It's a lot of "take" and not much "give" on an international level, i.e. not at all open source (unless you take Microsoft's use of BSD code as "open source")
Why should we have a problem with this? The BSD license accepts this as a valid practice. If contributors have a problem with their code being repackaged and sold for profit, they should use the GPL.
I really don't think so. Recall the lawsuite that mp3.com lost. Their whole case was based on the fact that converting the music to mp3s and making it available to the user wherever they are was adding value to the music which was shot down when the court decided that simply converting the format of the music did not add value to it. I was sure I saw this - does anyone have an article to back this up? Besides last time I checked their are still legal provisions for home recordings keeping them legal, which is all Apple is really promoting - ; )
Acutally in the literal sense, wouldn't it be completely legal to Rip a song, Mix it up w/ some groovy beats and then Burn it to a cd for personal use or even to resell as you have added value to the material thereby making it legal to distribute. (I'm thinking Weird Al...)
Since when is it illegal to advertise for something that is illegal. A court case comes to mind where a man was convicted of placing an advertisement in Rolling Stone magazine under false pretenses. The ad read something to the effect of, "Good grass, $15." When a customer received a plot of grass (think your front lawn) in return for his $15 he sued and won.
It is not illegal to write music about doing drugs or committing crimes, why should it be any different in the realm of advertising?
Is it possible that 3 years down the road we will be looking at flash as a fad of the past? Like vrml and other technologies that were "Way cool!" in their day but got passed off when everyone realized that organizing information in an enviornment overly laced with multimedia isn't a very efficient means of doing things?
I think that it becomes a problem when the technology or in this case the way in which the information is presented overshadows the information itself. When this happens its only a matter of time before people get fed-up having to cut through all the gee-wiz crap to get the information they came for in the first place.
Man... and I thought Microsoft was making everyone out to be a moron with their progressivly ultra simplistic super think-you-not interface. A scary peek into the one-button world of the Macuser...
Calm down everyone! This is an age old cycle. High demand for realestate in SF = higher prices being charged for rent. Now that demand is down the prices are going to fall and new tenants will go there. Nothing to worry about so long as the government stays out of it and doesn't do something stupid with rentals like they did with utilities.
I think you're missing the point. The major factor in advancing democracy throughout the world is the same thing that you are so harshly criticizing. Our capitalistic ideals are what caused the fall of the Soviet Union and others and continue to plague oppressors world-wide. Free enterprise begets democracy because one cannot exist without the other. If we compromise the principles of our own profit driven economy by chastising corporations that would profit for providing a service or solution that is useful to others - whatever their intentions - would be detrimental to the spread of democracy throughout the world. Look at China - they know they are playing with fire as they become more capitalistic and try to participate in world trade on a free enterprise system, but they can't resist! The government's interest in the financial growth of their country is the only reason the internet is in China today and the only reason that Chinese citizens have a connection to the outside world. Remember, that is the only reason the internet is in Saudi Arabia. Do you think internet use would be allowed at all if the government was not provided with a means of filtering it by companies with the resources to create these solutions? And the little view of the rest of the world these people DO have would be closed up because of how awful it is to profit from giving a government software that they can use. What we need here is for American individuals and companies alike to stand up and support an example of Free Enterprise to the world. Its the only example they have. Don't be fooled by the socialistic views that dominate the globe today. Americans are different. That's why we're better. And yes, by the way, we are BETTER or everybody else wouldn't be trying to BE like us. I think by compromising these values and disallowing American corporations to participate in worldwide trade with international governments would be more harmful in the long run and a bad example for the world.
Unfortunately, this is a common thing.
Wal-Mart got sued and lost when it provided sign language interpreters for two deaf ladies during training, but refused to hire the interpreters full time. Companies like Wal-Mart go out of there way to provide jobs for the disabled, but are still unable to please people who are after just one thing: money.
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It's a lot of "take" and not much "give" on an international level, i.e. not at all open source (unless you take Microsoft's use of BSD code as "open source")
Why should we have a problem with this? The BSD license accepts this as a valid practice. If contributors have a problem with their code being repackaged and sold for profit, they should use the GPL.
touche
I say its our internet. We invented it. If they don't want to play by our rules, they can disconnect.
Yes that's exactly what I was saying - I could be wrong. I should have mentioned I am not a lawyer. Kids don't try this at home.
Seriously, appologies all around for false info, just - last time I checked - cover bands still get payed to sing other people's songs in bars, etc.
I really don't think so.
Recall the lawsuite that mp3.com lost. Their whole case was based on the fact that converting the music to mp3s and making it available to the user wherever they are was adding value to the music which was shot down when the court decided that simply converting the format of the music did not add value to it. I was sure I saw this - does anyone have an article to back this up?
Besides last time I checked their are still legal provisions for home recordings keeping them legal, which is all Apple is really promoting - ; )
Acutally in the literal sense, wouldn't it be completely legal to Rip a song, Mix it up w/ some groovy beats and then Burn it to a cd for personal use or even to resell as you have added value to the material thereby making it legal to distribute. (I'm thinking Weird Al...)
Since when is it illegal to advertise for something that is illegal.
A court case comes to mind where a man was convicted of placing an advertisement in Rolling Stone magazine under false pretenses. The ad read something to the effect of, "Good grass, $15." When a customer received a plot of grass (think your front lawn) in return for his $15 he sued and won.
It is not illegal to write music about doing drugs or committing crimes, why should it be any different in the realm of advertising?
Is it possible that 3 years down the road we will be looking at flash as a fad of the past? Like vrml and other technologies that were "Way cool!" in their day but got passed off when everyone realized that organizing information in an enviornment overly laced with multimedia isn't a very efficient means of doing things?
I think that it becomes a problem when the technology or in this case the way in which the information is presented overshadows the information itself. When this happens its only a matter of time before people get fed-up having to cut through all the gee-wiz crap to get the information they came for in the first place.
Man... and I thought Microsoft was making everyone out to be a moron with their progressivly ultra simplistic super think-you-not interface.
A scary peek into the one-button world of the Macuser...
Calm down everyone!
This is an age old cycle. High demand for realestate in SF = higher prices being charged for rent. Now that demand is down the prices are going to fall and new tenants will go there.
Nothing to worry about so long as the government stays out of it and doesn't do something stupid with rentals like they did with utilities.
I think you're missing the point. The major factor in advancing democracy throughout the world is the same thing that you are so harshly criticizing. Our capitalistic ideals are what caused the fall of the Soviet Union and others and continue to plague oppressors world-wide. Free enterprise begets democracy because one cannot exist without the other. If we compromise the principles of our own profit driven economy by chastising corporations that would profit for providing a service or solution that is useful to others - whatever their intentions - would be detrimental to the spread of democracy throughout the world. Look at China - they know they are playing with fire as they become more capitalistic and try to participate in world trade on a free enterprise system, but they can't resist! The government's interest in the financial growth of their country is the only reason the internet is in China today and the only reason that Chinese citizens have a connection to the outside world. Remember, that is the only reason the internet is in Saudi Arabia. Do you think internet use would be allowed at all if the government was not provided with a means of filtering it by companies with the resources to create these solutions? And the little view of the rest of the world these people DO have would be closed up because of how awful it is to profit from giving a government software that they can use. What we need here is for American individuals and companies alike to stand up and support an example of Free Enterprise to the world. Its the only example they have. Don't be fooled by the socialistic views that dominate the globe today. Americans are different. That's why we're better. And yes, by the way, we are BETTER or everybody else wouldn't be trying to BE like us. I think by compromising these values and disallowing American corporations to participate in worldwide trade with international governments would be more harmful in the long run and a bad example for the world.
it will cost £25 a month
Just add the bill onto the taxes and provide it to all citizens in grande British tradition.
Seriously, it is cool to see this technology spreading. The best way for security to increase is for it to become commonly used.
What do you call 5 VB programmers at the bottom of the ocean?
A good start!
It's evidently taking developers from the C/C++, but also the Visual Basic camps, with strong growth overseas.
It's about time!
Die Basic! Die!
Unfortunately, this is a common thing. Wal-Mart got sued and lost when it provided sign language interpreters for two deaf ladies during training, but refused to hire the interpreters full time. Companies like Wal-Mart go out of there way to provide jobs for the disabled, but are still unable to please people who are after just one thing: money.
There you go! Making your way through a maze of cubicles is hard enough, now lets make it three dimentional.
Rubber tree plants are the standard for this aren't they?