Blacks are convicted of crimes more often, certainly. Does that mean they're more violent, or that they get caught more? Or that they live in worse situations than whites? Are Asians particularly good at math, or do Asian parents favour certain qualities that lead to more favourable math outcomes? Are they in more stable communities so their kids have a better opportunity to study math? Is it cultural or innate? Are women actually bad at navigating, or is it that we're less likely to take little girls out to go camping and get experience at navigating? Is that your own bias, since I've always heard that women are better at navigating?
We actually have statistics that white people just aren't convicted as often for drug offences despite having similar or higher rates of use and dealing. Based on conviction data, a machine learning system would internalise the bias that blacks are more likely to have an involvement with drugs, despite that not being true. Garbage in, garbage out, right?
(Notice that those articles are from 2009, 2011, 2013 and 2014—this is not new data.)
So generalities are not necessarily based in reality. Indeed, your claim that 'Asians are good at math' is particularly bad since Asia is HUGE and there's no way everyone from that area of the world is good at math. And as a half-Chinese guy that's okay at math but much worse than my white partner, and who knows plenty of Chinese people that have no affinity for math at all, I feel like a lot of these generalities are based on folklore and a few selective tests that aren't really representative of ability.
The USA and Canada are not the bastions of equal opportunity that they purport to be, not for everyone. First Nations people in Canada and black people in the USA are consistently disadvantaged through broad government policy.
So all this to say that getting good, clean data for machine learning systems that remove human bias is incredibly difficult, since most humans are unwilling to admit their biases don't necessarily have a basis in reality, or are the wrong conclusions drawn from incomplete knowledge of data.
I know several tech people that have left Canada to work for companies like Google and Epic games and other big tech firms. Even if this program merely stems the flow or evens out the egress, it may be a win.
I love Touch ID. I use it all the time. I have a 15+ character passcode, and the only reason that is convenient is because of Touch ID. But a system that a) canâ(TM)t work in the dark and b) works in the light even without your consent isnâ(TM)t more convenient OR secure. I have no idea why Iâ(TM)d want this.
That said, this is all conjecture. Hopefully the real products this year keep Touch ID or something similar. I wonâ(TM)t stop using iOS products, but this isnâ(TM)t anything I can get excited over.
Law has a scientific and a colloquial usage. âoeMurphyâ(TM)s Lawâ is equally not a law, and yet weâ(TM)re not swayed by that argument to change its name. Mooreâ(TM)s Law was named by someone and itâ(TM)s in the common vernacular now. Nobody will have any idea what youâ(TM)re talking about if you refer to it as âoeMooreâ(TM)s Observationâ or âoeMooreâ(TM)s Conjectureâ. Itâ(TM)s not that youâ(TM)re being overly pedantic, youâ(TM)re just fighting against how language works.
Anyway, itâ(TM)s fine. The era of Moore will end soon enough, and maybe you can help name the next observed trend correctly.
Oh fuck right off. He's not a "critic", he's a harasser that deliberately took up the front rows with a gang of his cronies in a transparent play to intimidate her, and she wasn't having his shit.
She gets endless death and rape threats online every day, and you want her to play nice-nice with that pack of fuckwits?
Youâ(TM)re talking like I get nothing out of this. I get features I want, and all I have to do is file a bug report now and then.
Iâ(TM)m the sort of person that played World of Warcraft and was excited for patch notes day, even if I never used any of those features. Lots of people here have used or contributed to open source projects. Sometimes their contribution was only reporting bugs.
Today I stumbled across a bug that requires trying to reblog a tumblr post from a webview thatâ(TM)s not in Safari or the tumblr app, but causes an infinite redirection loop between tumblr and Safari, and is difficult to stop because the multitasking interface doesnâ(TM)t interrupt the redirection or give you enough time to kill either app. How in the world would Apple OR tumblr guess to do that test? And now I can be reasonably sure someone will look at that problem and I wonâ(TM)t have it anymore. Iâ(TM)ve bought myself future functionality for a few minutes out of my day.
If you donâ(TM)t want to install it, donâ(TM)t. Iâ(TM)m happy to do it. (And as long as I have the feedback app installed, I also report âoebugsâ that are just things that make me crazy. Also a good trade off.)
Tell that to people that are learning to walk again after being in a car accident or some other similarly traumatic incident. Some of the people that physiotherapists help are wheelchair bound before they get into therapy. Don't be an idiot.
I've had a persistent IT band problem for about 15 years from doing a lot of cycling and not noticing that my saddle was slightly askew for a while. To this day, if my bike is set up incorrectly, I'll end up with a pain so intense that I absolutely can't move my leg while I'm on the bike, and it will even make walking difficult later.
I went to physio for it. There were stretches and TENS therapy and massage with an obnoxious piece of metal (it was shaped like a large butterknife and was used to break down scar tissue in the area where my IT band was grinding against some bone). After 8 weeks of that, I was 'cured' and sent on my way. It DID feel better, but I'd still have trouble on long rides.
I went to a training camp, and there was a yoga class for cyclists included in the package. I'd been riding in low to moderate pain for the beginning of the camp, but literally just one yoga session solved my problem. I rode for the rest of that camp without any issues, and I still use the stretches that I learned.
I'm not providing this anecdote to denigrate physiotherapists, but I don't think they put enough stock in solutions like yoga. It was never brought up, and the stretches I was given to do weren't even close to as effective as the ones I picked up in that class. It could be that the physio I did was required to see the gains that I eventually saw later down the road, but I'm honestly very doubtful.
I believe strongly in Western medicine and the scientific process, but the reality is that a lot of doctors consider everything not done in a clinical setting a complete waste of your time and won't even suggest dropping into a yoga class to see how that goes at first.
Well, he would've been hired on as a tech lead, not just some random programmer. Understanding the problem space is probably hard, but not intractable for someone like him. He DOES have a PhD, after all. He might not be an expert in AI specifically, but he would've understood exactly how little he knew about the topic before he went in.
From the interview I heard (he was on the Accidental Tech Podcast a while back), he actually really liked his position as Lead, it's just that autopilot is actually a really interesting problem space and Tesla probably made him a pretty decent offer. (And, frankly, he's probably well off enough that the offer was more just an acknowledgement of his skill rather than any money he actually needed.)
Apple is working on new things that we aren't privy to. The 'next big thing' won't be the smartphone; the smartphone is ALREADY HERE. Looking at established products for any innovation at all is skating to where the puck is, not where it's going to be.
Your grasp of the details is obviously a lot better than mine; most of my info is just sort of gathered in passing, as I'm an Apple follower but not an Apple dev. I'd be interested to know definitively what the plan really was. Either scenario is kind of fascinating.
I don't know how likely it is, but it IS actually plausible for Apple to have done such a thing. They had an API for writing their own apps, they probably took code liberally from iTunes in order to set up the store, and initial volume would've been really low. Legend has it that Jobs really was actually counting on webapps for everything.
I've also heard that they took the iPod from zero to a product in considerably less than a year. Apple of that era would sometimes just turn on a dime and DO stuff.
To be clear, I think you're *probably* right, but I can conceive of a scenario where it really did totally take them by surprise and they had to bring it all together in just a few months.
Programmers that make more money tend to use spaces.
Why? Because programmers that make more money probably work for bigger companies. Bigger companies have coding standards. I've yet to meet someone that works for an organisation of any size that has a coding standard that enforces tabs over spaces.
Now, why do companies use spaces over tabs? I'm not sure about that.
Transgender women are women. They are not men. Many of them are trying desperately to get out of their men's bodies; many are on hormone replacement therapies or have had surgery to remove or add various parts that will allow them to conform better with the gender that they align with.
They do not have the full lived experience of women that were born in female bodies, but really, no people can claim to have the same lived experience to get them where they are, so I'm not sure how relevant that is.
The problem you're having—and the problem your argument will continue to fail on—is that transgender women are women, and transgender men are men.
Here's a podcast with a good discussion of the question, "What is a Woman?" http://philosophybites.com/201... The guest is a Dr. of Philosophy and runs through things much better than I could.
While it's very difficult to measure these effects, there are a number of secondary effects that occur when you remove the burden of worrying about money.
In the Mincome experiment in Manitoba in the 70s, they found that coincident with the experiment, hospital admissions were down 8.5%.
Particularly in the USA, that kind of drop in admissions would translate into considerable savings that would accrue primarily to the state, since those in poverty generally aren't capable of paying medical bills.
You might also see savings from people being able to care for sick family members/the elderly.
So I would say that your calculations provide a good floor for the benefit of the system; at worst it's a wash but it's considerably more equitable. At best it relieves the burden on the healthcare system, reduces crime, etc.
Yes. But that was always guaranteed. I've never seen math from someone that's against UBI that stacks up; much as in the article, it's either a misunderstanding of the system or purposely inflated numbers that make it look like a bad deal.
Basic findings: - mincome didn't appear to diminish motivation to work - people weren't worried about money as much; possible correlation with lower hospital admission rates - young men were more likely to finish high school rather than leave and get a job - mothers were more likely to stay home with young children
I work in an open plan office, so I would say that my default state is 'interrupted'. I have to work at feeling uninterrupted so I can get work done. For instance, right now, even with headphones on, I can hear and feel the movement of people around me. There are conversations and distractions happening out of the corner of my eye. God forbid I'd like to work without wearing something on my head or plugging my ears.
The open plan is an abomination and ruins productivity and eats money, but big companies don't want to lose the control of looking over your shoulder all the time, so they're willing to eat the cost, I guess.
They're trying to do that. Lisa Jackson was reviewed on Daring Fireball and they really are trying to get out of a lot of those things that are super harmful.
My iPhone 6 is still really good. I just sold my iPad 3 and I'm going to buy one of the new (cheap) iPads. I have a Mac, but I almost never use it anymore. My iPhone 4 lasted 4 years before I replaced it.
More than 'just working', which is true in some areas and not in others, Apple products LAST. They keep working a lot longer than they have any right to. I upgrade my devices when I want to. Even models that aren't getting updates anymore still work. I have an iPhone 4 at home and it still plays music perfectly fine.
I like things that work and that keep working. When I have trouble I walk into an Apple store and they talk to me and work things out. I've had precious few times where I needed to do this, but I have, and it's great. I can't imagine trying to take a phone back to my mobile carrier. They're terrible at basically everything, I can't imagine the unbelievable hassle of trying to return a possibly busted phone under warranty.
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You're jumping to the end too quickly.
Blacks are convicted of crimes more often, certainly. Does that mean they're more violent, or that they get caught more? Or that they live in worse situations than whites? Are Asians particularly good at math, or do Asian parents favour certain qualities that lead to more favourable math outcomes? Are they in more stable communities so their kids have a better opportunity to study math? Is it cultural or innate? Are women actually bad at navigating, or is it that we're less likely to take little girls out to go camping and get experience at navigating? Is that your own bias, since I've always heard that women are better at navigating?
We actually have statistics that white people just aren't convicted as often for drug offences despite having similar or higher rates of use and dealing. Based on conviction data, a machine learning system would internalise the bias that blacks are more likely to have an involvement with drugs, despite that not being true. Garbage in, garbage out, right?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/e...
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/...
(Notice that those articles are from 2009, 2011, 2013 and 2014—this is not new data.)
So generalities are not necessarily based in reality. Indeed, your claim that 'Asians are good at math' is particularly bad since Asia is HUGE and there's no way everyone from that area of the world is good at math. And as a half-Chinese guy that's okay at math but much worse than my white partner, and who knows plenty of Chinese people that have no affinity for math at all, I feel like a lot of these generalities are based on folklore and a few selective tests that aren't really representative of ability.
The USA and Canada are not the bastions of equal opportunity that they purport to be, not for everyone. First Nations people in Canada and black people in the USA are consistently disadvantaged through broad government policy.
So all this to say that getting good, clean data for machine learning systems that remove human bias is incredibly difficult, since most humans are unwilling to admit their biases don't necessarily have a basis in reality, or are the wrong conclusions drawn from incomplete knowledge of data.
I know several tech people that have left Canada to work for companies like Google and Epic games and other big tech firms. Even if this program merely stems the flow or evens out the egress, it may be a win.
I love Touch ID. I use it all the time. I have a 15+ character passcode, and the only reason that is convenient is because of Touch ID. But a system that a) canâ(TM)t work in the dark and b) works in the light even without your consent isnâ(TM)t more convenient OR secure. I have no idea why Iâ(TM)d want this.
That said, this is all conjecture. Hopefully the real products this year keep Touch ID or something similar. I wonâ(TM)t stop using iOS products, but this isnâ(TM)t anything I can get excited over.
Law has a scientific and a colloquial usage. âoeMurphyâ(TM)s Lawâ is equally not a law, and yet weâ(TM)re not swayed by that argument to change its name. Mooreâ(TM)s Law was named by someone and itâ(TM)s in the common vernacular now. Nobody will have any idea what youâ(TM)re talking about if you refer to it as âoeMooreâ(TM)s Observationâ or âoeMooreâ(TM)s Conjectureâ. Itâ(TM)s not that youâ(TM)re being overly pedantic, youâ(TM)re just fighting against how language works.
Anyway, itâ(TM)s fine. The era of Moore will end soon enough, and maybe you can help name the next observed trend correctly.
Oh fuck right off. He's not a "critic", he's a harasser that deliberately took up the front rows with a gang of his cronies in a transparent play to intimidate her, and she wasn't having his shit.
She gets endless death and rape threats online every day, and you want her to play nice-nice with that pack of fuckwits?
Youâ(TM)re talking like I get nothing out of this. I get features I want, and all I have to do is file a bug report now and then.
Iâ(TM)m the sort of person that played World of Warcraft and was excited for patch notes day, even if I never used any of those features. Lots of people here have used or contributed to open source projects. Sometimes their contribution was only reporting bugs.
Today I stumbled across a bug that requires trying to reblog a tumblr post from a webview thatâ(TM)s not in Safari or the tumblr app, but causes an infinite redirection loop between tumblr and Safari, and is difficult to stop because the multitasking interface doesnâ(TM)t interrupt the redirection or give you enough time to kill either app. How in the world would Apple OR tumblr guess to do that test? And now I can be reasonably sure someone will look at that problem and I wonâ(TM)t have it anymore. Iâ(TM)ve bought myself future functionality for a few minutes out of my day.
If you donâ(TM)t want to install it, donâ(TM)t. Iâ(TM)m happy to do it. (And as long as I have the feedback app installed, I also report âoebugsâ that are just things that make me crazy. Also a good trade off.)
Tell that to people that are learning to walk again after being in a car accident or some other similarly traumatic incident. Some of the people that physiotherapists help are wheelchair bound before they get into therapy. Don't be an idiot.
I've had a persistent IT band problem for about 15 years from doing a lot of cycling and not noticing that my saddle was slightly askew for a while. To this day, if my bike is set up incorrectly, I'll end up with a pain so intense that I absolutely can't move my leg while I'm on the bike, and it will even make walking difficult later.
I went to physio for it. There were stretches and TENS therapy and massage with an obnoxious piece of metal (it was shaped like a large butterknife and was used to break down scar tissue in the area where my IT band was grinding against some bone). After 8 weeks of that, I was 'cured' and sent on my way. It DID feel better, but I'd still have trouble on long rides.
I went to a training camp, and there was a yoga class for cyclists included in the package. I'd been riding in low to moderate pain for the beginning of the camp, but literally just one yoga session solved my problem. I rode for the rest of that camp without any issues, and I still use the stretches that I learned.
I'm not providing this anecdote to denigrate physiotherapists, but I don't think they put enough stock in solutions like yoga. It was never brought up, and the stretches I was given to do weren't even close to as effective as the ones I picked up in that class. It could be that the physio I did was required to see the gains that I eventually saw later down the road, but I'm honestly very doubtful.
I believe strongly in Western medicine and the scientific process, but the reality is that a lot of doctors consider everything not done in a clinical setting a complete waste of your time and won't even suggest dropping into a yoga class to see how that goes at first.
Well, he would've been hired on as a tech lead, not just some random programmer. Understanding the problem space is probably hard, but not intractable for someone like him. He DOES have a PhD, after all. He might not be an expert in AI specifically, but he would've understood exactly how little he knew about the topic before he went in.
From the interview I heard (he was on the Accidental Tech Podcast a while back), he actually really liked his position as Lead, it's just that autopilot is actually a really interesting problem space and Tesla probably made him a pretty decent offer. (And, frankly, he's probably well off enough that the offer was more just an acknowledgement of his skill rather than any money he actually needed.)
Apple is working on new things that we aren't privy to. The 'next big thing' won't be the smartphone; the smartphone is ALREADY HERE. Looking at established products for any innovation at all is skating to where the puck is, not where it's going to be.
Your grasp of the details is obviously a lot better than mine; most of my info is just sort of gathered in passing, as I'm an Apple follower but not an Apple dev. I'd be interested to know definitively what the plan really was. Either scenario is kind of fascinating.
I don't know how likely it is, but it IS actually plausible for Apple to have done such a thing. They had an API for writing their own apps, they probably took code liberally from iTunes in order to set up the store, and initial volume would've been really low. Legend has it that Jobs really was actually counting on webapps for everything.
I've also heard that they took the iPod from zero to a product in considerably less than a year. Apple of that era would sometimes just turn on a dime and DO stuff.
To be clear, I think you're *probably* right, but I can conceive of a scenario where it really did totally take them by surprise and they had to bring it all together in just a few months.
The correlation here is backwards.
Programmers that make more money tend to use spaces.
Why? Because programmers that make more money probably work for bigger companies. Bigger companies have coding standards. I've yet to meet someone that works for an organisation of any size that has a coding standard that enforces tabs over spaces.
Now, why do companies use spaces over tabs? I'm not sure about that.
Transgender women are women. They are not men. Many of them are trying desperately to get out of their men's bodies; many are on hormone replacement therapies or have had surgery to remove or add various parts that will allow them to conform better with the gender that they align with.
They do not have the full lived experience of women that were born in female bodies, but really, no people can claim to have the same lived experience to get them where they are, so I'm not sure how relevant that is.
The problem you're having—and the problem your argument will continue to fail on—is that transgender women are women, and transgender men are men.
Here's a podcast with a good discussion of the question, "What is a Woman?" http://philosophybites.com/201...
The guest is a Dr. of Philosophy and runs through things much better than I could.
No, they're asserting that straight men don't bother dressing as women before raping women in restrooms.
There's really only two that would've worked, but it's true that they should've included them.
Super interesting, thanks! I hadn't heard about that report!
While it's very difficult to measure these effects, there are a number of secondary effects that occur when you remove the burden of worrying about money.
In the Mincome experiment in Manitoba in the 70s, they found that coincident with the experiment, hospital admissions were down 8.5%.
Particularly in the USA, that kind of drop in admissions would translate into considerable savings that would accrue primarily to the state, since those in poverty generally aren't capable of paying medical bills.
You might also see savings from people being able to care for sick family members/the elderly.
So I would say that your calculations provide a good floor for the benefit of the system; at worst it's a wash but it's considerably more equitable. At best it relieves the burden on the healthcare system, reduces crime, etc.
Yes. But that was always guaranteed. I've never seen math from someone that's against UBI that stacks up; much as in the article, it's either a misunderstanding of the system or purposely inflated numbers that make it look like a bad deal.
The *original* UBI experiment was run in Canada. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Basic findings:
- mincome didn't appear to diminish motivation to work
- people weren't worried about money as much; possible correlation with lower hospital admission rates
- young men were more likely to finish high school rather than leave and get a job
- mothers were more likely to stay home with young children
/. is seriously the only site where this appears to be a problem. :|
I work in an open plan office, so I would say that my default state is 'interrupted'. I have to work at feeling uninterrupted so I can get work done. For instance, right now, even with headphones on, I can hear and feel the movement of people around me. There are conversations and distractions happening out of the corner of my eye. God forbid I'd like to work without wearing something on my head or plugging my ears.
The open plan is an abomination and ruins productivity and eats money, but big companies don't want to lose the control of looking over your shoulder all the time, so they're willing to eat the cost, I guess.
They're trying to do that. Lisa Jackson was reviewed on Daring Fireball and they really are trying to get out of a lot of those things that are super harmful.
http://daringfireball.net/link...
You can read the transcript or listen to the podcast. Either way, she was great.
My iPhone 6 is still really good. I just sold my iPad 3 and I'm going to buy one of the new (cheap) iPads. I have a Mac, but I almost never use it anymore. My iPhone 4 lasted 4 years before I replaced it.
More than 'just working', which is true in some areas and not in others, Apple products LAST. They keep working a lot longer than they have any right to. I upgrade my devices when I want to. Even models that aren't getting updates anymore still work. I have an iPhone 4 at home and it still plays music perfectly fine.
I like things that work and that keep working. When I have trouble I walk into an Apple store and they talk to me and work things out. I've had precious few times where I needed to do this, but I have, and it's great. I can't imagine trying to take a phone back to my mobile carrier. They're terrible at basically everything, I can't imagine the unbelievable hassle of trying to return a possibly busted phone under warranty.
Apple is good at those details.