It has nothing to do with pins dude. The TLB on just about every AMD64/IA64 chip can do a full 64 bits. The OSs are just written by people with no vision. It's not uncommon to address 1TB of physical memory on very high end servers. That's 40 bits right there. Now imagine you're building a nice big cluster of these machines. You want to assign a different address to every byte of physical memory. You may not be able to afford more than 1024 machines right now, but you'd sure like to in the future. That's 50 bits we're up to. How about assigning a different address to every bit in secondary storage? Them Google folks have 200 petabytes of storage space right? That's about 58 bits of address space. It's not hard to imagine that doubling every 12 months for 8 years..
You're on crack. Take off the tin foil hat. Telstra made demands of the government in their bid, the government declined to be bullied. It's that simple.
That's because we've barely scratched the surface of the potential of having a full 64-bit address space. Windows XP 64, for example, only provides 46 bits of address space to applications.
They're afraid of being broken up (because they're a monopoly) so they tried to put conditions on their bid. The government slapped 'em back into their place. Now they're crying about it.
Meh. You can use unmodified Windows libs in WINE too.. the point, that you obviously missed, is that you can run Windows apps without Windows libs (or Windows) using WINE.
Treating people like criminals will make them lose respect for you and that's a really bad way to make a sale. And yes, that includes snippy little remarks about "how honest" they are. I, personally, will never buy another game from this company so long as this dipshit is at the helm.
Oh dear. You're not familiar with the Australian government are you?
For a start, the majority of the cost on computers is luxury tax. Yes, the tax man in Australia still considers computers to be a "luxury".
Secondly, if the education department was to opt not to pay the luxury tax on these laptops then the revenue department would claim a shortfall. Ever wonder why government employees have to pay income tax? I mean, shit, their salary comes from the government. For a while I thought the defense force had got it right and didn't tax the wages of soldiers and airmen and such. But no, my confusion was from the advertising for the army reserve. Apparently that's just a carrot. I don't understand how they figure it's a carrot, but apparently it is. Oh, and for added hilarity, did you know that you have to pay taxes on unemployment benefits received from the government? Typically you don't.. because benefits are so low that it puts you under the tax free threshold.. but if you're unemployed for 6 months and employed for the remaining 6 months of a financial year, your combined incoming (benefits+salary) is taxed.. and you'll pay sales tax either way, and import taxes and luxury tax. Double, triple, quadruple taxes.. the ATO has no shame.
The parent was arguing that such companies are acting like drug dealers which is disingenuous...
Why? You have to make an argument. Everyone else can see that they are acting like drug dealers.. giving you your first "hit" for free. So what magical insight do you have that the rest of us are wrong?
My point was, as if anyone cares, that people see a "student edition" of a $500 product for $100 and go "wow, look how cheap that is!" when there are perfectly capable alternatives on the market for much less than even the student price. I actually hear people say with glee "wow, it's great that I can pay $100 now and $400 later when I've learned the product". You fucking what now? You're happy to pay the overpriced cost of the software because they gave you an installment plan? Oh, and BTW, "learning" how to use a piece of software is backasswards.. if you can't figure out how to use the software in the first 15 minutes of sitting in front of it then it is junk and you should raise your standards. But, to be fair, in some circles that's the best software available and the whole stinkin' industry needs to raise their standards at the same time, which will never happen organically.
Chief among these bizarre maneuvers is the idea that, when manufacturing their flimsy dystopia, they actually ported the pernicious notion of scarcity from our world into their digital one. This is like having the ability to shape being from non-being at the subatomic level, and the first thing you decide to make is AIDS.
Oh do fuck off. The software costs $500 because people will pay $500. If people would pay $5000, they'd charge $5000. If people wouldn't pay $500, they'd charge $100.. which is why they offer that price to students, cause otherwise they won't buy it. It's called the market price and it has nothing to do with how much it costs to make it.
"Mom, you need to buy me Adobe Creative Suite 3, I need it for class, it's only $500."
No, see, Adobe provides "student" editions which are cheaper. And by "cheaper" I mean they cost $100 instead of $500.. but that's still too expensive for the majority of parents with 2.5 kids.
Dude. The artists are out in force behind their publishers seeking a hand out just as much as the publishers. Did you miss the campaign to have copyright terms on sound recordings retroactively extended in the UK? Did you miss the Sonny Bono Copyright Extension Act? I don't think limited copyright terms automatically make copyright just. In fact, I don't think anything can make a government granted monopoly just. It's done to serve a pragmatic utilitarian purpose.. and, over centuries, intentions get lost or ignored.
One of our friends brought her boyfriend over the other day.. he'd heard of the Wii but never played it, so we fired up WiiSports for him. While playing "Tennis" I watched in amusement as he hit his hand into the wall, then my coffee table, then he tripped over the recliner, then he nearly hit his girlfriend in the head. While playing "Bowling" he hit *himself* in the head with the remote. I *could* have told him that such large movements are unnecessary but that would have took away his fun, and I wouldn't be able to laugh at him beating himself up. Some people just have problems with the whole augmented-sense-of-self thing.
It's not a tasteless joke ok? Just because your values differ from mine doesn't mean I'm magically "tasteless" or "joking".
I believe that a baby belongs to its mother, and if she wants to kill it, that's her choice.
You may disagree.. but so far you've completely defaulted on making an argument to convince me otherwise. Maybe you're not interested. That's fine. I couldn't be bothered convincing you of my opinion either.. but don't go calling me names as a substitute.
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Yeah, I believe the concept you're after is "Use It Or Lose It"
It has nothing to do with pins dude. The TLB on just about every AMD64/IA64 chip can do a full 64 bits. The OSs are just written by people with no vision. It's not uncommon to address 1TB of physical memory on very high end servers. That's 40 bits right there. Now imagine you're building a nice big cluster of these machines. You want to assign a different address to every byte of physical memory. You may not be able to afford more than 1024 machines right now, but you'd sure like to in the future. That's 50 bits we're up to. How about assigning a different address to every bit in secondary storage? Them Google folks have 200 petabytes of storage space right? That's about 58 bits of address space. It's not hard to imagine that doubling every 12 months for 8 years..
You're on crack. Take off the tin foil hat. Telstra made demands of the government in their bid, the government declined to be bullied. It's that simple.
That's because we've barely scratched the surface of the potential of having a full 64-bit address space. Windows XP 64, for example, only provides 46 bits of address space to applications.
They're afraid of being broken up (because they're a monopoly) so they tried to put conditions on their bid. The government slapped 'em back into their place. Now they're crying about it.
It's impossible to have a rational argument over semantics..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_calling_conventions
See "Microsoft x64 calling convention"
Meh. You can use unmodified Windows libs in WINE too.. the point, that you obviously missed, is that you can run Windows apps without Windows libs (or Windows) using WINE.
Support for Microsoft's ABI no doubt.
I can't believe you're still arguing about this.
All the people I know who work in call centers use shoddy in-house software running on citrix machines ;)
"Lock-in" is the addiction. Wow, you really didn't get that analogy did ya?
Treating people like criminals will make them lose respect for you and that's a really bad way to make a sale. And yes, that includes snippy little remarks about "how honest" they are. I, personally, will never buy another game from this company so long as this dipshit is at the helm.
Oh dear. You're not familiar with the Australian government are you?
For a start, the majority of the cost on computers is luxury tax. Yes, the tax man in Australia still considers computers to be a "luxury".
Secondly, if the education department was to opt not to pay the luxury tax on these laptops then the revenue department would claim a shortfall. Ever wonder why government employees have to pay income tax? I mean, shit, their salary comes from the government. For a while I thought the defense force had got it right and didn't tax the wages of soldiers and airmen and such. But no, my confusion was from the advertising for the army reserve. Apparently that's just a carrot. I don't understand how they figure it's a carrot, but apparently it is. Oh, and for added hilarity, did you know that you have to pay taxes on unemployment benefits received from the government? Typically you don't.. because benefits are so low that it puts you under the tax free threshold.. but if you're unemployed for 6 months and employed for the remaining 6 months of a financial year, your combined incoming (benefits+salary) is taxed.. and you'll pay sales tax either way, and import taxes and luxury tax. Double, triple, quadruple taxes.. the ATO has no shame.
The parent was arguing that such companies are acting like drug dealers which is disingenuous...
Why? You have to make an argument. Everyone else can see that they are acting like drug dealers.. giving you your first "hit" for free. So what magical insight do you have that the rest of us are wrong?
My point was, as if anyone cares, that people see a "student edition" of a $500 product for $100 and go "wow, look how cheap that is!" when there are perfectly capable alternatives on the market for much less than even the student price. I actually hear people say with glee "wow, it's great that I can pay $100 now and $400 later when I've learned the product". You fucking what now? You're happy to pay the overpriced cost of the software because they gave you an installment plan? Oh, and BTW, "learning" how to use a piece of software is backasswards.. if you can't figure out how to use the software in the first 15 minutes of sitting in front of it then it is junk and you should raise your standards. But, to be fair, in some circles that's the best software available and the whole stinkin' industry needs to raise their standards at the same time, which will never happen organically.
Plus I felt like ranting.
Chief among these bizarre maneuvers is the idea that, when manufacturing their flimsy dystopia, they actually ported the pernicious notion of scarcity from our world into their digital one. This is like having the ability to shape being from non-being at the subatomic level, and the first thing you decide to make is AIDS.
Or like DRM. Or like Second Life.
Oh do fuck off. The software costs $500 because people will pay $500. If people would pay $5000, they'd charge $5000. If people wouldn't pay $500, they'd charge $100.. which is why they offer that price to students, cause otherwise they won't buy it. It's called the market price and it has nothing to do with how much it costs to make it.
"Mom, you need to buy me Adobe Creative Suite 3, I need it for class, it's only $500."
No, see, Adobe provides "student" editions which are cheaper. And by "cheaper" I mean they cost $100 instead of $500.. but that's still too expensive for the majority of parents with 2.5 kids.
Yeah, because ISVs often dictate the terms for government contracts.
"We're thinking of using Linux" == "Hey Microsoft, we want a discount!"
Dude. The artists are out in force behind their publishers seeking a hand out just as much as the publishers. Did you miss the campaign to have copyright terms on sound recordings retroactively extended in the UK? Did you miss the Sonny Bono Copyright Extension Act? I don't think limited copyright terms automatically make copyright just. In fact, I don't think anything can make a government granted monopoly just. It's done to serve a pragmatic utilitarian purpose.. and, over centuries, intentions get lost or ignored.
One of our friends brought her boyfriend over the other day.. he'd heard of the Wii but never played it, so we fired up WiiSports for him. While playing "Tennis" I watched in amusement as he hit his hand into the wall, then my coffee table, then he tripped over the recliner, then he nearly hit his girlfriend in the head. While playing "Bowling" he hit *himself* in the head with the remote. I *could* have told him that such large movements are unnecessary but that would have took away his fun, and I wouldn't be able to laugh at him beating himself up. Some people just have problems with the whole augmented-sense-of-self thing.
Someone needs to do away with parents who let their 30-somethings stay at home ;)
It's not a tasteless joke ok? Just because your values differ from mine doesn't mean I'm magically "tasteless" or "joking".
I believe that a baby belongs to its mother, and if she wants to kill it, that's her choice.
You may disagree.. but so far you've completely defaulted on making an argument to convince me otherwise. Maybe you're not interested. That's fine. I couldn't be bothered convincing you of my opinion either.. but don't go calling me names as a substitute.
That's funny. Ya know, if you have post-natal depression and you kill your baby, you can't be convicted of a crime.