Bzzzzzt. Sorry, try again. Where in the world did you hear that load of hogwash? Heel/toe, by whatever other name you want to call it, is, and always has been, a process of downshifting. What you describe is a form of suspension control, a commonly used technique for weight shifting. One might wonder how long you have been driving to think it is something new and "superior".. much less think it is what is universally known as heel/toe (driving, shifting, braking.. it's all the same thing).
I'm just guessing that you are completely unaware that heel/toe driving is only necessary if one also actually has a clutch? By asserting that heel/toe is useful in GT would then by default assert that you have a clutch in GT which you do not. Therefore I can conclude that you are, indeed, talking about something which you do not understand.
Oops.. looks like you missed the beginning of Atlantis.. so... NEXT!
4. They travel through the parallel universe mirror and find a situation where they have discovered large, living ships which have developed a symbiotic relationship with another species as a traveling companion and pilot....
Yeah... don't know about anybody else, but I still miss Farscape something fierce.:/
"OK, so what is the last desktop app that you've seen that is innovative by those standards?"
Hmm, that's a toughie.. and there is a reason for that. MS is the number one stifler of innovation in the commercial market by trying to claim everything as their own. As for real innovators, I'd be hard put to do better than WhiteWolf did, but I can add this. If you are an innovator, that means you bring something new and refreshing to the table, change the paradigm, way of thinking - way of working, instead of simply refining something that already exists (to put it simply, and yes it seems that it is hard to find where to draw the line there). I can safely say that re-wording an error message, and tweaking the aa on your fonts is NOT new and refreshing on the technology front, much less something that should be held up for the world to see and proclaimed "innovative". I have no prob with "new and improved" but do not try to bait and switch by calling it an innovation.
As an attempt at an answer to your question, I think the most innovative ideas I ever saw in desktop apps would be pretty much anything that Kai Kraus touched such as Kai's power tools and Bryce (yeah, you either love them or hate them.. but such is not the discusion ATM)... and, a much older innovation that I'm waiting for MS to try and snatch up, that zoom scroller on the side of the window in Irix. I can even see them trying to snap up little niceties, like adding buttons in the window frame ala window blinds, for things like your text editor, calculator and media controls. Take my word for it, when that happens it's not new, it's been done.
The best I can figure about all of this hooey about innovation is that, at the end of the day, if it's something you've seen before (way, WAY before), it's kinda hard to call it innovative. MS seems to have a bad habit of labeling anything that is new to their product as innovative, regardles of how many times, or how long ago, we've seen either the exact same thing, or something extremely similar to the point that their innovation has, for all intents and purposes, been familiar to many of us for many years (which somewhat snuffs the impact of something that should be new, right?). I mean, some history for perspective, ok? Microsoft "innovates" with long file names. Um.. nope, I used long file names years prior to that and was so happy that they were finally moving into the present. How can something like that be considered an innovation and not playing catch-up instead? Because saying it's innovative sounds so much better than saying "um yeah, we finally added this feature". Microsoft "innovates" with Bob. Well, ok. I'll give them that one.:) It seems to me that the public does not particularly like innovation (witness Bob.. lol). People fear change. Therefore it is easier to use the word "innovation" as a buzzword, losing it's very definition in the process, as a sales bullet on your latest shiny thing... "Our new Chrome toasters have an innovative double wide slot design!" (see how easy that is?).
"Not to sound trollish nor to apologize for MS bringing little new to the table but it's a tired argument that if someone takes something old, puts a new spin to it and finds acceptance than that person has created anything new, but rather stole from others."
No worries on that, but I do firmly believe that something such as that should be called something like "new in this edition" or some such rather than trying to masquerade around as a true innovation as that simply does the real innovators no justice whatsoever.
BTW, you seriously lost me with the Zep vs PJ rant... did PJ do a Zep tribute tour or something? All hail the tribal drum circles.
"Scoble responds that Microsoft's innovation can be found in the little things: 'I remember when they improved the error messages you get in Internet Explorer, or when they improved fonts in Windows with ClearType technology."
These are NOT innovations, in *any* way, shape or form. They are product polishing. It seems that the only way MS have innovated is by creating their own definition of "innovation" to suit themselves (hmm.. this seems to be a recurring thing with them), and brainwashed the media to make it come true.
"I apologize, though, if I'm breaking your compartmentalization/judgement scheme."
That's cool though, you fit right here in the compartment with me:D. We can wait for Halo 3 together. Old skoolers moving into the future, waiting on our new game.
Thanks for reminding me about Descent.. man, the times we used to stay at work till 10 at night playing that.. it's the game that showed me how much fun lan gaming is. I still have my 3d orb buried in a box somewhere, along with all my old thrustmaster joysticks and throttles for Mech Warrior and flight sims.
It is just as easy as setting up as was described, 4 tv's, 4 xboxes, some cat5, and the amount of controlers equal to the amount of available warm bodies up to a total of 16. More warm bodies optional to be hot-swapped as required.
This is surely easier than finding space in your abode to stick 16 pc's.
And then there are those of us who *were* into pc gaming when FPS were just beginning to walk and witnessed Id's rise to glory in the age of Wolf 3d, and have still come to see the light that is Halo. Went through Doom, Quake, DN3d, Golden Eye etc.. etc.. then became totally bored with more of the same over the years. Halo re-awakened my love for the game, with it's overall appeal, the combination of story, music (yes to me that is a very important part.. and the music in Halo is second to NONE) and the sheer fun of it's gameplay has me begging for more. I must say that I am happy that it is on console, as I have come to find that the couch and a bigscreen with friends is a much more comfortable gaming environment than the solitary one of my pc work area.
I know I would have. The movie is not NEARLY as interesting as watching someones actual game session. (yeah, I tried to watch it again today, and fell asleep.. AGAIN)
So, welcome to the 0.5% of us (and that might well be stretching it even then) that can do so. What about the other 99.5%? You know, the ones that don't know the diff between pci-e and agp.
Breaking news.. It IS that hard for the vast majority of users. This is how large scale PC manufacturers, not to mention small build shops, are able to exist.
I find it hard to accept the fact that the 7600GT got the spot for $175 with no mention of the 6800GS (and don't give me any talk about "obsolete" when the 6600 is in there). The 6800GS spanks the 7600GT to the tune of a 256bit bus throwing 32GB/s versus 128bit bus pushing 22.4GB/s. See here... http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?p=2400829
If somebody could tell me why the 7600GT is more deserving, I'd like to hear it... and yes, I'll take the card that's a bit more power hungry for almost a 30% increase in performance any day.
"I was dissapointed with the game ended, because. ..well, it ended. Jeezum Crow! Where can I go to buy more of this thing? I have money. Please; take it from me!"
The cry of Halo players worldwide can be heard here. Quotable. Thanks:).
Maybe your adventure in SL was tainted due to the places you evidently went to if you were surrounded by people having sex. I have found more than enough to keep me busy for a long time without resorting to things I can do in RL.
Note that the network setting is for upstream, not downstream, so if you maxed it out at 1k you're going to experience severe packet loss. Cut it back to 256 or less. It will give you much better performance when it's actually able to talk smoothly.
"my first (and only) $250 went to buy a t-shirt that said 'you all suck' on it, of course, I didn't get that.. I instead got a big 'box' hat that covered my little character and said 'sucker' on all sides.
So not only can you SHOP online, but you can get ripped off online too."
So not only were you just a passer-by, but you didn't even take the time to learn how to remove stuff from boxes, and wore the box instead of its contents. Yeah, you really know your stuff.
How 'bout we do.. since the poster above you said "players" and not "avatars" he is talking about the person behind the computer. If you want to talk about avatars, if you have EVER been in SL you would know that most of them are female.. certainly much MUCH more than 50%... but if you were to actually get to know anybody in game, I know that it seems that there are actually more females than males behind the keyboard. SL attracts female users. This much we know as fact. It's the Sims taken to a different level lol.
I hear a lot of that.. that there is a lack of mens clothing. I would like to know what guys would like to see available? I mean, throw me a bone and I'll see about getting some stuff done:).
BTW.. for the best eyes in SL check out DarkSkye Designs in Neverwhere.
Yes, you interact with 3d objects in the same way you would interact with 3d objects in a standalone modeling package. The subset of tools available is just much smaller, which forces you to be even more creative with your work. You learn to do more with less. As far as your quip about coding.. I'll just guess you've not done any scripting with the platform. So no, it's not "industry accepted applications" (well, unless you do clothing/skin/texture design where most use photoshop), that does not make it any less work.
Figuring out what people will buy, and then how to make and market it, is very MUCH work. By any definition of the term.
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Bzzzzzt. Sorry, try again. Where in the world did you hear that load of hogwash? Heel/toe, by whatever other name you want to call it, is, and always has been, a process of downshifting. What you describe is a form of suspension control, a commonly used technique for weight shifting. One might wonder how long you have been driving to think it is something new and "superior".. much less think it is what is universally known as heel/toe (driving, shifting, braking.. it's all the same thing).
Please don't tell me you brake with your *heel*. >
Just in case you are serious.. before you break your ankle.. you are supposed to brake with your toes, and have your heel on the gas.
I'm just guessing that you are completely unaware that heel/toe driving is only necessary if one also actually has a clutch? By asserting that heel/toe is useful in GT would then by default assert that you have a clutch in GT which you do not. Therefore I can conclude that you are, indeed, talking about something which you do not understand.
Oops.. looks like you missed the beginning of Atlantis.. so... NEXT!
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4. They travel through the parallel universe mirror and find a situation where they have discovered large, living ships which have developed a symbiotic relationship with another species as a traveling companion and pilot.
Yeah... don't know about anybody else, but I still miss Farscape something fierce.
"OK, so what is the last desktop app that you've seen that is innovative by those standards?"
:) It seems to me that the public does not particularly like innovation (witness Bob.. lol). People fear change. Therefore it is easier to use the word "innovation" as a buzzword, losing it's very definition in the process, as a sales bullet on your latest shiny thing... "Our new Chrome toasters have an innovative double wide slot design!" (see how easy that is?).
Hmm, that's a toughie.. and there is a reason for that. MS is the number one stifler of innovation in the commercial market by trying to claim everything as their own. As for real innovators, I'd be hard put to do better than WhiteWolf did, but I can add this. If you are an innovator, that means you bring something new and refreshing to the table, change the paradigm, way of thinking - way of working, instead of simply refining something that already exists (to put it simply, and yes it seems that it is hard to find where to draw the line there). I can safely say that re-wording an error message, and tweaking the aa on your fonts is NOT new and refreshing on the technology front, much less something that should be held up for the world to see and proclaimed "innovative". I have no prob with "new and improved" but do not try to bait and switch by calling it an innovation.
As an attempt at an answer to your question, I think the most innovative ideas I ever saw in desktop apps would be pretty much anything that Kai Kraus touched such as Kai's power tools and Bryce (yeah, you either love them or hate them.. but such is not the discusion ATM)... and, a much older innovation that I'm waiting for MS to try and snatch up, that zoom scroller on the side of the window in Irix. I can even see them trying to snap up little niceties, like adding buttons in the window frame ala window blinds, for things like your text editor, calculator and media controls. Take my word for it, when that happens it's not new, it's been done.
The best I can figure about all of this hooey about innovation is that, at the end of the day, if it's something you've seen before (way, WAY before), it's kinda hard to call it innovative. MS seems to have a bad habit of labeling anything that is new to their product as innovative, regardles of how many times, or how long ago, we've seen either the exact same thing, or something extremely similar to the point that their innovation has, for all intents and purposes, been familiar to many of us for many years (which somewhat snuffs the impact of something that should be new, right?). I mean, some history for perspective, ok? Microsoft "innovates" with long file names. Um.. nope, I used long file names years prior to that and was so happy that they were finally moving into the present. How can something like that be considered an innovation and not playing catch-up instead? Because saying it's innovative sounds so much better than saying "um yeah, we finally added this feature". Microsoft "innovates" with Bob. Well, ok. I'll give them that one.
"Not to sound trollish nor to apologize for MS bringing little new to the table but it's a tired argument that if someone takes something old, puts a new spin to it and finds acceptance than that person has created anything new, but rather stole from others."
No worries on that, but I do firmly believe that something such as that should be called something like "new in this edition" or some such rather than trying to masquerade around as a true innovation as that simply does the real innovators no justice whatsoever.
BTW, you seriously lost me with the Zep vs PJ rant... did PJ do a Zep tribute tour or something? All hail the tribal drum circles.
"Scoble responds that Microsoft's innovation can be found in the little things: 'I remember when they improved the error messages you get in Internet Explorer, or when they improved fonts in Windows with ClearType technology."
These are NOT innovations, in *any* way, shape or form. They are product polishing. It seems that the only way MS have innovated is by creating their own definition of "innovation" to suit themselves (hmm.. this seems to be a recurring thing with them), and brainwashed the media to make it come true.
Startup sound on login is not Linux starting up. It is the desktop environment starting. Gnome and KDE are not Linux.
Yes, and that is not the OS starting up, that is Gnome (or on other systems, their WM that has system sounds) starting up. Gnome!=OS
"I apologize, though, if I'm breaking your compartmentalization/judgement scheme."
:D. We can wait for Halo 3 together. Old skoolers moving into the future, waiting on our new game.
That's cool though, you fit right here in the compartment with me
Thanks for reminding me about Descent.. man, the times we used to stay at work till 10 at night playing that.. it's the game that showed me how much fun lan gaming is. I still have my 3d orb buried in a box somewhere, along with all my old thrustmaster joysticks and throttles for Mech Warrior and flight sims.
It is just as easy as setting up as was described, 4 tv's, 4 xboxes, some cat5, and the amount of controlers equal to the amount of available warm bodies up to a total of 16. More warm bodies optional to be hot-swapped as required.
This is surely easier than finding space in your abode to stick 16 pc's.
And then there are those of us who *were* into pc gaming when FPS were just beginning to walk and witnessed Id's rise to glory in the age of Wolf 3d, and have still come to see the light that is Halo. Went through Doom, Quake, DN3d, Golden Eye etc.. etc.. then became totally bored with more of the same over the years. Halo re-awakened my love for the game, with it's overall appeal, the combination of story, music (yes to me that is a very important part.. and the music in Halo is second to NONE) and the sheer fun of it's gameplay has me begging for more. I must say that I am happy that it is on console, as I have come to find that the couch and a bigscreen with friends is a much more comfortable gaming environment than the solitary one of my pc work area.
I know I would have. The movie is not NEARLY as interesting as watching someones actual game session. (yeah, I tried to watch it again today, and fell asleep.. AGAIN)
"One of the most annoying things was having to click "yes" to all the objects you get offered, kinda ruins the flow somewhat."
Wow, I guess now we know who to blame for spreading all the email viruses now, don't we?
So, welcome to the 0.5% of us (and that might well be stretching it even then) that can do so. What about the other 99.5%? You know, the ones that don't know the diff between pci-e and agp.
Breaking news.. It IS that hard for the vast majority of users. This is how large scale PC manufacturers, not to mention small build shops, are able to exist.
Ok, I see that it's benchmarking higher.. still no answer as to why.
I find it hard to accept the fact that the 7600GT got the spot for $175 with no mention of the 6800GS (and don't give me any talk about "obsolete" when the 6600 is in there). The 6800GS spanks the 7600GT to the tune of a 256bit bus throwing 32GB/s versus 128bit bus pushing 22.4GB/s.9
See here...
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?p=240082
If somebody could tell me why the 7600GT is more deserving, I'd like to hear it... and yes, I'll take the card that's a bit more power hungry for almost a 30% increase in performance any day.
Yes, I have a few. Are you too young to remember them?
"I was dissapointed with the game ended, because. . .well, it ended. Jeezum Crow! Where can I go to buy more of this thing? I have money. Please; take it from me!"
:).
The cry of Halo players worldwide can be heard here. Quotable. Thanks
Maybe your adventure in SL was tainted due to the places you evidently went to if you were surrounded by people having sex. I have found more than enough to keep me busy for a long time without resorting to things I can do in RL.
Note that the network setting is for upstream, not downstream, so if you maxed it out at 1k you're going to experience severe packet loss. Cut it back to 256 or less. It will give you much better performance when it's actually able to talk smoothly.
"my first (and only) $250 went to buy a t-shirt that said 'you all suck' on it, of course, I didn't get that .. I instead got a big 'box' hat that covered my little character and said 'sucker' on all sides.
So not only can you SHOP online, but you can get ripped off online too."
So not only were you just a passer-by, but you didn't even take the time to learn how to remove stuff from boxes, and wore the box instead of its contents. Yeah, you really know your stuff.
How 'bout we do.. since the poster above you said "players" and not "avatars" he is talking about the person behind the computer. If you want to talk about avatars, if you have EVER been in SL you would know that most of them are female.. certainly much MUCH more than 50%... but if you were to actually get to know anybody in game, I know that it seems that there are actually more females than males behind the keyboard. SL attracts female users. This much we know as fact. It's the Sims taken to a different level lol.
I hear a lot of that.. that there is a lack of mens clothing. I would like to know what guys would like to see available? I mean, throw me a bone and I'll see about getting some stuff done :).
BTW.. for the best eyes in SL check out DarkSkye Designs in Neverwhere.
Yes, you interact with 3d objects in the same way you would interact with 3d objects in a standalone modeling package. The subset of tools available is just much smaller, which forces you to be even more creative with your work. You learn to do more with less. As far as your quip about coding.. I'll just guess you've not done any scripting with the platform. So no, it's not "industry accepted applications" (well, unless you do clothing/skin/texture design where most use photoshop), that does not make it any less work.
Figuring out what people will buy, and then how to make and market it, is very MUCH work. By any definition of the term.
Torrent of what? You can join SL for free.