like.
Or, to put it another way: plenty of people are interested in flying under these conditions, if you're not, don't.
Hey, maybe you could answer this question for me.. how much shielding do you think manned spacecraft need from galactic cosmic rays? I've heard people say that the best thing you can do with galactic comic radiation is let it hit you.. of course that's a little hard if you're already shielding for solar radiation.
Most of my "contract work" has been done on a handshake. We agree on a rate (and some rules like "minimum of 3 hours for a callout"), I send them a bill, they pay it. Who owns the code? Meh.
But I guess you're talking about the US where every employer is a faceless corporation and every contractor is a weasel who will likely be on the Daily WTF at some point.
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So instead of a race to mass produce the unpatentable drug you have a race to produce the drug for the unpatentable gene. Whatever machinery you want to use to create the situation, the cost of clinical trials means drug companies need exclusivity from lab to drug store. The alternative is nationalized drug creation.. not that there's anything wrong with that, but know where your argument is going.. as the trials have become too expensive to expect drug companies to do in a race.
Who modded this up? There's a real conversation to be had here, and stupid analogies don't help.
The issue is: drugs have to go through expensive clinical trials before they are legal to be sold. Currently, drug companies pay for these trials because they are guaranteed exclusivity over the manufacturer of the drug should it turn out to be viable. Gene patents are an extension of this process, they give exclusivity to the drug company to develop the drug to target the gene. Without them, gene research is unlikely to lead to drugs to treat disease.
You can do all the research you like, it won't save lives. You can figure out how to make a drug that will cure [insert undesirable disease here] and publish the formula on the Internet.. watch as no-one will pay for the clinical trials to make the drug legal to sell.
Yes, because I hadn't thought of that, you're so much smarter than me.
15 years ago would be 1995. I've got a few games from that era which still work in Dosbox.. now, games from 1995 to about 2000 were all Win9x abominations that won't work.. unless you've still got an old machine lying around with win98 installed on it.. in which case I pity you.
Assuming, that is, your goal was to destroy the PC as a gaming platform.
I think that says more about Blender than it does about you.
As far as I'm aware, Robonaut 2 isn't even functional yet, let alone ready for flight testing. Did the writer just make this up?
Can anyone provide any references to show that Robonaut 2 is going to fly on STS-133? So far as I can tell, this is the only article on the web that even ties Robonaut 2 to the PMM.
Uhhh.. the article provides no references.. so I don't know where Nancy Atkinson is getting this information from.
As far as I'm aware, Robonaut 2 isn't even functional yet, let alone ready for flight testing. Did the writer just make this up?
Leaving aside the obvious sexist overtones of the article, it's almost entirely a rehash of last year's news that the Leonardo MPLM will be modified to be left permanently attached to the station when it flies on STS-133, becoming the Permanent Multi-Purpose Module.
What is it about humanoid robots that makes people report bullshit?
No.. but I'm saying the flight suit will protect you from smelling/touching the spew and substitute it with fart smells.
So what you're saying is that you're not interested in flying under these conditions?
You're aware you'll be wearing a flight suit and be inhaling your own farts too right?
any source on those figures then?
Any of Richard Garriott's talks where he goes into it.
if you actually calculate the cost/experience, i'd say the soyuz trip is a much better deal,
Heh, a BMW is a better experience than a Pinto too.. not everyone has the option :)
Nope.. all those figures were completely misquoted by the media. Every private astronaut who has flown through Space Adventures has paid between 30 and 35 million to Energia.. Dennis Tito (because of his previous failed attempts with Mircorp) and Greg Olson (because of his health issues) have paid between 50 and 55 million. And none of these figures include the travel to and from Star City, or the time they've had to take off work for training there - which is quite significant, when you consider that it is their sheer earning power that makes them able to afford the trip in the first place. And don't forget all the people who have paid for the preliminary training but flunked the medical.
That said, the price is coming down.. Energia is planning to increase production of Soyuz so they can have a dedicated private astronaut flight a year. Presumably when suborbital flights start up we'll see an increased interest in orbital. Competition in the form of SpaceX (and maybe others) should also have an effect.
The "stimulus" of human spaceflight by NASA has probably done more to stunt the growth of the industry than anything else possibly could have.
12 eh? Try 35.
Those same people used to spend about as much on personal computers.. now you have one.
Just like on Zero-G flights, spaceflight participants are informed of both the risks and the likely side effects of their trip before flying. They're required to sign a legally binding document which states that they understand and accept those risks. Legislation has been passed to ensure that these agreements are sufficient to defeat any subsequent tort action. As such, they can ask as much as they like.
Or, to put it another way: plenty of people are interested in flying under these conditions, if you're not, don't.
Hey, maybe you could answer this question for me.. how much shielding do you think manned spacecraft need from galactic cosmic rays? I've heard people say that the best thing you can do with galactic comic radiation is let it hit you.. of course that's a little hard if you're already shielding for solar radiation.
meh, copyright can fuck right off.. How would you even show damage in a case like this? Stupidity.
1.5Mbps is the figure quoted for SD, which won't be available until next year.
Seeing as you need a 5Mbps connection to play, I'd assume quite a bit! :)
Will that be before or after someone gets the Mac version to work on Linux?
What are the odds of an off-the-shelf DSLR even surviving to orbit?
So far? About 10 for 10.
What's this "contract" thing you speak of? :)
Most of my "contract work" has been done on a handshake. We agree on a rate (and some rules like "minimum of 3 hours for a callout"), I send them a bill, they pay it. Who owns the code? Meh.
But I guess you're talking about the US where every employer is a faceless corporation and every contractor is a weasel who will likely be on the Daily WTF at some point.
it's called gold plating.
BTW, every private astronaut who has flown on the ISS has taken equipment without NASA oversight.. and there's been no incidents.