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New Stargate Series In the Works
Skythe writes "Gateworld reports that an exclusive, third Stargate series is in the works: 'The new series is in the concept phase, and is being actively worked on by the Vancouver creatives behind Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis. No concept for the show has yet been revealed.'
Gateworld also reports despite the cancellation of SG-1, the series is likely for a 2007 debut. I wonder if the direct-to-dvd movies will any influence on the new series, and what the concept behind the show will be?"
...oh thank god.
. . . as long as it doesn't involve either (a) a prequel to Stargate SG-1, (b) aliens with big, floppy ears and a jamaican accent, (c) weird time travel/space-time continuum plot lines, or (d) William Shatner!
Then frankly I wont care too much what the show concept is, it will be watched regardless.
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You know, they should totally make a Stargate movie! That would be awesome!
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...it is better than Atlantis, even at this stage of its lifespan. The third series better be darn good. Fridays are now totally boring on tv, save for discovery channel.
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Why don't they just acknowledge that SG1 is essentially a new Stargate series and just keep it going?
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I, for one, welcome our new inter-dimensional overlords. Or something.
:) I'm kind of disappointed about the alleged "stargate universe" reboot in the rumored sequel, considering that SG-1 picked up fairly nicely from where the original movie left off. It should be entertaining, in any event.
Given the production quality of SG-1 and Atlantis, I'm looking forward to any new Stargate series that comes out.
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From what I read in the original article is that it's not likely to be rushed to replace SG-1, but that a 2008 premiere is more likely.
It's got the inevitable inconsistencies, mostly with the movie. I don't even want to guess at physics problem.
This is a good thing, and I like the show the way it is -- I like that Daniel Jackson doesn't have to spend the first half hour of every show cracking a new alien language -- but still, it might be good to officially reboot it.
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can someone rate it for me? say, on a scale between 1 (farscape) and 10 (the new battlestar)?
Another sub-par science fiction show with absolutely no substance or reason to watch. I can't wait for the predicatble plot lines and the one-dimensional archetypes that will make up the dramatis personnae. LEt me guess, there will be an irritable, gung-ho, military-style commander, some kind of socially dysfunctional scientist with expertise in any and all disciplines as called for in the script, some kind strong, independant woman, and an alien.
I can't wait to choose my costume for the con where I'll be able to nitpick the cast on small issues with continuity because the plots are so thin I can't ignore them.
Why can't somebody come up with something more orignal than yet another spin-off from an already crappy show that is itself a spin-off of a crappy movie?
Why not another Star Trek? Oh wait, with some minor modifcations, Stargate is Star Trek.
Sci-fi can be any genre now - western (serenity), brooding drama (Battlestar Galactica), kids' show with puppets (all those Anakin movies.) Will the new incarnation have the same horrible acting that the old ones did - the sci fi equivalent of the poorly-scripted comedy that came on at 730 before the real thing came on at 8? Dear Sci Fi Channel producers: you CAN have a show that's good, and also not have it compete with your flagship Galactica. Please hire some actors / writers who can do more than make me cringe while I wait for Jamie Bamber and Caprica Six to show up.
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Now if we could just get them to put Firefly back on the air. :)
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Immediately upon the arrival of the expeditionary team, modelled after the UN team but this time once again just American, the leaders of the expedition will find themselves whisked away to meet super-dooper Ascended beings, which the Ascended beings previously only suspected the existence of (not that they bothered to tell us), and make the Ascended beings look like tiny, wimpy children. One look at our gruff military hero with his background of killing and hitting and breaking and just generally, you know, surviving in our rough-and-tumble universe will convince our Super-Dooper Ascended beings that they really ought to consider pruning our entire multiverse due to excessive violence (since they, in their Super-Dooper Ascended state, haven't faced a threat to their existence in seventy-three trillion billion years, so they have totally forgotten what that's like), thus setting off a frantic five-season story arc to convince the Super-Dooper Ascended beings to not destroy us, or, failing all else, could you consider just destroying the Ori?
If we're lucky, our heros will fail. *smirk*
I like Stargate. I'd even say I like it a lot. But it was already a bit implausible that Our Heros could beat the Gua'uld. Not impossible, perhaps, given the Gua'ulds cultural weaknesses and their basic inability to band together meaningfully, but implausible. Taking on Ascended beings is just utterly unbelievable, and also has the problem of that basically being it. There's nothing above Ascended beings, really. Even if there is, it wouldn't really matter to us; how would we really distinguish between Ascended beings and my Super-Dooper Ascended, considering that Ascended beings already seem to possess the ability to throw us into an arbitrary simulation if they so chose? There really is no power above that from the human point of view; Ascended beings do not seem to be what you might call Gods of the Universe but they are basically Gods over individual material beings, able to fully control their minds, senses, etc.
I'm not sure Stargate needs a full re-boot in the comic book or the "Enterprise" sense, but they need to sit down and rethink what they want to be about: Do they want to be another Star Trek, which is where they are headed in many ways? Do they really need to have a Single Overarching Threat, especially given that they've basically maxed out that story line? Do they really want to become Yet Another Time Travel Show, which they've so far mostly managed to avoid but are in immanent danger of being sucked into that black hole? There's still a lot of interesting stories to be told, but only if they change some of their story arc templates.
And what is it about space exploration shows that inevitably turns them into space warfare shows?
What about Stargate Infinity?
This is the most blatant attempt to ignore a cartoon series' futuristic, nonsensical storyline since Highlander: The Animated Series.
I've heard that they may try to simultaneously (or at least in scarily close succession) make a spinoff movie for SG1 and make a sequel to the original movie... as if they were two completely separate things. Which, if you look at the turns that SG1 has made, isn't too far from the truth.
Every week they travel to unimaginable worlds, meet (and kill) new people, then write about it on their SG blogs ...
Wake me if Claudia Black shows up.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Can we please please please not have another jarring character like McKay like in Stargate: Atlantis? Not only is he completely over-the-top antisocial, but he seems to make everyone around him lose any sense of tact that they might otherwise have had.
And that formula of having McKay/Carter start explaining the technical details of something, only to be interrupted by the superior officer who doesn't understand the jargon, is getting very very tired. Please kill it.
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I would not be surprised if they did an alternate reality or sequel to SG-1 series where Canada gets a gate, since that's where it's made and that's where a lot of the people who work on it are from. As long as it's got furry little Furlongs that look like the Ewoks' cousins, I'll be happy!
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Looks like Stargate is out to compete with Star Trek for the most spinoffs ever.
Someone told me there is another Rocky movie on the way -- I guess if you're going to do one, it has to be soon, eh? Now if Cheech Marin and Tommy Chong would only stop procrastinating... :)
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Seriously, of all the villains, he is the one I really like. OK, doesn't have to be the early years, I want to see Cliff Simon playing the character. But showing the other side of the fence could be interesting.
IMHO, of course.
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Most sci-fi on TV is garbage. Most TV is garbage, but the small amount of science fiction on there is conspicuously bad. For every Next Generation or Twilight Zone, there are dozens of Stargate Atlantis's and worse.
Why are people hoping that it will be better than Enterprise? Instead, why not hope that it does for science fiction what Deadwood did for the western. Or why not wish that it was better than, say, the Simpsons? Aiming low, which is what the Sci-Fi Channel does anyway, will only get you more junk.
Usually, when a new scifi series is announced these days, it revolves around a post-9/11 plotline, whereby the heroes are having to cope with authorities who are hyper-repressive and militaristic, creating a danger of trampling upon the noble and misunderstood underdog victims.
They can REALLY take the Stargate universe places. I'd like to see some MASSIVE intergalactic war or something, with some way out there technologies and aliens that look in NO WAY humanoid. /rabid stargate fan
Lets go Stargate! Impress me again!
During the ten seasons, the SG1 team has managed to piss off a lot of people, both on Earth and other places, and I don't mean just the Goa'uld. There's enough loose ends out there to weave together to create a practical united foe against SGC/Earth. For instance, what if someone survived from Euronda, joined up with some guys (The Trust or not - it would be interesting for us to find out what schisms happened within the NID/Trust/etc) who had become stranded off earth when using the second gate (i.e. we find out that O'Neill's double-crossing didn't clean up the whole nest of them), and manage to bust Loki out of whatever jail the Asgard are holding him in. Maybe they do some commerce with Ba'al. I'd love to see this, but it would become really confusing for people who haven't followed the series for ten years, unless it is very carefully written. This is in fact something I could do. I am available for hire :)
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Mod parent down; this is the plot summary for the failed cartoon spinoff Stargate Infinity.
Gateworld reports that an exclusive, third Stargate series is in the works
In what way is it exclusive? Perhaps it excludes plot, character development, and good writing?
The new series is in the concept phase
OK...
and is being actively worked on by the Vancouver creatives behind Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis
Stop. Back up. What the hell is a "creative"? In my dictionary that's an adjective, not a noun. Nounizing adjectives is almost as bad as verbifying nouns...
No concept for the show has yet been revealed
which must be a tricky thing, since it is in the "concept phase". I think I'll wait for the "being phase" (assuming it gets the green light), or the "nothingness phase" (assuming it doesn't), before deciding that this is worthy of attention.
the series is likely for a 2007 debut
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So theyve had Altantis, where they live on an alien base next door to the only worm hole which takes them to a place far away, so I guess next they must get lost and have to find home while adopting a hot replicator chick and finding a new drive but not being able to use it till they get home after that episode with geordi.
So I wonder where they will base their operations. At Stargate Command? They already have a series in production which was supposed to be different to SG1. Will this new series be cut off from Earth again or will they operate from Earth HQ?
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Or some other type of series, based on the same idea of the Stargate but happening "back then when Goa'uld ruled the planets, and did the infighting, and were getting Jaffa to turn into their servants" and so on and so forth? Like Xena in Space with Goa'uld? :)
Because most of other "reboots" would be more like a soft reset with similar crews and directions
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Actually, I always thought a spin-off of Stargate based on the campy "Wormhole Xtreme" series used in the show could offer some interesting possibilities. Granted it might only last a season at most, but Sci-Fi could easily polish it up to something on the level of their cheesy low-budget movies they show every couple weeks.
For example, instead using of a military trained crew, they could have a completely random set of civilians who accidentally become unwitting participants, ala Sliders, where they have to contend with both each other and each world they end up on. It could also play on the campy nature of various sci-fi shows from the 1960s-1980s (like Star Trek: TOS or the original Battlestar Galactica), where things just work out for no reason other than to advance the plot.
It'd be a nice break from the mind-numbing geek speak of Amanda Tapping/Micheal Shanks characters. It's just walk into a problem specific to the episode, fixing it and returning, only to start again next week.
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Just show Lexx reruns instead.
So get them all meeting somewhere in N Space: Next Gen, Farscape, Babylon 4 and 5, Kirk, Star Gate, Dr Who, DS9, Voyager. Lexx, The Fat guy from Lost, Quark, Heart of Gold and Zaphod, R2D2, The Cheddite Cheese Projector and the Bloater Drive and all those others that I've missed and just have it out in ONE BIG GIANT HUMONGOUS series where good vs evil with Mel Gibson doing the dialogue so no-one understands each other (except R2D2, Babel Fish, the characters of Lost In Space), all following the prime directive with idiotic, moronic Federation morality while the Shadows blast them all into subatomic particles that eventually coalesce into another one of those Big Bangs....
And this time I want to be reincarnated into something completely different!
Don't be apathetic. Procrastinate!
- Stargate: Voyager
- Stargate: Sliders
- Stargate: Quantum Leap
- Stargate: Farscape
- Stargate: Land of the Lost
Now that they are launching a third series, I have some more suggestions:Maybe Gateworld or /. is confused.
SciFi dropped the show this fall but the 2007 season was already planned to air on SciFi. It was already a done deal.
It's the "what happens after 2007" part that has all the question marks.
and its called ...
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it won't be an OC-like spinoff like that part in the 200th episode. That would suck.
The Stargate team encounters a powerful new enemy known as the 'Cylons'. When things start to look bleak for Earth, they are aided by a mysterious space / time traveler in a British police box.
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The following is quoted from www.GateWorld.net:
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"Following the success of the 1994 film "Stargate," Stargate SG-1 debuted in 1997, and spun off Stargate Atlantis in 2004. The two shows return to SCI FI Channel in the U.S. with new episodes in April. The spring run of 10 episodes each will mark the series finale of SG-1, and the third season finale of Atlantis.
Stargate Atlantis returns for its fourth season later in 2007.
Meanwhile, SG-1 will continue with two movies, presumably direct-to-DVD, currently aiming for a fall 2007 release."
http://www.gateworld.net/news/2006/12/exclusive_t
Puleeze.. SG1 was NOT that good. Atlantis is worse.
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If they think they can run two series at the same time, I am all
for it.
The series so far have hinged on the gate remaining a secret to the
general populace. Perhaps they should jump ahead to a time when the
general populace first "gets" space travel and access to the gate and ships.
There would be a lot of problems. People often want to do things
they arent ready for yet. There would be turf wars as people competed
for prime locations on other planets. Clashes with natives. Opening
various pandora's boxen. Political tensions as the wave of earthers
hits the galaxy. The SG teams could be like rescue rangers getting
silly colonists out of problems and dealing with various hostilities.
Just an idea....
Wasn't the show based on a movie anyways....so they come around full circle. I havent seen an episode yet that was original, even if this is my favorite show on tv at the moment. There is a parallel episode for each one from Star Trek... and I guess now they are considering the movies as well, seeing as the other guys did it. I got to say they were clever in re utilizing all the star trek episodes and giving them a new twist, the replicators = the borg etc...but the main focus of the show was the team. Richard Dean Anderson was my fav and now that he has cut ties with stargate I feel no need to watch it further, although I guess if there is nothing else at the movies I will pay to see that one!
It may have been unwatchable children's drek, but there was an animated Stargate: Infinity as well as the current two shows.
Then, I can guess that most language you've learned are :
: :
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- Using alphabets for writing (as opposed to ideograph or syllable writing systems).
- Maybe even using some form of latin alphabet (as opposed to greek or cyrillic)
Reading is the most easy for you because you're quite familar with the symbols used to write language. The written form of words is the only thing that is actually new to you. Your eyes and your brain is already accustomed to the shape of most letters your going to encounter (you obviously are accustomed to latin alphabet, and maybe cyrillic and greek aren't too alien for you). If you had to start to learn chinese, Korean (with its very own concept of "alphabet disguised as a syllabary"), japanesse (OMG !!! 3 different writing systems !), old egyptian (Hieroglyphs), old Sumerian (Cuneiform), alternate forms to write old Greek (Linear B wasn't even designed to encode greek words), old bulgarian (using Glagolitic) old Mayan (no, no. these aren't complexe beautiful painting, they are writings), reading won't be that easy, because you'll have to put up with a completly new writing system, that doesn't look like anything you're used to.
SG happen to describe a universe where most human cultures were kept to a more ancient and primitive form.
Most old real-life human civilisation had mostly an oral tradition, people spoke much more than they wrote those language. Being illiterate was quite common and normal. Writing was only a small very specialised job done by specifically trained people/slaves (scribes). Both because of it and in consequence of it, writing wasn't a practical simple system, but a very complex one, with thousands of different symbols. Language of similar linguistic groups may use completly different writing system (because of its complexity writing wasn't carried over by people over cultural evolution, but may have been reinvented adhoc when needed for very specific purposes) old greek is a good exemple (you have Linear B used during Mycenian times, then a long period of purely oral tradition, then the Greek alphabet being adopted). It's the opposite of modern situation (were Latin is the most pervasive form of writing and due to computer and internet popularity is even used in language that traditionally never used it : like romanji).
In the fictional universe of Stargate this may translate that only earthlings did evolve their writing systems into something practical and easy to learn (in the movie, writing was showed to be forbiden). Most other population may have kept a lot of different and complex writing, some of which aren't even alphabet but much bigger character sets (syllables or ideographs).
In which case, for a team to be able to communicate in the fictionnal SG universe
- for spoken language
they need to learn some basic words in most language. As language are supposed to be primitive, they're expected to speak different dialects of mostly old Indo-European language. This concretly could mean learning a dozen or so translation for most common words needed for basic communication. The rest is usually dialectal difference and can be completed with guess work as dialogue is going. (And as experience in other language accumulate this is becoming even easier). The actual barrier isn't as much the vocabulary as the potential social faux-pas that could exist in a fictionnal setting where culture and civilisation are scattered into a lot of small and separated sub-groups accross the galaxy.
- for written language
They would need to learn several writing systems, most of which consists of thousands of different symbols and unlike spoken language, can't be grouped into closely related groups. Also, when you're not sure about the meaning you can't just ask the text to explain it.
To make comparison with other fictionnal situations : You're m
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Battle Stargate Gallactica
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- Tagline: Cylons versus the Replicators
Babylon Stargate
- Tagline: There is a hole in your Stargate.
Stargate Extreme
- Tagline: It's what I do.
Quantum Stargate
- Tagline: Oh, boy
Any more?
...and what the concept behind the show will be?
I'm guessing it will involve a bunch of Air Force nerds who travel through a magic gate to other planets which all oddly resemble either California or British Coloumbia, and once there, do whatever the Star Trek crew did in whatever episode of Star Trek the script for this particular episode of the new Stargate was lifted from. And they'll throw in a popular nerd or two from some other nerdy show to ensure that nerds bother to watch.
Maybe the gate acts like the TARDIS, and emits a telepathic field that automatically translates the native language into the native language of the traveler and vic versa.
Of course, the gate can only translate verbal language and not written language like the TARDIS. That is a result of the Ancients not being as technologically advanced as the Time Lords.
That being said, I think the Doctor needs to get to the Pegasus Galaxy asap. They seem to have ZPM's and sense the Eye of Harmony doesn't work anymore (hence why the Doctor has to refuel the TARDIS from time to time) it could turn out to be useful. At the very least, he won't have to make continuous trips to Cardiff.
Hmmm, I wonder which provides more energy, an artificial black hole, or Zero Point Energy...
The SG teams could be like rescue rangers getting silly colonists out of problems and dealing with various hostilities.
But are they mighty? And do they morph?
The Halow invaded earth?
Methinks the ideas have long run out. But how would a writer come up with something to turn in.. I know, pretend to be starting a third series and leak the rumor to /. thousands of nerd will then make up all kinds of creative work that can be harnessed.
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One problem is that the characters and the actors playing them have grown so familiar with the Stargate universe as to rob the show of any sense of wonder or jeopardy. They've also grown too familiar with each other. Did anyone else notice during season eight that the cast started replacing dialogue with knowing glances? It's hard to stay interested in a show when its characters are disaffected and weary. Daniel Jackson, in particular, has transformed from a bright-eyed, humanitarian idealist into a snide, jaded, and wholly unlikeable jackass.
Another major problem is that the writers insist on injecting the show with unfunny humor. Compare early and later seasons in this regard. O'Neill admonishing Daniel not to speak metaphorically because it isn't fair to Teal'c: funny. Carter cheerily humming the Stargate theme in the SGC elevator: unfunny and cringe-inducing. I also don't understand why levity is regularly inserted at inappropriate times. It's hard to appreciate the gravity of a fictional situation when not even the characters in the situation take it seriously.
You mean how the Time War in Doctor Who got rid of both the Time Lords and the Daleks?
Damn, that is my third Doctor Who reference in three posts. Maybe I need to stop watching that show...
What is funny, both Stargate and BSG are shot in sound stages across the street from each other.. :)
Stargate Infinity is the story of veteran Stargate explorer Major Gus Bonner and a group of young Air Force Academy cadets. Wrongly accused of treason, they must flee across the universe
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Here in Canada the Space Channel stopped running Stargate halfway through the final season. No explanation whatsoever. I tuned in one night for an 'all new episode' and was most disturbed to find a re-run from a few years ago. Same thing the following week and the week after. I gave up. As I'm sure many others did. Canadian ratings would have plummeted because of Space prematurely cancelling the series before it was actually over. This effect of Space's action probably had a role in the decision to end the series.
Stargate has never been the same since. Space is running episodes from the last half of final season in dribs and drabs now, out of order, ruining the continuity.
Stargatus Interruptus.
No hottie engine mechanics, no pseudo-curse words, less capacity than Ipod.
Not Firefly. Lame.
Eh, you're not in the loop. There's more RDA on the show now than there's been for the last two seasons. :)
Rumor about the new series as been going on for over a year now, with some hints of that being based in a new galaxy (not the Milky Way, nor the Pegasus Galaxy). We'll see...
For me, Stargate has always been about explaining/spinning past religions. Sure, everybody loved the Goa'uld, and I always figured that was because few people worship or take seriously the ancient Greek/Roman gods, let alone the Egyptian ones. But now everybody hates the Ori? For me the Ori are the best, simply because SG-1 is tackling the ridiculousness of fundamentalist monotheistic religions of today!
It's absolutely crazy to me that since both the Muslim and Christian god are that of Abraham and Isaac, why the hell do we hate eachother so much? "My prophet/spin is right and yours is wrong" - ? That's nuts. And SG-1 is getting to the bottom of it. I love Daniel's monologues, and the clear paralellism between the Ori's fire believe-or-be-burned and God/Satan religious ridiculousness whereas the Ancients represent science and reason -- and whether people realize these symetries or not, NOBODY is rooting for the Ori and everybody is hoping the Ancients and the regular people get to live and be left alone -- which is at odds with what the majority of the US Christians believe and practice daily! For a show to accomplish something like this makes it great in my book.
Plus the character development was enough to hook two girls that I know. And they're separate, distinct, unique girls! I know that's pushing it for Slashdot to even know that many, but holy cow! Girls! Stargate! They actually like it! And it's sci-fi! Holy crap!
http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/?p=720 Shanks approached to star in 3rd Stargate series! "Now Stargate SG1 Solutions can exclusively reveal that SG1's Michael Shanks, who plays Dr. Daniel Jackson on the show, has already been approached to star in the third Stargate series! We were informed by a source close to the production that Shanks would be lead actor and Daniel Jackson the main character in the spinoff." So, the scoops aren't so exclusive anymore ;)
It will be interesting to see how some portions of fandom react to this tidbit.
This is still one thing that has not been used on star gate yet
Direct-to-dvd movies? Since when? This is the first I've heard of them.
Media that can be recorded and distributed can be recorded and distributed.
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> I think you'll find that the people in Japan actually speak that language, they didn't just invent it so that you could hear people talk funny in Anime.
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That's right, reuse the timeline! A new exciting series follows the exploits of SG2--visiting counless uninhabited worlds, filling out paperwork, cleaning up the base after SG1 messes it up. Great fun!
And Firefly, you know, can't get ONE damn season, much less any more TV time. And it's a far better series, seriously.
I mean, that is some seriously shitty science fiction. The first couple of seasons of SG1 were somewhat palatable, but the rest (and especially Atlantis) is just horrid, horrid tripe.
Just had to get that off my chest. It's a sad state of affairs for TV science fiction when the Stargates are considered some of the "better" shows.
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