Not really. It just indicates that they're all going for maximum profit for their shareholders. If one of them would piss off their shareholders and make SMS free, the rest would surely follow.
What's interesting here is that while everyone wants more competition in cellular, the crowd also seems to want nationalization of healthcare. Technically, cellular falls better into nationalization than healthcare... but I digress...
When so-called "software standards" include real Engineering testing and certification by third parties, civil liability for bad software that causes serious fiscal losses including lost time spent deploying bad software, and real repercussions for code monkeys that don't FOLLOW the standards, wake me up. Yawn.
Yet another popular "green" idea that the developers didn't even have the foresight to plan for transportation costs to build the thing... but you know, it's gonna save the world and all... why have a budget that includes such mundane things? Might not look so rosy through those glasses if you did THAT, for goodness sakes!
If you can't tell it's a winner without "vetting" it, it's mediocre crap that might be worthwhile, but not good enough to win you prizes, fortune, fame, or whatever it is you're after. Seriously.
And 10x the cost. Meaning that most management still doesn't REALLY know what the cost of the software projects they're asking for, really cost. They're long-gone by the time it's truly "finished" usually, too. Thus... if technology is supposed to make a company more competitive by spending money today on the tech that will make X work Y amount better than the previous system did... they can't really put values in for Y or compare that value to the true costs. Businesspeople should know better. SOMETIMES a fax machine, a pen, some paper, and a filing cabinet -- REALLY ARE the most efficient way to do something -- but we get convinced that a giant web-interface, database back-ended, monstrosity is a good way to say... track shipments of orders. When for many years prior to computers, the $10 solution worked just fine... tech is supposed to save or make the company money -- if it doesn't, it shouldn't have been used.
Your comment hides a KEY point that most software "engineers" miss: "core system" shows that you understand the concept of critical/must-have functionality and "nice to have" functionality. Many people calling themselves "engineer" think you can build/test/deploy it all at once...
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Horse-shit. "Brittle" software is badly designed and written. There ARE systems that aren't brittle out there. Building Avionics software, for example, also has very small tolerance for error, but the vast majority of aircraft fly just fine using that software. It's all about time, effort, money, and professionalism.
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Yes, there are documented cases of Electrical Engineers and ESPECIALLY Civil Engineers who have been named in Manslaughter lawsuits when their "products" failed. Many "lead" Engineers in both roles have to carry personal liability insurance policies, just like Doctors. Maybe not the rank-and-file, but in Civil Engineering, for certain... the Engineer in Charge signs the blueprints and they're sent to third-parties for external review before a BUILDING PERMIT is issued. I foresee this happening first in software "engineering" in the banking industry...
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In Civil Engineering, a lead Engineer SIGNS the blueprints that are checked by third parties. If they screw up, their REPUTATION is on the line. There is NO equivalent in so-called software "engineering".
Some countries reserve the title "Engineer" for those who have been through government Engineering certification Boards.
Unfortunately, software "engineers" have always fought this process and far too many don't have enough discipline to pass a knowledge test of how to properly build software anyway...
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No one is "happy" about it. They just have no other option.
S-Corps have been around since I paid any attention, and that was in the 80's when I was a kid.
Anyone starting a business had BETTER think filing $25 worth of paperwork (in most States) and talking to a business attorney about how to structure their business is "basic BUSINESS finance", yes.
I never said it was PERSONAL finance. To start a legal business you do have to learn something, duh. If you can't handle this stuff, there's no way your business is going to succeed anyway... you can't handle doing your own Accounting or at least reading and understanding what your Accountant is handing you at the end of the year, you're going to get fleeced. Same thing with the Tax man.
I didn't say ANYONE was a peon. Quite the contrary, YOU are claiming this stuff is "hard", and it's really not. You are assuming there's no hope for those who need to learn how to start a business... I'm saying, the information to do it right is all out there, and it's all free for those with the ability to read at a high-school reading level and basic high-school algebra.
Plus... life is complex. Deal with it or suffer. Whining about it isn't a long-term strategy, but it's certainly popular these days.
Not sure what the car analogy has to do with it, but if you can't read the manual that came with the thing and have a professional or yourself do the items clearly listed in the back, you probably are a really scary driver too... a certain level of COMPETENCY in life is required.
It's not supposed to get so easy you don't have to THINK. Not sure how you grew up thinking THAT -- maybe you need to spend some time in hard labor in farm country somewhere or something.
If you're ranting that the Legal system is too complex... hell, I agree with you there... but that doesn't mean you can just ignore it and pretend it'll go away... how many hundreds of years has Common Law existed? Law and order comes at a price... MINOR complexity in this case. Grow that company to a multi-national corporation, you'll be paying a fleet of lawyers and accountants to keep track of it all... promise.
So filing and S-Corp for an individual is NOTHING in the grand scheme of things... no big deal at all. It *is* something an individual can get done... no big deal.
Call me back/reply when you find a REAL problem... there's plenty of bigger/more important stuff to tackle in business than simple paperwork.
It's a free country -- they have the opportunity to learn. You can learn ANY of these so-called "games" in basic financial books written with "average Joes" in mind as their audiences, which load the bookshelves at every public library. Money management and basic personal finance are not "mysterious", but people try to make it so to justify not learning anything about it. It's rationalization at its finest.
The underlying big-picture in this whole thread is that IT might just be too expensive, period. There are MANY tasks that computers do in modern companies that truly were better served by a pen, a notepad, and a filing cabinet. Seriously.
Ask some folks running ZFS if they're experiencing problems... like "sorry, your data's gone" types of problems. Perhaps Apple's smartly just stepping back from the edge.
Get going on the goals... how you get there isn't important, but stop waiting for your boss or someone else to do it for you. Want to work in aerospace, lay out a plan and go do it. If it means you pay for school, fine. If the slacker boss decides you're worth keeping around for a while and will pay for it, fine. But it's your life. Live it while you have it. Screw waiting around for him though.
You don't have to quit, although it MAY be one means to your end. Use your analytical powers to figure out more than one path to your goal and then go DO one, if that one doesn't pan out, try ANOTHER one. The vast majority of fulfilled successful people just DON'T GIVE UP and keep going toward what they want. Bad boss, good job, bad job, whatever... just circumstances. The goal is the driving force, not the circumstances.
Your boss sounds like a serious loser, but he's a paycheck for now, and someone you may remember someday later as the "worst boss ever", but be smarter than him and work toward your goals.
As far as the singing... in one sentence you say you want to work in aerospace, and in the next few paragraphs you daydream about switching careers. Make a decision. Singing can continue to be a hobby and bring you well-rounded joy as you work through your aerospace goal.
You DO know what to do, you just need to go force yourself to make those things happen or change tactics smartly until you get where you're going. When you get in the car to go somewhere, you don't worry about HOW you drive the car, you think about the path to get there, you take detours around the potholes or construction other people are doing in your path, whatever... if this guy has to be the asshole who won't shut up in the passenger seat, fine... just ignore him and drive.
Your life, your happiness... if you play by your rules. He's figured you out... you'll sit and stew and do work for him while you try to figure out how he messes with you. Even if it's completely unconscious, he gets something from you -- are you getting where you want to go with him? If he's crippling your ability to get where you want to go... only you know that.
Think action verbs... go, be, do. Let him do whatever he wants... it doesn't matter. You're sitting in the car, parked, listening to him and trying to see if he'll give you a driving lesson. Put the car in Drive and hit the gas. He wants to get out of your car/life... let him out at the next convenient stopping point.
I also am not going to take any time to clean this up -- got other things to do. But, figured you might need a push. Get going. Pick a destination and head that direction. Flat tire, get out and change it. Need gas, make some money and re-fuel the car. You get the idea.
Yeah, but far too many projects end up at #2. That, in fact, for users seems to be the hardest part -- judging which projects their distro decided to use (especially desktop apps... holy cow) for no apparent reason, are going to survive for more than a year or two.
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Not really. It just indicates that they're all going for maximum profit for their shareholders. If one of them would piss off their shareholders and make SMS free, the rest would surely follow.
What's interesting here is that while everyone wants more competition in cellular, the crowd also seems to want nationalization of healthcare. Technically, cellular falls better into nationalization than healthcare... but I digress...
Technically true.
When so-called "software standards" include real Engineering testing and certification by third parties, civil liability for bad software that causes serious fiscal losses including lost time spent deploying bad software, and real repercussions for code monkeys that don't FOLLOW the standards, wake me up. Yawn.
Yet another popular "green" idea that the developers didn't even have the foresight to plan for transportation costs to build the thing... but you know, it's gonna save the world and all... why have a budget that includes such mundane things? Might not look so rosy through those glasses if you did THAT, for goodness sakes!
If you can't tell it's a winner without "vetting" it, it's mediocre crap that might be worthwhile, but not good enough to win you prizes, fortune, fame, or whatever it is you're after. Seriously.
... and "seeking input" is called a "stalling technique".
The White House doesn't give a shit what any of us think about anything under this Administration. Get used to it.
Same thing with IT workers. So what? Still need to get rid of the bad ones.
Illegal or not, they're still out here. They know this.
"You first".
Crazy Ivan?
We could send you to the tent in person, if you'd like. How much is "stand off" capability worth to you?
And 10x the cost. Meaning that most management still doesn't REALLY know what the cost of the software projects they're asking for, really cost. They're long-gone by the time it's truly "finished" usually, too. Thus... if technology is supposed to make a company more competitive by spending money today on the tech that will make X work Y amount better than the previous system did... they can't really put values in for Y or compare that value to the true costs. Businesspeople should know better. SOMETIMES a fax machine, a pen, some paper, and a filing cabinet -- REALLY ARE the most efficient way to do something -- but we get convinced that a giant web-interface, database back-ended, monstrosity is a good way to say... track shipments of orders. When for many years prior to computers, the $10 solution worked just fine... tech is supposed to save or make the company money -- if it doesn't, it shouldn't have been used.
Your comment hides a KEY point that most software "engineers" miss: "core system" shows that you understand the concept of critical/must-have functionality and "nice to have" functionality. Many people calling themselves "engineer" think you can build/test/deploy it all at once...
Horse-shit. "Brittle" software is badly designed and written. There ARE systems that aren't brittle out there. Building Avionics software, for example, also has very small tolerance for error, but the vast majority of aircraft fly just fine using that software. It's all about time, effort, money, and professionalism.
Yes, there are documented cases of Electrical Engineers and ESPECIALLY Civil Engineers who have been named in Manslaughter lawsuits when their "products" failed. Many "lead" Engineers in both roles have to carry personal liability insurance policies, just like Doctors. Maybe not the rank-and-file, but in Civil Engineering, for certain... the Engineer in Charge signs the blueprints and they're sent to third-parties for external review before a BUILDING PERMIT is issued. I foresee this happening first in software "engineering" in the banking industry...
In Civil Engineering, a lead Engineer SIGNS the blueprints that are checked by third parties. If they screw up, their REPUTATION is on the line. There is NO equivalent in so-called software "engineering".
Some countries reserve the title "Engineer" for those who have been through government Engineering certification Boards.
Unfortunately, software "engineers" have always fought this process and far too many don't have enough discipline to pass a knowledge test of how to properly build software anyway...
No one is "happy" about it. They just have no other option.
S-Corps have been around since I paid any attention, and that was in the 80's when I was a kid.
Anyone starting a business had BETTER think filing $25 worth of paperwork (in most States) and talking to a business attorney about how to structure their business is "basic BUSINESS finance", yes.
I never said it was PERSONAL finance. To start a legal business you do have to learn something, duh. If you can't handle this stuff, there's no way your business is going to succeed anyway... you can't handle doing your own Accounting or at least reading and understanding what your Accountant is handing you at the end of the year, you're going to get fleeced. Same thing with the Tax man.
I didn't say ANYONE was a peon. Quite the contrary, YOU are claiming this stuff is "hard", and it's really not. You are assuming there's no hope for those who need to learn how to start a business... I'm saying, the information to do it right is all out there, and it's all free for those with the ability to read at a high-school reading level and basic high-school algebra.
Plus... life is complex. Deal with it or suffer. Whining about it isn't a long-term strategy, but it's certainly popular these days.
Not sure what the car analogy has to do with it, but if you can't read the manual that came with the thing and have a professional or yourself do the items clearly listed in the back, you probably are a really scary driver too... a certain level of COMPETENCY in life is required.
It's not supposed to get so easy you don't have to THINK. Not sure how you grew up thinking THAT -- maybe you need to spend some time in hard labor in farm country somewhere or something.
If you're ranting that the Legal system is too complex... hell, I agree with you there... but that doesn't mean you can just ignore it and pretend it'll go away... how many hundreds of years has Common Law existed? Law and order comes at a price... MINOR complexity in this case. Grow that company to a multi-national corporation, you'll be paying a fleet of lawyers and accountants to keep track of it all... promise.
So filing and S-Corp for an individual is NOTHING in the grand scheme of things... no big deal at all. It *is* something an individual can get done... no big deal.
Call me back/reply when you find a REAL problem... there's plenty of bigger/more important stuff to tackle in business than simple paperwork.
It's a free country -- they have the opportunity to learn. You can learn ANY of these so-called "games" in basic financial books written with "average Joes" in mind as their audiences, which load the bookshelves at every public library. Money management and basic personal finance are not "mysterious", but people try to make it so to justify not learning anything about it. It's rationalization at its finest.
The underlying big-picture in this whole thread is that IT might just be too expensive, period. There are MANY tasks that computers do in modern companies that truly were better served by a pen, a notepad, and a filing cabinet. Seriously.
Ask some folks running ZFS if they're experiencing problems... like "sorry, your data's gone" types of problems. Perhaps Apple's smartly just stepping back from the edge.
Get going on the goals... how you get there isn't important, but stop waiting for your boss or someone else to do it for you. Want to work in aerospace, lay out a plan and go do it. If it means you pay for school, fine. If the slacker boss decides you're worth keeping around for a while and will pay for it, fine. But it's your life. Live it while you have it. Screw waiting around for him though.
You don't have to quit, although it MAY be one means to your end. Use your analytical powers to figure out more than one path to your goal and then go DO one, if that one doesn't pan out, try ANOTHER one. The vast majority of fulfilled successful people just DON'T GIVE UP and keep going toward what they want. Bad boss, good job, bad job, whatever... just circumstances. The goal is the driving force, not the circumstances.
Your boss sounds like a serious loser, but he's a paycheck for now, and someone you may remember someday later as the "worst boss ever", but be smarter than him and work toward your goals.
As far as the singing... in one sentence you say you want to work in aerospace, and in the next few paragraphs you daydream about switching careers. Make a decision. Singing can continue to be a hobby and bring you well-rounded joy as you work through your aerospace goal.
You DO know what to do, you just need to go force yourself to make those things happen or change tactics smartly until you get where you're going. When you get in the car to go somewhere, you don't worry about HOW you drive the car, you think about the path to get there, you take detours around the potholes or construction other people are doing in your path, whatever... if this guy has to be the asshole who won't shut up in the passenger seat, fine... just ignore him and drive.
Your life, your happiness... if you play by your rules. He's figured you out... you'll sit and stew and do work for him while you try to figure out how he messes with you. Even if it's completely unconscious, he gets something from you -- are you getting where you want to go with him? If he's crippling your ability to get where you want to go... only you know that.
Think action verbs... go, be, do. Let him do whatever he wants... it doesn't matter. You're sitting in the car, parked, listening to him and trying to see if he'll give you a driving lesson. Put the car in Drive and hit the gas. He wants to get out of your car/life... let him out at the next convenient stopping point.
I also am not going to take any time to clean this up -- got other things to do. But, figured you might need a push. Get going. Pick a destination and head that direction. Flat tire, get out and change it. Need gas, make some money and re-fuel the car. You get the idea.
Yeah, but far too many projects end up at #2. That, in fact, for users seems to be the hardest part -- judging which projects their distro decided to use (especially desktop apps... holy cow) for no apparent reason, are going to survive for more than a year or two.