I thought that the Apple Cinema Display was OEM'd by Samsung (in whom Apple own a stake)? The SGI display has a very good pixel density, but the Apple display is more usable and has better colour IMHO.
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Well, I'll see your "dipshit", and raise you a "stupid cunt". Except - damn! - I didn't log in as AC. Suck my cock.
I think your maths is a little bent. Just point me at some real G4 SPEC marks. Can't? And where do you get 1000Mhz from? I run a 500Mhz system that features 2 CPUs. It also features 2MB of L2 cache, Gb ethernet on the mobo, firewire on the mobo etc. And three times the price? What is, the CPU or the system? Everyone knows Intel fuck with their compilers to get good SPEC, we have a 300A Celeron system in the office which is the shittiest performing machine I've ever used. Even a K62 based system blows it away. I'm fucking GLAD it only cost us £499, coz we can almost afford to waste that much cash. One things sure, we won't be buying budget PCs in the future - it's up to spec now, not down to price.
the only reason? where do you fucking start! My Commodore 64 was nice and quiet, as was my Amiga 500 then my dad got a fucking IBM PS2 thing running Win 3.1. Never really liked it but you work with what you've got, right? When I went to university we could choose to use either Macs or PCs - naturally (as a PC user, and Amiga lamenter) I ignored the Macs until I noticed QuickTime... You people who count the cost of everything know the value of nothing. Why stop at a Celeron? Why not go the whole hog with a 486? You could probably cobble one together for about $5 and tinker with it for the rest of time while real people get on with using intelligently designed and engineered systems that actually INCREASE their productivity rather than Microsoft's profitability. It's fucking sad that to even get a quiet x86 machine you actually have to modify the operating environment of an obsolete chip, which offered crappy performance at it's RATED specs anyway.
hmmm, I just looked up your celeron on the dnetc database, it seems that the average RC5-64 rate for your chip is 0.88 Mkeys. That means my fanless G4 is over TEN TIMES faster (at that metric, anyway). Not sacrificing performance? Think again. Not to mention that you're probably using a Windows variant, which must be upsetting in itself. You have my deepest sympathies, BTW.
I'm not taking the piss out of your system, I'm just saying that if you sacrifice enough performance on ANY architecture you can make it run cool. The PowerPC let's you have your cake and eat (at least half of) it too! Of course, the other alternative is to use a "mobile" chip in your desktop system, except the bastards won't sell you a socketed Mobile Athlon 4!
errrm, I don't think I've ever seen an EULA for hardware - once you bought it, it's yours (warranty notwithstanding). There's a noble tradition of Mac modification. Some of the Cube and Powerbook mods are beautifully executed indeed. You can't polish a turd (PC?), but you can polish a Mac!
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generally true, but you might want to take a look at Distributed.net live client speed database before you write off the G4 in MP configs. There's a lot of performance to be had in the right applications. As a general purpose CPU, that Athlon XP is certainly faster - I have recently built a 1900+ system (overclocked to 1680MHz) which runs at a staggering 72.5 degrees C even WITH it's (extremely loud) Alpha cooler. It IS, however, a solid 50% faster than my (admittedly 9 month old) 733Mhz G4 DA...
Cost about £2000 13 months ago. Funnily enough, it's the machine that I use on a daily basis to earn my living, NOT for playing games, therefore the fact that it's quiet is even MORE important. My PS2 (the machine that I play games on...) makes around as much noise as my G4 500dp! Fitness to purpose, understand?
it's even better than THAT! Not only do you get two CPUs in one socket, you get to share your heatsink between those two chips. Elegant computer systems ARE possible! Not that you'd ever know from looking at x86 designs!
sadly you're WRONG. The 7400 / 7410 G4's were totally fanless but ALL of the 7450 / 7440 G4's (yep, TiBooks too) have some kind of on-chip active cooling. The Quicksilver machines sound like someone is hoovering next door...
yeah, that's really impressive considering my dual 500 G4 has no heatsink fan... and scores nearly 9.5 Mkeys on RC5-64, while running at 44 degress C! What does your Celery manage? There's nothing impressive about not getting hot whilst not doing anything, is there?
of course it won't melt! Just to make sure though, Apple could reissue it with all the Alu parts cast in Copper, a 133Mhz bus, AGP 4x and a pair of 533Mhz 7410s. The ULTIMATE Cube...
Steve Jobs as Dick Jones? Hardly! Apple can't really be caned too hard on this, the £19.95 isn't excessive (particularly as it included £100 of other Apple software in the pack). I have no idea if Apple are within their rights to issue a cease and desist order over describing a method to use their software outside the terms of their EULA, but - come on - this is a profit making corporation with stockholders and employess who don't expect the company execs to WILLINGLY give THEIR money away. Apple ain't Microsoft guys...
than what? A baby screaming at 3am or someone draggig their nails down a blackboard? How about a car alarm? You'll be telling me that Pepsi tastes better than Budvar next...
"records sample rate is 48000" ??? - what on earth do you THINK you mean by this? Absolute nonsense! Vinyl records are absolutely riven with harmonic distortion and noise, from any remotely scientific perspective they provide an inferior copy of the master from which they were pressed than does a CD, particularly as that master is 99.9% certain to be digital itself. You clearly know fuck all.
even less relevant is the fact that there IS an edition of "do androids..." titled as "Bladerunner" to exploit the success of R Scotts movie. I really think that the two works should be considered entirely seperately, as the movie has piss-all relation to the film.
no really, he is (or at least an engineer). He worked on RADAR for the RAF during the war. And yes, he IS an uphill gardener with a penchant for chicken.
ah no, you must be mistaking me for a Windows jockey. Audio effects? WTF are those when they're at home? We don't have them on MacOSX. As to using "every single Photoshop filter", Christ! I've got bloody MILLIONS of PS plug-ins - that'd take me forever! Truly, a feature IS bloat if you include it but don't use it...
we HAVE all got supercompters on our desks - if you beleive Apple's "1GFLOPS makes it a supercomputer" rule, anyway. And what do we do with them? Surf porn and play Quake. Crap, eh?
W2K did come out first, it's just that MS doesn't seem to actually USE the feature. Seeing as they couldn't design a nice GUI to save their lives, it's not really that surprising...
MacOS X does this trick natively. The only times I have found it useful is for system monitoring windows that really need to be visible all the time but you which you don't want to kill your deskspace. In OSX, each window has adjustable opacity - the linked JPEG seems to show all windows the same - that would be ultra crap. I'd almost forgotten how pug-ugly Windows is. Shudder.
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does linux run good on thin air then? gotta get me one of those virtual machines!
I thought that the Apple Cinema Display was OEM'd by Samsung (in whom Apple own a stake)? The SGI display has a very good pixel density, but the Apple display is more usable and has better colour IMHO.
Well, I'll see your "dipshit", and raise you a "stupid cunt". Except - damn! - I didn't log in as AC. Suck my cock.
I think your maths is a little bent. Just point me at some real G4 SPEC marks. Can't? And where do you get 1000Mhz from? I run a 500Mhz system that features 2 CPUs. It also features 2MB of L2 cache, Gb ethernet on the mobo, firewire on the mobo etc. And three times the price? What is, the CPU or the system? Everyone knows Intel fuck with their compilers to get good SPEC, we have a 300A Celeron system in the office which is the shittiest performing machine I've ever used. Even a K62 based system blows it away. I'm fucking GLAD it only cost us £499, coz we can almost afford to waste that much cash. One things sure, we won't be buying budget PCs in the future - it's up to spec now, not down to price.
the only reason? where do you fucking start! My Commodore 64 was nice and quiet, as was my Amiga 500 then my dad got a fucking IBM PS2 thing running Win 3.1. Never really liked it but you work with what you've got, right? When I went to university we could choose to use either Macs or PCs - naturally (as a PC user, and Amiga lamenter) I ignored the Macs until I noticed QuickTime... You people who count the cost of everything know the value of nothing. Why stop at a Celeron? Why not go the whole hog with a 486? You could probably cobble one together for about $5 and tinker with it for the rest of time while real people get on with using intelligently designed and engineered systems that actually INCREASE their productivity rather than Microsoft's profitability. It's fucking sad that to even get a quiet x86 machine you actually have to modify the operating environment of an obsolete chip, which offered crappy performance at it's RATED specs anyway.
hmmm, I just looked up your celeron on the dnetc database, it seems that the average RC5-64 rate for your chip is 0.88 Mkeys. That means my fanless G4 is over TEN TIMES faster (at that metric, anyway). Not sacrificing performance? Think again. Not to mention that you're probably using a Windows variant, which must be upsetting in itself. You have my deepest sympathies, BTW.
I'm not taking the piss out of your system, I'm just saying that if you sacrifice enough performance on ANY architecture you can make it run cool. The PowerPC let's you have your cake and eat (at least half of) it too! Of course, the other alternative is to use a "mobile" chip in your desktop system, except the bastards won't sell you a socketed Mobile Athlon 4!
errrm, I don't think I've ever seen an EULA for hardware - once you bought it, it's yours (warranty notwithstanding). There's a noble tradition of Mac modification. Some of the Cube and Powerbook mods are beautifully executed indeed. You can't polish a turd (PC?), but you can polish a Mac!
generally true, but you might want to take a look at Distributed.net live client speed database before you write off the G4 in MP configs. There's a lot of performance to be had in the right applications. As a general purpose CPU, that Athlon XP is certainly faster - I have recently built a 1900+ system (overclocked to 1680MHz) which runs at a staggering 72.5 degrees C even WITH it's (extremely loud) Alpha cooler. It IS, however, a solid 50% faster than my (admittedly 9 month old) 733Mhz G4 DA...
Cost about £2000 13 months ago. Funnily enough, it's the machine that I use on a daily basis to earn my living, NOT for playing games, therefore the fact that it's quiet is even MORE important. My PS2 (the machine that I play games on...) makes around as much noise as my G4 500dp! Fitness to purpose, understand?
it's even better than THAT! Not only do you get two CPUs in one socket, you get to share your heatsink between those two chips. Elegant computer systems ARE possible! Not that you'd ever know from looking at x86 designs!
sadly you're WRONG. The 7400 / 7410 G4's were totally fanless but ALL of the 7450 / 7440 G4's (yep, TiBooks too) have some kind of on-chip active cooling. The Quicksilver machines sound like someone is hoovering next door...
yeah, that's really impressive considering my dual 500 G4 has no heatsink fan... and scores nearly 9.5 Mkeys on RC5-64, while running at 44 degress C! What does your Celery manage? There's nothing impressive about not getting hot whilst not doing anything, is there?
of course it won't melt! Just to make sure though, Apple could reissue it with all the Alu parts cast in Copper, a 133Mhz bus, AGP 4x and a pair of 533Mhz 7410s. The ULTIMATE Cube...
Steve Jobs as Dick Jones? Hardly! Apple can't really be caned too hard on this, the £19.95 isn't excessive (particularly as it included £100 of other Apple software in the pack). I have no idea if Apple are within their rights to issue a cease and desist order over describing a method to use their software outside the terms of their EULA, but - come on - this is a profit making corporation with stockholders and employess who don't expect the company execs to WILLINGLY give THEIR money away. Apple ain't Microsoft guys...
than what? A baby screaming at 3am or someone draggig their nails down a blackboard? How about a car alarm? You'll be telling me that Pepsi tastes better than Budvar next...
"records sample rate is 48000" ??? - what on earth do you THINK you mean by this? Absolute nonsense! Vinyl records are absolutely riven with harmonic distortion and noise, from any remotely scientific perspective they provide an inferior copy of the master from which they were pressed than does a CD, particularly as that master is 99.9% certain to be digital itself. You clearly know fuck all.
even less relevant is the fact that there IS an edition of "do androids..." titled as "Bladerunner" to exploit the success of R Scotts movie. I really think that the two works should be considered entirely seperately, as the movie has piss-all relation to the film.
I don't have my copy in front of me, but it MAY be that the slang term for Deckard's job is a "Bladerunner" - hence the film title.
no really, he is (or at least an engineer). He worked on RADAR for the RAF during the war. And yes, he IS an uphill gardener with a penchant for chicken.
ah no, you must be mistaking me for a Windows jockey. Audio effects? WTF are those when they're at home? We don't have them on MacOSX. As to using "every single Photoshop filter", Christ! I've got bloody MILLIONS of PS plug-ins - that'd take me forever! Truly, a feature IS bloat if you include it but don't use it...
we HAVE all got supercompters on our desks - if you beleive Apple's "1GFLOPS makes it a supercomputer" rule, anyway. And what do we do with them? Surf porn and play Quake. Crap, eh?
no, but you should be able to see anyone who's sitting on the other side of your monitor.
W2K did come out first, it's just that MS doesn't seem to actually USE the feature. Seeing as they couldn't design a nice GUI to save their lives, it's not really that surprising...
MacOS X does this trick natively. The only times I have found it useful is for system monitoring windows that really need to be visible all the time but you which you don't want to kill your deskspace. In OSX, each window has adjustable opacity - the linked JPEG seems to show all windows the same - that would be ultra crap. I'd almost forgotten how pug-ugly Windows is. Shudder.