If any of you go to the CompUSA in SF in the next day or two, observe the new PCs they have in their "AOL" section, by the PDAs. I quite serruptitiously changed the home page on several of them to goatse.cx.
When I was growing up, me and all my friends literally thought that Ozzy was the devil. Now that we're grown up, we know that he is merely a lieutenant to Satan.
Has he lost his mind?
Can he see or is he blind?
Can he walk at all
Or if he moves will he fall?
Is he 'live or dead?
(Has he / Icy) thoughts with in his head?
We'll just pass him there,
Why should we even care?
He was turned to steel
in the great magnetic field
When he traveled time
for the future of mankind
Nobody wants him;
He just stares at the world,
Planning his vengeance
that he will soon unfurl
Now the time is here
for Iron Man to spread fear,
Vengeance from the grave
kills the people he once saved
Nobody wants him;
They just turn their heads
Nobody helps him
now he has his revenge
Heavy boots of lead
fills his victims full of dread
Running as fast as they can,
Iron Man lives again
This is Slashdot, and the Open Source doublestandard is in full effect. Linus is only mentioned in conjunction with the good things (which there are very very few) about Linux. When he's involved with something bad his name isn't brought up.
Deep in your heart, you know you want your colon to be filled with his hot creamy manchowder. Surrender to temptation! His baby gravy is the best of all Slashtrolls.
While this job is equal to the mental abilities of most OpenSource developers, it would require them to leave their parents basement and interact with people, a task far beyond their abilities. Good try though.
Actually, I logged onto an old account and found it had mod points! So I modded you down as redundant instead of flamebait. I hope this was acceptable.
I liked you in Stand By Me. Perchance you could relate to us some of your homosexual antics amongst Jerry O'Donnel, River Phoenix and Corey Feldman. Is it true Keifer Sutherland goes both ways?
Gentlemen, the time has come for a serious discussion on whether or not to continue using C for serious programming projects. As I will explain, I feel that C needs to be retired, much the same way that Fortran, Cobol and Perl have been. Furthermore, allow me to be so bold as to suggest a superior replacement to this outdated language.
To give you a little background on this subject, I was recently asked to develop a client/server project on a Unix platform for a Fortune 500 company. While I've never coded in C before I have coded in VB for fifteen years, and in Java for over ten, I was stunned to see how poorly C fared compared to these two, more low-level languages.
C's biggest difficulty, as we all know, is the fact that it is by far one of the slowest languages in existance, especially when compared to more modern languages such as Java. Although the reasons for this are varied, the main reasons seems to be the way C requires a programmer to laboriously work with chunks of memory.
Requiring a programmer to manipulate blocks of memory is a tedious way to program. This was satisfactory back in the early days of coding, but then again, so were punchcards. By using what are called "pointers" a C programmer is basically requiring the computer to do three sets of work rather than one. The first time requires the computer to duplicate whatever is stored in the memory space "pointed to" by the pointer. The second time requires it to perform the needed operation on this space. Finally the computer must delete the duplicate set and set the values of the original accordingly.
Clearly this is a horrendous use of resources and the chief reason why C is so slow. When one looks at a more modern (and a more serious) programming language like Java or, even better, Visual Basic, that lacks such archaic coding styles, one will also note a serious speed increase over C.
So what does this mean for the programming community? I think clearly that C needs to be abandonded. There are two candidates that would be a suitable replacement for it. Those are Java and Visual Basic.
Having programmed in both for many years, I believe that VB has the edge. Not only is it slightly faster than Java its also much easier to code in. I found C to be confusing, frightening and intimidating with its non-GUI-based coding style. Furthermore, I like to see the source code of the projects I work with. Java's source seems to be under the monopolistic thumb of Sun much the way that GCC is obscured from us by the marketing people at the FSF. Microsoft's "shared source" under which Visual Basic is released definately seems to be the most fair and reasonable of all the licenses in existance, with none of the harsh restrictions of the BSD license. It also lacks the GPLs requirement that anything coded with its tools becomes property of the FSF.
I hope to see a switch to VB very soon. I've already spoken with various luminaries in the *nix coding world and most are eager to begin to transition. Having just gotten off the phone with Mr. Alan Cox, I can say that he is quite thrilled with the speed increases that will occur when the Linux kernel is completely rewritten in Visual Basic. Richard Stallman plans to support this, and hopes that the great Swede himself, Linus Torvaldis, won't object to renaming Linux to VB/Linux. Although not a C coder himself, I'm told that Slashdot's very own Admiral Taco will support this on his web site.
I work as a consultant for several fortune 500 companies, and I think I can shed a little light on the climate of the open source community at the moment. I believe that part of the reason that open source based startups are failing left and right is not an issue of marketing as it's commonly believed but more of an issue of the underlying technology.
I know that that's a strong statement to make, but I have evidence to back it up! At one of the major corps(5000+ employees) that I consult for, we wanted to integrate Linux into our server pool. The allure of not having to pay any restrictive licensing fees was too great to ignore. I reccomended the installation of several boxes running the new 2.4.9 kernel, and my hopes were high that it would perform up to snuff with the Windows 2k boxes which were(and still are!) doing an AMAZING job at their respective tasks of serving HTTP requests, DNS, and fileserving.
I consider myself to be very technically inclined having programmed in VB for the last 8 years doing kernel level programming. I don't believe in C programming because contrary to popular belief, VB can go just as low level as C and the newest VB compiler generates code that's every bit as fast. I took it upon myself to configure the system from scratch and even used an optimised version of gcc 3.1 to increase the execution speed of the binaries. I integrated the 3 machines I had configured into the server pool, and I'd have to say the results were less than impressive... We all know that linux isn't even close to being ready for the desktop, but I had heard that it was supposed to perform decently as a "server" based operating system. The 3 machines all went into swap immediately, and it was obvious that they weren't going to be able to handle the load in this "enterprise" environment. After running for less than 24 hours, 2 of them had experienced kernel panics caused by Bind and Apache crashing! Granted, Apache is a volunteer based project written by weekend hackers in their spare time while Microsft's IIS has an actual professional full fledged development team devoted to it. Not to mention the fact that the Linux kernel itself lacks any support for any type of journaled filesystem, memory protection, SMP support, etc, but I thought that since Linux is based on such "old" technology that it would run with some level of stability. After several days of this type of behaviour, we decided to reinstall windows 2k on the boxes to make sure it wasn't a hardware problem that was causing things to go wrong. The machines instantly shaped up and were seamlessly reintegrated into the server pool with just one Win2K machine doing more work than all 3 of the Linux boxes.
Needless to say, I won't be reccomending Linux/FSF to anymore of my clients. I'm dissappointed that they won't be able to leverege the free cost of Linux to their advantage, but in this case I suppose the old adage stands true that, "you get what you pay for." I would have also liked to have access to the source code of the applications that we're running on our mission critical systems; however, from the looks of it, the Microsoft "shared source" program seems to offer all of the same freedoms as the GPL.
As things stand now, I can understand using Linux in academia to compile simple "Hello World" style programs and learn C programming, but I'm afraid that for anything more than a hobby OS, Windows 98/NT/2K are your only choices.
Someone modded you down as Flamebait! Its clear that Slashdot is giving Steve Balmer mod points, and he's using them to censor views he disagrees with. Or maybe its Michael Simms. You can't really tell.
I usually shut my PC down at night, so the noise doesn't keep me awake. However, I've had it up and running for over a month before I shut it down for non-performance related issues.
The fact remains that Linux is not nearly as useful nor workable as Windows. Sure its nice if all you want it to do is sit quietly and run a DNS server. But I dare you to fire up a GUI and use it in day-to-day tasks like you would use a Windows workstation. I guarentee you that you'll see Linux is about as stable as a landslide.
I reckon that's the same troll that keeps on saying that Linux/BSD/WhatEverOS is dead. A total Windows biggot IMO
No, my troll is my own work, thankyouverymuch. And as for calling me a "Windows biggot" (I won't point out your mispelling of the word 'bigot', fucktard) I'd much rather use a working, stable OS that that turd of an operating system shat out by Linus.
it does, cockwhiff, but you never need use it. unlike that piece of shit OS called Linux. i guarentee you if you use a GUI for more than a half hour it *will* crash like a terrorist-controlled airplane and you'll have to switch to a lower runlevel to fix things. OSX doesn't have such issues because APPLE FUCKING OWNS YOU LIKE A FURBY!
Slashdot Mirror
If any of you go to the CompUSA in SF in the next day or two, observe the new PCs they have in their "AOL" section, by the PDAs. I quite serruptitiously changed the home page on several of them to goatse.cx.
:)
When you see them, think of me!
The porn uses of this are staggering. Now I can cyber-wank!!
The only thing that Taco likes to be exposed, is his wang when its in front of a bunch of second graders. Quite sick, really.
Do you like gladiator films? Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
When I was growing up, me and all my friends literally thought that Ozzy was the devil. Now that we're grown up, we know that he is merely a lieutenant to Satan.
Even though this is *not* a Jon Katz article, he still sucks.
Iron Man (5:47)
I am Iron Man!
Has he lost his mind?
Can he see or is he blind?
Can he walk at all
Or if he moves will he fall?
Is he 'live or dead?
(Has he / Icy) thoughts with in his head?
We'll just pass him there,
Why should we even care?
He was turned to steel
in the great magnetic field
When he traveled time
for the future of mankind
Nobody wants him;
He just stares at the world,
Planning his vengeance
that he will soon unfurl
Now the time is here
for Iron Man to spread fear,
Vengeance from the grave
kills the people he once saved
Nobody wants him;
They just turn their heads
Nobody helps him
now he has his revenge
Heavy boots of lead
fills his victims full of dread
Running as fast as they can,
Iron Man lives again
I suggest you come join Adaquecy.org immediately.
Good job keeping the first post out of the filthy hands of the AC. Troll Tuesday is going smashingly! I bow to you, Trolligula!
Deep in your heart, you know you want your colon to be filled with his hot creamy manchowder. Surrender to temptation! His baby gravy is the best of all Slashtrolls.
While this job is equal to the mental abilities of most OpenSource developers, it would require them to leave their parents basement and interact with people, a task far beyond their abilities. Good try though.
The German in me would love that. Are the diapers leather or latex?
Bravo on your .sig! Its one of the better ones that I've seen.
Actually, I logged onto an old account and found it had mod points! So I modded you down as redundant instead of flamebait. I hope this was acceptable.
Slashdot is much better when you're on mushrooms. Just ask the author of the parent post.
I liked you in Stand By Me. Perchance you could relate to us some of your homosexual antics amongst Jerry O'Donnel, River Phoenix and Corey Feldman. Is it true Keifer Sutherland goes both ways?
Don't worry. Once those mangy lice get near Matthew Perry's drug-infested body they'll die off.
http://www.adequacy.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/ 11/3/62815/2904
Good lord you need to get out more often man. Put down your calculators, shave off your Unix beard and go out into the Big Blue Room.
Gentlemen, the time has come for a serious discussion on whether or not to continue using C for serious programming projects. As I will explain, I feel that C needs to be retired, much the same way that Fortran, Cobol and Perl have been. Furthermore, allow me to be so bold as to suggest a superior replacement to this outdated language.
To give you a little background on this subject, I was recently asked to develop a client/server project on a Unix platform for a Fortune 500 company. While I've never coded in C before I have coded in VB for fifteen years, and in Java for over ten, I was stunned to see how poorly C fared compared to these two, more low-level languages.
C's biggest difficulty, as we all know, is the fact that it is by far one of the slowest languages in existance, especially when compared to more modern languages such as Java. Although the reasons for this are varied, the main reasons seems to be the way C requires a programmer to laboriously work with chunks of memory.
Requiring a programmer to manipulate blocks of memory is a tedious way to program. This was satisfactory back in the early days of coding, but then again, so were punchcards. By using what are called "pointers" a C programmer is basically requiring the computer to do three sets of work rather than one. The first time requires the computer to duplicate whatever is stored in the memory space "pointed to" by the pointer. The second time requires it to perform the needed operation on this space. Finally the computer must delete the duplicate set and set the values of the original accordingly.
Clearly this is a horrendous use of resources and the chief reason why C is so slow. When one looks at a more modern (and a more serious) programming language like Java or, even better, Visual Basic, that lacks such archaic coding styles, one will also note a serious speed increase over C.
So what does this mean for the programming community? I think clearly that C needs to be abandonded. There are two candidates that would be a suitable replacement for it. Those are Java and Visual Basic.
Having programmed in both for many years, I believe that VB has the edge. Not only is it slightly faster than Java its also much easier to code in. I found C to be confusing, frightening and intimidating with its non-GUI-based coding style. Furthermore, I like to see the source code of the projects I work with. Java's source seems to be under the monopolistic thumb of Sun much the way that GCC is obscured from us by the marketing people at the FSF. Microsoft's "shared source" under which Visual Basic is released definately seems to be the most fair and reasonable of all the licenses in existance, with none of the harsh restrictions of the BSD license. It also lacks the GPLs requirement that anything coded with its tools becomes property of the FSF.
I hope to see a switch to VB very soon. I've already spoken with various luminaries in the *nix coding world and most are eager to begin to transition. Having just gotten off the phone with Mr. Alan Cox, I can say that he is quite thrilled with the speed increases that will occur when the Linux kernel is completely rewritten in Visual Basic. Richard Stallman plans to support this, and hopes that the great Swede himself, Linus Torvaldis, won't object to renaming Linux to VB/Linux. Although not a C coder himself, I'm told that Slashdot's very own Admiral Taco will support this on his web site.
Thank you for your time. Happy coding.
Egg Troll
I work as a consultant for several fortune 500 companies, and I think I can shed a little light on the climate of the open source community at the moment. I believe that part of the reason that open source based startups are failing left and right is not an issue of marketing as it's commonly believed but more of an issue of the underlying technology.
I know that that's a strong statement to make, but I have evidence to back it up! At one of the major corps(5000+ employees) that I consult for, we wanted to integrate Linux into our server pool. The allure of not having to pay any restrictive licensing fees was too great to ignore. I reccomended the installation of several boxes running the new 2.4.9 kernel, and my hopes were high that it would perform up to snuff with the Windows 2k boxes which were(and still are!) doing an AMAZING job at their respective tasks of serving HTTP requests, DNS, and fileserving.
I consider myself to be very technically inclined having programmed in VB for the last 8 years doing kernel level programming. I don't believe in C programming because contrary to popular belief, VB can go just as low level as C and the newest VB compiler generates code that's every bit as fast. I took it upon myself to configure the system from scratch and even used an optimised version of gcc 3.1 to increase the execution speed of the binaries. I integrated the 3 machines I had configured into the server pool, and I'd have to say the results were less than impressive... We all know that linux isn't even close to being ready for the desktop, but I had heard that it was supposed to perform decently as a "server" based operating system. The 3 machines all went into swap immediately, and it was obvious that they weren't going to be able to handle the load in this "enterprise" environment. After running for less than 24 hours, 2 of them had experienced kernel panics caused by Bind and Apache crashing! Granted, Apache is a volunteer based project written by weekend hackers in their spare time while Microsft's IIS has an actual professional full fledged development team devoted to it. Not to mention the fact that the Linux kernel itself lacks any support for any type of journaled filesystem, memory protection, SMP support, etc, but I thought that since Linux is based on such "old" technology that it would run with some level of stability. After several days of this type of behaviour, we decided to reinstall windows 2k on the boxes to make sure it wasn't a hardware problem that was causing things to go wrong. The machines instantly shaped up and were seamlessly reintegrated into the server pool with just one Win2K machine doing more work than all 3 of the Linux boxes.
Needless to say, I won't be reccomending Linux/FSF to anymore of my clients. I'm dissappointed that they won't be able to leverege the free cost of Linux to their advantage, but in this case I suppose the old adage stands true that, "you get what you pay for." I would have also liked to have access to the source code of the applications that we're running on our mission critical systems; however, from the looks of it, the Microsoft "shared source" program seems to offer all of the same freedoms as the GPL.
As things stand now, I can understand using Linux in academia to compile simple "Hello World" style programs and learn C programming, but I'm afraid that for anything more than a hobby OS, Windows 98/NT/2K are your only choices.
thank you.
Someone modded you down as Flamebait! Its clear that Slashdot is giving Steve Balmer mod points, and he's using them to censor views he disagrees with. Or maybe its Michael Simms. You can't really tell.
I usually shut my PC down at night, so the noise doesn't keep me awake. However, I've had it up and running for over a month before I shut it down for non-performance related issues.
The fact remains that Linux is not nearly as useful nor workable as Windows. Sure its nice if all you want it to do is sit quietly and run a DNS server. But I dare you to fire up a GUI and use it in day-to-day tasks like you would use a Windows workstation. I guarentee you that you'll see Linux is about as stable as a landslide.
I reckon that's the same troll that keeps on saying that Linux/BSD/WhatEverOS is dead. A total Windows biggot IMO
No, my troll is my own work, thankyouverymuch. And as for calling me a "Windows biggot" (I won't point out your mispelling of the word 'bigot', fucktard) I'd much rather use a working, stable OS that that turd of an operating system shat out by Linus.
it does, cockwhiff, but you never need use it. unlike that piece of shit OS called Linux. i guarentee you if you use a GUI for more than a half hour it *will* crash like a terrorist-controlled airplane and you'll have to switch to a lower runlevel to fix things. OSX doesn't have such issues because APPLE FUCKING OWNS YOU LIKE A FURBY!