Yes, but that wasn't my point. My point was that the grandparent poster did not assume that there are some copyrighted works that are legal to distribute over p2p networks. This also applies to music from some bands, and some videos.
Yes, but that wasn't my point. My point was that the grandparent assumed that there are some copyrighted works that are legal to distribute over p2p networks. This also applies to music from some bands, and some videos.
great.. let me create a fork of another open protocol such as freenet, openft, or even gnutella, and call it gnu3. i can have the first gnutellav3 client done by tommarow. it'll be on slashdot in a week.
there is quite a bit of danger to your reasoning. an official gnutella2 standard should be adopted, instead of one client calling it's new protocol the next gnutella protocol.
> Is this official, by the original Gnutella developers? (who were winamp related, right?)
Yes, the original Gnutella developers worked for Nullsoft, then a division of netscape, a division of AOL, now a division of AOL/tw.
No, it's not official in that sense. It's not even official in the sense that other gnutella-client (such as limewire, bearshare, gtk-gnutella, qtella, gnucleus, etc..) developers have adopted, or agreed anything of shareaza's new protocol.
Of course, I hope this new protocol works good, but it's wrong to attach the gnutella name to it. It doesn't have much to do with it at all. Next thing that'll happen is someone else will come up with a totally different protocol and call it "gnutellav3" or something. Bad precident.
You make the incorrect assumption that Redhat 8.0 isn't copywrited. Last time I checked, Linux, Redhat, and gnu tools were not under the public domain.
Even John Carmack, who has been critical of parts of DirectX in the past (e.g, Direct3d), uses other parts of DirectX in his projects. For example, in the windows versions of Quake3 (and Quake3-derived games), DirectInput is used. A OpenGL/DirectInput combo is actually quite common.
NeHe is nice and all, and indeed, where I point anyone who is new to OpenGL, but it doesn't cover any modern techniques specific to DirectX 7-9, OpenGL extentions, and vendor specific extentions.
1. India has an impending crisis that could potentially balloon to having more AIDS victims than all AIDS victims in Africa _combined_ 2. The Gates Foundation already gave $250 mil to countries in Africa, with more donations coming up. Please don't tell me that this is to combat the growing amount of open source developers in Timbuktu.
Actually, k-meleon 0.7 hasn't been released yet. The webpage was announced a week ago, but the betas have been available for about six months through the development mailing list.
No, the XUL UI for Mozilla isn't badly written, it is just more complicated than Phoenix's, especially in the sense that it is much more than just a browser like Phoenix. It is ignorance to call it badly written; great optimizations have been done to XUL because of the Mozilla GUI, especially after Mozilla 0.9.1.
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> While OpenFT is a good protocol, their support for casual users (even of the linux variety) is rather hostile.
This is mostly because the new giFT is not really supposed to be used by the wide public yet, as there is not a general release yet. You are welcome to test it right now, and thus help improve it, but it's not in a stage where the developers like jasta can give support for it, especially when it's still changing relatively rapidly.
Anyways, giFT is still worth trying. It is really shaping up as quite a project. I've been following it since before the beginning, when a mysterious group of people called the "givers" had reversed the FastTrack protocol, and donated it to a group called kazaa-linux who had been working to make kazaa or a variant work in Linux. It's still unknown who the givers were.
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> I even got my girlfriend, boss, and brother using Bearshare.
Congratulations, you made them install quite a bit of spyware too.
I would recommend something like XoloX, which has absolutely no spyware.
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is OpenFT from the giFT project.. as people may recall, giFT was originally an open implmentation of parts of the FastTrack protocol, used by Kazaa, et al. This was an year ago, and KaZaA was not at all happy about this, so they updated a few times to break giFT (see KaZaA version 1.33).
So, some of giFT's developers decided to abandon fasttrack, and make their own protocol, OpenFT. giFT went from "giFT is not FastTrack" to "giFT: Internet File Transfer". This protocol, primarily written by jasta of gnapster fame, has been development for the last ~8 months. A publically released version of giFT with OpenFT is not available yet, but right now, the CVS version works quite well.. even in some ways better than FastTrack does.
There are also some great advantages to giFT. First of all, it enforces a seperation between the client and the network code. giFT is a daemon that handles most of the interaction with the outside world. There are also a multitude of giFT frontends, which are very easy to write, as no network code has to be created. giFT is also modular.. you can put in bridges or even full support to other protocols and networks.
> Those games have demos you could have played for free and that were provided by the software makers.
Except that in many cases, the demos are old and not representive of gameplay. The Quake3 demo, for example, was based on Quake3 1.11 (I beleive). The current build of Quake3 is 1.32, and has had many tweaks over the ages.
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Does it run on win32 or OSX?
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Yes, Thunderbird 0.1 will probably be out at the same time as Phoenix 0.5 gets out.
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I'm sorry, but a Celeron 500 isn't exactly fast these days. It's in the same level that a pII 233 would be several years ago.
er, sorry, I posted too hastily...
I meant, rather:
Yes, but that wasn't my point. My point was that the grandparent poster did not assume that there are some copyrighted works that are legal to distribute over p2p networks. This also applies to music from some bands, and some videos.
Yes, but that wasn't my point. My point was that the grandparent assumed that there are some copyrighted works that are legal to distribute over p2p networks. This also applies to music from some bands, and some videos.
great.. let me create a fork of another open protocol such as freenet, openft, or even gnutella, and call it gnu3. i can have the first gnutellav3 client done by tommarow. it'll be on slashdot in a week.
there is quite a bit of danger to your reasoning. an official gnutella2 standard should be adopted, instead of one client calling it's new protocol the next gnutella protocol.
> Is this official, by the original Gnutella developers? (who were winamp related, right?)
Yes, the original Gnutella developers worked for Nullsoft, then a division of netscape, a division of AOL, now a division of AOL/tw.
No, it's not official in that sense. It's not even official in the sense that other gnutella-client (such as limewire, bearshare, gtk-gnutella, qtella, gnucleus, etc..) developers have adopted, or agreed anything of shareaza's new protocol.
Of course, I hope this new protocol works good, but it's wrong to attach the gnutella name to it. It doesn't have much to do with it at all. Next thing that'll happen is someone else will come up with a totally different protocol and call it "gnutellav3" or something. Bad precident.
You make the incorrect assumption that Redhat 8.0 isn't copywrited. Last time I checked, Linux, Redhat, and gnu tools were not under the public domain.
the story author really should have put in a url to busybox.. here it is.
Qt has supported Xft since Qt 2.3.0. There were patches made by Keith Packard for Qt 2.2.x.
Qt 3.1 is the first with Xft2 support.
> Why not make Qt LGPL?
Hate to say this, but this applies here:
Keys to Trolltech's longterm financial stability:
1. Make Qt LGPL
2. Make dinner
3. ???
4. Profit!!
Indeed, this is a very good point.
Even John Carmack, who has been critical of parts of DirectX in the past (e.g, Direct3d), uses other parts of DirectX in his projects. For example, in the windows versions of Quake3 (and Quake3-derived games), DirectInput is used. A OpenGL/DirectInput combo is actually quite common.
Actually, after working with both of these consoles, I can tell you that OpenGL is most unusuable in both platforms.
NeHe is nice and all, and indeed, where I point anyone who is new to OpenGL, but it doesn't cover any modern techniques specific to DirectX 7-9, OpenGL extentions, and vendor specific extentions.
it's only funny once.
1. India has an impending crisis that could potentially balloon to having more AIDS victims than all AIDS victims in Africa _combined_
2. The Gates Foundation already gave $250 mil to countries in Africa, with more donations coming up. Please don't tell me that this is to combat the growing amount of open source developers in Timbuktu.
Read up on how (open)Mosix works.
Actually, k-meleon 0.7 hasn't been released yet. The webpage was announced a week ago, but the betas have been available for about six months through the development mailing list.
No, the XUL UI for Mozilla isn't badly written, it is just more complicated than Phoenix's, especially in the sense that it is much more than just a browser like Phoenix. It is ignorance to call it badly written; great optimizations have been done to XUL because of the Mozilla GUI, especially after Mozilla 0.9.1.
> While OpenFT is a good protocol, their support for casual users (even of the linux variety) is rather hostile.
This is mostly because the new giFT is not really supposed to be used by the wide public yet, as there is not a general release yet. You are welcome to test it right now, and thus help improve it, but it's not in a stage where the developers like jasta can give support for it, especially when it's still changing relatively rapidly.
Anyways, giFT is still worth trying. It is really shaping up as quite a project. I've been following it since before the beginning, when a mysterious group of people called the "givers" had reversed the FastTrack protocol, and donated it to a group called kazaa-linux who had been working to make kazaa or a variant work in Linux. It's still unknown who the givers were.
> I even got my girlfriend, boss, and brother using Bearshare.
Congratulations, you made them install quite a bit of spyware too.
I would recommend something like XoloX, which has absolutely no spyware.
is OpenFT from the giFT project.. as people may recall, giFT was originally an open implmentation of parts of the FastTrack protocol, used by Kazaa, et al. This was an year ago, and KaZaA was not at all happy about this, so they updated a few times to break giFT (see KaZaA version 1.33).
So, some of giFT's developers decided to abandon fasttrack, and make their own protocol, OpenFT. giFT went from "giFT is not FastTrack" to "giFT: Internet File Transfer". This protocol, primarily written by jasta of gnapster fame, has been development for the last ~8 months. A publically released version of giFT with OpenFT is not available yet, but right now, the CVS version works quite well.. even in some ways better than FastTrack does.
There are also some great advantages to giFT. First of all, it enforces a seperation between the client and the network code. giFT is a daemon that handles most of the interaction with the outside world. There are also a multitude of giFT frontends, which are very easy to write, as no network code has to be created. giFT is also modular.. you can put in bridges or even full support to other protocols and networks.
heh, LFS is not really a distro.
> Those games have demos you could have played for free and that were provided by the software makers.
Except that in many cases, the demos are old and not representive of gameplay. The Quake3 demo, for example, was based on Quake3 1.11 (I beleive). The current build of Quake3 is 1.32, and has had many tweaks over the ages.
Does it run on win32 or OSX?
Yes, Thunderbird 0.1 will probably be out at the same time as Phoenix 0.5 gets out.
See here
> phoenix absolutely SMOKES any browser I have ever seen, by a very, very long shot.
really? lynx, links, w3m, dillo, and elinks all seem to be much faster.