CXoffice is targeted to linux users, not windows users. You will not get people to switch *because* they have cxoffice. They will switch for their reasons. But when they do, they will have the option.
Ah, well, linux is simply a different situation. Linux is free. And you know what? windows were kinda "more free" than OS/2... PC's were "more free" than apples and unix-boxes and amigas and ataris... playstation was "more free" than dreamcast in many ways... and did i mention that linux is free-free ?
Tabs ARE usefull, it's not just performance, There is a limit to how big a tasklist can get and still be usable, i now have one mozilla opened and one konsole and this saves me about 30 items on the talklist.
This way i can STILL use alt-tab.
And how about this: i browse through google, middle-click to any link i like and let it open on a backround tab untill i finish checking the first 50 results. That's one click versus shitf-click alt-tab.
I simply love the ability to open many tabs and many pages with one click. I use it on mozilla ( you can "bookmark this group of tabs" and then with ONE bookmark you open 5 pages in 5 different tabs).for example i have a button "start here" and a button "latest software" and a button "search", each of them opening 5-10 tabs with different pages.
I'd love to see it on konqueror, although an option like this for every single bookmark folder does seem a bit too much and useless.
Anyway the idea is (trust me) great, and the mozilla implementation is the way to go.
This is a very old attitude, you understand that the reason macs can still compete today is open source software. This is the only kind of software you can "support" and benefit ALWAYS.
Can you imagine how the world would be like if appleworks were opensource in the first place?
Yes, but she didn't have to install them now did she? I mean i kinda liked the article, cause it does point out some bad things about the linux distros' installers but that's all.
Just some kind of linux-installers try out. For crying outloud she did a SECOND install when in redhat 8 she couldn't mount the windows partition.
That said, it is quite a good article about linux installers.
strange, my feeling is that i go through 45 different cd's to install the drivers a linux box has installed out of the box. I also feel that linux is faster and easier to use than windows. And i know that never in the history of computers did a free architecture loose to a closed one.
And guess what, the average home user is actually NOT the one they are targeting with this shared source stuff. It's me! And they keep missing the target.
Hey i know that one company profits a great deal from software and that's MS. Having $40b in the bank, and with an annual income of around 8B coming from the worldwide IT budgets...
Tell me again, how exactly are other software companies profiting because of MS? Trade MS for linux NOW, the companies would have a whole $8b/year to share. period.
This is just another desperate move to keep *some* of the developers on the platform. Doomed to fail as it is too little, too late. I'd say it has been 2 years now that the cluefull developers turned to other platforms, mainly linux of course, leaving their platform with a vast number of inadequate VB scripters and game developers.
Ironically enough they went for the home user and forgot who got them where they are. You see a developer does much more than program. Finds bugs, has new ideas, decides about the platform a company will use. They need them but they -still- don't know how bad.
Here is an old fortune cookie: "Make something even a fool can use, and only a fool will be willing to use it."
MS people are simply stating that although OS is cheaper that their products the license is not really that easier to understand than their licensing nightmares:>
Or, maybe it's a "gentle" warning: If you are thinking about GPL code, better get some lawyers:>>
You understand of course that if you need a computer program to read it you will need a computer program to write it. In my exp, computer programs don't quite understand why 2048 is the number to stop nesting. Sometimes they are just not reasonable:)
Not so, there are two worlds, mathematics and the "real" world. You propably only need a finite amount of fuel and time to travel to another galaxy. But the more fuel you load, the more fuel you need, the more you travel, the more time it will take as the other galaxy is moving away from you, and,as you propably know, it cannot be done.
You see an input file that takes up all the space on your system is always a 'finite' file but most certainly cannot be parsed if it has an opening tag that doesn't close.
Most Perl programmers and scripters I know are willing to sacrifice simplicity, readability, flexibility, and overall quality for a few negligable performance boosts.
Could you *be* more mistaken ??? The only performance a perl/shell scripter cares about is the speed of the development process!
Simplicity is the actual goal of a script, it is of course kind of hard to indent one-liners (regarding the readability), the flexibility is perls middle name and what really matters is the quality of the parts, there is no such thing as "overall quality" !!
I completely fail to understand the need for such a complex config file. What's next, maybe have main() on the config file, so we can reaaaaally configure the program?
I understand the need for (let's say) a window manager to have all the options of various programs on one file for speed, even though there is a better way to trade simplicity for speed and that is a binary file.
No single program should need something like this though.
So, i will need an xml parser/editor to fix a machine that has gone down and i am left with init 1.
Just for the record, it's not like there was no other way to have a config file. People chose to have a plain text file for many reasons, and it's just better this way.
XML for a spreadsheet file format - just great. For configuration files, no thanks it's just stupid.
hey, some people really want windows to be better or gone, i don't use them but they are usually right in front of some "i need you to teach me computers" people that just don't accept "this is actually not my job" for an answer.
this is so very much JUST FUD... it really makes me wonder...
anyway i could argue that playa does NOT reset monitors to 800x600, winamp is a HELL of a lot easier and more NORMAL than windows media player, quicktime is not a joke it's an EXCELLENT piece of software, and realplayer one.. well i don't know about it, never seen it.
Also i would like to point out that when i got to use WMP i couldn't even make a playlist (yes i am sure it can be done, it just was just NOT easy for me. And I can make playlists for/usr/bin/play). Apart from that, it was such a dreadfully slow and heavy player...
maybe bundling it with windows does help this beast to be a bit faster, but, come on there are so many better players..
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huh? that would be the price if you weren't allowed to speak freely...
free speech goes like... "i might not like what you say but i will defend your right to say it".
Politics is politics, and science is science, you cannot confuse them, not if you are a scientist. A politician might though...
However the worst thing, in my opinion is how they were depending on the money... they should be able to keep up alone.
Apart from that, there is something very wrong with the picture:
"there are many dangerous nations out there"
==>
"stop a security project"
no?
CXoffice is targeted to linux users, not windows users. You will not get people to switch *because* they have cxoffice. They will switch for their reasons. But when they do, they will have the option.
Ah, well, linux is simply a different situation. Linux is free. And you know what? windows were kinda "more free" than OS/2... PC's were "more free" than apples and unix-boxes and amigas and ataris... playstation was "more free" than dreamcast in many ways...
and did i mention that linux is free-free ?
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conclusion: share your software, start a new project , see if other people are willing to help out.
Tabs ARE usefull, it's not just performance, There is a limit to how big a tasklist can get and still be usable, i now have one mozilla opened and one konsole and this saves me about 30 items on the talklist.
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This way i can STILL use alt-tab.
And how about this: i browse through google, middle-click to any link i like and let it open on a backround tab untill i finish checking the first 50 results. That's one click versus shitf-click alt-tab.
i could go on you know
I simply love the ability to open many tabs and many pages with one click. I use it on mozilla ( you can "bookmark this group of tabs" and then with ONE bookmark you open 5 pages in 5 different tabs).for example i have a button "start here" and a button "latest software" and a button "search", each of them opening 5-10 tabs with different pages.
I'd love to see it on konqueror, although an option like this for every single bookmark folder does seem a bit too much and useless.
Anyway the idea is (trust me) great, and the mozilla implementation is the way to go.
How is this a usability issue? In my view this is called "BUG".
You know like bug in "can't live with them, can't program without them?"
This is a very old attitude, you understand that the reason macs can still compete today is open source software. This is the only kind of software you can "support" and benefit ALWAYS.
Can you imagine how the world would be like if appleworks were opensource in the first place?
Theyve lost the race with MS Office, lost Exchange, SQL server races long time ago,
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cant wait till Microsoft ports IE6 to Linux
What, you don't think they lost THAT ???
Yes, but she didn't have to install them now did she? I mean i kinda liked the article, cause it does point out some bad things about the linux distros' installers but that's all.
Just some kind of linux-installers try out. For crying outloud she did a SECOND install when in redhat 8 she couldn't mount the windows partition.
That said, it is quite a good article about linux installers.
strange, my feeling is that i go through 45 different cd's to install the drivers a linux box has installed out of the box. I also feel that linux is faster and easier to use than windows. And i know that never in the history of computers did a free architecture loose to a closed one.
And guess what, the average home user is actually NOT the one they are targeting with this shared source stuff. It's me! And they keep missing the target.
I am sorry i don't understand, what are you talking about? You are a bot right? you make no sense...
You were using gcc for both platforms right? please answer if you are not a bot....
Hey i know that one company profits a great deal from software and that's MS. Having $40b in the bank, and with an annual income of around 8B coming from the worldwide IT budgets...
Tell me again, how exactly are other software companies profiting because of MS? Trade MS for linux NOW, the companies would have a whole $8b/year to share. period.
This is just another desperate move to keep *some* of the developers on the platform. Doomed to fail as it is too little, too late. I'd say it has been 2 years now that the cluefull developers turned to other platforms, mainly linux of course, leaving their platform with a vast number of inadequate VB scripters and game developers.
Ironically enough they went for the home user and forgot who got them where they are. You see a developer does much more than program. Finds bugs, has new ideas, decides about the platform a company will use. They need them but they -still- don't know how bad.
Here is an old fortune cookie: "Make something even a fool can use, and only a fool will be willing to use it."
MS people are simply stating that although OS is cheaper that their products the license is not really that easier to understand than their licensing nightmares:>
:>>
Or, maybe it's a "gentle" warning: If you are thinking about GPL code, better get some lawyers
You understand of course that if you need a computer program to read it you will need a computer program to write it. In my exp, computer programs don't quite understand why 2048 is the number to stop nesting. Sometimes they are just not reasonable :)
Not so, there are two worlds, mathematics and the "real" world. You propably only need a finite amount of fuel and time to travel to another galaxy. But the more fuel you load, the more fuel you need, the more you travel, the more time it will take as the other galaxy is moving away from you, and ,as you propably know, it cannot be done.
You see an input file that takes up all the space on your system is always a 'finite' file but most certainly cannot be parsed if it has an opening tag that doesn't close.
Most Perl programmers and scripters I know are willing to sacrifice simplicity, readability, flexibility, and overall quality for a few negligable performance boosts.
Could you *be* more mistaken ??? The only performance a perl/shell scripter cares about is the speed of the development process!
Simplicity is the actual goal of a script, it is of course kind of hard to indent one-liners (regarding the readability), the flexibility is perls middle name and what really matters is the quality of the parts, there is no such thing as "overall quality" !!
I completely fail to understand the need for such a complex config file. What's next, maybe have main() on the config file, so we can reaaaaally configure the program?
I understand the need for (let's say) a window manager to have all the options of various programs on one file for speed, even though there is a better way to trade simplicity for speed and that is a binary file.
No single program should need something like this though.
So, i will need an xml parser/editor to fix a machine that has gone down and i am left with init 1.
Just for the record, it's not like there was no other way to have a config file. People chose to have a plain text file for many reasons, and it's just better this way.
XML for a spreadsheet file format - just great. For configuration files, no thanks it's just stupid.
hey, some people really want windows to be better or gone, i don't use them but they are usually right in front of some "i need you to teach me computers" people that just don't accept "this is actually not my job" for an answer.
Ok, let's see, how about the choice to uninstall windows media player ?
this is so very much JUST FUD ... it really makes me wonder...
/usr/bin/play). Apart from that, it was such a dreadfully slow and heavy player...
anyway i could argue that playa does NOT reset monitors to 800x600, winamp is a HELL of a lot easier and more NORMAL than windows media player, quicktime is not a joke it's an EXCELLENT piece of software, and realplayer one.. well i don't know about it, never seen it.
Also i would like to point out that when i got to use WMP i couldn't even make a playlist (yes i am sure it can be done, it just was just NOT easy for me. And I can make playlists for
maybe bundling it with windows does help this beast to be a bit faster, but, come on there are so many better players..