this is a valid point - how does your browser identify itself? My Omniweb 4.1b gives this string "Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; Omniweb/332; Mac_PowerPC)". That's as close as I can get to the truth without being barred from half the web. Shouldn't ALL browsers identify as "W3C certified" ?
thus writes someone who has never used an iPod, iMovie, iPhoto or iDVD (the best one of all). The Mac is the computer that actually fulfills it's promises (except maybe the ludicrous ones Apple make about games availability). Shit, with an iMac you even get AppleWorks which, though limited compared to MSOffice, makes StarOffice look like the feeble dinosaur that it is.
Apple may have their OWN PC software coming out - Jobs mentioned something vaguely about future Windows support when the iPod was launched. Apple legal could probably slow down any rivals software with threats alone.
they only change allegiance if you "go all the way" and resave them. And don't forget that the icon clues you in to which app they're associated with, so it's not like you're clueless before you double click.
"If you've ever watched a serious Mac user performing complex tasks in OS 9, you realize that they really customize their OS, and make full use of every feature in OS 9 to work at a higher speed." Someone up there understands us! Yes, that's just about spot-on, but it's not just tha MacOS that offers this kind of interaction, Quantel users wouldn't let come along and fuck around with THEIR interface either. The Classic MacOS is a finely honed tool for working with (and especially, across) applications, Windows is pretty clunky by compare (Win2K is probably two thirds of the way there), where OSX (the Finder at any rate) is a wheezing, pausing, illogical, unaccelerated disaster area on par with early WinNT. Nice to look at, impossible to WORK with.
the stated aim for OSX 10.1 was "to meet or beat" OS9 in terms of user interaction and responsiveness. Meet or beat. Is it too late to ask for Copland?:-]
No, no - you misunderstand me. I got OSX at DP4 stage, then public beta, then every subsequent upgrade. Basically, I've been dual booting my home machine now for nearly two years. Learn how to use the terminal? For fucks sake WHY? Wasn't that the whole point of the Mac in the first place? Shit, I used to use xtree gold under DOS because command line was so crappy - I loved my Commodore 64 but entering POKE 53280,6 to make the screen border go blue or LOAD "$",8,1 to view my disk was shitty and slow and ALWAYS prone to syntax and spelling fuck-ups. People bang on about the day when we can start speaking ot our computers as an interface. Well, I've got news for you - Mac OS9 can do that easily, straight out of the box - you talk to it, it talks back. And it works. At this rate we'll evolve to BBC Basic by 2010. Fuck the terminal, I don't WANT to go back to using Pine to get my email.
Apple don't follow those guidelines themselves any more - they gave up on trying to create a natural GUI when they designed Aqua. The sad fact is that the most natural interface for most people these days is Windows, and therefore MacOSX HAS TO BE more like Windows. Heart breaking, isn't it? Anyway, I know plenty of silver surfers who have TONS of disposable income, and they like a computer to look GOOD. Shit, if Apple made an iMac with a mahogany finish my mother would snap it up at any price!
I just cannot understand how anyone can find the GUI of OSX to be superior to that of OS9. Must be that it's more like Windows or something, coz it sure as hell ain't better!
that's pretty fair - a lot of die-hard Mac heads have had to put up with pressure to switch to Windows for a good ten years now - it wears you down after a while. I coexist quite happily in a Win2k, OS9, OSX, SCO Unix environment, OS9 is pretty flaky but it's just so lovely to use, they must have been doing something right all these years.
couldn't agree less. absolute genius to have resource and data foks - so much better than crappy fucking file extension shit. the Mac takes one step forward and two steps back with OSX.
At least that viewpoint makes sense. I'm a long time Mac user, but it's not perfect (and OSX is downright frustrating). So many Mac heads and PC heads damn and praise Apple for COMPLETELY stupid reasons. Blind faith and blind hatredare equally stupid. Still think OS9 is just about the slickest UI ever, it's just so beautifully structured and honed, OSX is a pig by comparison.
amen. I just cannot believe that Halo has slowdown - where does all that memory bandwidth go? And why isn't the 3D shitbox interface smoothly animated? Is it totally beyond them to make their console sacrifice triangles per sec to guarantee frames per sec? I really have been disappointed with my shitbox so far, still prefer my PS2. Come on Tekken 4!
hey, didn't Saddam Hussein already use a cluster of PS2s to design the nuclear weapons that we're just about to kill half the population of Bagdhad for? Or was that just another huge steaming pile of media dung served up in place of real news?
well keep playing with your DC then. Sony didn't kill the DC, Sega did it by themselves. If someone can explain to me why they're now developing SW for other platforms, I'd love to hear it...
I enjoyed the part about biotech for sure... Playstation 6 or 7... Mouarf! What do they want to do with such a console?
You've seen "Ghost in the Shell" I presume? To be honest, is this really news? I remeberreading about the IBM/Toshiba Cell CPU over a year ago - hasn't the intention ALWAYS been to make the PS3 hugely SMP - surely the IP distributed part is just an extension of that?
Perdo, I don't think you understand HOW video editors use their monitors. The absolute picture quality is not at issue because you always use a real D1 monitor for looking at your actual output (interlaced video and strict video phosphor primary specs makes this essential). What editors DO require is tons and tons of real estate, low heat output and the low flicker doesn't hurt. These Apple Cinema displays are absolutely spot-on for Avid or FCP work, it's just a shame that they cost so damn much. I would LOVE to have one.
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this is a valid point - how does your browser identify itself? My Omniweb 4.1b gives this string "Mozilla/4.5 (compatible; Omniweb/332; Mac_PowerPC)". That's as close as I can get to the truth without being barred from half the web. Shouldn't ALL browsers identify as "W3C certified" ?
yep - 101 (no, not binary) years old. life didn't owe her anything else. see how long you can go when you live in the very acme of luxury?
not true - I can surf that site nicely in Omniweb 4.1b under MacOSX 10.1.3.
ALL Macs have Firewire, even the (still available) $799 CRT iMac. Take you ignorance or FUD elsewhere, it has no place on Slashdot! Oh, wait...
it's certainly no more ludicrous than the notion of MS Office selling PCs...
right that's it! I won't tolerate any more jokes about the size of my ass!
thus writes someone who has never used an iPod, iMovie, iPhoto or iDVD (the best one of all). The Mac is the computer that actually fulfills it's promises (except maybe the ludicrous ones Apple make about games availability). Shit, with an iMac you even get AppleWorks which, though limited compared to MSOffice, makes StarOffice look like the feeble dinosaur that it is.
Apple may have their OWN PC software coming out - Jobs mentioned something vaguely about future Windows support when the iPod was launched. Apple legal could probably slow down any rivals software with threats alone.
"The brain must have some sort of internal gravitation model:
This "model" is known to us humans as "experience"
they only change allegiance if you "go all the way" and resave them. And don't forget that the icon clues you in to which app they're associated with, so it's not like you're clueless before you double click.
"If you've ever watched a serious Mac user performing complex tasks in OS 9, you realize that they really customize their OS, and make full use of every feature in OS 9 to work at a higher speed."
Someone up there understands us! Yes, that's just about spot-on, but it's not just tha MacOS that offers this kind of interaction, Quantel users wouldn't let come along and fuck around with THEIR interface either. The Classic MacOS is a finely honed tool for working with (and especially, across) applications, Windows is pretty clunky by compare (Win2K is probably two thirds of the way there), where OSX (the Finder at any rate) is a wheezing, pausing, illogical, unaccelerated disaster area on par with early WinNT. Nice to look at, impossible to WORK with.
the stated aim for OSX 10.1 was "to meet or beat" OS9 in terms of user interaction and responsiveness. Meet or beat. Is it too late to ask for Copland? :-]
No, no - you misunderstand me. I got OSX at DP4 stage, then public beta, then every subsequent upgrade. Basically, I've been dual booting my home machine now for nearly two years. Learn how to use the terminal? For fucks sake WHY? Wasn't that the whole point of the Mac in the first place? Shit, I used to use xtree gold under DOS because command line was so crappy - I loved my Commodore 64 but entering POKE 53280,6 to make the screen border go blue or LOAD "$",8,1 to view my disk was shitty and slow and ALWAYS prone to syntax and spelling fuck-ups. People bang on about the day when we can start speaking ot our computers as an interface. Well, I've got news for you - Mac OS9 can do that easily, straight out of the box - you talk to it, it talks back. And it works. At this rate we'll evolve to BBC Basic by 2010. Fuck the terminal, I don't WANT to go back to using Pine to get my email.
Apple don't follow those guidelines themselves any more - they gave up on trying to create a natural GUI when they designed Aqua. The sad fact is that the most natural interface for most people these days is Windows, and therefore MacOSX HAS TO BE more like Windows. Heart breaking, isn't it? Anyway, I know plenty of silver surfers who have TONS of disposable income, and they like a computer to look GOOD. Shit, if Apple made an iMac with a mahogany finish my mother would snap it up at any price!
I just cannot understand how anyone can find the GUI of OSX to be superior to that of OS9. Must be that it's more like Windows or something, coz it sure as hell ain't better!
that's pretty fair - a lot of die-hard Mac heads have had to put up with pressure to switch to Windows for a good ten years now - it wears you down after a while. I coexist quite happily in a Win2k, OS9, OSX, SCO Unix environment, OS9 is pretty flaky but it's just so lovely to use, they must have been doing something right all these years.
couldn't agree less. absolute genius to have resource and data foks - so much better than crappy fucking file extension shit. the Mac takes one step forward and two steps back with OSX.
in this case it's the OS letting you down, not the hardware. That same machne would be greasy fast running OS9. Sad but true.
At least that viewpoint makes sense. I'm a long time Mac user, but it's not perfect (and OSX is downright frustrating). So many Mac heads and PC heads damn and praise Apple for COMPLETELY stupid reasons. Blind faith and blind hatredare equally stupid. Still think OS9 is just about the slickest UI ever, it's just so beautifully structured and honed, OSX is a pig by comparison.
"Use pictograms. They are much more intuitive."
Of course they are, that's why it was so easy to understand what the ancient Egyptians were on about. Oh wait...
amen. I just cannot believe that Halo has slowdown - where does all that memory bandwidth go? And why isn't the 3D shitbox interface smoothly animated? Is it totally beyond them to make their console sacrifice triangles per sec to guarantee frames per sec? I really have been disappointed with my shitbox so far, still prefer my PS2. Come on Tekken 4!
hey, didn't Saddam Hussein already use a cluster of PS2s to design the nuclear weapons that we're just about to kill half the population of Bagdhad for? Or was that just another huge steaming pile of media dung served up in place of real news?
well keep playing with your DC then. Sony didn't kill the DC, Sega did it by themselves. If someone can explain to me why they're now developing SW for other platforms, I'd love to hear it...
I enjoyed the part about biotech for sure... Playstation 6 or 7... Mouarf! What do they want to do with such a console?
You've seen "Ghost in the Shell" I presume? To be honest, is this really news? I remeberreading about the IBM/Toshiba Cell CPU over a year ago - hasn't the intention ALWAYS been to make the PS3 hugely SMP - surely the IP distributed part is just an extension of that?
Perdo, I don't think you understand HOW video editors use their monitors. The absolute picture quality is not at issue because you always use a real D1 monitor for looking at your actual output (interlaced video and strict video phosphor primary specs makes this essential). What editors DO require is tons and tons of real estate, low heat output and the low flicker doesn't hurt. These Apple Cinema displays are absolutely spot-on for Avid or FCP work, it's just a shame that they cost so damn much. I would LOVE to have one.