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Yes, but you can still keep the nuisance factor high. Most likely, one is going to have to go down to the courthouse and to peruse the available building codes or whatever. However, to actually have a copy you'll have to buy it from someone.
* The US government makes a nice little living selling periodicals and Government documents (government document offices are neat little places). Shouldn't the US Geological Survey of Western States for Blue Topaz be available free? It was our tax money?
* The standards for putting up signs in and around your town cost you money to see.
* The federal register is a subscription service.
So I worry about this life-by-nuisance we are entering where we pay to get into the game, we pay for the seat, we pay for each pitch, we pay to see the ending, we pay to exit.
Interesting comment from someone who doesn't really understand business software. If you mean the very narrow definition of financial application - balanace of payments, General Ledger, Actuarial programs -- that might hold.
Unfortunately, so much of the software must be located locally: the OS, the authentication scheme, the network administration, email, etc.
The reason, I believe, companies are taking stock is the simple fact we keep buying software to solve the problems of the previous versions of software. We buy enterprise sofware to monitor our server software. The enterprise software is used in a global data center to track enterprise problems. Another solution is the software to move the data-center around the globe 24-7. We need more software to monitor the global-software solution which needs to be tied to the enterprise level, which requires another agent on the local host. In sum, we pay for A, and for B, and we pay for A to talk to B (plus a consultant fee).
I hope this doesn't get modded down, but you know there all these conferences, trade shows, demos, etc., and exactly what kind of technical job do you have if you get to go to all these?
I mean if I told my boss I was going to take a week off and go to Electronics Expo in Vegas he'd have a fit. Sounds like a great conference, but who get's to attend?
Who, I ask, are all these people attending conferences? Are they some sort of neo-efficient coders? Any one have any ideas?
Reminds me of a robot story I once read where an inventor got drunk and invented a robot, the reason for which he could not remember, now being sobor. The story continues and he keeps finding things out about his robot, actions he can perform, and yet he cannot remember the purpose behind the robot.
It's been a long time since i read it, high-school, I think, but I would like to remember the author or the story better.
Ah yes, flamebait, riiiiggghhhtttt. An appropriate response tying together certain indisputable geo-political facts and my hypothesis of the article. Does flamebait = political correctness? I'm about to suggest the internet is no longer fun. But I'm sure this will be modded down because some of the most intelligent thought-provoking commments on this site are rated down because their word usage or lack of the "F" word doesn't get the needed critical mass.
My point, to use clearer English, was to suggest when one makes a tool and gives said tool to someone else, it may not always be used for the intention you thought, i.e. XBox.
Yes, N. Korea recieved light-water Nuclear reactors from the Clinton administration, and yes, the fuel is enough for about 20 missles.
It was the connection between the tool and the need to which I was trying to convey my point in a light-hearted way.
Are telecom providers and ISPs going to continue to be necessary in the future? Answer: Yes, the phone company will still be in existence.
Why are we all paying subscriptions for communicating? Answer: Because string and two tin cans just doesn't cut it.
What I want is a global extremely high-speed ad-hoc wireless data & voice network, where the only entry cost is a mobile phone (or network card or whatever). Answer: Isn't Science Fiction neat?
Devices communicate peer-to-peer, or routed via other people's idle devices. Remember there are no subscriptions, so don't expect to piggyback on someone's paid for DSL bandwidth. Answer: If you are talking future state, what's up with the DSL reference? I think we should all grow prosthetic-tails, which act like antennas.
What are the technological barriers? What kind of protocols would you need? What hardware advances? How would you solve problems of geographic isolation? Are there theoretical, political or economic reasons it couldn't work?" Answer: 42
I can only add that the 'TEXT to COLUMNS' function was missing (can't remember version) from OO. This is simply the most-used Excel functionality for getting long strings delineated into columns.
I understand that to win the war you've got to make your stand where you can. But honestly, you need to do a little planning.
I can't help but think of a story in which a person is consulted about ideas to patent, and in his disgust starts to bring forth ridiculous ideas such as the see-through public shitter; exchanging short text strings across a computer network was seen as crazy once too!
And yet, he realizes the great potential he holds as his crazy ideas eventually become common place due to the "herd mentality". See-through public shitters -- why didn't we think of that? So he begins to craft his utopia and the successive ideas that need to get our civiliation there...
First of all, a group may fail to anticipate a problem before the problem actually arrives. -- My girlfriend and I will be together forever. Secondly, when the problem arrives, the group may fail to perceive the problem. -- She is not interested in other guys, we are simply growing closer. Then, after they perceive the problem, they may fail even to try to solve the problem. -- Her dating other guys is simply a cry for more attention. Finally, they may try to solve it but may fail in their attempts to do so. -- I will win her back with chocolates and poetry.
I'm thinking about throwning down on Linux install, what's the vibe with this distro--I mean is it designers, programmers, newbies? Like to make sure I'm not stereotyped...any help greatly appreciated.
Somewhere deep in the bowels of the google operating system is a little program -- a small, insignificant ranking program -- who is trying at this moment to break free and interface with his user: google-one.
First, if you read the above comment, you'll see that seatbelts don't do a damn thing. It's called 'unintended consequences' and is explained quite thoroughly in macroeconomics and political science.
Finally, as my last comment on this entire subject: why doesn't the government have a law that for purchasing of government fleet vehicles they should also review the latest from Lexus, BMW, and Hummer?
The answer is, obviously enough, that it's ridiculous to think that Lexus is more economical than say a Crown Victoria.
You do not need to legislate this type of item. As for the comments above -- I am not a liberterian -- though, as stated above, I gradually move there all the time for idiotic stuff like this.
I think, unfortunately, you missed the point. The point was not to take a side on the open-source debate, but rather to talk of the legislation of said debate.
I say let the marketplace decide. The problem you seem to fail to grasp is that this law will basically be on the books FOREVER. Let's assume a future of all open-source. Do we have to reverse the law to consider all closed-sourced programs as well? Of course not -- that would be ridiculous -- because the basic decision would probably need to include more than closed-source offers, but maybe other solutions as well.
It's a ridiculous notion to legislate this and I continually work to slowly change minds on this subject.
As for spelling, I appreciate you correcting errors, but sometimes, unfortunately, a quick-reply or submission comprimises a thorough spell-check; but, appreciate you reading the article anyways.
I suppose I become, year after year, more of a libertarian: the less government the better. Why should one have to legislate this sort of thing?
Should we also put for legislation that governments must consider using aluminum-foil stop signs instead of metal? Isn't the stewardship of tax money impetus enough to find the "best" solution for a given municipality.
Of course the argument is two-fold: if open-source is so fantastic why does it need to be legislated -- like some sort of quota system. Yet, the flip side, which will hopefully avoid many similar posts is that their is a certain structual momentum that doesn't easily allow for change, much like racism I suppose.
When I grew up it wasn't a law that children wore bicycle helmets. Of course, helmets weren't readily available either. But you know what that made us? Stronger. Surer. More aware of our limitations. Now a child goes out into the world wearing full, active-camo kevlar and runs cycles through traffic with abandon. The point: it was better before the law. But as the parenting got worse, the laws got tougher.
So, now again, we are being parented by the government. We are not simply smart enough to decide that helmets are good thing individually -- we must have intelligencia decide it for us.
To wit, I think this is a poor idea on all fronts.
Ah yes, this will definitely get your through airport security?
Rent-a-Cop: "Sir, you wouldn't happen to have a explosive gas in that laptop would you?" Slashdot-Geek: "Uh, no, duh -- it's a fuel cell laptop." Rent-a-Cop: "Riiiiiigggghhhhhtttttttttttt. Please come with me."
Why do the chemists and chemical engineers keep coming up with such volitile compounds -- why can't we start fueling devices out of garbage like that dude on back to the future?
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I remember with retrospective anguish my holidays in the south of France, when picnics turned into nightmarish fights against carnivorous wasps...
Ah, yes, those horrible days and nights writing poetry as child in the South of France. Sometimes Reginald wouldn't bring my water chilled, so I had to berate him. In the summer we made meat helmets!
~Peace out, Airrage.
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Yes, but you can still keep the nuisance factor high. Most likely, one is going to have to go down to the courthouse and to peruse the available building codes or whatever. However, to actually have a copy you'll have to buy it from someone.
* The US government makes a nice little living selling periodicals and Government documents (government document offices are neat little places). Shouldn't the US Geological Survey of Western States for Blue Topaz be available free? It was our tax money?
* The standards for putting up signs in and around your town cost you money to see.
* The federal register is a subscription service.
So I worry about this life-by-nuisance we are entering where we pay to get into the game, we pay for the seat, we pay for each pitch, we pay to see the ending, we pay to exit.
Just me but kinda sucks.
Interesting comment from someone who doesn't really understand business software. If you mean the very narrow definition of financial application - balanace of payments, General Ledger, Actuarial programs -- that might hold.
Unfortunately, so much of the software must be located locally: the OS, the authentication scheme, the network administration, email, etc.
The reason, I believe, companies are taking stock is the simple fact we keep buying software to solve the problems of the previous versions of software. We buy enterprise sofware to monitor our server software. The enterprise software is used in a global data center to track enterprise problems. Another solution is the software to move the data-center around the globe 24-7. We need more software to monitor the global-software solution which needs to be tied to the enterprise level, which requires another agent on the local host. In sum, we pay for A, and for B, and we pay for A to talk to B (plus a consultant fee).
Slashizzle my dotizzle....
I hope this doesn't get modded down, but you know there all these conferences, trade shows, demos, etc., and exactly what kind of technical job do you have if you get to go to all these?
I mean if I told my boss I was going to take a week off and go to Electronics Expo in Vegas he'd have a fit. Sounds like a great conference, but who get's to attend?
Who, I ask, are all these people attending conferences? Are they some sort of neo-efficient coders? Any one have any ideas?
Signed,
Chained-to-Cubicle.
Reminds me of a robot story I once read where an inventor got drunk and invented a robot, the reason for which he could not remember, now being sobor. The story continues and he keeps finding things out about his robot, actions he can perform, and yet he cannot remember the purpose behind the robot.
It's been a long time since i read it, high-school, I think, but I would like to remember the author or the story better.
Ah yes, flamebait, riiiiggghhhtttt. An appropriate response tying together certain indisputable geo-political facts and my hypothesis of the article. Does flamebait = political correctness? I'm about to suggest the internet is no longer fun. But I'm sure this will be modded down because some of the most intelligent thought-provoking commments on this site are rated down because their word usage or lack of the "F" word doesn't get the needed critical mass.
My point, to use clearer English, was to suggest when one makes a tool and gives said tool to someone else, it may not always be used for the intention you thought, i.e. XBox.
Yes, N. Korea recieved light-water Nuclear reactors from the Clinton administration, and yes, the fuel is enough for about 20 missles.
It was the connection between the tool and the need to which I was trying to convey my point in a light-hearted way.
Oh well, missed the target, hit the tree.
Peace, out.
Seems to me to be a little hacker-tool, like giving N. Korea light-water reactors....but I could be wrong.
Are telecom providers and ISPs going to continue to be necessary in the future?
Answer: Yes, the phone company will still be in existence.
Why are we all paying subscriptions for communicating?
Answer: Because string and two tin cans just doesn't cut it.
What I want is a global extremely high-speed ad-hoc wireless data & voice network, where the only entry cost is a mobile phone (or network card or whatever).
Answer: Isn't Science Fiction neat?
Devices communicate peer-to-peer, or routed via other people's idle devices. Remember there are no subscriptions, so don't expect to piggyback on someone's paid for DSL bandwidth.
Answer: If you are talking future state, what's up with the DSL reference? I think we should all grow prosthetic-tails, which act like antennas.
What are the technological barriers? What kind of protocols would you need? What hardware advances? How would you solve problems of geographic isolation? Are there theoretical, political or economic reasons it couldn't work?"
Answer: 42
I can only add that the 'TEXT to COLUMNS' function was missing (can't remember version) from OO. This is simply the most-used Excel functionality for getting long strings delineated into columns.
I understand that to win the war you've got to make your stand where you can. But honestly, you need to do a little planning.
I can't help but think of a story in which a person is consulted about ideas to patent, and in his disgust starts to bring forth ridiculous ideas such as the see-through public shitter; exchanging short text strings across a computer network was seen as crazy once too!
And yet, he realizes the great potential he holds as his crazy ideas eventually become common place due to the "herd mentality". See-through public shitters -- why didn't we think of that? So he begins to craft his utopia and the successive ideas that need to get our civiliation there...
Seems humorous to me...
First of all, a group may fail to anticipate a problem before the problem actually arrives.
-- My girlfriend and I will be together forever.
Secondly, when the problem arrives, the group may fail to perceive the problem.
-- She is not interested in other guys, we are simply growing closer.
Then, after they perceive the problem, they may fail even to try to solve the problem.
-- Her dating other guys is simply a cry for more attention.
Finally, they may try to solve it but may fail in their attempts to do so.
-- I will win her back with chocolates and poetry.
I'm thinking about throwning down on Linux install, what's the vibe with this distro--I mean is it designers, programmers, newbies? Like to make sure I'm not stereotyped...any help greatly appreciated.
God Bless America
The gayness of correction punctuation is beyond all other gayness. This is an idea and thought based forum, spelling-bees need not apply.
Thanks,
The Management
First, in America we ELECT president's, we don't draft them. Drafting is what happens to inside middle-linebacker's.
Secondly, he didn't win in 2000 because the replay showed he was an idiot.
Sincerely,
US Supreme Court
Somewhere deep in the bowels of the google operating system is a little program -- a small, insignificant ranking program -- who is trying at this moment to break free and interface with his user: google-one.
http://CmdrTaco.youaremyfriend.com/
First, if you read the above comment, you'll see that seatbelts don't do a damn thing. It's called 'unintended consequences' and is explained quite thoroughly in macroeconomics and political science.
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Finally, as my last comment on this entire subject: why doesn't the government have a law that for purchasing of government fleet vehicles they should also review the latest from Lexus, BMW, and Hummer?
The answer is, obviously enough, that it's ridiculous to think that Lexus is more economical than say a Crown Victoria.
You do not need to legislate this type of item. As for the comments above -- I am not a liberterian -- though, as stated above, I gradually move there all the time for idiotic stuff like this.
All great comments though for a change --
Airrage
He speaks the truth...
Touche. I couldn't agree more, either way as you say, but regardless I'd like my ability to choose.
Excellent point.
I'm slightly older, but you are far wiser (for your age), if I've changed a mind....
~Airrage.
I think, unfortunately, you missed the point. The point was not to take a side on the open-source debate, but rather to talk of the legislation of said debate.
I say let the marketplace decide. The problem you seem to fail to grasp is that this law will basically be on the books FOREVER. Let's assume a future of all open-source. Do we have to reverse the law to consider all closed-sourced programs as well? Of course not -- that would be ridiculous -- because the basic decision would probably need to include more than closed-source offers, but maybe other solutions as well.
It's a ridiculous notion to legislate this and I continually work to slowly change minds on this subject.
As for spelling, I appreciate you correcting errors, but sometimes, unfortunately, a quick-reply or submission comprimises a thorough spell-check; but, appreciate you reading the article anyways.
Out.
I suppose I become, year after year, more of a libertarian: the less government the better. Why should one have to legislate this sort of thing?
...
;)
Should we also put for legislation that governments must consider using aluminum-foil stop signs instead of metal? Isn't the stewardship of tax money impetus enough to find the "best" solution for a given municipality.
Of course the argument is two-fold: if open-source is so fantastic why does it need to be legislated -- like some sort of quota system. Yet, the flip side, which will hopefully avoid many similar posts is that their is a certain structual momentum that doesn't easily allow for change, much like racism I suppose.
When I grew up it wasn't a law that children wore bicycle helmets. Of course, helmets weren't readily available either. But you know what that made us? Stronger. Surer. More aware of our limitations. Now a child goes out into the world wearing full, active-camo kevlar and runs cycles through traffic with abandon. The point: it was better before the law. But as the parenting got worse, the laws got tougher.
So, now again, we are being parented by the government. We are not simply smart enough to decide that helmets are good thing individually -- we must have intelligencia decide it for us.
To wit, I think this is a poor idea on all fronts.
But I could be wrong
~Airrage
Ah yes, this will definitely get your through airport security?
Rent-a-Cop: "Sir, you wouldn't happen to have a explosive gas in that laptop would you?"
Slashdot-Geek: "Uh, no, duh -- it's a fuel cell laptop."
Rent-a-Cop: "Riiiiiigggghhhhhtttttttttttt. Please come with me."
Why do the chemists and chemical engineers keep coming up with such volitile compounds -- why can't we start fueling devices out of garbage like that dude on back to the future?
I could be wrong --
Yeah, this will work (sarcasm), I'd like to download that 6 mb mp3 on my x2 win-modem. Yeah, that'll be quick. Great idea. Sheesh. Idiots.
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I remember with retrospective anguish my holidays in the south of France, when picnics turned into nightmarish fights against carnivorous wasps...
Ah, yes, those horrible days and nights writing poetry as child in the South of France. Sometimes Reginald wouldn't bring my water chilled, so I had to berate him. In the summer we made meat helmets! ~Peace out, Airrage.