For the sake of the argument, assume he can do it in even half the time he claims, 5 months.
Shouldn't passwords be changed more often than this? I mean, it's not about being able to brute-force the thing period... but about being able to do it in a practical amount of time.
If everyone can start doing this in 1 month's time, I just have to start doing password changes every 2 weeks. Or am I wrong?
My TV? Hardly. But I can justify protecting my wife from being violated my some crackfiend loser who feels he must sample her, just because he can, and he has the only gun.
Listen to yourself. Better to be raped, than to have a shot at fighting back.
Better to not have guns, even though admittedly criminals will likely have them.
And best of all, no more than a 50/50 chance (maybe not even that) of being able to recognize and shoot some bozo who has broken into your house, before he can shoot you back. And that's with an example of a shotgun versus a handgun.
You are either a retard, a frenchie (same thing?), or a troll so clever...
Aren't that bad? Lots of factors there. Would need statistics, but there is no way it's 50/50, let alone worse.
Plus, it's more one-sided than that. The homeowner who kills a burglar has the law on his side in many cases (and in all cases, if burglar has a weapon). The burglar who kills the homeowner is just fucked... even his burglary career is over, because if he doesn't lay low, he gets assfucked for the next 40 years, or maybe electro-fried.
I'm sorry, but only a european could justify strategic victimality. Where are you from again?
You're absolutely right. No one can deny that an armed criminal in europe is less likely to blast the homeowner at first site, because of how unlikely it is that he will need to.
That said, assuming that criminals will always have guns, I don't want to be unarmed and have to rely on the mercy of the criminal. I would much rather have the shotgun, because while he's much more likely to shoot (and maybe even hit me), it's very unlikely that in my dark home he will instantly kill me. And I can still vaoprize his chest cavity with my close-range shotgun, even one-armed.
Now, let's take all this to their natural conclusions, rather than just stating the part of the equation that makes your argument look good. My single instance is much more violent, if it ocurrs, but taken as a whole, does this increase violence for everyone? Likely not. There is one less violent criminal. Other criminals may see that crime might not be so safe or fun. The pivotal point is, is this a situation where an arms race will ocurr? That's far from certain. Depends on how practical the criminals are, and like any group, there is a mixture here, from very impractical vandals, all the way up to movie-esque cat burglars, who want no part of violence.
My own opinion, is that an arms race situation is pretty absurd. The next criminal doesn't break into my uncle's home next with a rocket-propelled grenade launcher, just because I killed a colleague with my shotgun.
On the other hand, you can play it safe, hoping to earn the mercy of the felon, as he rapes your wife at gunpoint, making you watch... because, hell, if you *had* a gun, he might have had to kill you first!
I was aware that it probably is fractal, but not being sure didn't want to state it as fact. Besides, the main point is that it > 1, whether its 1.678... or 6 is splitting hairs. I like the link, btw. The "measure of how complex" phrase struck a chord....
The internet is 1-dimensional? They must be describing it metaphorically. Because it sure as hell has a geometry, and an N-dimensional geometry at that (where N is larger than 1, even if I don't know the exact value).
For example, I've experimenting with networks that have a regular geometry, where every router might have 6 links to other routers, arranged in a 3d grid type of geometry. In the logical sense, a router is certainly "to the right" of another, or "above" another. In such a network, it's easy to see that it has 3 dimensions. With the internet, the geometry is very irregular, even 'organic'.
All that said, should I Subject this post with "Fr0st t3chn1cal p0ts" ? Even an hour later, everything seems to be lame kiddy banter....
Ouch. How to argue that Stallman isn't more of a propaganda artist than the Iraqi Information Minister...
Still, when is closed source good? Algorithm patents are questionable in my opinion, and general software patents are absurd. So what's to be gained by closed source? (Besides, you dont need to hide if patented, you've already got legal protection). Certainly, there are many, many software projects that I don't want to be closed source. Voting machines, air traffic controller equipment. Even those that dislike the GPL or this or that "open source" license, should be concerned when someone chooses to not let them see how the software works, and yet they depend on it.
I caught a cold a few weeks back. Colds are viral illnesses. Certainly, the virus didn't make every lung cell in my body its own, or I'd be dead.
Maybe a computer virus? Because we all know that every single computer virus has always achieved 100% infection rate... oh wait, not that kind of virus either.
So yes, it is propaganda.
Libraries can and often are exempt, if proper precautions are taken. Use code in the middle of your binary, non-library app? Hell yes, it has to be GPL. But if you weren't a lazy fucking loser, you'd write your own right?
Try to use microsoft code in your app.... see if you don't have to follow their restrictions. No one ever accuses their code of being viral though, even though it meets one of the criteria (causes a machine to flake out if you execute it).
One last thing, In an ideal world, yeah, but fixing something often breaks something else or uncovers another bug.
Since when is uncovering a but a bad thing? We fix them that way. As for the characterization that little or no improvement can be made with the fixes GPL insists on, how do you explain the improvements the linux kernel made?
Oh, that's right. Linux slipped a floppy disk into his pocket when he toured SCO back in 1991...
Now, if there were only an emoticon for flipping someone the finger.
Because the GPL insists that you contribute any fixes you come up with, which increases its strength slightly.
Any single ocurrence makes only the slightest difference, but they accumulate, and enhance one another. Soon enough, GPL software is pretty robust, so more use it... and submit even more fixes.
Soon, GPL software has more drivers, supports weirder things.
Don't get me wrong, I like BSD too, it kicks ass. And it's just as free as linux. But the GPL is an asset.
As for this being "viral"... that's just propaganda. This is a good thing, and the stone soup parable probably describes the situation far more accurately than Balmer's crud.
But even if the argument were valid, it still speaks ill of Microsoft, or at least their customers. Customers should know better than to create a monoculture enviroment, if they want to be more virus-resilient.
If you only have WinXP computers, and someone discovers a bad XP exploit (XPLoit???) then of course every single machine in your organization is going to be toast.
Still, thanks for reminding me of Apache/IIS... I'm ashamed I didn't realize it myself.
SCO Unix has been on the outs since the mid 90s, and they know it. Sun, SGI, and every other vendor worth even the tiniest iota was busy building custom CPUs, and high-powered unixes to run on them.
SCO stuck with x86, the drooling retard of CPUs, lack of talent, anyone?
I'd say they are bleeding customers to win2k/XP every single day, and they're lucky if there are 100,000 servers out there, that don't have active plans to be replaced with windows in the next 12 months.
As for 2.5 million linux servers with their IP, that's laughable. If I said it was my IP, and I owned all linux copyrights, does it make it so, or do I need to be an asshat CEO for it to work?
And one last criticism, if I may. It's actually Darth McBride (and emperor Bilgatine), not Herr McBride.
Damn, wish I were artistic... I've just been inspired to animate a short flash movie, Return of the FUDi....
We need to harvest the 800 numbers preferentially. They pay for those calls.
I'd gladly give up a afew crontabs to have my modem screech in their ear in the middle of the night, maybe even during the day. 10,000 of us doing that, would change things in a hurry.
I never called you a troll. I also never denied being a whiny bitch myself. I just flamed you for thinking moderation can work. Maybe I once did, and you remind me of myself which embarrasses me, I dunno.
Don't they use unemployment claims to measure that?
Didn't everyone already use up all their unemployment about 2 years ago?
Taking both those factors into consideration, doing a little bullshit recalculating, my totally made up numbers place unemployment at closer to 16-20%.
And that's not even counting the people who are technically working at McDonalds for $5.15 p/h, who actually want real jobs.
Actually, you deserve a few more -1, Idiot moderations.
Finding fair, accurate moderation on slashdot would be akin to: (take your pick)
Justice in the US Judicial system.
Truth in politics.
Compassion and decency in christianity.
Genuine (non-spam) email in my/your email box.
At least with kuro5hin, only greater trolls are allowed to run amok, here on slashdot the crapflooders, first-posters, and goatse ijits lord it over us with mob rule. My god, I think I saw a 700,000 userid the other day. I haven't read a truly compelling story here in over a month, and see less than 20 a year (compare that to 20 a week a few years back). Hell, even then, who can read it, with 1-2 million illiterate carpetbagger mouthbreathers all hammering the sites at once?
But, to top it all off, who cares? You can't even see what your karma is anymore, as if you didn't top it off at 50 long ago, Mr. 200k userid. And all this, about a post thats little better than useless... you could have said something clever, or wise, or even trollish. But you paste a URL that the google-literate could have found for themselves, if they really cared to.
More usable than freenet, compatible with all tcp/ip apps, and it's for real. Too bad we're stuck on the wrong side of a "network effect/critical mass" issue....
Reward? I create content too, and I find it very rewarding. It kicks ass, that anyone would want to read something I've written, or run a program that I've designed. You're the short-sighted one, that can only see $$$ for rewards. You think that there can be no reward like that, and that unless others can pilfer my pockets when I overheard music they've performed, that some sort of thievery has occurred.
As for me being able to create more quality content, I find it offensive that in your world, I could live off of technical doodads and computer software toys, while someone labors in a field to feed me.
Worse, that you're hellbent on creating that world.
God, I don't even know how to respond. That I could "up my output" ? That I'm some piece of entertainment factory machinery, that if you pour more money down my throat, short stories shoot out my ass? Go to hell. And whatever you do, don't drag me there with you.
Slashdot Mirror
Obviously HP had its own class A, and DEC acquired from Compaq would have another A. But didn't Compaq also have one?
Welcome on mine, especially with a Troll moderation. ;)
Burninating the countryside... burninating the peasants!
Trogdor!
Trogdor!
C'mon... that sig can't be coincidence, considering the thread's topic.
For the sake of the argument, assume he can do it in even half the time he claims, 5 months.
Shouldn't passwords be changed more often than this? I mean, it's not about being able to brute-force the thing period... but about being able to do it in a practical amount of time.
If everyone can start doing this in 1 month's time, I just have to start doing password changes every 2 weeks. Or am I wrong?
Hey. Email me if you get a chance.
My TV? Hardly. But I can justify protecting my wife from being violated my some crackfiend loser who feels he must sample her, just because he can, and he has the only gun.
Listen to yourself. Better to be raped, than to have a shot at fighting back.
Better to not have guns, even though admittedly criminals will likely have them.
And best of all, no more than a 50/50 chance (maybe not even that) of being able to recognize and shoot some bozo who has broken into your house, before he can shoot you back. And that's with an example of a shotgun versus a handgun.
You are either a retard, a frenchie (same thing?), or a troll so clever...
Aren't that bad? Lots of factors there. Would need statistics, but there is no way it's 50/50, let alone worse.
Plus, it's more one-sided than that. The homeowner who kills a burglar has the law on his side in many cases (and in all cases, if burglar has a weapon). The burglar who kills the homeowner is just fucked... even his burglary career is over, because if he doesn't lay low, he gets assfucked for the next 40 years, or maybe electro-fried.
I'm sorry, but only a european could justify strategic victimality. Where are you from again?
Yes, sick sexual fascination. I was shocked when I heard that 72% of women over the age of 12 routinely masterbate with loaded handguns.
And of course we've all seen the website where the man fucks a greased 32mm cannon barrel...
You're absolutely right. No one can deny that an armed criminal in europe is less likely to blast the homeowner at first site, because of how unlikely it is that he will need to.
That said, assuming that criminals will always have guns, I don't want to be unarmed and have to rely on the mercy of the criminal. I would much rather have the shotgun, because while he's much more likely to shoot (and maybe even hit me), it's very unlikely that in my dark home he will instantly kill me. And I can still vaoprize his chest cavity with my close-range shotgun, even one-armed.
Now, let's take all this to their natural conclusions, rather than just stating the part of the equation that makes your argument look good. My single instance is much more violent, if it ocurrs, but taken as a whole, does this increase violence for everyone? Likely not. There is one less violent criminal. Other criminals may see that crime might not be so safe or fun. The pivotal point is, is this a situation where an arms race will ocurr? That's far from certain. Depends on how practical the criminals are, and like any group, there is a mixture here, from very impractical vandals, all the way up to movie-esque cat burglars, who want no part of violence.
My own opinion, is that an arms race situation is pretty absurd. The next criminal doesn't break into my uncle's home next with a rocket-propelled grenade launcher, just because I killed a colleague with my shotgun.
On the other hand, you can play it safe, hoping to earn the mercy of the felon, as he rapes your wife at gunpoint, making you watch... because, hell, if you *had* a gun, he might have had to kill you first!
Not "wet", the proper phrase is "I think I just *creamed* my pants".
Some day, I too will own a supercomputer, even if it is a 15 yr old Cray...
I was aware that it probably is fractal, but not being sure didn't want to state it as fact. Besides, the main point is that it > 1, whether its 1.678... or 6 is splitting hairs. I like the link, btw. The "measure of how complex" phrase struck a chord....
6 directions. Right/left, front/back, above/below. Next time, I'll spell it all out for the infer-impaired.
No, they were selling Microsoft Xenix (renamed) until just recently.
The internet is 1-dimensional? They must be describing it metaphorically. Because it sure as hell has a geometry, and an N-dimensional geometry at that (where N is larger than 1, even if I don't know the exact value).
For example, I've experimenting with networks that have a regular geometry, where every router might have 6 links to other routers, arranged in a 3d grid type of geometry. In the logical sense, a router is certainly "to the right" of another, or "above" another. In such a network, it's easy to see that it has 3 dimensions. With the internet, the geometry is very irregular, even 'organic'.
All that said, should I Subject this post with "Fr0st t3chn1cal p0ts" ? Even an hour later, everything seems to be lame kiddy banter....
Ouch. How to argue that Stallman isn't more of a propaganda artist than the Iraqi Information Minister...
Still, when is closed source good? Algorithm patents are questionable in my opinion, and general software patents are absurd. So what's to be gained by closed source? (Besides, you dont need to hide if patented, you've already got legal protection). Certainly, there are many, many software projects that I don't want to be closed source. Voting machines, air traffic controller equipment. Even those that dislike the GPL or this or that "open source" license, should be concerned when someone chooses to not let them see how the software works, and yet they depend on it.
How is that analogous, exactly?
I caught a cold a few weeks back. Colds are viral illnesses. Certainly, the virus didn't make every lung cell in my body its own, or I'd be dead.
Maybe a computer virus? Because we all know that every single computer virus has always achieved 100% infection rate... oh wait, not that kind of virus either.
So yes, it is propaganda.
Libraries can and often are exempt, if proper precautions are taken. Use code in the middle of your binary, non-library app? Hell yes, it has to be GPL. But if you weren't a lazy fucking loser, you'd write your own right?
Try to use microsoft code in your app.... see if you don't have to follow their restrictions. No one ever accuses their code of being viral though, even though it meets one of the criteria (causes a machine to flake out if you execute it).
One last thing, In an ideal world, yeah, but fixing something often breaks something else or uncovers another bug.
Since when is uncovering a but a bad thing? We fix them that way. As for the characterization that little or no improvement can be made with the fixes GPL insists on, how do you explain the improvements the linux kernel made?
Oh, that's right. Linux slipped a floppy disk into his pocket when he toured SCO back in 1991...
Now, if there were only an emoticon for flipping someone the finger.
Because the GPL insists that you contribute any fixes you come up with, which increases its strength slightly.
Any single ocurrence makes only the slightest difference, but they accumulate, and enhance one another. Soon enough, GPL software is pretty robust, so more use it... and submit even more fixes.
Soon, GPL software has more drivers, supports weirder things.
Don't get me wrong, I like BSD too, it kicks ass. And it's just as free as linux. But the GPL is an asset.
As for this being "viral"... that's just propaganda. This is a good thing, and the stone soup parable probably describes the situation far more accurately than Balmer's crud.
All too true.
But even if the argument were valid, it still speaks ill of Microsoft, or at least their customers. Customers should know better than to create a monoculture enviroment, if they want to be more virus-resilient.
If you only have WinXP computers, and someone discovers a bad XP exploit (XPLoit???) then of course every single machine in your organization is going to be toast.
Still, thanks for reminding me of Apache/IIS... I'm ashamed I didn't realize it myself.
SCO Unix has been on the outs since the mid 90s, and they know it. Sun, SGI, and every other vendor worth even the tiniest iota was busy building custom CPUs, and high-powered unixes to run on them.
SCO stuck with x86, the drooling retard of CPUs, lack of talent, anyone?
I'd say they are bleeding customers to win2k/XP every single day, and they're lucky if there are 100,000 servers out there, that don't have active plans to be replaced with windows in the next 12 months.
As for 2.5 million linux servers with their IP, that's laughable. If I said it was my IP, and I owned all linux copyrights, does it make it so, or do I need to be an asshat CEO for it to work?
And one last criticism, if I may. It's actually Darth McBride (and emperor Bilgatine), not Herr McBride.
Damn, wish I were artistic... I've just been inspired to animate a short flash movie, Return of the FUDi....
We need to harvest the 800 numbers preferentially. They pay for those calls.
I'd gladly give up a afew crontabs to have my modem screech in their ear in the middle of the night, maybe even during the day. 10,000 of us doing that, would change things in a hurry.
I never called you a troll. I also never denied being a whiny bitch myself. I just flamed you for thinking moderation can work. Maybe I once did, and you remind me of myself which embarrasses me, I dunno.
Don't they use unemployment claims to measure that?
Didn't everyone already use up all their unemployment about 2 years ago?
Taking both those factors into consideration, doing a little bullshit recalculating, my totally made up numbers place unemployment at closer to 16-20%.
And that's not even counting the people who are technically working at McDonalds for $5.15 p/h, who actually want real jobs.
Actually, you deserve a few more -1, Idiot moderations.
Finding fair, accurate moderation on slashdot would be akin to: (take your pick)
Justice in the US Judicial system.
Truth in politics.
Compassion and decency in christianity.
Genuine (non-spam) email in my/your email box.
At least with kuro5hin, only greater trolls are allowed to run amok, here on slashdot the crapflooders, first-posters, and goatse ijits lord it over us with mob rule. My god, I think I saw a 700,000 userid the other day. I haven't read a truly compelling story here in over a month, and see less than 20 a year (compare that to 20 a week a few years back). Hell, even then, who can read it, with 1-2 million illiterate carpetbagger mouthbreathers all hammering the sites at once?
But, to top it all off, who cares? You can't even see what your karma is anymore, as if you didn't top it off at 50 long ago, Mr. 200k userid. And all this, about a post thats little better than useless... you could have said something clever, or wise, or even trollish. But you paste a URL that the google-literate could have found for themselves, if they really cared to.
How about this?
More usable than freenet, compatible with all tcp/ip apps, and it's for real. Too bad we're stuck on the wrong side of a "network effect/critical mass" issue....
And yes, someday I will fix the sig.
Reward? I create content too, and I find it very rewarding. It kicks ass, that anyone would want to read something I've written, or run a program that I've designed. You're the short-sighted one, that can only see $$$ for rewards. You think that there can be no reward like that, and that unless others can pilfer my pockets when I overheard music they've performed, that some sort of thievery has occurred.
As for me being able to create more quality content, I find it offensive that in your world, I could live off of technical doodads and computer software toys, while someone labors in a field to feed me.
Worse, that you're hellbent on creating that world.
God, I don't even know how to respond. That I could "up my output" ? That I'm some piece of entertainment factory machinery, that if you pour more money down my throat, short stories shoot out my ass? Go to hell. And whatever you do, don't drag me there with you.