I'm still dumbfounded as to why everyone things that the "internet = free" mentality *should* pass.
I may not create as much content as I really want to, but I still do. And I see no reason to impose some kind of charge on it. The internet needs billions of people giving away a little bit for free, not 10,000 *rock stars* creating mindless consumer garbage that can be tied into marketing Pepsi or Nike.
The attitude that it shouldn't be free, is part of a long term strategy to steamroll over free developers/artists/authors, so that the only thing left is "for money" content. It will be a sad internet (not that it's not sad as it is already).
How do you sell water? You sell it in a desert. And if you just happen to live in a non-desert... well, get to work on the desertification process.
Wish I could be that optimistic. With DRM/Paladium on the horizon, dozens of truly poor judicial rulings, and a general anti-free sentiment going on most places ("you sound like a communist"), the outlook could just as easily be more grim than what you believe.
For years, people like myself would complain about dos or windows, and how much software cost. And we'd here whiny assed comments about how "if you don't like it, write your own".
Do not be confused, myself, I couldn't even contribute to linux, let alone write any significant portion of it on my own. But someone did, following that sarcastic advice. And lo and behold, it was better software.
Now, we have them running scared. We're not hostages anymore. And they are doing whatever it takes, to turn back time, to when we were. If they can buy judges, laws, or legislators, they will. If they have to do a svengali on some little crackpot Utah outfit, to persuade them to be cannonfodder in this war, they will.
The thing that scares me, is what if this tactic works somehow? Everyone here bitches and moans about how it makes no logical sense, that there could be no justice in it. Me, I worry that those were never necessities in the first place, when big money is in the courtroom.
#2 Business. Legitimate, competent software vendors make money selling support. For instance, on a smaller scale, my employer "bought" a custom application. Do they own the copyright? I don't know. Does it matter? Not really, they don't want to sell it to others, just use it. And we couldn't sell it either, we can't support it. That's what the author is paid to do, we find a bug, he fixes it. We need another features, he codes it. In that sense, source code, copyrights, they're meaningless.
Could this apply to Microsoft, and a major operating system? Certainly. But what handicaps Microsoft, is that their OS's are generally unsupportable. How can you sell support, when even your so called experts, the people who wrote it, can't fix it?
And don't go thinking this is something that happens with big software, it isn't. SAP/R3 is practically handcrafted for every single customer. Big customers, and to a smaller extent, smaller customers get this treatment from Oracle, IBM, and Sun.
#3 Hypocrisy. If getting the job done at a lower cost is the concern, why the complaints? Sure, 20 years from now, linux may cost more than M$ somehow, but for now, this edict seems practical. Hell, its unlikely to even last some theoretical time til it's irrelevant, so again, why the complaints?
#4 Reperations. Sometimes people that have been treated extremely unfairly in the past, deserve a little favoritism to even things up. I don't care much for affirmative action now, mind you, but all the various civil rights programs of the 50s, 60s and 70s hardly went too far. Maybe linux deserves something like this, for a limited period of time.
If Microsoft wants its software to be considered, clearly they only have to GPL Windows XP, at which point it would meet the criteria set forth.
So quit all your whiny-headed yammering about "its not fair".
It is completely. You people are taking the decision out of context, and twisting it all around. If there were some critical app that only windows could handle, do you think they're going to toss that functionality out the window? Hell no. It will just mean that the state has 4 or 5 windows machines, instead of 0.
Effectively, this is about changing the default platform. If they say "we'll choose the best for each application" then loads of brainless state employees would demand windows boxen, so they can play solatarie on the taxpayers time. Without this edict, the default becomes windows, whether or not its the best. I for one, can't see how it could be any worse... and if the government has more trouble creating all sorts of documentation (about the only thing a bureacracy is good for), would that be so horrible?
Unless, he was referring to the person having inferred such from another implication, such as all the answers he had gotten before now, or the web pages he had read.
So, the grammar isn't necessarily as problemtatic as you make it to be, what we are looking at is more of an ambiguity problem.
Yeh, The OpenSCOurce license, and the MS Shared Source licenses are the only ones approved by the Slave Software Foundation. Develop under these so you can become a codeserf today!
International, in the sense that search warrants would be impeded by jurisdictional obstacles. Freenet might only send traffic to hosts within your own country, it's more or less random. So, when you're investigated, ISP logs could reveal your host communicated with hosts that are easily within reach of the same law enforcement that's after you.
Duh.
And IP-over-freenet is the most absurd thing I've ever heard of. My scheme gives you secure/anonymous IP, without the overhead of freenet. You build application layer protocols on top of network protocols, not the other way around.
You think I'm talking IRC and p2p, the other reply thinks I'm talking p2p alone.
And none of the implementations you mention even do international links, except through random chance. I'm starting to believe that everyone that reads slashdot suffers from a lack of imagination....
A variation of this concept could be used to create a largely anonymous, secure network.
A - B - C - D
Assume that you are host B, and you VPN to host C, who happens to be in France (with you in the Canada). Host D also VPNs to the guy in france, but he never tells you who that guy is (he is careful to not even give any hints of that).
You allow host A to VPN to you, and A is someone you thought you could trust, in the USA. But he is only an RIAA narc. He connects to your network, and discovers that host D runs a large mp3 ftp server. But the narc on host A only knows your own public IP (which might as well be your identity, it will lead to it easily enough). You however, are outside of the jurisdiction of the USA. The RIAA won't be able to sic criminal prosecution on you, and even if they tried, you have a good chance of beating extradition "Your Honor, I only participate in an experimental hobbyist network". Besides which, they don't want you, but rather your computer or ISP's logs. The RIAA is big enough to try to prosecute this in civil court... but how can they force you to reveal the identity of host D, when you don't know it yourself?
And, the network could be made even larger, so that they might have to hop from host to host, forcing the revelation of the next hop's identity. How much would that cost them, and could host D vanish before they got close? Imagine not a chain of hosts, but a square mesh. Now, instead of just the 2 routes, you have 4 or 6... they can't even tell which of your routes is C, which is G or Z. So, at that point, even your ISP's logs aren't enough, they have to confiscate your computer.
I think the scheme is rather strong, but I'd happily take suggestions. Anyone(not in the USA) want to help me build it?
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The Jewish people, as a whole, don't want to do that. In the majority, they are a somewhat decent people, and you have them to thank that your shitty little buttbuddy palestinians (you're one yourself?) aren't all dead.
I mean, provoke them some more. I dare you. Is Egypt going to come to your rescue, or Syria? Saudia Arabia? C'mon. Even in those countries, the palestinians are considered ghetto-scum. It's just that over here in the US, we're supposed to believe you're all one "Islamic brotherhood" for propaganda purposes. Nothing is more humorous, than hearing one Saudia tell another some ethnic joke deriding a palestinian. Hell, maybe after they're done wiping Israel out (haha), they'd get rid of the palestinians too. I mean, the only thing they're good for, is killing themselves in the hope that they'll take out Israelis. Don't you think that if the other arabs cared for the palestinians *AT ALL* that they would teach them to kill israeli's without committing suicide?
Oh wait. That's right, they don't even have enough competence over there to manage something akin to military training. My bad.
Arcnet is what I use to network my Amigas. I really want the TRS-80 Model 2/16 arcnet card though.
I haven't gotten a FDDI concentrator yet, but do have the nics. Also have an extensive, even obscene localtalk network. Macs, apple2s, a Newton, linux/x86, NeXTstation, and possibly an SGI.
And, I do have that 2slot sbus HIPPI card... too bad I can't find more gear to build it.
Good luck on the ATM, but what switch are you using? I've yet to see a switch that will do both 25mps and 155mps... lord knows I'd love to have a blade for mine that did 25.
Check out my Metanet page, if you haven't already. I'm building an even bigger network now, and we could probably use a guy like you...
I thought those old IBM things were only the 25mps ATM. Which isn't even real ATM, as far as I've ever been able to tell.
I have a Cabletron SmartCell zx250, and I use the 32bit pci Fore cards... can't remember the model # at the moment. I only got them because I like to play with weird networking stuff... but I have had some minor success. Driver's load at least, and I get the equivalent of a link light. My understanding of AAL5 and LANE isn't good enough, I fear, to do anything truly interesting.
On the other hand, a buddy of mine with the 3com ATMlink cards had absolute zero luck. Couldn't even find a linux driver, and the NT drivers were'nt able to do a damn thing. So I dunno.
Just wish I could find the 622mps blade for my zx250... if anyone is selling one, let me know.
I find it sad that your primary example is not only just a single net application, but that it is in particular, p2p.
Which is why only p2p apps are getting any defenses whatsoever. Freenet reminds me too much of the BBS days, when the best we had was to be able to search for files. No IRC, no domain names, no email or IM. No web.
More like, the vehicle detects that you had it serviced at an independent mechanic, instead of at the dealership, and phones home to cancel the warranty.
You should see Executive Decision then. It has the perfect Segal formula. He only has a few words, and then shortly into the movie, he gets killed, in a violent, irrecoverable way. There is simply no way that he will survive what happens to him.
Sure, it could have been better. Maybe the jetliner could have swooped lower, and sucked him into a turbine. Maybe he could have hit the ground, and then 3 seconds later, Wile E. Coyote-style, a piano could have fallen on top of him.
But all in all, I liked it. It was a good first step, and I'm confident that scriptwriters and directors will build upon it, until we see the day when he dies at least 3 times in any given movie, once which will involve high voltage or ravenous hyenas.
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I'm still dumbfounded as to why everyone things that the "internet = free" mentality *should* pass.
I may not create as much content as I really want to, but I still do. And I see no reason to impose some kind of charge on it. The internet needs billions of people giving away a little bit for free, not 10,000 *rock stars* creating mindless consumer garbage that can be tied into marketing Pepsi or Nike.
The attitude that it shouldn't be free, is part of a long term strategy to steamroll over free developers/artists/authors, so that the only thing left is "for money" content. It will be a sad internet (not that it's not sad as it is already).
How do you sell water? You sell it in a desert. And if you just happen to live in a non-desert... well, get to work on the desertification process.
Wish I could be that optimistic. With DRM/Paladium on the horizon, dozens of truly poor judicial rulings, and a general anti-free sentiment going on most places ("you sound like a communist"), the outlook could just as easily be more grim than what you believe.
You don't understand. Let me explain.
For years, people like myself would complain about dos or windows, and how much software cost. And we'd here whiny assed comments about how "if you don't like it, write your own".
Do not be confused, myself, I couldn't even contribute to linux, let alone write any significant portion of it on my own. But someone did, following that sarcastic advice. And lo and behold, it was better software.
Now, we have them running scared. We're not hostages anymore. And they are doing whatever it takes, to turn back time, to when we were. If they can buy judges, laws, or legislators, they will. If they have to do a svengali on some little crackpot Utah outfit, to persuade them to be cannonfodder in this war, they will.
The thing that scares me, is what if this tactic works somehow? Everyone here bitches and moans about how it makes no logical sense, that there could be no justice in it. Me, I worry that those were never necessities in the first place, when big money is in the courtroom.
Spammer: "Hi, I'd like to sell you some herbal viagra and mortgage consolidations."
Email user: "Go to hell."
[Spammer fires up bulk mailing software, sends 20,000 spams to email user in the space of 5 minutes.]
Email user: "GO TO HELL!"
Spammer: "I'll stop sending the requested sales information as soon as you opt out."
Email user: "Why the hell would I have opt out?!?!"
[Spammer fires up some illegal hackware, dumps 500,000 spams in email user's inbox in the space of 3 minutes.]
Email user: "GOD DAMMIT!"
Spammer: "Just sign up with with our Do Not Call registry, and this will all be over..."
Because SVG is a superior, open standard, that anyone with a text editor can work with?
Uh, first off that's being way to generous to either SCO or Microsoft. As for them being enemies, let me clue you in.
#1 Darl McBride speaks with a very weird lisp that was previously only heard from the likes of Billyboy.
#2 Billyboy's lips are moving when Darl speaks, and Billy's arm is stained all the way to the elbow... it has a bad smell even by Redmond standards.
I'll let your imagination take over from there.
Lessons you should learn, in no particular order:
#1 Sarcasm.
#2 Business. Legitimate, competent software vendors make money selling support. For instance, on a smaller scale, my employer "bought" a custom application. Do they own the copyright? I don't know. Does it matter? Not really, they don't want to sell it to others, just use it. And we couldn't sell it either, we can't support it. That's what the author is paid to do, we find a bug, he fixes it. We need another features, he codes it. In that sense, source code, copyrights, they're meaningless.
Could this apply to Microsoft, and a major operating system? Certainly. But what handicaps Microsoft, is that their OS's are generally unsupportable. How can you sell support, when even your so called experts, the people who wrote it, can't fix it?
And don't go thinking this is something that happens with big software, it isn't. SAP/R3 is practically handcrafted for every single customer. Big customers, and to a smaller extent, smaller customers get this treatment from Oracle, IBM, and Sun.
#3 Hypocrisy. If getting the job done at a lower cost is the concern, why the complaints? Sure, 20 years from now, linux may cost more than M$ somehow, but for now, this edict seems practical. Hell, its unlikely to even last some theoretical time til it's irrelevant, so again, why the complaints?
#4 Reperations. Sometimes people that have been treated extremely unfairly in the past, deserve a little favoritism to even things up. I don't care much for affirmative action now, mind you, but all the various civil rights programs of the 50s, 60s and 70s hardly went too far. Maybe linux deserves something like this, for a limited period of time.
If Microsoft wants its software to be considered, clearly they only have to GPL Windows XP, at which point it would meet the criteria set forth.
So quit all your whiny-headed yammering about "its not fair".
It is completely. You people are taking the decision out of context, and twisting it all around. If there were some critical app that only windows could handle, do you think they're going to toss that functionality out the window? Hell no. It will just mean that the state has 4 or 5 windows machines, instead of 0.
Effectively, this is about changing the default platform. If they say "we'll choose the best for each application" then loads of brainless state employees would demand windows boxen, so they can play solatarie on the taxpayers time. Without this edict, the default becomes windows, whether or not its the best. I for one, can't see how it could be any worse... and if the government has more trouble creating all sorts of documentation (about the only thing a bureacracy is good for), would that be so horrible?
Unless, he was referring to the person having inferred such from another implication, such as all the answers he had gotten before now, or the web pages he had read.
So, the grammar isn't necessarily as problemtatic as you make it to be, what we are looking at is more of an ambiguity problem.
Welcome to the english language.
Yes, and he scored triple bonus points, because his very last word was nazi, no less.
I get tired of amateurs that use it in the first sentence of a large paragraph.
You're going to hear freenet so much, probably won't notice me. But I'm building an actual IPv4/IPv6 network, not some hyped up p2p on steroids.
Networking geeks build networks at layer 2-4, not layer 7 like some of the other crap out there.
You were supposed to be in Hollywood, making sure they didn't screw up my favorite movie.
Not posting the good plot ideas on slashdot 12 months too late.
Nice going bill, you dropped the ball on this one.
Best. Troll. Ever.
Yeh, The OpenSCOurce license, and the MS Shared Source licenses are the only ones approved by the Slave Software Foundation. Develop under these so you can become a codeserf today!
International, in the sense that search warrants would be impeded by jurisdictional obstacles. Freenet might only send traffic to hosts within your own country, it's more or less random. So, when you're investigated, ISP logs could reveal your host communicated with hosts that are easily within reach of the same law enforcement that's after you.
Duh.
And IP-over-freenet is the most absurd thing I've ever heard of. My scheme gives you secure/anonymous IP, without the overhead of freenet. You build application layer protocols on top of network protocols, not the other way around.
You're not thinking grandly enough.
You think I'm talking IRC and p2p, the other reply thinks I'm talking p2p alone.
And none of the implementations you mention even do international links, except through random chance. I'm starting to believe that everyone that reads slashdot suffers from a lack of imagination....
A variation of this concept could be used to create a largely anonymous, secure network.
A - B - C - D
Assume that you are host B, and you VPN to host C, who happens to be in France (with you in the Canada). Host D also VPNs to the guy in france, but he never tells you who that guy is (he is careful to not even give any hints of that).
You allow host A to VPN to you, and A is someone you thought you could trust, in the USA. But he is only an RIAA narc. He connects to your network, and discovers that host D runs a large mp3 ftp server. But the narc on host A only knows your own public IP (which might as well be your identity, it will lead to it easily enough). You however, are outside of the jurisdiction of the USA. The RIAA won't be able to sic criminal prosecution on you, and even if they tried, you have a good chance of beating extradition "Your Honor, I only participate in an experimental hobbyist network". Besides which, they don't want you, but rather your computer or ISP's logs. The RIAA is big enough to try to prosecute this in civil court... but how can they force you to reveal the identity of host D, when you don't know it yourself?
And, the network could be made even larger, so that they might have to hop from host to host, forcing the revelation of the next hop's identity. How much would that cost them, and could host D vanish before they got close? Imagine not a chain of hosts, but a square mesh. Now, instead of just the 2 routes, you have 4 or 6... they can't even tell which of your routes is C, which is G or Z. So, at that point, even your ISP's logs aren't enough, they have to confiscate your computer.
I think the scheme is rather strong, but I'd happily take suggestions. Anyone(not in the USA) want to help me build it?
The Jewish people, as a whole, don't want to do that. In the majority, they are a somewhat decent people, and you have them to thank that your shitty little buttbuddy palestinians (you're one yourself?) aren't all dead.
I mean, provoke them some more. I dare you. Is Egypt going to come to your rescue, or Syria? Saudia Arabia? C'mon. Even in those countries, the palestinians are considered ghetto-scum. It's just that over here in the US, we're supposed to believe you're all one "Islamic brotherhood" for propaganda purposes. Nothing is more humorous, than hearing one Saudia tell another some ethnic joke deriding a palestinian. Hell, maybe after they're done wiping Israel out (haha), they'd get rid of the palestinians too. I mean, the only thing they're good for, is killing themselves in the hope that they'll take out Israelis. Don't you think that if the other arabs cared for the palestinians *AT ALL* that they would teach them to kill israeli's without committing suicide?
Oh wait. That's right, they don't even have enough competence over there to manage something akin to military training. My bad.
Arcnet is what I use to network my Amigas. I really want the TRS-80 Model 2/16 arcnet card though.
I haven't gotten a FDDI concentrator yet, but do have the nics. Also have an extensive, even obscene localtalk network. Macs, apple2s, a Newton, linux/x86, NeXTstation, and possibly an SGI.
And, I do have that 2slot sbus HIPPI card... too bad I can't find more gear to build it.
Good luck on the ATM, but what switch are you using? I've yet to see a switch that will do both 25mps and 155mps... lord knows I'd love to have a blade for mine that did 25.
Check out my Metanet page, if you haven't already. I'm building an even bigger network now, and we could probably use a guy like you...
I thought those old IBM things were only the 25mps ATM. Which isn't even real ATM, as far as I've ever been able to tell.
I have a Cabletron SmartCell zx250, and I use the 32bit pci Fore cards... can't remember the model # at the moment. I only got them because I like to play with weird networking stuff... but I have had some minor success. Driver's load at least, and I get the equivalent of a link light. My understanding of AAL5 and LANE isn't good enough, I fear, to do anything truly interesting.
On the other hand, a buddy of mine with the 3com ATMlink cards had absolute zero luck. Couldn't even find a linux driver, and the NT drivers were'nt able to do a damn thing. So I dunno.
Just wish I could find the 622mps blade for my zx250... if anyone is selling one, let me know.
Only the goal.
Superior implementation is the key.
I find it sad that your primary example is not only just a single net application, but that it is in particular, p2p.
Which is why only p2p apps are getting any defenses whatsoever. Freenet reminds me too much of the BBS days, when the best we had was to be able to search for files. No IRC, no domain names, no email or IM. No web.
Help me build a new one. If balkanization is inevitable, at least have your own balkan city-state when the mess begins...
More like, the vehicle detects that you had it serviced at an independent mechanic, instead of at the dealership, and phones home to cancel the warranty.
You should see Executive Decision then. It has the perfect Segal formula. He only has a few words, and then shortly into the movie, he gets killed, in a violent, irrecoverable way. There is simply no way that he will survive what happens to him.
Sure, it could have been better. Maybe the jetliner could have swooped lower, and sucked him into a turbine. Maybe he could have hit the ground, and then 3 seconds later, Wile E. Coyote-style, a piano could have fallen on top of him.
But all in all, I liked it. It was a good first step, and I'm confident that scriptwriters and directors will build upon it, until we see the day when he dies at least 3 times in any given movie, once which will involve high voltage or ravenous hyenas.