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Science Fiction into Science Fact?

Selanit asks: "I'm a student of English literature at the University of Colorado, in Boulder, with a pronounced interest in all things tech as well. Next term I'll be taking an Independent Study course which combines the two -- the topic will be 'Influences of Science Fiction on Real-World Tech.' The professor and I are still trying to assemble a reading list. So here's my question: what science-fiction novels have had a particularly noticeable effect on the development of technology? I'm mainly interested in books that have been written since World War II. The line of inquiry is not limited to computers; any kind of link between sci-fi and hard tech will do (e.g. Cap'n Kirk's communicator == prototype mobile phone). Books that have lent a name to a technology are also interesting (like the 'Little-Endian, Big-Endian' terms which were lifted from Gulliver's Travels, or 'Babel Fish' from Douglas Adams)."

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  1. ACC by Debillitatus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've heard it said that Arthur C. Clarke had the idea for geosynchronous satellites, and wrote about them in a few of his novels.

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    1. Re:ACC by jmauro · · Score: 1

      Arthur C. Clarke did not talk about satellites in his novels per say but in an article in 1945. He later wrote about it in a non-fiction book called "Profiles of the Future". Which was funny to read the revised edition because he basicly says this chapter is no longer the future since we already have these satellites.

    2. Re:ACC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also heard that ACC also had a patent on raping the bungholes of impoverished young boys in third world countries. In fact, the Queen knighted him Sir Clarke, Earl of pederasty.

    3. Re:ACC by CaseyB · · Score: 2
      He did have the idea, but he didn't introduce the concept in a novel. It was in a British technical journal called Wireless World.

      Clarke is a scientist with many credientials completely separate from his fiction writing.

    4. Re:ACC by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Clarke _did_ predict geosync communications satellites... but he _didn't_ predict tightbeam communications, e.g. by microwave or laser, or the transistor. He thought that the satellites would be manned, because people would have to replace the vacuum tubes onboard.

      IIRC, similar predictions were made in the short stories in the 'Venus Ecliptic' stories. More interestingly, it had a discussion of the societal problems of replicator technology. (they could convert matter into radio, transcribe it onto LP's, and then play it out to make copies) Sadly, the author wimped out with the introduction of a substance that couldn't be copied.

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    5. Re:ACC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      clarke also built his home in sri lanka directly beneath one of the geo-synchronous postions.

    6. Re:ACC by m_vand · · Score: 1

      YM Venus Equilateral by George O Smith

    7. Re:ACC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're thinking of Rudyard Kipling, I am almost certain.

      You know, the guy that Eric Raymond is always quoting. Who coined the term 'grok.'

    8. Re:ACC by Aquillion · · Score: 1

      As I heard it, he discribed them in something he wrote. His description was so close to projects that the government was already (secretly) looking into that it got him investigated by the FBI... At first, they had trouble believing he came up with it on his own! That could just be a myth, though.

    9. Re:ACC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clarke is a scientist?

      Where is he published as a scientist?

      He's a popular writer on the subject of science.

    10. Re:ACC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Umh, 'sir' Arthur is known to act like late Freddie Mercury with respect to young boys. That, unfortunately, is not just an evil rumour, but... a fact. :-/
      In Sri Lanka it's apparently easier to buy certain privileges.

      And although it's not proof of anything, A. has written a few chapters in his books about handsome young men (like the one scene in which an unfortunate young warrior boy gets frozen alive naked and with huge boner...). Check out "songs of distant earth".

    11. Re:ACC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's not forget that ACC invented the Transcapacitor, too!

    12. Re:ACC by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 1

      no really, he is (or at least an engineer). He worked on RADAR for the RAF during the war. And yes, he IS an uphill gardener with a penchant for chicken.

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    13. Re:ACC by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      Could God create an orgasm so powerful even He would kneel to the Devil?

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  2. Neuromancer by gimple · · Score: 1

    I am sure others will list more from this work, but there is a really interesting passage that describes inter-networking as a wasp's nest.

    1. Re:Neuromancer by CheeseMunkie · · Score: 2
      Neuromancer did more than that; it created the subculture of techies and dweebs who then created the internet as a senior project. I oversimplify drastically, but the point is the same: Neuromancer created cyberspace in the minds of the people who then translated it into reality.

      It also spawned several subcultures, including cyberpunks and cypherpunks, and possibly contributed to goths...

      Neuromancer gets passed over a lot; it is one of the most influential books ever written simply by the fact that it created a common atmosphere in which our world changed. Without Neuromancer, Slashdot wouldn't exist today; Linux wouldn't; the dot-com boom that paid for most of our college educations and/or BMWs wouldn't have existed.

    2. Re:Neuromancer by Elgon · · Score: 1

      I believe that Wintermute implants this as a dream into Case's head as a desription of Tessier-Ashpool SA rather than the internet.

      Elgon

    3. Re:Neuromancer by alienmole · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Without Neuromancer, Slashdot wouldn't exist today; Linux wouldn't; the dot-com boom that paid for most of our college educations and/or BMWs wouldn't have existed.

      I'm a big Neuromancer, Gibson, Stephenson etc. fan, but I think your statement is way too strong. Neuromancer might have provided a social context for some subcultures, as you suggest, but I fail to see how, say, Linux wouldn't have existed without Neuromancer.

      In general, I think authors are often given too much credit for both "predicting" and inventing things in their work. The canonical example is Clarke's communication satellites. That may very well have been a real invention, which he might even have patented. Most work in books, though, is nowhere near as original as that. What the best speculative authors mostly do amount to thought experiments which integrate and extrapolate from current trends. In some cases, such as Neuromancer, this is done well enough that the result ends up with strong echoes of something that subsequently happens. This doesn't mean that Neuromancer caused those things. It can mean that it influenced the way many people thought about them, though.

    4. Re:Neuromancer by dataroach · · Score: 1

      V. Vinge's "True Names" was published in 1981, well ahead of Gibson (or Donaldson's) works...

    5. Re:Neuromancer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've always found James P Hogan to be
      very detailed in his physical
      description of technology. In
      "two faces of tomorrow" he describes
      a convincing problem with a world wide
      computer network, when its automation
      becomes too complex. Also describes a
      convincing evolution of AI.
      published June 1979

      In "code of the lifemaker" he presents
      a convincing description of evolution and
      nanotechnology. published June 1983
      Nanotechnology also covered in "bug park"
      April 1997

    6. Re:Neuromancer by maggot+the+shrew · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It also spawned several subcultures, including cyberpunks and cypherpunks, and possibly contributed to goths...

      Bill Gibson's novels had absolutely Jack to do with the evolution of goth, which was already five years old by the time Count Zero was published. Bill was great at looking at things that are out there and pegging them, right on the mark.

      The Gothiks in CZ were far more a reflection of japanese glam rock, which in turn was a reflection of the LA punk/goth scene.

      As far as "cyberpunks" I've said it before, I'll say it again, like New Wave music, there wasn't never no cyberpunk scene, just a lotta middle-aged yuppies trying to sound hip.

    7. Re:Neuromancer by gray+peter · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Neuromancer did more than that; it created the subculture of techies and dweebs who then created the internet as a senior project

      Although definitely one of the best books ever written, the subcultures of which you speak were already well on their way towards creation (if not already created). Don't forget, by the time Neuromancer was published, the idea of "hackers" as a subculture of "techies and dweebs" was already in the mainstream culture with the movie wargames.

      If you want to give credit to Neuromancer (actually, you have to consider the entire sprawl series) I would say that the biggest contribution from these books is the negative sociological impact of digital culture. The vision that Gibson has for the net are nothing like what we have today. His network is much more ubiquitous than ours.

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    8. Re:Neuromancer by gray+peter · · Score: 1
      What?? I'm certainly no "New Wave" music fan, but how can you say there was never a New Wave music "scene"? And no cyberpunk scene? Just 'cuz you're not part of it doesn't mean it doesn't/didn't exist...

      I assure you, there most certainly is a huge movement of 40 something year olds with bad 80s haircuts and crystals listening to new age music and hanging out at the organic supermarkets.

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    9. Re:Neuromancer by mordwin · · Score: 1

      The earliest example of Cyberspace I can think of off the top of my head is the Dr. Who story line 'The Deadly Assassin' broadcast in 1976, but I'm sure someone can come up with an earlier example.

  3. The Pain Amplifier by imrdkl · · Score: 3, Funny

    From (old) Star Trek and (by reference) Dune equates easily to my cube at work.

  4. Snow Crash by Strange_Attractor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've read (I believe here on /.) that many Silicon Valley companies gave that to employees and said "this is what we're aiming for", especially referring to his vision of the Metaverse. This was before the bubble popped, of course .

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    1. Re:Snow Crash by Eimi+Metamorphoumai · · Score: 2

      He's also the first one to use the term "avatar" in that context.

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    2. Re:Snow Crash by geekoid · · Score: 2

      "Metaverse" was an idea that was around before snow crash. Although he may have coined the term metaverse. Doubtfull though.

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    3. Re:Snow Crash by Organic_Info · · Score: 1

      I also (highly) recommend Cryptonomicon also by Neal Stephenson for some good insights into technology use, cryptography, WW2 and plenty of other topics - I also recall a major part of the story concerns Digital Data Havens + associated topics.

      Its a long book but nearly every page is worth the read. Gets 10/10 from me.
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    4. Re:Snow Crash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit.

    5. Re:Snow Crash by Strange_Attractor · · Score: 1

      There are dozens - no, hundreds - of visions for the internet's future (just within SF - multiples more among us). But Stephenson didn't just write away the problems, or assume everything online has full verisimilitude. His Metaverse is an extension of our current online experience, shaped by technical limitations, market forces, and human imagination in a recognizably realistic way. It lives and breathes, and feels like a real near future state-of-the-art. And, because of that, it's influencing the people who'll be developing those technologies.

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    6. Re:Snow Crash by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1

      Its a long book but nearly every page is worth the read. Gets 10/10 from me.

      Except that garbage about Captain Crunch. That was actually painful to read.

      I give it an 8/10. It would be a 10/10 if it was about half the length. It draaaaaaags in a lot of spots.

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    7. Re:Snow Crash by geekoid · · Score: 2

      Not true I had seen and used the term Avatar in several chat rooms, doors and muds in 1980s.
      I'm sure I wasn't the first one.

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    8. Re:Snow Crash by Heywood+Yabuzof · · Score: 1

      IIRC, he talked about the origins of the term "avatar" somewhere in Snow Crash (author's note, forward, "thank you", whatever) and I'm quite sure he doesn't claim that Snow Crash is the first use of that term in that context.

    9. Re:Snow Crash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Snow Crash's 'metaverse' stuff is somewhat boring, no make that tediously boring, 90's 'virtual reality' hype.

      Stephenson's really fun novel is 'The Big U' where he didn't take himself so damned serious. It's a hell of a good read and fun. Nothing he's written since is much good, though it gets a lot of ranting from people who pretend they actually read it.

      Obviously he went way overboard due to the popularity of Snow Crash hype when he wrote that ranting, tedious, even painful tome with all the long mutlipage diversions into matchbook cover cryptography (you know, crypto 'accurate' enough to keep the script kiddies excited for awhile)
      I forget the name of that book, thank goodness.

    10. Re:Snow Crash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think Avatar was used in Vernor Vinge's "True Names", probably the first modern description of a "cyberspace". Although "Overdrawn at the Memory Bank" by John Varley and several Philip K. Dick stories (notably Maze of Death and I Hope I Shall Arrive Soon) have similar ideas.

    11. Re:Snow Crash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Avatar was first used in that context by Habitat on the C64, created by Chip Morningstar and Randall Farmer whilst at Lucasfilm (I think).

    12. Re:Snow Crash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Although Neal Stephenson may not have coined the term "avatar", he was the first to develop the idea of virtual real-estate which people have to pay rent for, etc., in a virtual world - and I don't mean www domain names - I mean virtual volumetric spaces with a set location in said virtual world. So there's something for ya...

    13. Re:Snow Crash by secolactico · · Score: 1

      I remember the day I found out that Avatar was NOT the name of the char in the Ultima games.

      English is not my first language, mind you.

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    14. Re:Snow Crash by ragnarok · · Score: 1

      Maybe you don't like science fiction? The Big U is a fantastic book, but I'd be hard pressed to say it's better than the rest of his work. It's totally different. Well, Zodiac isn't very sf, maybe you should read that.

      His 'wranting, tedious, even painful tome' was Cryptonomicon, which although long-winded at times was a pretty good book, once you got to know it.

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    15. Re:Snow Crash by jezreel · · Score: 1

      This book is definately one of the best books I've ever read :) Glad that I'm not alone, thought that was crap to anyone else....

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  5. Cyberspace by wiredog · · Score: 1

    That term was coined by William Gibson in one of his stories. I'm sure someone knows which story it was.

    1. Re:Cyberspace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you're referring to Neuromancer, which IIRC was his first novel. He also coined the phrase "jack in", which FASA co-opted for its "Shadowrun" RPG.

    2. Re:Cyberspace by kirn_malinus · · Score: 1

      Neuromancer. Great book. He wrote describing the Matrix as a virtual reality interface that linked people all over the world in a virtual mapping of the earth. It was published in 1984, long before any of these things were commonplace. And long before the movie.

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    3. Re:Cyberspace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. Gibson is great. His short story "Burning Chrome" was also amazingly prescient when written (1986?).

    4. Re:Cyberspace by Teferi · · Score: 2

      Shadowrun lifted more than that from Neuromancer, heh...
      to me, it feels like Gibson's Sprawl world with magic thrown in. everything just feels like it came out of his books...except for the dragon that just went flying overhead. :)

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    5. Re:Cyberspace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Matrix of Neuromancer has NUTHING to do with the movie. Read the damned book. Then watch the movie. Rinse, repeast, till you get it.

  6. Jargon by UCRowerG · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The Jargon File might be a good place to start:

    http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/index.html

    1. Re:Jargon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's just the place on the WWW where Airsick Raymond has the Jargon File held hostage.

      He's slowly corrupting it with his political agenda.

      It's a sad day for the old time hackers when one extreme wing of the subculture takes over the language.

  7. Eh by XPulga · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Do your own assigment.

    1. Re:Eh by SquierStrat · · Score: 1

      It's not an assignment, it's setting up a reading list so that he may eventually have an assignment! Read the article!

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  8. Heinlein invented waldoes by typical+geek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    remote control arms used to work with nuclear and hazardous material. I think it's in a short story though.

    1. Re:Heinlein invented waldoes by Capitalist1 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's in a story called "Waldo", and the book as it sits on shelves will most likely be "Waldo & Magic, Inc.".

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    2. Re:Heinlein invented waldoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And he was also responsible for the waterbed

    3. Re:Heinlein invented waldoes by Maeryk · · Score: 2

      Heinlein had a lot of writing based on things that did not yet occur.

      Waterbeds. Microwaves. Radiant heating in a real world *modern* solution. Rooms being bathed in germ-killing light (UV) while people are not in them. Sensors in doors/rooms to tell when people were there and how they preferred the room. Disposable "sheets" on beds. (like a doctors table with the rip-off paper.. not sure if he was first or not). Wash off clothing.. this exists now too.. Saw it in a fashion show.. i know he was using that with Laz and Lor on the Dora in the Lazarus Long books. (when they wore anything at all).

      Dictation to a computer.. (Dorcas, who dictated for Jubal.. which is only the true development of free-standing holograms away).

      Umm.. more.. grass growing indoors. (carpets of grass.. it has since been done.)

      he did a lot with ram-drivers, like the old mass induction coil up the side of the Andes, but so did other people.

      Niven and Pournelle were deep into spaceships.. but Heinlein was the first to come up with the "generation ship" (Orphans of the Sky), as well as Exoskeletal Power Suits (umm.. a couple of books and innumerable short stories.)

      Nuclear reactors.. I dont think he came up with them, but I know he did a lot to project where they would be now.

      Maeryk.

      (Dont even get me started on Asimov and Dick)

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    4. Re:Heinlein invented waldoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Robert Heinlein's "Waldo"

    5. Re:Heinlein invented waldoes by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Dorcas was not a hologram that I remember. I just recalled a purely audio interface to her, usually. Definately when doing the dictation, as that was outside.

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    6. Re:Heinlein invented waldoes by MrSoccerMom · · Score: 1

      Also velcro, in The Door Into Summer.

    7. Re:Heinlein invented waldoes by Maeryk · · Score: 2

      In the later books, after Jubal et-al was on Ishtar's planet, (the grand unification books.. umm.. number of the beast, cat who walks through walls, sail beyond the sunset,(which was basically Maureen being a round-heel), Dorcas was a hologram.. because they described her emerging from the pool, or appearing behind jubal when he would yell 'FRONT".

      At least, that was my impression.. remember she would appear wearing the white robe?

      Maeryk

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  9. Heinlein invents the waterbed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Read some of the early Heinlein. He invents a lot of stuff, well before it's time. The waterbed, I believe was just one of the things in a long line... :-)

    1. Re:Heinlein invents the waterbed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He also gave the Waldo it's name.

    2. Re:Heinlein invents the waterbed... by DrLlama · · Score: 1

      It was in "A Stranger In A Strange Land" where he described the waterbed. I highly recommend the unabridged version which RAH's wife released following his death.

      The description in the book was sufficient to be used as prior art to deny a patent application years later.

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  10. Roll out one of the masters by LittleGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Jules Verne, from "20,000 Leagues" to "From the Earth to the Moon".

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    1. Re:Roll out one of the masters by zeno_2 · · Score: 1

      Ive heard that jules verne's descriptions of the natilus were pretty amazing, especially if you realize when he wrote them. The topic came up in the new Clive Cussler book, Valhalla Rising. I have not read any Jules Verne books myself, but after reading Valhalla Rising, I think I may go pick up a copy of 20,000 leagues under the sea.

    2. Re:Roll out one of the masters by cloudwilliam · · Score: 1

      Jules Verne didn't invent the submarine. He wrote 20,000 Leagues in 1870, several years after the Confederate States of America successfully launched the CSS Hunley in the U.S. Civil War. I don't know if the Hunley was the first submarine, but it was certainly prior to Verne's book. Incidentally, it was the first submarine to ever sink an enemy ship in wartime.

    3. Re:Roll out one of the masters by divbyzero · · Score: 1

      Read Verne online at Project Gutenberg.

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    4. Re:Roll out one of the masters by zeux · · Score: 1

      The first submarine was the 'Turtle' :
      http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/4870/D rG eorgePCPage9Turtle.html

      I've heard that Jules Verne imagined the computer, can someone confirm ?

  11. The Forever War by FortKnox · · Score: 2

    "The Forever War" by Joseph Haldeman has an interesting bit on cloning.

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    Towards the end, which is several thousand years in the future, almost everyone is a clone, and it tells a bit about how this affects the world.

    He also really plays with the einstein-rosen bridge (worm hole) quite a bit.

    Its not a ton of stuff, but its a -great- read regardless ;-)

    Also, although its been probably written 20 times by the time I write this, Asimov is often credited with inventing the term "robot".

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    1. Re:The Forever War by Si · · Score: 2

      Karel Capek (sorry, can't do weird diacritical marks here) invented the term robot, from the Czech word for 'worker'.

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    2. Re:The Forever War by motek · · Score: 1

      The word has been coined by a Czech (not Czechoslovakian for the dumb ones who don't feel the difference) author Karel Capek: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/people/karel_ca pek/

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    3. Re:The Forever War by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Actually the term "robot" is usually traced to Karel Capek's play "Rossum's Universal Robots", written in 1920 (http://www.uwec.edu/Academic/Curric/jerzdg/RUR/). Since Asimov wasn't born until 1920 (http://www.clark.net/pub/edseiler/WWW/asimov_FAQ. html#non-literary3), it seems inappropriate to give him credit.

    4. Re:The Forever War by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, there is an *ancient* chinese story which refers to robots. I can't for the life of me remember the source right now, but it went along the lines of a philosophical puzzle about whether a mechanical person would exhibit some attribute, IIRC.

      Anyways, it just goes to show that no matter how cool you think your idea is, and how much you think you deserve to hold the one and only patent on it, you may have had the idea passed down through society in some obscure `meme'. In short, human knowledge belongs to the world =)

      For those interested (I guess there will be a few), the robot story is probably in Taoist literature somewhere -- if it helps.

  12. 20000 Leagues Under the Sea by v3rb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Jules Verne wrote about nuclear submarines a long time before their invention. Even though this is not your typical "science fiction" book it did have an influence on people.

    1. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by MOMOCROME · · Score: 1

      Jules Verne wrote about nuclear submarines a long time before their invention."

      not true. there were submarines as early as the US civil war. pedantic nitpicking sure, but them's the facts.

    2. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by SuzanneA · · Score: 2, Interesting
      it did have an influence on people.

      So much so, that the first US nuclear sub was called the Nautilus in honor.

    3. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      No, just submarines. (and some associated apparatus, like diving suits) I don't recall that Nautilus was nuclear-powered... just that it had some handwaving electrical powerplant. It involved breaking apart the salt in seawater for the sodium.

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    4. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by nafmo · · Score: 1

      Verne also predicted the telefax machine, among other things.

    5. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by friscolr · · Score: 1
      nitpick nitpick!

      nuclear submarines
      ...
      submarines as early as the US civil war.

      but they weren't exactly nuclear powered!

      was Verne's submarine really nuclear powered?

      either way, the first submarine was the Turtle, which was built in 1775 and saw action in 1776. Jules Verne wrote 20k... in 1870, quite a while after the first submarine had been built and tested.

    6. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by foistboinder · · Score: 1

      was Verne's submarine really nuclear powered?

      IIRC, the Nautilus used sodium as a fuel.

    7. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by Cruciform · · Score: 1

      The first american sub.

      I had an encyclopedia of submarines when I was 10 or so (19 years ago, i was a weird little kid, but then so were most of us reading this), and the first submarine that actually capable of being being controlled by the pilot was invented by a frenchman.
      He drowned on the maiden voyage when he buggered his ballast and sank to the bottom of a lake.

    8. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by friscolr · · Score: 2
      The first american sub.

      argh! i've been americanized!
      thanks for the correction. a little more google searching turns up this timeline which tell of Alexander the Great in a proto-sub back in 356 BC, and Cornelis Van Drebbel building a wodden boat capable of maneuvering underwater in 1620.

    9. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      argh! i've been americanized!


      HAH! I was born that way, no option! I had to find my way out *without any external reference*!

    10. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by 5KVGhost · · Score: 2, Informative

      IIRC, the Nautilus as envisioned by Verne was not nuclear powered. It used electricity, but it was generated via some other method.

      The Nautilus in the Disney adaptation of 20,000 Leagues was nuclear powered, though I think they cloaked the term in appropriately pseudo-archaic terms. ("Fueled by the power of the atom itself", or something like that.)

    11. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by dgroskind · · Score: 1

      Verne also predicted the telefax machine...

      The first electro-chemical fax machine was patented in 1843. It used "damp electrolytic paper as a recording medium and relied for transmission on a scanning stylus being in physical contact with the text of the message, the text being in relief form with raised lettering."

      Verne didn't begin writing science fiction until after 1863.

    12. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by Suidae · · Score: 1

      The sub in 20K Leagues was powered by a 'pile'. It never said nuclear pile, just 'pile'. Probably he was making a refrence to the voltaic pile.

      This is from memory, I don't have the text online, and I don't feel like manually grep'ing the dead-tree version.

    13. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by joshamania · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      We would still have nuclear submarines without Jules Verne. Don't even think of giving credit to Verne for nuclear warships. He wasn't that good, and you are taking credit from whomever the real inventors happened to be.

      Just because they named the fucking thing Nautilus has ZERO to do with the underlying technology.

      There are zero science fiction writers who are scientists. There are some scientists who write science fiction.

    14. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by AnalogBoy · · Score: 2

      "...And these atomic bombs which science burst upon the world that night were strange even to the men who used them. "

      -H. G. Wells, The World Set Free, 1914

    15. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by wumingzi · · Score: 1

      There are zero science fiction writers who are scientists. There are some scientists who write science fiction.

      Almost sounds like a Yogi Berraism. Could you explain this a little further please?

      The author most famous for mixing the left-hand and right-hand path is of course, Issac Asimov, who has a large body of cited scientific work as well as an extensive SF bibliography. Is he a science fiction writer who is a scientist, or a scientist who writes SF?

      j.

    16. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it's not a post-war era book, either.

    17. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fucking retard.

    18. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Jules Verne wrote about nuclear submarines a long time before their invention

      No, he wrote about an electrically powered submarine. It extracted sodium from seawater for use as an essentially limitless powersource.

    19. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by OmegaDan · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dear Slashdot:

      Please do my research for me,

      signed,
      lazy student

    20. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by armb · · Score: 2

      > I don't have the text online

      http://directory.google.com/Top/Arts/Literature/ Au thors/V/Verne,_Jules/Works/Twenty_Thousand_Leagues _Under_the_Sea/ only seems to have English translations.

      "Electricity?" I cried in surprise.

      "Yes, Sir."

      "Nevertheless, Captain, you possess an extreme rapidity of movement, which does not agree well with the power of electricity. Until now, its dynamic force has remained under restraint, and has only been able to produce a small amount of power."

      "Professor," said Captain Nemo, "my electricity is not everybody's. You know what sea water is composed of. In a thousand grams are found 96 1/2
      per cent of water, and about 2 2/3 per cent of chloride of sodium; then, in a smaller quantity, chlorides of magnesium and of potassium, bromide of magnesium, sulphate of magnesia, sulphate and carbonate of lime. You see, then, that chloride of sodium forms a large part of it. So it is this sodium that I extract from sea water, and of which I compose my ingredients, I owe all to the ocean; it produces electricity, and electricity gives heat, light, motion, and, in a word, life to the Nautilus."

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    21. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear OmegaDan,

      Obviously, you did not go to school for too long. Because if you would, you'd know that finding raw material to make a graduate study is only the tip of the iceberg...

      signed,
      someone who have finished his High School

    22. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      Ok, so he didn't invent the nuclear sub, merely the self-contained sub that could stay at sea, indeed underwater, for extended periods of time without having to refuel (coal, oil, wood, recharge batteries...)

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    23. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by TaleSpinner · · Score: 1
      The Nautilus of Verne's novel was not nuclear.
      It is stated explicitly in the novel:


      "Professor," said Captain Nemo, "my electricity
      is not everybody's. You know what sea water is
      composed of. In a thousand grams are found 96 1/2
      per cent of water, and about 2 2/3 per cent of
      chloride of sodium; then, in a smaller quantity,
      chlorides of magnesium and of potassium, bromide
      of magnesium, sulphate of magnesia, sulphate and
      carbonate of lime. You see, then, that chloride
      of sodium forms a large part of it. So it is this
      sodium that I extract from sea water, and of which
      I compose my ingredients, I owe all to the ocean;
      it produces electricity, and electricity gives
      heat, light, motion, and, in a word, life to the Nautilus."


      The idea that the Nautilus was atomic is most
      likely from the Disney adaption, which implied,
      though never stated, the boat was nuclear powerd.

    24. Re:20000 Leagues Under the Sea by armb · · Score: 2

      > Ok, so he didn't invent the nuclear sub, merely the self-contained sub that could stay at sea, indeed underwater, for extended periods of time without having to refuel

      Well, there's the minor detail that the only practical way to split the seawater to get the sodium he uses to generate electricity is with electrolysis. Either the Nautilus has greater than 100% efficiency, or there is another power plant Nemo is keeping quiet about.
      Even if this isn't a nuclear plant (making Nemo truly ahead of his time) that doesn't stop the Nautilus being a potential inspiration to nuclear sub designers.

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  13. Asimov by FireCar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I know that this is the obvious thing to say, but hell, Isaac Asimov would be a great start in reading on things. His stories not only deal with technology, but how technology can get the better of us. As in the story where everyone depends on calculators and doing math by hand is revolutionary (sorry if I forgot the name). He not only shows us where we can go, but also where not to go.

    1. Re:Asimov by deepsky · · Score: 2, Informative

      In Asimov's Second Foundation (1953) there is the "Transcriber". Now known as "voice recognition"!

    2. Re:Asimov by Yurian · · Score: 1

      As in the story where everyone depends on calculators, and doing math by hand is revolutionary (sorry if I forgot the name). Its called "The Feeling of Power", I think. It included in several of his collections. He originally wrote it as a joke, but it now has a grain of truth to it.

    3. Re:Asimov by FireCar · · Score: 1

      I know that, it takes me forever and a day to do long division by hand now. Our society has gotten too dependent on calculators, but shucks, they are just so much easier to use than God-Forsaken long division.

    4. Re:Asimov by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I know that this is the obvious thing to say, but hell, Isaac Asimov would be a great start in reading on things.

      Agreed. If you want technology, you need to read technological, i.e. hard science fiction. Asimov, Clarke, Heinlein et al.

      Others have mentioned Asimov's robot stories, and one point I always liked was that the robots were machines, created by engineers, invented for a purpose. They were designed to perform a function, not to demonstrate that There Are Things Man Was Not Meant To Know.

      One of my favourite visual records remains 2001. Check out the navigation displays in the spacecraft. Remember that this was 1968, when they had to be animated by hand and matted in to the film.

      I remember a few years ago when a newly launched amateur satellite proved to have sufficiently sensitive receivers that it could ba accessed with a handheld radio. One of the people who did the testing noted that he remembered the first person he had seen talking to a spacecraft with a handheld radio. His name was Captain Kirk.

      ...laura

    5. Re:Asimov by bobdehnhardt · · Score: 1

      As in the story where everyone depends on calculators and doing math by hand is revolutionary (sorry if I forgot the name).

      I believe that one was Heinlein, in his short story Misfit. Unless Asimov wrote one like that as well....

    6. Re:Asimov by Hiro+Antagonist · · Score: 2

      I know that this is the obvious thing to say, but hell, Isaac Asimov would be a great start in reading on things. His stories not only deal with technology, but how technology can get the better of us. As in the story where everyone depends on calculators and doing math by hand is revolutionary (sorry if I forgot the name). He not only shows us where we can go, but also where not to go.

      The title of the story about mankind re-discovering mathematics is called "The Feeling of Power".

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    7. Re:Asimov by Tassach · · Score: 2
      While Misfit does revolve around a central character with amazing native mathematical abilities, it's never implied in the story that "ordinary" people can't do math in their heads. (He repeated this theme in several other stories as well)

      Asimov did write a short story where the protagonist re-discovers pencil-and-paper math.

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    8. Re:Asimov by Mister_IQ · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nope, Misfit is about a math-whiz who steps in when a calculating computer fails, but the story is based on the fact that he is calculating massive amounts of equations in his head, not that he did math longhand, or that he even knew how.

      He's on an asteroid that they are moving, and the computer directing the jets dies. He steps in and starts dictating the firing times for the various bursts needed to put the asteroid in the new orbit.

      It's a story about a savant, not just someone who could do math.

      Sorry, not any new information, but should save one false lead.

    9. Re:Asimov by smcv · · Score: 1

      It's interesting that in The Feeling of Power, the guy who rediscovers arithmetic does so by reverse-engineering old obsolete computers and slowly working out how they do it :-)

    10. Re:Asimov by TeknoDragon · · Score: 2

      I remember that Asimov sotry... the corporate cronies think it would be cheaper to have a man inside a long range missle doing the calculations than to put a computer chip into them...

    11. Re:Asimov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That Asimov ever had an original idea, let alone invented something, isn't likely.

      His "doctorate", by the way, was honorary and awareded for fund raising.

    12. Re:Asimov by default+luser · · Score: 1

      2001 was not %100 done by hand. Those nifty computer consoles with the concentric circles were actually video rendered by computers at some university. The planets and other displays, of course, were all hand-drawn and looked spactacular. The computer display, IMHO, was meant to display the centrality and dependence of human beings on their tools. In the first part of the movie, the apes command the tools. In the second part, man comes to depend on his tools. Hence, the pilots just sitting there staring at the computer screen while the whole moon shuttle trip takes place. The final chapter of the film shows an attempt by the tool to command the man, and the battle that ensues. Kubrick was a genius.

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    13. Re:Asimov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read something in an Asimov novel once about an "electric staircase." I think we have those.

      Also, isn't there something to do with the word "calculator?" For some reason I am thinking that he was the first one to use that term.

    14. Re:Asimov by JimPooley · · Score: 2

      Amusing stuff, really, but he did coin the term Robot, if I recall correctly

      You recall incorrectly. I refer you to previous posts in this thread regarding Karol Capek, author of Rossum's Universal Robots.

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    15. Re:Asimov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not cheaper - more effective because less predictable

    16. Re:Asimov by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      > Remember that this was 1968, when they had to be
      > animated by hand and matted in to the film.

      And how would they know to simulate a computer's wireframe display before such a thing had been invented?

      Nah, IIRC there had been graphical interfaces allowing drawing and animation before this point in time, indeed mid 50's. A simple vector display probably could have been done by any EE freshman back then at a major U (CS and CE probably being a ways away from establishment.)

      In fact, look at how lame similar displays in Star Wars look today. Check out the famous tactical battle displays inside the Millenium Falcon as it escapes and the boys are manning the guns. By 1977 they could have done much better.

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    17. Re:Asimov by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      I liked his 30,000-year old galactic history in Foundation, where researchers used theories of "Millenial depth" in how deeply into the past they had to go to be guaranteed of not finding soloutions to the problems they were researching...

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    18. Re:Asimov by WinterSolstice · · Score: 1

      Yes, I did see that whole series of threads. After I posted, unfortunately. Well, that is why I try to distinguish opinions and hazy recollections from solid facts :)

      I am glad to now know the correct information on that tiny trivia fact, however.

      -WS

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  14. 1984 by Snar+Bloot · · Score: 3, Redundant

    Seriously. 1984.

    1. Re:1984 by ChazeFroy · · Score: 1

      Also "Brave New World," at least to a certain extent.

    2. Re:1984 by easter1916 · · Score: 1

      Substitute Prozac for Soma, true indeed.

    3. Re:1984 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      John Brunner's "Stand on Zanzibar", written in 1967, was more accurately prophetic about today's society.

    4. Re:1984 by famazza · · Score: 2

      I think that 1984 must be updated to 2004, or 2008.

      Then it'll be very very realistic.

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    5. Re:1984 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brave New World seems in many ways more accurate than 1984 to me. But what do I know, I'm Canadian. Brave New World was also the first or one of the first to accurately portray robots (see also Rossum's Universal Robots).

    6. Re:1984 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or ritalin
      Or kava kava
      Or percocet
      Or ..

      You get the point. America is a take a pill for it culture, addressing the symptoms but no the problems.

    7. Re:1984 by Hankenstein · · Score: 1


      I think 1984 is an interesting example
      of a negative influence on technology. I know
      whenever I read about Carnivore I
      have 1984 in the back of my mind.

      Full steam ahead with tech but don't
      let the government have any of the good stuff.

    8. Re:1984 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah - the German Democratic Republic was a test implementation, spying on most of its citizens, experimenting with the sense of smell and attempting to 'fingerprint' folks by their scent patterns, etc.

    9. Re:1984 by darkonc · · Score: 2

      I don't think that 1984's influence on technology was negative. It included a cautionary tail on the misuse of technology to opress people. I think that this is actually something positive.

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    10. Re:1984 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The parent shouldn't have been modded down. It is entirely true.

    11. Re:1984 by mgblst · · Score: 1

      or perhaps with recent events unfolding as they have, 2001 or 2002?

    12. Re:1984 by Kraft · · Score: 2

      Nopes, Soma was deliberately an impossible drug. Huxley (who knew his drugs, mind you :) wanted Soma to be non-earthly.

      In a 1960 interview he said*: "Soma is an imaginary drug with three different effects: euphoric, halluncinant, or sedative - an impossible combination."

      Dammit, we need more of his kind!!

      * From "Moksha - Aldous Huxley's classic writings on phychedelics and the visionary experience", p. 11.

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    13. Re:1984 by Hankenstein · · Score: 1

      Absolutely! My post was supposed to
      point out the difference between Sci-Fi inspiring
      creation of new and awesome ideas as opposed to
      Sci-Fi inspiring dread about misuse of those
      ideas. Negative in the sense that it pulled
      back on the reigns a bit which, as we saw recently
      in the .com fever, will always be needed from
      time to time.

    14. Re:1984 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought every literate nightclubber had already taken for granted that soma predictively describes ectasy . Especially when coupled with the "feelies". Posted AC because my employer reads /.

    15. Re:1984 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Ahem, no. 1984 was an anti-communist work. Communism is now a dead or dying ideology almost everywhere (and good riddance). You're entitled to despise our current political climate, but the bottom line is that me and (probably) you live in a free country, the press can and do say whatever they like, and if you speak up against the government you won't be jailed. That isn't anything like the scenario in 1984.

      And please, no mentions of the DMCA. It may be a slightly repressive law, but it is nothing compared to what a truly oppresive government does.

    16. Re:1984 by IainHere · · Score: 1

      In Brave New World, the British and German governments are brought down by anthrax bombs. Hence the quote: "Liberalism, of course, was dead of anthrax, but all the same you couldn't do things by force."

    17. Re:1984 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Visible Man (Published 1977)
      Edited by Gardner Dozois

      Dedicated to many (then) childern of the SF comunity "In the hopes they dont grow up in any of the worlds in this book."

      Sadly I see my name there, and then look around, I cant help but see one or more of those coming to pass.

      Demian Alexander Phillips

  15. The Man Who Sold The Moon - Heinlein by doubleyou · · Score: 2, Informative

    Heinlein was writing stories about going to the moon way before we actually did it. And as far as realism goes, he was pretty close to the mark (as opposed to say, Jules Verne, who also wrote about going to the moon, but wasn't quite as informed).

    1. Re:The Man Who Sold The Moon - Heinlein by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      Heinlein also wrote "Blowups Happen" back ca. WWII (?) wherein he describes a nuclear reactor that might go critical and blow up with a nuclear blast, and the FBI paid him a visit to find out how he knew such a thing could happen.

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    2. Re:The Man Who Sold The Moon - Heinlein by mmontour · · Score: 1

      Heinlein's "Let There Be Light" (in the same collection of stories copyright 1950, although it was probably written earlier) is about an inventor who develops materials that convert electricity to light, and light to electricity, at high efficiency. The materials are cheap enough that solar power becomes essentially a free source of energy (and the story deals with how the established power-generation industries react to his invention; hint: they're not pleased).

      I'm not sure exactly when it was written relative to the actual development of photovoltaic cells (used to generate power, not just as light sensors or physics experiments), electroluminescent backlights, LEDs, etc but it would be interesting to look it up.

  16. Jules Verne by GrEp · · Score: 2

    20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, rockets to the moon,... Jules Verne has to be the most visionary science fiction writer I can think of in recent history. Assimov and friends will take his place soon, but I don't think our tech has advanced far enough yet for that.

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    1. Re:Jules Verne by paranoic · · Score: 1

      Actually it was William Bourne in 1580 who first described a submarine. Then in 1623, Cornelius Drebbel built one.

    2. Re:Jules Verne by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1
      Anyway, it was written before there were submarines around.

      Actually, the first submarine attack (unsuccessful) was during the American Revolution, when a one-man underwater craft called (IIRC) the Turtle tried and failed to plant a charge on a British ship. The first successful use of a submarine was by the Confederacy during the American Civil War.

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  17. How about Asimov's Robots/AI? by metlin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Although some things stated by Asimov are quite out of this world, we _are_ having a lot of robotics going on around us, in some form of automation or the other.

    Sony's Aibo, cars & washing machines with computers built into them, automated support systems, expert systems (before someone yells that these things are not widely used in the industry, I'd like to let them know that I'm in the support industry working on automated-support query solving agents). And what about bots which crawl the web and gather data.

    We could go on and on, the basic fact is that although things like Daneel (or for that matter Marvin ;-) are not yet here, robotics and AI is a fast advancing field. Sure, no fancy AI taking over the world tomorrow, but the technology is so subtle that we do not notice it, or even if we do, not pay much attention to it.

    1. Re:How about Asimov's Robots/AI? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like Asimov as well as the next guy, however he was not first. The term robot was coined by Czech writer Josef Capek, popularized in his brother Karl's 1923 play, "Rossum's Universal Robots".

    2. Re:How about Asimov's Robots/AI? by metlin · · Score: 1

      Please read the article -

      "...what science-fiction novels have had a particularly noticeable effect on the development of technology..."
      I know that Asimov had not coined the word, nor do I mention so anywhere! What I meant was that we are increasingly becoming like the _Spacer_ worlds, more so Solaria-ish, in the sense that millions of people would rather watch TV and chat on the net, than go out with friends.

      We are increasingly dependent on our technology, and our nifty little gadgets. You may not have robots staring in your face right tomorrow, but when they really arrive, you'd not even have noticed. Unless of course when some depressed robot comes along complaining about those diodes of his ;-)

  18. Terminology more than fact... by wrinkledshirt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think Sci-Fi has had less to do with bringing about certain technologies (still waiting on my ansible) than it has on coining terms that have been applied to technologies.

    For instance, look at Neuromancer. It gave us the term "Cyberspace", which was cool, but then tried to convince us of a guy running around trying to fence one-megabyte ram sticks. Talk about dystopian...

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    1. Re:Terminology more than fact... by skroz · · Score: 2

      Oh yes, because an ansible would be SOOO useful to you right now. You could get your quake ping times down, I'll bet...

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    2. Re:Terminology more than fact... by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 2

      According to Relativity, faster than light comms can give NEGATIVE ping times!

      Now that I like...

      Know anyone selling Ansible by any chance? ;-)

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    3. Re:Terminology more than fact... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check Ebay for your Ansible needs!!

      Ebay bot

    4. Re:Terminology more than fact... by shogun · · Score: 1

      but then tried to convince us of a guy running around trying to fence one-megabyte ram sticks

      Hey he probably stole them from a museum, thats why he needs to fence them.

    5. Re:Terminology more than fact... by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      > Hey he probably stole them from a museum, thats why he needs to fence them.

      At least until they start showing up on Antiques Road Show.

      "See here, this is where someone poorly skilled with a soldering iron tried to insert a 'mod chip', as they were called. It would be worth much more without one. And you don't have the boxes or instruction booklets either."

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  19. Gargoyles by conraduno · · Score: 1

    Gargoyles - ok, this might be a more obscure reference. But the gargoyles from Neil Stephenson's Snow Crash have definately helped define the wearable computer look.

    1. Re:Gargoyles by Master+of+Kode+Fu · · Score: 1

      I think Stephenson also popularized the use of the term "avatar" as the user's on-line representation.

    2. Re:Gargoyles by CheeseMunkie · · Score: 1

      I remember the term Avatar from online personas back when I was in grade skewl on BBSs and MUDs... Stephenson may have popularised it, but he didn't coin it. (Also, I think some old SYSV systems used the name avatar for UID 0 instead of root.)

  20. Dune, by Frank Herbert by cjpez · · Score: 3, Funny
    How could you miss it? You know, the Spice Melange that keeps us alive and healthy well beyond when we should have died? Prescience? Any of this ringing a bell?

    ...

    Oh, right, that didn't actually happen, did it?

    1. Re:Dune, by Frank Herbert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      do you mean chili powder or
      curry powder. Or both?

    2. Re:Dune, by Frank Herbert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, silly.

      He obviously means coffee! The Spice of Life! Ground fine and brewed into a substance essential for transporting me from my bed to my computer each morning.

    3. Re:Dune, by Frank Herbert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, coffee is a weaker cousin of Niven's Tree of Life fruit. It makes me smarter, faster stronger in the morning. And if I drink too much of it, my ears start to ring and the Angels sing to me.


      All hail coffee!

    4. Re:Dune, by Frank Herbert by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1
      > Oh, right, that didn't actually happen, did it?

      Not yet, anyway. You just wait another 10,000 years.. ;)

      Fuzzy

    5. Re:Dune, by Frank Herbert by ArsonPerBuilding · · Score: 1

      >You just wait another 10,000 years..;)

      No. It is only 4000 years until the 2nd age of space. That is when stroon is avalible form Old North Australia.

      I hope someone gets this.

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  21. Its obvious by blues-l · · Score: 2, Funny

    Plan 9

  22. Woody Allen by Strange_Attractor · · Score: 1

    Came up with the idea for the Orgasmatron and the Orb...wake me when someone's built them!!!!

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    1. Re:Woody Allen by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      Damn. Someone beat me to this.

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  23. Two by Byteme · · Score: 2, Informative
    I, Robot by Isaac Asimov.

    Flash Gordon by Alex Raymond.

  24. Star Trek by SolidCore · · Score: 1

    Many may laugh at this but I think Star Trek has had a big influence on Science, Many Ideas have been models after these books and TV Shows. I.E. Ebooks.

    1. Re:Star Trek by BadDoggie · · Score: 2
      Actually, Star Trek was basically a way to put a lot of current affairs stories in a more palatable setting, such as Kirk kisses Uhuru or the White-on-the-Right-Side guys vs. the White-on-the-Left-Side. Not so bad if it's way off in the future. Spock Amok or whatever [1] was another. At least half the episodes were there to give Shatner a chance to kiss some hot chick in a miniskirt and go-go boots.

      There was certainly some pop science, but the show wasn't leading the way or subliminally teaching the masses. Stuff like Transporters and Tricorders and Communicators were rather simple Deus-Ex-Machina methods to deal with some general problems.

      "How do you land the ship?"
      "Umm... you don't have to. We can kinda land the people. Hell, send 'em wherever we want them to go."
      "'K."
      That's not to say Star Trek didn't influence a lot of us to at least have a greater interest in science (as if the Apollo program didn't do that already!), but all you have to do is think back to some episode like the giant amoeba in the center of a black hole to realise the closest that show came to serious science or science fiction was New York Post headlines. It was an adventure-soap opera. In space. And in the future.

      woof.

      [1] Yeah, I know... "Amok Time". Couldn't think of it at first, and my title's better.

    2. Re:Star Trek by susano_otter · · Score: 3, Funny

      "How do you land the ship?"
      "Umm... you don't have to. We can kinda land the people. Hell, send 'em wherever we want them to go."
      "'K."

      Of course this led to the amazing coincidence that ~50% of all planets have weird fields/mineral deposits/alien entities with the effect of completely neutralizing transporter technologies.

      I was suddenly picked up on this in Enterprise; I don't know why I hadn't seen it before. The transporter was an ad hoc solution to a design flaw that worked so well that they had to scramble for new deus ex machina transporter difficulties in every other episode.

      By now, it's almost canonical:
      1. Enterprise picks up a subspace distress call.
      2. Away team beams down.
      3. Red shirts die, Captain kisses girl.
      4. Transporter trouble prevents timely rescue of crew.
      5. Engineer modifies the main deflector to emit a tachyon pulse, solving the problem. He does this in 1/4 the amount of time expected.
      6. One week later, the crew of the Enterprise has forgotten the whole incident, but may make side remarks about events (shore leave, &c.) that did not occur in any episode.

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  25. Jules Verne by Erasei · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would have to say that the 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea by Jules Verne was my first real experience with science fiction. The book is set in 1866, I have no idea when it was written. I could probably find out on google, but I am lazy. Anyway, it was written before there were submarines around. Plus, it was a great book.

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  26. ST: TNG Technical Manual by x+mani+x · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Star Trek : The Next Generation Technical Manual

    While this book may be the inverse (or reverse?) of what you're looking for, it is extremely interesting, and will surely help you a lot from a research standpoint for your project. It is basically a detailed description of every technical aspect of the ST:TNG universe, which includes many convergences between science fact and science fiction.

    Also don't forget to note the name of the first space shuttle ever: The Enterprise.

    1. Re:ST: TNG Technical Manual by toupsie · · Score: 2
      Wasn't the first "Enterprise" ship the HMS Enterprise? It was commissioned on October 2, 1899 by the Royal Navy as a steam-powered screw tug. So maybe Star Trek stole from the Queen.

      Huh-Huh, I typed "screw tug".

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    2. Re:ST: TNG Technical Manual by crawling_chaos · · Score: 2, Insightful
      There was an Enterprise (a frigate, I think) in what became the US Navy during the Revolutionary War. It was a lucky ship, and the name has been considered lucky since. Considering that the WWII carrier was at one point the only US aircraft carrier operating in the Pacific (the rest were damaged or sunk), the reputation sort of stuck.

      I would not be at all suprised to see the Navy commission another Enterprise, even if it's a patrol craft, when they finally retire the Big E. Sailors are a superstitious lot.

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    3. Re:ST: TNG Technical Manual by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2
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    4. Re:ST: TNG Technical Manual by JordoCrouse · · Score: 1

      Every major ship of a radically new technology in the United States arsenal is named Enterprise. for example, the first nuclear powered aircraft carrier was called Enterprise.

      The tradition started with a super fast wooden schooner (of what type I am unsure) which was never duplicated because somebody lost the plans (doh!).

      I believe that there have been eight crafts of various types named Enterprise, but I am unsure. I read this a long time ago in Uncle John's Bathroom Reader, so I am a bit hazy on the details. Can anyone confirm?

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    5. Re:ST: TNG Technical Manual by Courageous · · Score: 3, Interesting


      The Star Trek universe is mostly science fantasy. It's all made-up wizardry cloaked in technical-seaming mumbo-jumbo.

      C//

    6. Re:ST: TNG Technical Manual by Migelikor1 · · Score: 1

      How bout the Nautilus (first nuke sub)? Or first tank? (unnamed design-just called armored cavalry vehicle) And actually, the shuttle was named after the TV show...it was supposed to be called the Constitution. see this link: http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/resources/orbi ters/enterprise.html

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    7. Re:ST: TNG Technical Manual by toupsie · · Score: 2

      Thanks! I knew there had to be an "Enterprise" before 1899 but I couldn't resist typing "screw tug" -- a rough day coming back to work after the week off and needed a stupid juvenile giggle.

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    8. Re:ST: TNG Technical Manual by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the occasional saliva-laden lesbian kiss.

      I was so hoping that 7 would hook up with Janeway. It's clear Janeway's got some...deep feelings for her.

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    9. Re:ST: TNG Technical Manual by Courageous · · Score: 2

      Janeway. 7. And a banana. Oh yeah, that does it for me.

      Speaking of all that, am I the only one who wouldn't mind putting Janeway over a table. She's all stuffy and needs a real good shelacking.

      :)

      C//

  27. Clarke + Communications Satellites by yardgnome · · Score: 2

    I'm sure /. will be inundated by people making this connection, but Arthur C. Clarke came up with the idea for communications satellites in geostationary orbits in 1945 (about 25 years before their actual use). However, his idea wasn't outlined in a novel, but in his paper, "Extra-terrestrial Relays. Which is still an interesting read, almost 57 years after its publishing.

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  28. Jules Verne and Nuclear Subs by PackMan97 · · Score: 1

    Jules Verne had the idea for nuclear subs way back when. Maybe not current enough for you, but definitely a great example.

    1. Re:Jules Verne and Nuclear Subs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Jules Verne had the idea for nuclear subs way back when.

      Nope, reread the book; he had the idea for electrically powered submarines, and could mine the ocean for the needed elements, making for practically limitless supplies for the engine.

  29. Jargon File / New Hacker's Dictionary by obtuse · · Score: 1

    You'll find lots of etymology in the Jargon file, including the origin many words taken from literature.

    I own a copy of the printed book, because I enjoy browsing it so much.

    http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/

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  30. Arthur C Clarke by abde · · Score: 3, Insightful


    He predicted the Y2K problem (Ghost from the Grand Banks), and communications satellites (The Fountains of Paradise), and also invented the concept of the space elevator. He didnt invent the AI, but he certainly popularized the concept in film and text (2001 A Space Odyssey). Not to mention a realistic look at the role large corporations would play in space travel (Pan Am flights to the Space Station). I've never read The Deep Range, but it is supposed to be quite visionary as well regarding undersea exploration.

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    1. Re:Arthur C Clarke by F34nor · · Score: 1

      Jackass...

      The Fountains of Paradise is about collapsed bucky balls spun into nano tubes to creat the space elevator or a LEO space crane.

    2. Re:Arthur C Clarke by JoeD · · Score: 1

      He described communications satellites, but that was back in the late 40s/early 50s. "Fountains of Paradise" was published in the 80s, and concerned the space elevator.

      He didn't come up with the idea of the space elevator, though. That idea was first proposed in 1895 by Tsiolkovsky.

    3. Re:Arthur C Clarke by F34nor · · Score: 1

      Is the diamond fiber that matters. Nano tubes will change the world far more than any other creation of man.

    4. Re:Arthur C Clarke by halothane · · Score: 1

      "Fountains of Paradise" actually featured space towers using carbon nanotubes.

      Communication satellites were actually described by him in a technical paper he wrote to a radio hobbyist magazine, I think.

    5. Re:Arthur C Clarke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geo-sync comm satellites are first(?) mentioned, I think (am I being wishy-washy enough?) in the story about the kid who won a trip into a space. Damned if I can remember the name, though.

    6. Re:Arthur C Clarke by theantix · · Score: 1

      Maybe you didn't read the article. It was asking for links between scifi and real world technology. The AI portrayed by 2001 is remarkable unsimilar to "real-world" AI. The Y2K problem isn't technlogy, so it doesn't really fit. The space elevator doesn't exist in the real world. Corporate space travel as seen in 2001 doesn't exist in the real world. So the only item remaining on your list is communications satellites, which actually is a real-world technlogy.

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    7. Re:Arthur C Clarke by zipwow · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you need to settle down.

      Calling people a "jackass" for missing some details while trying to be helpful isn't really called for here.

      How about, "I don't think this is correct.." or maybe, even just the facts?

      I don't have a problem with correcting people, just try not to be a jackass yourself about it.

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    8. Re:Arthur C Clarke by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

      He invented communications satellites MUCH earlier than fountains of paradise. He invented them in either "Islands in the sky", or in his non-SF "The Exploration of Space", I can't remember which.

      He popularized the Space Elevator in "Fountains of Paradise", but it was invented by Yuri Artusonov (sp?).

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    9. Re:Arthur C Clarke by Irvu · · Score: 1

      According to this the geosynchronous satellite prediction came in an article for "Wireless World" circa 1945. The idea of Satellites preceeeded the article. Clarke's innovation was in predicting one that could center over the earth with a definite period and predicting the benefit (predictable point to point communications) that they would provide. Now the worldwide telecommunications infrastructure, and thus the modern global economy, depends upon them.

    10. Re:Arthur C Clarke by AnalogBoy · · Score: 2

      Clarke was published in "Wireless World" 1945 about the possibility of global communications using only 3 satellites. Today most satellites are placed in Geosynchronous [Geostationary] orbit, nicknamed the clarke orbit, at approximately 22,300 miles above the equator.

      Clarks original paper can be found here

    11. Re:Arthur C Clarke by p24t · · Score: 1

      Well, Mr. Clarke did not concieve of the space elevator. In the acknowledgements from The Fountains of Paradise, he attributes the idea to a Leningrad engineer, Y.N. Artsutanov (Komsomolskaya Pravada, 31 July 1960) who named the device a "Heaveanly funicular," envisioning it to life no less than twelve thousand tons per day to a synchronous orbit. Clarke may have popularized the idea a bit, however.

      In Imperial Earth, Clarke used the idea of a VLA. (very large array, many satellite dishes acting as one) Though the book was released in 1976, and it is probably that the VLA was alrady under construction at this time.

      Clarke did indeed publish a paper on the theory of communication satellites in 1945, hence the 'Clarke Orbit' for satellites. In Prelude to Space, written just two years later, "[Prelude to Space] was probably the first work of fiction in which the idea of comsats was advocated." (Prelude to Mars, 1965) Also in that book, Clarke used the idea of a launch track for a rocket, which NASA has considered for use. The spacecraft in this book consisted of two parts, one that would, once put in space, would stay there, and the second that was a transport vehicle from the Earth's surface to its partner in orbit. The idea of multi-part spacecraft has been used, albeit not in the exact same way, from the lunar missions to the space shuttle and the ISS.

      Then, of course, there's 2001. Ideas used here include videophones, voice print identification, and charge cards (see the videophone scene). There's also the use of 'space food' - the liquid food packets on the Pan Am flight. Also on Discovery 1, HAL played one of the first games of man vs. computer chess. (Deep Blue eat your heart out)

      As for so many of the other ideas, they're not science fact quite yet. Don't forget, nothing is impossible until it's possible.

    12. Re:Arthur C Clarke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was a problem in Y2K?

  31. Go with the classic masters: Clarke, Asimov by Pyromage · · Score: 1

    For some very very high-impact affects, check out some of the old-school sci-fi masters. Ever heard of Clarke Orbit? Also known as geosynchronous orbit (but shorter), it was originally Arthur C. Clarke's idea for stationary communications satalites. For another big one, try Asimov's robots: He invented the concept on his own: it's his word, and he created the concept. The newer sci-fi isn't going to be of much use, I think. But look at some of the much older stuff. Those are the only two examples I can think of off the top of my head, but I bet Heinlein did something.

    Or, on the other hand, if you can be satinfied with sci-fi influencing/predicting the real non-tech world, what about Orwell? 1984 is more relevant now than ever, even if it's not a technology impact. Bradbury, et al. may be useful.

    Just my 2c.

    1. Re:Go with the classic masters: Clarke, Asimov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Robots go back much further than Asimov - check other threads here for references. Asimov created the term robotics.

  32. How can you demonstrate anything? by LordNimon · · Score: 2
    Unless you actually talk to the inventors of these devices, you'll never know whether they were influenced by science fiction. I think you're making a big leap, here:
    • Work of science fiction describing some future technology is released
    • Some years later, a device similar to the aforementioned technology is released
    • You're assuming the latter stems from the former
    Who's to say that the "inventor" of the cell phone got the idea from watching Star Trek? Maybe he got the idea from Dick Tracy? Or maybe it's just a natrual evolution of the technology? <SARCASM> Gee, a portable, wireless telephone - what a crazy idea! Thank god for Gene Rodenberry, or we'd never have anything like that! </SARCASM>
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    1. Re:How can you demonstrate anything? by sphealey · · Score: 2

      I had a lot of classmates who started with Motorla Cellular very early in the mobile phone game (and who have mostly been made redundent in the last six months). It was almost an article of corporate culture at Motorola that the StarTac (the first miniature flip phone) was specifically designed to look like a communicator from Star Trek, and that had been an explicit goal of their design engineering groups for quite a while.

      sPh

    2. Re:How can you demonstrate anything? by Selanit · · Score: 1

      Well, obviously not EVERY piece of new technology derives from an example in SF. And you are right, pinning down precisely whether a given piece of equipment was inspired by a specific story will be hard.

      On the other hand, there are sure to be SOME verifiable examples. To find such things, one must look. Hence my question to Ask Slashdot, a group of people likely to provide interesting leads which can be followed up and checked out later.

      Even when there is no direct connection, the fact that a piece of fiction toyed with an idea for technology that later appeared in real life can reveal some interesting things about the development of our technological society over the last few decades. First you look at the machines that appeared in the stories, and what effect they had on their societies. Then you turn around and look at our society, and compare notes. What machines have been discussed in fiction that now exist in fact? Are the devices being used in the ways the various authors envisioned? Why or why not? How accurate or inaccurate is the author's vision of the effect of Technology-Foobar on people's habits of thought and action?

      Regardless of whether I "prove" anything or not, the research will be interesting. :-)

    3. Re:How can you demonstrate anything? by zeno_2 · · Score: 1

      I dont think the poster is looking for what you are saying here.. I mean, you cant really say, "without startrek we would not have cell-phones".

      I believe what he is asking.. is have you ever read any sort sci-fi book where future technology is portrayed, and that technology has come about in recent years.. not that the original author of the book had any thing to do with the invention, but just seeing some of those new technologies come to light that we once thought were only part of a sci-fi world..

    4. Re:How can you demonstrate anything? by jafac · · Score: 2

      And the StarTac phone is really the ONLY decent cell phone "form factor" out there. All the others store too large, and deploy too small.

      There were earlier "flip phones" - that had a useless piece of plastic that flipped out, but did nothing (but break). Looking at those I just had to laugh. But the StarTac stores small, that is, doesn't stick out of my pocket, but it deploys (unfolds) large enough to actually cover the distance between my ear and mouth. And the actual piece that unfolds has actual working electronic parts in it.
      As an added bonus, the antenna actually points AWAY from the user's head, which, if nothing else, keeps down the incidence of fear of brain cancer. (though it actually DOES reduce the amount of energy that is transmitted to the brain compared to other designs).

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    5. Re:How can you demonstrate anything? by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      > the StarTac (the first miniature flip phone) was
      > specifically designed to look like a communicator
      > from Star Trek

      And that the rights to use "Star Trek" probably fell thru quickly. It seemed obvious to me when I first saw one, but one guy I know who got one (a PhD from MIT in EE) was surprised when I suggested that analogy. Go figure.

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  33. Robert Heinlein (sp?) by darthtuttle · · Score: 1

    One of Robert Heinlein's books (Stranger in a Strange Land possibly?) contained the idea of the waterbed in it. Because it was published before anyone could "invent" the waterbed there was no way for anyone to get a patent on it. Eventually people started making them. This is one example of real life imitating art.

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    1. Re:Robert Heinlein (sp?) by PortHaven · · Score: 1

      Actually, if I recall correctly Heinlein dealt with quite a few things ahead of his time. The waterbed being one. I think he also referred to a data crystal for data storage (um, a few companies are toying with 3D storage mediums). And some of the concepts in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" don't quite exist yet. But may see fruitation. Things like magnetic rail guns. (Though I believe we'll see them on battleships before we see them in peaceful use.)

      Let's not forget some of the things which have been mentioned in his books but haven't been seen. The 4-Dimensional structure. Interesting concept, or his time paradox where the person is all his/her known relatives. Although, we may not ever see these things in such a high level we are starting to see ourselves doing such things on the atomic and sub-atomic levels. Pushing electrons into other dimensions. Manipulated particles, etc. It will be interesting to see.

      As for Star Trek, as I understand it they advanced the medical bed as well. Changing the concept of it from just a bed to a whole working diagnostic tool. *shrug* And we should all know by now that if they had trouble getting a communicator signal we can't expect anything less from our cell phones. *grin*

      Um...(I am still wish they explained Star Trek toilet facilities and technologies in more detail...)

    2. Re:Robert Heinlein (sp?) by TeknoDragon · · Score: 2

      patents, latex rubber, and water all existed at that time... weren't water beds invented in the 60's? that's not too long after Stranger...

    3. Re:Robert Heinlein (sp?) by TeknoDragon · · Score: 2

      don't forget Heinlein's generational INCEST (Laz's grandmother as well as twin daughters?) and barely teen girl PEDOPHILIA, brought to you by the magic of that old perv's immagination!

      he also did a great job describing corruption in evangelistic churches... long before Pat Robertson could show the world how it was done!

    4. Re:Robert Heinlein (sp?) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RAH mentions this in Expanded Universe -
      the first company that built and sold waterbeds
      was named Share-Water(something) and offered him
      a free one. He had to decline, no room for it in his house at the time.

    5. Re:Robert Heinlein (sp?) by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      And let's not forget Heinlein's greatest fictional sexual conquest, his own gorgeous, red-haired mother, who he wailed on on a regular basis.

      Of course, he used the argument that it was 2000 years ago, after all, and he couldn't even remember what she looked like, so he went for it when the chance arose.

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    6. Re:Robert Heinlein (sp?) by TeknoDragon · · Score: 2

      Yes, that was Lazarus's grandmother, one of the *trans*generational incests I mentioned. I think you might read "To Sail Beyond The Sunset" and get it from Maureen's perspective. They both knew what they were doing ;->

    7. Re:Robert Heinlein (sp?) by TeknoDragon · · Score: 2

      wait... you're right, it was his mother not grandmother...

  34. A classic in the field by BillyGoatThree · · Score: 1, Troll

    "CyberCheating" by Joe Schmoe, written in 1988. He details a world-wide "web" of computers devoted to doing other people's homework. Today's version of that technology: Ask Slashdot

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    1. Re:A classic in the field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fucking sweet! Mod this mutha fucka up up up!

    2. Re:A classic in the field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He asked for a recommendation of books, not for us to do his project for him, numbnut. Why not get the opinions of 100s of geeks who have collectively read more than any one person probably has?

  35. Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card by mscherotter · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ender's game details a future earth with a worldwide "internet" which allows people (in this case children) to communicate and express their ideas anonymously and let the quality of their ideas, not their age, determine their acceptance.

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    1. Re:Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, in the 3 books following Ender's Game, Ender has a sentient computer in a jewel in his ear. Very similar to the computers you can wear as an earpiece and tiny screen in front of one of your eyes. I know these arent big yet, but they do exist

    2. Re:Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card by kasparov · · Score: 1

      I believe Ender's Game came out in the early '90s ('91 maybe). "Predicting" the Internet in 1991 would really not be too difficult, considering it was already there. You might not have been browsing web pages, but IRC, newsgroups, etc. were all there.

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    3. Re:Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK, '85. See above comment.

    4. Re:Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card by kashani · · Score: 2, Interesting

      John Brunner's Shockwave rider would be a better book to read for this. Written in the early 70's. Worldwide data nets and worms attacking data.

      -kashani

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    5. Re:Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and a rattlin good book, besides! :-)

    6. Re:Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card by Elgon · · Score: 1

      Nope he doesn't,

      the computer in question "Jane" (I think) is actually "in" all the ansible-linked computers across the various worlds: The jewel is merely a communicator.

      Gaz

    7. Re:Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It Appeared in "Analog" in Aug, 1977

    8. Re:Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card by JimPooley · · Score: 2

      Spot on. Brunner has something very much like the internet in this book. OK, so the tech isn't right - they punch in numbers on the telephone to do stuff, but otherwise, it's as close to the internet as anything else that predates it, and closer than most.

      I suggest people stop whelping on about Gibson, and read Brunner's The Shockwave Rider instead.

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  36. Sci Fi by Noodlenose · · Score: 1

    The German Author Hans Dominik predicted and described in the early twenties of the last century the development of oil platforms, super sonic jet planes and nuclear reactors. Noodlenose

  37. Put Your Hand In The Box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "Put your hand in the box."
    "What's in the box?"
    "Pain."

    Yep, that pretty much describes my cube at work, except it's not just my hand, but rather my whole body that ends up hurting at the end of the day. Damn you, cheap furniture and crappy lighting! Damn you all to hell!

    ;-)

    1. Re:Put Your Hand In The Box by imrdkl · · Score: 1
      Every once in awhile, management get's to feel my Gom Jabar, too.

      "Look in that place where you dare not look. You'll find me staring back at you!"

      They usually don't question my release plan anymore after that. :{)

  38. Gibson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anything by William Gibson. The man is a freakin' prophet. A few years ago he sat down and started writing today.

  39. Earth, by David Brin by Nick+Arnett · · Score: 2, Informative

    A venture capitalist suggested that I read Brin's "Earth" years ago. Since then, I've re-read it twice, getting more out of it each time. A lot of the ideas he covered as non-fiction in "The Transparent Society" were present in "Earth." Of course, it's hard to measure how much Brin influenced the world with his vision of the effects of networking, v. how much he simply foresaw many of its effects. I know it influenced me considerably and I passed on many of the ideas in my talks at many of the early Web-related conferences.

  40. GIS and MapQuest by Alomex · · Score: 2
    This short story by Jorge Luis Borges, which I read as a youngster many years back, always seemed prescient to me when it comes to Mapquest and other GIS'es:


    ...In that Empire, the craft of Cartography attained such Perfection that the Map of a Single province covered the space of an entire City, and the Map of the Empire itself an entire Province. In the course of Time, these Extensive maps were found somehow wanting, and so the College of Cartographers evolved a Map of the Empire that was of the same Scale as the Empire and that coincided with it point for point. Less attentive to the Study of Cartography, succeeding Generations came to judge a map of such Magnitude cumbersome, and, not without Irreverence, they abandoned it to the Rigours of sun and Rain. In the western Deserts, tattered Fragments of the Map are still to be found, Sheltering an occasional Beast or beggar; in the whole Nation, no other relic is left of the Discipline of Geography. From Travels of Praiseworthy Men (1658) by J. A. Suarez Miranda. The piece was written by Jorge Luis Borges and Adolfo Bioy Casares. English translation quoted from J. L. Borges, A Universal History of Infamy, Penguin Books, London, 1975.

  41. bugger...I type to slow - redundant comment by PackMan97 · · Score: 1

    don't waste yer mod points.

  42. Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson by electric_penguin · · Score: 1

    The Handheld
    Distributed wireless networks

  43. not always. by geekoid · · Score: 2

    Did the flip out phone come directly from ST or did they just have the same obstical to overcome and the results are just similar?
    Science fiction sparks the imagination with ideas, and certianly alows people in science to say "WOW, thats a good idea, lets see if its possible".
    Science fiction went to the moon first that does not mean someone watched the movies and said, "Hey, lets go to the moon".
    I can think of a few things that did come from Sci-Fi, and links to them, but I refuse to do your work for you.

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  44. Another Ask Slashdot to do someones homework by vtechpilot · · Score: 1

    Boycott this ask Ask Slashdot. It is not our job to do someone elses homework. (unless they plan on paying us.)

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    1. Re:Another Ask Slashdot to do someones homework by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha, the developers of GNU software should use this mentality.

    2. Re:Another Ask Slashdot to do someones homework by vtechpilot · · Score: 1

      Ha, the developers of GNU software should use this mentality.

      Doing your homework to get your degree and writing free software are not very comparable. He is supposed to do the work to get the degree, even if that means duplicating work that someone else has already done. GNU software on the otherhand by its own nature avoids duplicating work.

      Sharing work to complete a task is acceptable. Sharing work to improve, or prove and individuals skills is not acceptable.

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    3. Re:Another Ask Slashdot to do someones homework by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Research is asking people for their opinions and knowledge... I declare you ignorant and pompous.

    4. Re:Another Ask Slashdot to do someones homework by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GNU software on the otherhand by its own nature avoids duplicating work.

      Geez. How could any statment be more wrong?

      GNU software by it's own nature is always a copy, a duplicate, of something somebody wrote before.

      There is almost never anything new in GNU. It's cloner stuff.

    5. Re:Another Ask Slashdot to do someones homework by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not RTFA and learn the difference between "asking opinions" and "doing a project."

    6. Re:Another Ask Slashdot to do someones homework by festers · · Score: 1


      GNU software by it's own nature is always a copy, a duplicate, of something somebody wrote before.

      There is almost never anything new in GNU. It's cloner stuff.


      You can say that about almost *every* piece of software out there. Heck, you can say that about most products. Everyone builds off the work and ideas of others, "there is nothing new under the sun."

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    7. Re:Another Ask Slashdot to do someones homework by meadowsp · · Score: 1

      Yes, but surely it's bad research to "Ask Slashdot" and expect to get any sensible opinions and knowledge. (And BTW anyone who declares people pompous had better check themselves first)

    8. Re:Another Ask Slashdot to do someones homework by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BS. You don't HAVE to answer y'know.
      People answering to Ask Slashdot like wouldn't answer if they didn't want to.

      On another note:
      I think SciFi can set trends or pick up trends from other SciFi books/movies. One mention of device x in a book doesn't usually make the people want to have device x. But the more attention device x is given the more the public wants to 'have' it.

  45. Maybe? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Tranformers counted as literature, then the Chevy Avalanche could be an example.

  46. Novels? TV? Film? Influence or just Foreshadowing? by Hanno · · Score: 2

    You ask for novels, yet your example is taken from a TV series. So, which do you prefer? And which medium do you believe is more influental?

    Secondly, I believe that your choice of Star Trek's communicator isn't actually a good example.

    I wasn't born then, but I guess that Walkie Talkies and CB radio or their equivalent existed back then, so it doesn't require much effort to imagine a much smaller version of such a device.

    It'd be much more interesting to find out about devices or procedures that can be traced back to SciFi that were not just foreshadowing advanced versions of an existing technology.

    (I'll answer your question about SciFi devices in real life in another post, since I want to look for some sources to back up these claims... :-)

    Btw, being a SF-nut, one interesting thing I noticed about SciFi movies: You can always tell their production era by looking at hairstyles and makeup. Hardly any SF movie has the guts to do something completely out-of-fashion when it comes to the looks of actresses and actors.

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  47. Spock presenting something to Kirk by Quebec · · Score: 1
    What I can remember from an original 60's Star Trek episode is Spock saying this:


    "This [device?] contains a million data"


    And I remember clearly Spock presenting a square piece of plastic about the same size and look of a nowadays common 1.44MB diskette without the metal slider door.

    1. Re:Spock presenting something to Kirk by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      You might be thinking of Nurse Chapel talking to some injured guest star, "This &lt whatever it was > has one word on it: EAT!"

      I do find the little plug-and-play memory cards they used being a little prescient with floppies, swappable micro hard drives, and flash RAMs.

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  48. Novels have no effect upon scientific development by scotpurl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Scientists and inventors do not scour literature looking for devices and ideas to turn from fantasy into reality, which means that Sci-Fi has had zero effect upon what gadgets get invented.

    More simply, engineers don't sit around waiting for writers to come up with the ideas.

    A better thesis would be, "What ideas have been foretold by science fiction writers years before technology made it possible?"

    Or, "Since writers tend to take the social aspects of technology under consideration more often than engineers, what novels and authors have correctly identified social and techonological necessities long before engineers invented the device that created the situation?"

  49. Robots by MarkusQ · · Score: 2
    Also, although its been probably written 20 times by the time I write this, Asimov is often credited with inventing the term "robot".

    If so, he is credited incorrectly. For the term "robot," try Lem instead. Asimov is known for "the three laws of robotics" which, IIRC, were actually devised by Campbell

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    1. Re:Robots by GTRacer · · Score: 2
      Close, but I I RC, he's credited with "robotics", not "robot".

      And MarcusQ, I thought he co-developed the 3 Laws with Campbell...

      GTRacer
      - Humans would be better off if they were robots like me

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    2. Re:Robots by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 5, Informative
      For the term "robot," try Lem instead.
      None of the above. "R.U.R (Rossum's Universal Robots)", Karl Capek, 1920; his Robots are biological, not electromechanical.

      Here is one translation of the Czech play.

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    3. Re:Robots by CorporateProgrammerD · · Score: 1

      Why don't I have mod points when I need them?

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    4. Re:Robots by Eugene+O'Neil · · Score: 1

      I was just reading Asimov's autobiography, so this is still fresh in my memory. Asimov is credited with first using the term "robotics", but he was as suprised as anyone else to discover that nobody else had thought of it first.

      As for the laws of robotics, Campbell was the first to articulate them explicitly, but he drew his inspiration for the laws from Asimov's writing.

    5. Re:Robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not too sure about that. It might have been Karl Capek in R.U.R.

    6. Re:Robots by zoward · · Score: 1

      I beliebve his name was acutally Karel Capek. He'd written several novels that would be construed as SF at the time; the only one I've ever actually seen in print was "War with the Newts".

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    7. Re:Robots by rhinoman455 · · Score: 1

      I believe he invented the term 'robotics'. He states this in his intro for I, Robot.

    8. Re:Robots by CaseStudy · · Score: 2

      Closer. Try Capek's "R.U.R."

    9. Re:Robots by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Actually, calling it an 'invention' is a bit silly. He just used the word 'robotics'. He was quite surprised later on when he was informed he was credited with inventing it, he thought it already was a word!

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    10. Re:Robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Asimov invented the word "Robotics", which he used for the first time in his 3rd short story (called "Speedy", I think. All about a mining station on Mercury, and a robot named Speedy that got stuck in an infinite loop). The Oxford Little English dictionary credits him with this word, and also quotes the 3 Laws.

    11. Re:Robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We actually did this play in my high school, I was in it. Robot comes from the Czech word for worker. In the play the robots take over all labor of humans. By the end, humans are pretty much obsolete. Then this girl (daughter of the president of the world) convinces Dr. Gaul to make a robot with emotions, and (surprise!) he gets mad at being exploited, starts a revolution, and... read the play.

    12. Re:Robots by GTRacer · · Score: 2
      Maybe "calling it an 'invention' is a bit silly", but he did use it first. He just didn't know he did.

      Many words are invented by writers. This one just seems to be less abstract than others.

      GTRacer
      - You'd think Asimov would've finished his bio by now...

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    13. Re:Robots by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      Poor little Speedy, kept running close to that volcano or puddle of lead or whatever it was, under order of the humans, until he got so close his self protection mechanism kicked in and he went away again, until he was far enough away, thus safe enough, that his protection threshold dropped below his obey-humans threshold and he headed in again.

      I imagine a futuristic sex bot and Roseann Barr IV having much the same problem...

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  50. The term Robot by Yurian · · Score: 1

    Just on that last bit - Asimov may have popularized "robot" in its current sense, but he didn't invent the word - he says so himself in a few of his introductions.
    Its originally from a Czechslovakian play written around 1900 or so. It means "slave"/"menial worker" in Czech.

    Horrah for pointless asides.

  51. Michael Moorcock: "The Sundered Worlds" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Moorcock wrote this space opera in the early sixties, in which the survivors of humanity shunt their ships from their collapsing universe into another only to run into an alien race that challenges the humans to a game of altered realities where images and emotions are weapons: the "Blood Red Game". Sounds a bit like pencil & paper RPGs and VR to me.

    Then again, I happen to be stoned.

  52. Gibson's Neuromancer... by Hulleye · · Score: 1

    is responsible for a large amount of the VR research that is currently going on (Jaron Lanier et al.) also, there is some research being conducted to allow blind people to "see" by connecting their optic pathways directly to some kind of video input.... this too was credited to Gibson as being the main influence.

  53. Neuromancer by MOMOCROME · · Score: 1

    Perhaps not as influential as it was prophetic, but here are a few of the many entertaining elements made real with each passing year: First, the term 'cyberspace' is coined here (or was it in an earlier short story?) and the rowdy, lawless net culture that we have today us described in detail. Second, the visualization of data as high-res 3D abstraction is presented as the main interface to this new 'cyberspace', and this was in 1983, long before even the first vga adaptor. While we still primarilly rely on CLIs and window systems to manipulate data, this does describe the 3D games that are played today rather well. Large polygonal objects projected in perspective was not commonplace technology 20 years ago.

    Third, the fragmentation of the US by corporate influence is held as an obvious trend, something again that is coming to pass with each mega-merger we see in the news. AOL/TW anyone? Microsoft? oh, the list goes on. Gibson is loosing his edge with the younger generation taking his works for granted, even un-inspired. They fail to grasp how utterly amazingly accurate many of his early 80's predictions have come to pass.

  54. Heinlein by TrumpetPower! · · Score: 2

    Heinlein, especially in his early years, is full of technology that is commonplace today that was pie-in-the-sky when he wrote it. He just didn't always call it by the same names we do today.

    I'd have to go digging for specific technologies in specific titles, but it's all good-to-great reading anyway.

    Expect to find mobile phones, faxes, video phones, voice dictation, computers of various intelligences, maglev, flywheels for energy storage (we use 'em as a UPS in datacenters; he used 'em in spaceships), sophisticated chemical synthesis (Venusians making real maple syrup from a sample), all sorts of rocketry and space tech, and lots more.

    Also good is Niven, though more of his things (such as matter transporters and indestructible ship hulls) are still in the distant future. Zahn likes to take some form of technology, such as $6M-Man-like soldiers (Cobra et al.) and see what it might do to people and society--you get a chapter or two of a space western and the rest of the book of social analysis and commentary.

    Sounds like a fun project, if for no other reason than the reading list!

    b&

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    1. Re:Heinlein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I was recently rereading some early Heinlein (Have Space Suit, Will Travel?), the opening scene is a boy on a horse in the desert. Then, his phone rings and he answers it. I read right through this before realizing that this was SF when it was written (imagine talking on the phone while riding a horse!), but completely commonplace today.

    2. Re:Heinlein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      ..it was in "Between Planets".

      1st appearance of the water bed was in
      "Beyond This Horizon", not SIASL.

      My favorite SF prediction...Keith Laumer, in
      "A Plague of Demons", predicted Chevrolet would make a car called the Chevette...many years before it actually happened...

    3. Re:Heinlein by scotch · · Score: 1
      Yeah, If I see one more person on a horse talking on his cell phone, I may go 'postal'. These rude horseback riders are the scourge of American trails, fields, and horse-approved beaches. They pay no attention to other horses, riders, or other livestock, they rarely signal, and in general ride like they have their heads up their horse's ass. I just put an ass-sticker on my horse that says "hang up and ride". Funny, but hopefully it will make those rude riders sit up and take notice.

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    4. Re:Heinlein by TrumpetPower! · · Score: 1

      For what it's worth, when I first read that story (it could be Have Space Suit, Will Travel, but I'm not sure, either), my first reaction was something like, ``yeah, sure, like that'll happen any time soon.'' It must have been the early eighties. A big part of the thought was that telephones were nothing like CB or walkie-talkies, and the idea of having a handheld two-way radio with its own unique telephone number just didn't seem feasible.

      Keep in mind that, at that time, wireless was broadcast-only and wired was point-to-point only...and that I probably wasn't yet a teenager.

      b&

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  55. patent on satellites by Alien54 · · Score: 2
    Arthur C. Clarke had the idea for geosynchronous satellites

    If I understand correctly, his description was so good that he actually has a patent on the darn things.

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    1. Re:patent on satellites by MrFredBloggs · · Score: 1

      You`re not awarded patents on the grounds of good descriptions, are you? I thought you had to apply for one.

    2. Re:patent on satellites by Alien54 · · Score: 5, Informative
      there is this version of the story

      http://www.globalideasbank.org/BOV/BV-393.HTML

      The biggest problem about getting science fiction applied in what is laughingly called 'the real world' is the old Catch-22. It is best exemplified by Arthur C. Clarke's explanation of why he is not rather better off than he actually is. When he first had the idea of the communications satellite, he tried to get it patented. 'Come, come, Mr Clarke,' said the people at the Patent Office. 'We're a serious outfit, we haven't got time to waste on fantastic ideas like this.' Years later, when the first satellite (with which Arthur was actively involved) actually went up, and the nations were queuing to get their own satellites up, Arthur went back to the Patent Office. 'But, Mr Clarke,' they said, 'the satellite already exists. You should have come to us earlier.'

      Typical Bureaucratic bungling.

      and there is more:

      The very first paper describing the very first constellation, consisting of three satellites in geostationary orbit. Allegedly the only accurate science-fiction prediction ever. Authored by the famous Arthur C. Clarke, before the space race, before Sputnik 1, and before Arthur C. Clarke became a famous author. (There's a mirror of the paper. And now we call it the Clarke orbit, and you can simulate the original proposal.

      This Page also discusses the legal issues because at the time Clarke wrote his paper, there was no way to get a satellite into orbit to begin with.

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    3. Re:patent on satellites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ACC doesn't have a patent on them, in fact, he laments this (several times, who wouldn't?) in several of his anthologies.

    4. Re:patent on satellites by ColdGrits · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You understand incorrectly.

      Sir Arthur C Clarke does not have a patent on the geosynchronous satellite (which he rather regrets, I understand).

      HOWEVER, his description in the paper he published in 1945 was sufficiently detailed so as to PREVENT anyone else from obtaining a patent decades later when such satellites became a reality.

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    5. Re:patent on satellites by IP,+Daily · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Maybe it's not bureaucratic bungling. In order for an invention to be patentable, it must be described in a way that is "enabling". That is, given the description of the invention, a person of ordinary skill in the art must be able to construct a working model of the invention.

      An example of a non-enabled invention would be a teleporter. If you apply for a patent for your teleportation apparatus, and your description only says that it provides near-instantaneous transmission of a human being over vast geographical distances without saying how it works, well, you aren't gonna get a patent, because you haven't enabled your idea; it's not really an invention. If someone actually ever gets such a device to work, that person gets the patent, and you've got no valid gripe just because you had an unworkable idea for the invention first.

      The sort of response that ACC got in the story you relate seems to indicate that he didn't provide an enabling description, only a high-level description that can be said to be a great idea, but not a fully developed invention. Later, satellites became a reality because someone else provided that enabling description (and presumably was awarded the patent).

    6. Re:patent on satellites by dachshund · · Score: 4, Interesting
      'Come, come, Mr Clarke,' said the people at the Patent Office. 'We're a serious outfit, we haven't got time to waste on fantastic ideas like this.' Years later, when the first satellite (with which Arthur was actively involved) actually went up, and the nations were queuing to get their own satellites up, Arthur went back to the Patent Office. 'But, Mr Clarke,' they said, 'the satellite already exists. You should have come to us earlier.'

      It's worth pointing out that Clarke's original concept involved three enormous manned space-stations in geostationary orbit, not the relatively small solid-state devices we have now. Really, Clarke's idea came down to a lot of foresight and some clever geometry. He solved a problem that nobody had even though to consider at the time.

      All I can say is a) Clarke's a very clever guy who deserves an enormous amount of credit for his inventiveness, and b) thank god he wasn't able to patent that idea. As clever as he was for being the first one to have it, let's face it... If you need to send a signal over the horizon, it's not going to take long for you to hit upon the idea of geosync sattelites (assuming you have the resources to put them up.)

      I can't precisely say that the solution is "obvious", but I do think a lot of communications companies would have found themselves unnecessarily shelling out to Clarke, regardless of his actual contribution to their efforts.

    7. Re:patent on satellites by Michael+Woodhams · · Score: 2

      This doesn't match my memory of ACC's descriptions of this. As I recall, the thought of patenting geostationary orbit only came up years after the initial publication, by which time it was unpatentable by reason of already being published.

      Other than your first link, none of the references claim he tried to patent the idea. The first link does not provide references. Do you have a primary source (i.e. statement by The Man himself) that he tried to patent the idea?

      Even if he had patented the idea in 1946ish, a 17 year patent term would expire in 1963. I'm not sure if geostationary orbit had been used by then, but at best it was very lightly used.

      The 'legal issues' link above relates to an opinion I've stated on slashdot before: methods and goals should be separately considered for 'obviousness' in patent applications. In this case, neither the method (rocketry) or the goal (geostationary satellite) were obvous, and arguably one should be patentable without the existence of the other. Genetically engineered cotton, at the time it was first patented, was an inobvious method (patentable by my reasoning) but an obvious goal (not patentable - contrary to what the patent attempted to claim.)

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    8. Re:patent on satellites by BryceH · · Score: 1


      thank god he wasn't able to patent that idea. As clever as he was for being the first one to have it, let's face it... If you need to send a signal over the horizon, it's not going to take long for you to hit upon the idea of geosync sattelites


      funny how hindsight is 20/20, i mean seriously if someone had to get from point A to point B its not going to take that long to hit upon the idea of a motor vehicle :P

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    9. Re:patent on satellites by Salamander · · Score: 2
      'Come, come, Mr Clarke,' said the people at the Patent Office. 'We're a serious outfit, we haven't got time to waste on fantastic ideas like this.'

      I seriously doubt this would have been their reaction. IMO the real stumbling block would have been this, from the General Information Concerning Patents page at USPTO:

      A patent cannot be obtained upon a mere idea or suggestion. The patent is granted upon the new machine, manufacture, etc., as has been said, and not upon the idea or suggestion of the new machine. A complete description of the actual machine or other subject matter for which a patent is sought is required.

      In other words, the details of implementation must have been worked out in sufficient detail to allow implementation without requiring further innovation. Usually this means that a working prototype must exist, although that's not strictly required.

      ACC's idea for geosynchronous satellites, however brilliant, did not meet this standard for patentability.

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    10. Re:patent on satellites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Cited text is from the 'general' page of Lloyd's satellite constellations.

      Some guy who wrote his PhD thesis on the things...

    11. Re:patent on satellites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Hey, that software for simulating satellite movement you linked to only got put onto SourceForge a coupla weeks back.

      savi.sourceforge.net.

      dead cool. Mod this up!

    12. Re:patent on satellites by Alien54 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      b) thank god he wasn't able to patent that idea.

      Under the patent laws of the day, he would have had 17 years. Not very renewable.

      1945 + 17 = 1962.

      Note, the first geosynchronous satellite was launched in 1964

      The patent would have likely run out anyhow.

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    13. Re:patent on satellites by Pooua · · Score: 1

      A patent cannot be obtained upon a mere idea or suggestion.

      I believe this single sentence from the patent office goes to the heart of this entire thread, covering the majority that could be said on this subject. I've known a lot of people who are confused by the idea, and I have reason to believe it is a common delusion. Bruce Williams, the practical advice man heard on many radio stations, often said on his program that ideas, "are a dime a dozen." It isn't the idea that is important; it is actually working out the idea! I listened to several people call Mr. Williams' show, believing that because they had an idea that someone else later developed, they should get a share of the profits. As I see it, much of the science fiction community has this same over-inflated sense of self-worth. Some people seem to think that because they have imagined some fantastic idea that they are a father of future civilization. Many people who think that way coincidentally are unlikely to benefit society significantly beyond showing off their ideas.

      I think that Liberal Arts majors are some of the most useless people in an honest society, with entertainers, artists and actors being at the lowest end. Some of them, however, redeem themselves by pursuing a worthy profession, such as medicine or engineering or science.

      Most of the great ideas in science fiction weren't invented by the writer's anyway; the most successful prognosticators do a lot of careful research before they publish, thus lowering the chances that they will say something too quickly outdated. Of course, it's the people doing the real development work that would make the science fiction outdated.

      Have a look at http://www.brucewilliams.com/

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    14. Re:patent on satellites by dachshund · · Score: 1

      Presuming he had patented it right off the bat. He could have sat on it for a few more years.

    15. Re:patent on satellites by burkingman · · Score: 1

      You make a good point about the low value of raw ideas, but I'm amazed at how quickly you take this opportunity to dismiss all artists. Briefly put (I know this is off-topic), artists make you think by pointing out society's flaws, make your world more pleasant, and make all that great music you listen to at work to block out the noise from all the idiots.

    16. Re:patent on satellites by MobyTurbo · · Score: 1

      If Author C. Clarke had asked the patent office to patent software rather than satelites, perhaps they would have been more ready to give him a patent.They certainly aren't cautious about giving patents to software now!

    17. Re:patent on satellites by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      > Arthur went back to the Patent Office. 'But, Mr
      > Clarke,' they said, 'the satellite already exists.
      > You should have come to us earlier.

      It's one of the rare crimes that should be a capital offense, like murder and high treason.

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    18. Re:patent on satellites by ptrourke · · Score: 1

      Clarke's communications satellite article was NOT science fiction, it was a scientific article in Wireless World or some such radio-tech journal. It is just barely possible that he included the idea in a science fiction story before that article, but I doubt it. See his book, *Ascent to Orbit*, for a facsimile reprint of the original article.

    19. Re:patent on satellites by nerdlyone · · Score: 1

      I don't know much about Clarke's satellite idea, but I do know that you have to actually be able to BUILD your idea before you can get a patent (it's caled reduction to practice). If there were technical hurdles that had not yet been overcome at the time he submitted it, he cannot fulfill the requirements of the statute to get a patent. (For example, if there were no way to launch such a device at the time....) I can't patent "Lightspeed travel" without knowing how to accomplish it. If I could, then when someone actually did figure out how to travel at c, I could claim I owned it without ever having invented it. And that would just be wrong. Wrong I say.

  56. Enterprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How fitting that it was a Space Shuttle in name only.

  57. Starship Troopers by cyoung1035 · · Score: 1

    The military seems to be trying to develop many of the concepts introduced by Heinlein in "Starship Troopers" ... the movie (ugh) didn't have to make any great leaps of imagination to re-create the weapons or armor ...

    1. Re:Starship Troopers by JThaddeus · · Score: 1

      Armor? What armor? In addition with corrupting Heinlien's vision of society and not making the drops as presented in the book, the director made no effort whatsoever to recreate the Mobile Infantry fighting suit described in the book. I guess guys leaping around at 5 mile intervals didn't have the camera quality of every cluster-f***ing down a narrow canyon. As the DI's used to say, "One hand grenade would kill you all."

      The only thing I did like about the movies was the bugs killing the way bugs kill (pincers) and the home front propaganda reels.

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  58. Hal's Legacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is an interesting book on the subject from MIT press, came out in 1996.

    http://mitpress.mit.edu/e-books/Hal/index.html

  59. 'Robot' not Asimov. by mahlen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From dictionary.com:

    Word History: Robot is a word that is both a coinage by an individual person and a borrowing. It has been in English since 1923 when the Czech writer Karel Capek's play R.U.R. was translated into English and presented in London and New York. R.U.R., published in 1921, is an abbreviation of Rossum's
    Universal Robots; robot itself comes from Czech robota, "servitude, forced labor," from rab, "slave." The Slavic root behind robota is orb-,
    from the Indo-European root *orbh-, referring to separation from one's group or passing out of one sphere of ownership into another. This seems to be the sense that binds together its somewhat
    diverse group of derivatives, which includes Greek orphanos, "orphan," Latin orbus, "orphaned," and German Erbe, "inheritance," in addition to the
    Slavic word for slave mentioned above. Czech robota is also similar to another German derivative of this root, namely Arbeit, "work" (its Middle High German form arabeit
    is even more like the Czech word).
    Arbeit may be descended from a word that meant "slave labor," and later generalized to just "labor."

    mahlen

    If I want your opinion, I'll ask you to fill out the necessary form.

    1. Re:'Robot' not Asimov. by shpoffo · · Score: 1

      this reference is a bit incorrect as well, but unfortunately i don't have a reference to cite for my info here either. Robots were first portrazying in a Futurist play around the turn of the century (pre-1920). Though I suppose i could be wrong in this as well, the term itself may have come form the Czech play.

      -shpoffo

    2. Re:'Robot' not Asimov. by msebast · · Score: 1


      I believe Asimov took credit for inventing the word 'Robotics'.

      In one book I read many years ago he went on about it at great lenghth.

      He was anoyingly proud of his 'invention'.

  60. Well, there's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "tolkien ring", which some people still refer to Token Ring as...

  61. Shockwave Rider by justrob · · Score: 1


    John Brunner came up with the idea of a software
    worm that could bring the internet to a slow crawl
    way back in 1975.

    1. Re:Shockwave Rider by Weasel+Boy · · Score: 1

      The "Plug-in lifestyle" in this book also fairly well describes the job-hopping high-tech culture of today.

    2. Re:Shockwave Rider by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am really surprised no one mentioned this novel for so long in this thread. I reread this about a year ago, and it's chilling how close Brunner has come to where we are now. His Delphi Pools, which tapped into a worldwide betting network and were a basis for many government decisions, sounds quite a bit the way today's (ahem) leaders (/ahem) use polls to decide how to govern. The parallels between this seminal work and todays world are many, although I don't think the real world is going to work out as well as the plot does in the book. It's more likely we're headed for life as described in his other award-winning works, "Stand on Zanzibar" and "The Sheep Look Up."

    3. Re:Shockwave Rider by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree: you absolutely must include _Shockwave Rider_. I read it long ago (late 70s, early 80s) and it really stuck with me. It was quite something to watch the (predictive, not necessarily causative) vision unfold as the Internet came into being. He's also quite close to some other modern trends, too, in _Shockwave River_ and also _Stand on Zanzibar_ and _The Sheep Look Up_; for example "berserkers" (going postal). Good reads, all of them.

    4. Re:Shockwave Rider by dgrb · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was just beginning to wonder whether anyone was going to mention Brunner too.

      Shockwave Rider is probably the most relevant to the online culture of today; I reread it just a few weeks ago, oddly enough - ultimately I think he is far to optimistic in his ending.

      I have the nasty feeling, though, that The Sheep Look Up, with its predictions of environmental disaster, may well be closer to where we're heading.

      I'll also add The Jagged Orbit to the list.

    5. Re:Shockwave Rider by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about "The adolescence of P1" not that we have sentient AI's but it describes a lot of what we see in some of todays viral activity.

  62. Well, here's some science fact... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:38:06 -0600

    Dear William,

    Here's a simple explanation of what powers every electrical circuit.

    When we crank the shaft of the generator and rotate it, the rotation transforms the input "mechanical" energy into internal "magnetic field" energy. In that little part of the circuit that is between the terminals of the generator and inside it, the magnetic field energy is dissipated on the charges right there, to do work on them. This work (expending the magnetic energy) forces the negative charges in one direction, and the positive charges in the other direction. In copper, for example, for every electron we "push" off an atom into the conductor as a free electron to make "current", there is a "hole" left on that atom. That "hole" is a positive charge.

    So the same magnetic field energy, while moving those electrons, also applies forces to those positive holes. The positive charge of each hole, however, is attached to a far heavier mass (the atom) than is the charge of the electron. So the atoms with positive charges (ions) are pushed and rocked back a little.

    That's all that rotating the shaft of the generator accomplishes. None of that input shaft energy was transformed into EM energy and sent out down the powerline, as electrical engineers assume. Not to worry, energy does get sent down the powerline. But not from the generator shaft energy or its transduction.

    Essentially then, all the energy we put into the shaft of the generator is dissipated inside the generator itself, to push the positive charges in one direction and the negative charges in the other. The separation of the charges forms what is called a "dipole" (opposite charges separated from each other a bit).

    That is all that the generator does. That is all that burning all that coal or oil or gas does. It heats a boiler to make steam, so that the steam runs a steam turbine attached to the shaft of the generator, and turns it -- and therefore forcing those charges apart and making that dipole between the terminals of the generator.

    Generators and batteries make source dipoles, nothing else.

    Let's stop right there and see what happens, once we have a dipole.

    In 1957, Lee and Yang were awarded the Nobel Prize for the discovery of broken symmetry, including the broken symmetry of opposite charges (such as the ends of a dipole, like between those terminals of that generator). Ugh! In lay language, what the dickens is that? What does it mean? Let us deviate a little, so we understand what has been said when we say that "the dipole, once made, is a broken symmetry in the fierce energy flux of the vacuum".

    In quantum mechanics, the vacuum (empty space) is not inert at all, but is one of the most active and energetic things in the entire universe. Imagine a giant sea of "energetic bubbles", boiling up and bursting, and with mind-boggling energy. Each little bubble arises and disappears so quickly that it cannot be individually seen; but during the moment that it exists, it has enormous energy.

    The vacuum or so-called "empty space" is just a seething sea of such extraordinarily energetic bubbles of energetic particles appearing and disappearing at an incredible rate. Because an individual bubble cannot be seen, it is said to be "virtual" (not observable) as compared to something that hangs around a long time and thus can be "seen" or "observed". An ordinary old electron that hangs around all the time is thus observable; an electron born as a special "bubble" momentarily in the seething vacuum and disappearing again almost instantly, is not observable but "virtual".

    Photons (pieces of electromagnetic energy) also come in both "observable" and "virtual" size. An ordinary old photon hangs around a long time and so it is observable. We say it is "real energy" because we can interact with it, detect it, and observe it. A photon born momentarily as a "special bubble" in that seething vacuum does not hang around, and so cannot be "seen" or measured or observed. So it is said to be "virtual".

    These virtual bubbles appearing and disappearing in the vacuum are quite real. The reactions of lots of them with mass is what creates all the forces of the universe. Any and every kind of force.

    It turns out that a charge -- any charge, either electric or magnetic -- is in violent virtual photon energy exchange with that vacuum, continuously. That fierce absorption of energy and emission of energy is in fact "what charge really is".

    Let's visualize that as virtual photons (photon bubbles) in the frenzied vacuum continuously interacting by the uncountable zillions with an ordinary old charge (say an electron). All the forces we observe acting upon that electron, are created by the frenzied interaction of those virtual photon bubbles with that electron.

    And the same for any other charge.

    So a dipole (two opposite charges separated a little) is a broken symmetry in that violent energy exchange between the charges of the dipole and that seething energy bubble sea. That is well-proven, both experimentally and theoretically, in particle physics since 1957 and the award of the Nobel Prize to Lee and Yang.

    It still hasn't made it into the electrical engineering textbooks and curricula yet.

    Here's what we mean by that "broken symmetry of the dipole in the fierce flux of vacuum".

    The charges on the dipole continuously receive energy in little temporary "bullet strikes" called virtual photon absorptions. So the charge continuously absorbs EM energy, steadily and violently, from the active vacuum at an incredible rate. All the time. Night and day. More in one second than all the manmade power systems on earth have used in our entire history. In other words, it really receives an incredible amount of energy continuously!

    So the dipole has to re-radiate (emit) that continuously absorbed virtual energy back to the active vacuum, as fast as it receives it. Else its rapidly increasing stored energy would rise so sharply that it would create a new "Big Bang" and an entire new universe bursting out of the old one.

    Obviously the world is not continuously exploding around every dipole or electron. In fact, the dipole and the electron are quite stable. So the dipole or electron has to be re-radiating that absorbed energy back to the vacuum as fast as it receives it.

    Now there are two ways the opposite charges in a dipole could possibly radiate that energy back to space. (1) they could radiate it back as the same kind of virtual photons that it absorbed. In that case, there would exist "mirror symmetry" in the vacuum flux, as if everything hitting the dipole charges from the vacuum were just reflected exactly right back to the vacuum, like light reflecting perfectly from a mirror.

    But that's not what happens. What happens is (2) a lot of the little bitty momentary photons are "piled up" and added together, to make a bigger "chunk" of EM energy. These "big chunks" of EM energy are the bigger, permanent kind of photons! They are observable. That's real energy, and you can intercept it, collect it, and use it to power real loads.

    That reradiating the absorbed virtual photon energy as observable photon energy called a "broken symmetry" in that vacuum "bubble flux". In other words, the dipole charges absorb energy from the vacuum in very tiny momentary bits -- as something like "disintegrated" EM energy. But the spin of the charges of the dipole integrates that "disintegrated" EM energy into very much bigger pieces that are permanent and hang around. So part of the energy received from the vacuum in a form that cannot be "seen", is "glued together" into energy that can be and is seen, and re-emitted back to the vacuum in that real EM energy form.

    So we "see" the dipole as if it were just sitting there and pouring out real EM energy continuously, in all directions, like a spray nozzle or giant energy gusher. We don't see the input energy from the vacuum at all! But it's there, and it's well-known in particle physics. It's just that electrical engineers -- particularly those that have designed and built all our electrical power systems for more than a century -- do not know it.

    So, according to proven particle physics and a Nobel Prize, the easiest thing in all the world is to extract EM energy from the vacuum. All you wish. Anywhere in the universe. For free. Just pay a little bit once, to make a little dipole, and that silly thing is like a great oil well you just successfully drilled that has turned into a mighty gusher of oil without you having to pump it. The dipole just sits there and does its thing, and it pours energy out forever, for free, as long as that dipole continues to exist.

    So pouring from the terminals (from the internal source dipole) of every generator and battery, there is a stream of EM energy pouring out, once that internal dipole is made. This outflowing EM energy has been extracted and converted directly from the seething vacuum by that dipole's broken symmetry. The outflowing EM energy is not transformed shaft energy one put into the generator! That flow of energy extracted from the vacuum fills all space around the external wires attached to the terminals, and it flows at the speed of light.

    The external (attached) circuits and power lines etc. catch some of that available EM energy flowing through space (generally flowing parallel to the wires but outside them). Some of the flowing energy is intercepted and diverted into the wires themselves, to power up the internal electrons and force them into currents, thus powering the entire power line and all its circuits.

    However, the power system engineers use just one kind of circuit. In the standard "closed current loop" circuit, all the "spent electrons" (spent after giving up their excess energy in the loads, losses, etc.) are then forcibly "rammed" back through that little internal section between the ends of the source dipole (between the terminals). These "rammed" electrons smash the charges in the dipole away, and destroy the dipole then and there.

    It can easily be shown that half the "caught" energy in the external circuit is used to destroy that source dipole, and nothing else.

    For more than a century, our misguided engineers have thus used a type of circuit that takes half of the energy it catches, and uses that half to destroy the source dipole that is actually extracting the EM energy from the vacuum and pouring it out of the terminals for that power line to "catch" in the first place! The other half of the "caught energy" in the powerline is used to power the external loads and losses.

    So half the caught energy in the power line is used to kill the source dipole (kill the free energy gusher), and less than half is used to power the loads. It follows that our electrical engineers are trained to use only those power circuits that kill themselves (kill their gushing free energy from the vacuum) faster than they can power their loads.

    Well, to get the energy gusher going again, the dipole has to be restored in order to extract the energy and pour it out again.

    So we have to pay to crank the shaft of that generator some more, to turn that generator some more, so that we can dissipate some more magnetic energy to re-make the dipole. We have to work on that shaft at least as much as the external circuit worked on that source dipole to destroy it. So we have to "input more shaft energy" to the generator than the external power system uses to power its loads. Since we pay for the input shaft energy, we have to keep on burning that coal, oil, and gas etc. to do so.

    All our electrical power systems are "suicidal" vacuum-powered systems, freely extracting their useful EM energy from the seething vacuum, but deliberately killing themselves faster than they power their loads.

    All that the burning of all that coal, oil, gas, etc. accomplishes is to continually remake the source dipole, which our engineers insure will then receive be killed by the system itself faster than the system gives us work in the load.

    To borrow a phrase from Tesla, this is probably "the most inexplicable aberration of the scientific mind ever recorded in history".

    No electrical engineering department or professor in the United states teaches or even knows what powers an EM circuit, or an electrical power line, even though the basis has been available in particle physics for nearly half a century.

    All that wanton and senseless destruction of the biosphere and pollution of the planet, just to get our electrical energy from self-suicidal power system, is insane. There is absolutely no need for it. That hundreds of thousands of engineers and scientists have continued this gigantic farce uncomplaining, is absolutely inexcusable. That the leaders of our scientific community continue to propagate such nonsense, is also inexcusable.

    There is no problem in getting all the EM energy one wishes, for nearly free, anywhere in the universe, and that follows from the broken symmetry of the dipole. Just make a dipole. You get the energy flow for free, thereafter, so long as you will just leave that dipole intact and not destroy it (or at least destroy it slower than you power the load).

    All the universities, the National Academy of Sciences, the National Science Foundation, and the great national laboratories are completely working on the wrong end of the energy problem. So is the Department of Energy, save one small project to donate a website to the Alpha Foundation's Institute for Advanced Study (AIAS), of which the present author is a fellow emeritus (old dog). The conventional power system scientists have got the cart before the horse, have had it that way for more than a century, and are determined to forever keep it that way.

    The real and only energy PROBLEM is simple: Figure out better mechanisms to intercept that FREE electromagnetic energy flow from the source dipole, once made. Collect lots of that freely flowing energy in collectors and circuits. Then discard the stupid closed current loop circuit and dissipate the collected energy in the loads WITHOUT dissipating half of it to kill the dipole and the free-flowing EM energy from the vacuum.

    In one AIAS paper, we gave some 17 ways to attack that real only energy problem. Several of those ways are doable now, but just require funding and a proper development program. And some engineers who also know some particle physics. I personally know three inventor or inventor groups with overunity EM systems in at least successful laboratory experiment, or in actual prototype. Our own group with its motionless electromagnetic generator using the Aharonov-Bohm effect is one of those three systems that can be developed and brought into mass production within one year, given adequate funding (say, about 23 million per system). The energy crisis can be totally solved, forever, anytime the scientific community will permit it, fund it, and not try to "steal" it from the inventor(s).

    The electrodynamics that U.S. electrical engineers are using to design those present electrical power system monstrosities and the accompanying extraordinarily vulnerable and awkward and archaic infrastructures and distribution systems is 137 years old, put together in the time of the American Civil War, for goodness sakes! At that time, the atom, the nucleus, and the electron were not even discovered yet. The classical EM model is known today to be seriously flawed (e.g., Wheeler and Feynman pointed part of it out, and even tried to correct it. They failed because their corrections were not sufficiently extensive). Even so, later even that 1865 Maxwellian EM model was also seriously curtailed in the 1880s (after Maxwell was already dead). It was further crippled, first partially crippled by Heaviside and then permanently crippled (as far as free energy systems) by Lorentz. Prior to Lorentz's changes, the Maxwell-Heaviside equations do prescribe both (1) Maxwellian systems that put out less energy than the operator inputs (i.e., the conventional stuff), and (2) Maxwellian systems that put out more energy than the operator himself inputs. The model (before Lorentz's changes) does include "electromagnetic windmills in a free electrical wind", so to speak. After Lorentz's change, it is as if the further-stripped model now only contains "windmills which are sealed in a barn so no wind can ever get to them".

    Let me put it this way. Every electrical system we every built, and every one today, is powered by EM energy extracted directly from the active vacuum by the source dipole in the system. Always has been, always will be. If one really wants to get serious about it, all EM energy in space comes from the time domain (see my Giant Negentropy paper). Literally we "consume or use a little time, to get EM energy in 3-space. One second of time converts to something like 9x10exp16 joules of EM energy. So if we convert one microsecond per second, at one point in space, into EM energy in space, we get something like 9x10exp10 joules per second -- that's 90,000 megawatts at that single point. Even at a very efficient conversion process, we can get 1,000 megawatts there at that single point or location. And we can simultaneously do that at each and every spatial point or location that we choose.

    So how many programs are the National Academy of Sciences and National Science Foundations funding for working on the only real fundamental electrical power system problem (how to dissipate the freely flowing EM energy in loads, without ramming the spent electrons back through the source dipole and destroying it)? Check their websites. There is no really "innovative science" going on to solve that problem. The scientific community will spend and has spent billions on the notion of hot fusion, without adding one watt to the power grid, but they will not spend a paltry $40 million to solve the only remaining problem that would allow very cheap and clean electrical energy for the entire world, forever. And that would dramatically and permanently reduce the despoiling of this beautiful biosphere, the strangling of species, and the global warming. Let alone eliminate those nuclear powerplants and eliminate further nuclear wastes from them.

    The cost of a single large new electrical power plant for a few years, can solve the energy crisis forever.

    Kyoto was a flash in the pan prior to what can really be done with a single well-funded and well-directed research program in 3 years. We could have working commercial power systems, self-powering, going into production in one year from the date such a program is initiated, if we can get something like a Presidential Decision Directive to keep the infuriated scientific community, the Big Nuke Power boys, and the Big Oil and Big Coal boys off our backs. Two years later that that first year, the range of systems will include nearly everything necessary to permanently replace this terribly vulnerable and antiquated centralized power system that is going to require vast billions of new dollars and years of work, just to try to stay up with demand.

    Oh, how long will a dipole pour out that EM energy freely, you asked? Let's put it this way. The dipoles in the atoms of all the primary matter in the universe, have been continuously pouring out EM energy freely extracted from the vacuum, for some 14 billion years or so. So as far as we are concerned, the dipole will pour the energy out freely forever, or for at least the next 14 billion years -- and that's close enough to forever for government work, so to speak.

    All we have to do is take the "electrical windmills" out of the closed current loop barns we have been putting them in for over 100 years.

    If the environmentalists really want to save the planet, then it is the scientific community they should be attacking and condemning. To do that, they will have to have some decidedly unorthodox scientific advise. But we do have some extraordinary scientists who can and would do it. They would have to be paid, but they can meet all objections and the deepest scientific criticism.

    The global warming, hydrocarbon combustion pollution, nuclear power plant pollution, and dams pollution and degradation of species and the biosphere, are totally unnecessary. The only reason we have an environmental problem now approaching such epic proportions, is because of the abject and total failure of our own scientific community for more than a century. That was excusable for a half century, but since the rise of particle physics -- and specifically since the discovery of broken symmetry -- it is no longer excusable. Indeed, it so threatens the very survival of the United States (and about 3/4 of the Earth that is going to be destroyed by about 2010 on our present course) that it has become simply inexplicable.

    How else can one explain the fact that, in 100 years, we have not produced a single electrical engineering department, university, national laboratory, etc. that even understands what powers an electrical circuit? And still do not, even though the broken symmetry of the common source dipole has been established for nearly a half century?

    The organized scientific community --- not the political community --- is totally responsible for the environmental crisis.

    Unfortunately, the environmental community and the political community have been very naïve; they have turned for their "expert advice" to those same engineers and scientists and organizations and laboratories that do not even know what powers an electrical circuit. And that have been responsible for the crisis in the first place. And they have naively believed every word they were told by those advisors.

    Hey! Those who brought on the problem in the first place, and who so stoutly defend the present mess (destroying the careers of scientists who object and try to change it), cannot be depended upon to properly advise anyone on how to correct it. That is like setting the fox in the henhouse to guard the hens.

    The environmental community does a lot of activism, because it is filled with persons sincerely passionate in their urgent intent to save this precious planet. The community has a lot of clout, and it also attracts a lot of money from donors wishing to clean up the biosphere, and to have a clean air and planet once again, with thriving natural species rather that species strangling in the sludge and the mud.

    However, sadly the community focuses (understandably!) on the wrong problem, because it receives the wrong scientific advice. The environmental community is led to believe that what is being done by our energy scientists and engineers is the very best that can be done. That is totally false. Both the environmentalists and the politicians are being misled by our scientific community.

    Contrary to popular opinion, science does not progress by sweet reason, but by an unending series of cur dog fights. Any historian of science can give dozens and dozens of notorious examples (vacuum energy and cold fusion are two present cases where the innovative scientists are being savaged without mercy). The Big Dogs who hold the upper hand in the present cur dog fights, are irrevocably committed to more of the same systems the environmentalists despise: Big nuclear power plants, more hydrocarbon burning, ever more oil and gas pipelines, ever more dams, etc. You cannot power the big cities and the increasing populace with windmills and solar cells. Or with fuel cells either, though that is now the "decision" made by the various cartels that we shall have forced upon us. Reason: with fuel cells, you will have to keep burning some fuel, and keep that energy meter on your house and some kind of "gas meter" on your car. EM energy from the vacuum is deadly opposed by the cartels because it is total anathema to that desire. By removing that gas meter on your car and that electric meter on your house, some vast financial empires are threatened and will be destroyed eventually. We simply wryly point out that the top dogs did not get on top by placing touch football; they got there by playing very hard-nosed football. They will do whatever it takes to oppose the knowledge and funding of COP>1.0 electrical systems freely taking their energy from the seething vacuum. Including kill the inventors and discoverers as necessary. They have been doing it for several decades already.

    So the dispute over eliminating the energy crisis versus saving the environment then becomes artificially limited to the false "either-or" choice between more energy-systems-as-conventional to provide more energy, versus severe curtailment of energy use from less energy-systems-as-conventional to decrease the impact on the environment.

    That choice forces one to a choice in the national economy and way of life, when only the conventional power system technology is considered. With conventional technology, to maintain the economy for a decent standard of living for all, we have to have CHEAP AND ABUNDANT electrical energy and more of it every year. With conventional approaches, to maintain the environment we have to have CLEANER AND LESS electrical energy every year.

    The real solution is to kill the controversy and cut the Gordian knot, and get rid of that phrase "conventional power system technology" and that phrase "and less". To do BOTH things at once -- have cheaper, clean, and more abundant electrical energy and more every year -- we only have to turn to proper use of the enormous electromagnetic energy so easily and universally produced from the seething vacuum.

    There is a very good and proper science of the type of electrodynamic models that have to be used to develop such new "vacuum powering" systems: (1) higher group symmetry electrodynamics should be used, such as O(3), which is capable of modeling the vacuum interaction as well as the curvatures of spacetime interactions (both of which conventional classical electrical engineering discards), and (2) we have to put some sharp but open-minded scientists on working on the real problem: how to dissipate the collected EM energy in a dipolar circuit, without using half of it to destroy its own dipolarity.

    We have to fund those sharp young grad students working on their doctorate, and those post-docs working on new energy research, to work in "EM energy from the vacuum". Try finding a single doctoral thesis, candidate, or post-doc working on a funded project in that respect.

    The entire solution to the energy crisis and to the environmental problem due to energy is doable, and it's doable in three years. But take an example: To get those two things going via our own proposed COP>1.0 power system (the motionless electromagnetic generator), we have had to move our final year of research to the National Material Sciences Laboratory of the National Academy of Science of a friendly foreign nation.

    Which, by the way, has been teaching the higher electrodynamics in its universities now for more than a dozen years.

    And which, by the way, does know what really powers an EM circuit.

    Hope this fills the bill for you.

    Best wishes,

    Tom Bearden

    References for Scientists:

    Modern Nonlinear Optics, Second Edition, 3 vols., edited by M. W. Evans, Wiley, 2001. The 3 volumes comprise a Special Topic issue as Vol. 119, I. Prigogine and S. A. Rice (series eds.), Advances in Chemical Physics, Wiley, ongoing. M.W. Evans, P. K. Anastasovski, T. E. Bearden et al., "Derivation of the B(3) Field and Concomitant Vacuum Energy Density from the Sachs Theory of Electrodynamics," Foundations of Physics Letters, 14(6), Dec. 2001, p. 589-593 ----- "Development of the Sachs Theory of Electrodynamics," Foundations of Physics Letters, 14(6), Dec. 2001, p. 595-600; ----- "Explanation of the Motionless Electromagnetic Generator with O(3) Electrodynamics," Foundations of Physics Letters, 14(1), Feb. 2001, p. 87-94. ------ "Explanation of the Motionless Electromagnetic Generator by Sachs's Theory of Electrodynamics," Foundations of Physics Letters, 14(4), 2001, p. 387-393. ------ "Operator Derivation of the Gauge Invariant Proca and Lehnert Equation: Elimination of the Lorentz Condition," Foundations of Physics, 39(7), 2000, p. 1123-1130. ----- "Effect of Vacuum Energy on the Atomic Spectra," Foundations of Physics Letters, 13(3), June 2000, p. 289-296. ----- "Runaway Solutions of the Lehnert Equations: The Possibility of Extracting Energy from the Vacuum," Optik, 111(9), 2000, p. 407-409. ----- "Classical Electrodynamics Without the Lorentz Condition: Extracting Energy from the Vacuum," Physica Scripta 61(5), May 2000, p. 513-517. ----- "On the Representation of the Maxwell-Heaviside Equations in Terms of the Barut Field Four-Vector," Optik 111(6), 2000, p. 246-248. "The New Maxwell Electrodynamic Equations: New Tools for New Technologies. A Collection of 60 papers from the Alpha Foundation's Institute for Advanced Study. Published as a Special Issue of the Journal of New Energy, 4(3), Winter 1999. 335 p. T. E. Bearden, "Extracting and Using Electromagnetic Energy from the Active Vacuum," in M.W. Evans (ed.), Modern Nonlinear Optics, Second Edition, 3 vols., Wiley, 2001; Vol. 2, p. 639-698. T. E. Bearden, "Energy from the Active Vacuum: The Motionless Electromagnetic Generator," in M. W. Evans (Ed.), Modern Nonlinear Optics, Second Edition, 3-vols., Wiley, 2001; Vol. 2, p. 699-776. T. E. Bearden, Energy from the Vacuum: Concepts and Principles, World Scientific, Singapore, 2002, in process. T. E. Bearden, "Giant Negentropy from the Common Dipole," Proceedings of Congress 2000, St. Petersburg, Russia, Vol. 1, July 2000 , p. 86-98. Also published in Journal of New Energy, 5(1), Summer 2000, p. 11-23. Also carried on DoE restricted website http://www.ott.doe.gov/electromagnetic/ and www.cheniere.org. T. E. Bearden, "Bedini's Method For Forming Negative Resistors In Batteries," Proceedings of Congress 2000, St. Petersburg, Russia, Vol. 1, July 2000, p. 24-38. Also published in Journal of New Energy, 5(1), Summer 2000, p. 24-38. Floyd Sweet and T. E. Bearden, "Utilizing Scalar Electromagnetics to Tap Vacuum Energy," Proceedings of the 26th Intersociety Energy Conversion Engineering Conference (IECEC '91), Boston, Massachusetts, 1991, p. 370-375. M.W. Evans, "The Link Between the Sachs and O(3) Theories of Electrodynamics," in M. W. Evans (Ed.), Modern Nonlinear Optics, Second Edition, , 3 vols. Wiley, 2001; vol. 2, p. 469-494. M. W. Evans, "The Link Between the Topological Theory of Ranada and Trueba, the Sachs Theory, and O(3) Electrodynamics," in M. W. Evans (Ed.), Modern Nonlinear Optics, Second Edition, , 3 vols. Wiley, 2001, vol. 2, p. 495-499. M. W. Evans, "O(3) Electrodynamics," a review in M.W. Evans (ed.), Modern Nonlinear Optics, Second Edition, 3 vols., Wiley, 2001; Vol. 2, p. 79-267. M. W. Evans and L. B. Crowell, Classical and Quantum Electrodynamics and the B(3) Field, World Scientific, Singapore, 2001. M. W. Evans and S. Jeffers, "The Present Status of the Quantum Theory of Light," in M. W. Evans (ed.), Modern Nonlinear Optics, Second Edition, 3 vols., Wiley, 2001; Vol. 3, p. 1-196. , B. Lehnert, "Optical Effects of an Extended Electromagnetic Theory," in Modern Nonlinear Optics, Second Edition, 3 vols., Wiley, 2001; Vol. 2, p. 1-77.

  63. Almost anything by H.G. Wells by WolfMansDad · · Score: 1

    H. G. Wells was the first to describe an atomic bomb, before World War 1 I think, but an important insight nevertheless! Also see "The Land Ironclads" for the first description of tanks in warfare.

    Of course he also established most 20th century sci-fi themes. See "The Time Machine," "War of the Worlds," "The Invisible Man," etc.

    1. Re:Almost anything by H.G. Wells by KingoftheEvilDead · · Score: 1

      "...and these atomic bombs which science burst upon the world that night were strange even to the men who used them."
      H.G. Wells, "The World Set Free", 1914

      Of course, the story deals with much, much more than just atomic weapons (atomic riveting?), it's a tale of how science will free man to do great things, with a liberal dose of Wells' theories on how civilization should work.

    2. Re:Almost anything by H.G. Wells by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He also wrote the short story "A Story of the Days to Come" back in 1897 that describes a modern society that is depressingly on the mark...One feature of the story is rampant advertising, to the extent of an individual's back could be used as the screen for projected ads! Anyone walking in public could unknowningly become a walking billboard. We don't have this yet, but I expect is any day now.

  64. Dreams... by depth_13 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Although it will probably be brought up again, Peter Disch wrote a pretty decent book that was reviewed here on Slashdot a while ago called "The Dreams our Stuff is Made Of" that examines the impact that science fiction has had on both our technology and society at large.

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    1. Re:Dreams... by PinkStainlessTail · · Score: 1
      Thomas Disch, not Peter.

      BTW,Theodore Sturgeon has been dead for years, IIRC.

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  65. The Diamond Age "Predicted" Electric Paper by cybrpnk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    After he wrote Snow Crash, the ultimate cyberpunk novel, Neil Stephenson wrote The Diamond Age. Its key plot device was a book with leaves of paper that were computer controlled and displayed whatever the person wanted to read at the moment. Thus a single volume was the equivalent of the entire internet or library of congress or whatever. This differed from using a laptop computer because his society was "neo-Victorian" and everybody wanted to be seen with books, not computers, as a kind of status thing. The funny thing is that Electric Ink is on the verge of making this a reality and has already got posters up in department stores...

    1. Re:The Diamond Age "Predicted" Electric Paper by F34nor · · Score: 1

      Jackass...

      Xerox Park started electronic paper a LONG LONG LONG ASS time before NS. He is far more concerned with the post nanotech era. e.g. the rise of self assembly with resource independance.

    2. Re:The Diamond Age "Predicted" Electric Paper by cybrpnk · · Score: 2

      True true true. So what? Xerox PARC isn't a sci-fi book and the nanotech aspect of Diamond Age isn't a real technology yet. This slashdot topic is about sci-fi books and real inventions. That's what I posted.

    3. Re:The Diamond Age "Predicted" Electric Paper by Phaid · · Score: 4, Informative
    4. Re:The Diamond Age "Predicted" Electric Paper by F34nor · · Score: 1

      check out http://mems.sandia.gov/scripts/index.asp
      and say that again.

    5. Re:The Diamond Age "Predicted" Electric Paper by geekoid · · Score: 2

      His point is Neil Stephon is not the originator of that idea, therefore the idea of electronic paper did not come from science fiction.
      Here is another clue, there is not one technological original thing in any of his books.
      Good boks tho'.

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    6. Re:The Diamond Age "Predicted" Electric Paper by Phaid · · Score: 2, Redundant

      er that was supposed to read this article.

    7. Re:The Diamond Age "Predicted" Electric Paper by F34nor · · Score: 1

      and... A Young Ladies Illustrated Primer had nothing to do with the devlopment of E-paper, "chicken/egg/chicken/egg..."

    8. Re:The Diamond Age "Predicted" Electric Paper by cybrpnk · · Score: 2

      OK. After he wrote Snow Crash, the ultimate cyberpunk novel, Neil Stephenson wrote The Diamond Age. Its key plot device was nanotechnology. The funny thing is that these guys are on the verge of making this technology a reality...

    9. Re:The Diamond Age "Predicted" Electric Paper by cybrpnk · · Score: 2

      What do you want to bet that Electric Ink (or somebody somewhere down the line) will name a book made from their product "A Young Ladies Illustrated Primer"?

    10. Re:The Diamond Age "Predicted" Electric Paper by cybrpnk · · Score: 2

      Or more likely, "A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer".

    11. Re:The Diamond Age "Predicted" Electric Paper by cybrpnk · · Score: 2

      Your Wired article is dated November 4, 1998. Diamond Age is copyrighted in 1995....

    12. Re:The Diamond Age "Predicted" Electric Paper by nihilogos · · Score: 2

      The funny thing is that these guys [sandia.gov] are on the verge of making this technology a reality

      I suppose that depends on what you mean by "verge". But now that they have Charlton Heston narrating a promotional video I suppose anything is possible.

      And if you'll excuse the pun, there is a big difference between microtechnology and nanotechnology. The idea of nano-scale mechanical robots with gears and motors is impractical. Imagine normal robots trying to work whilst having bowling balls slammed into them from all sides and you have a pretty good reason why.

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    13. Re:The Diamond Age "Predicted" Electric Paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      in development since 1978
      ...
      article is dated November 4, 1998. Diamond Age is copyrighted in 1995

      the magazine article was written in 1998, but the product was originally conceived in 1978.

    14. Re:The Diamond Age "Predicted" Electric Paper by Phaid · · Score: 2

      From the article:

      Ready After 20 Years

      Knights said PARC has been working on the Gyricon concept since 1978. Until recently, the project had been a low priority, partly because its applications didn't look as lucrative 20
      years ago.


      You really should have at least skimmed it before commenting.

    15. Re:The Diamond Age "Predicted" Electric Paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is "jackass" the only word you have in your vocabulary, troll?

    16. Re:The Diamond Age "Predicted" Electric Paper by sgage · · Score: 1

      "I suppose that depends on what you mean by "verge". But now that they have Charlton Heston narrating a promotional video I suppose anything is possible."

      I can't believe I used up my mod points yesterday. I'd definitely give this a "funny" point!!!

  66. Robots: Czech by wiredog · · Score: 2

    IIRC, "Robot" is Czech for "Worker". The first work to use "robot" in the mechanical man context was "RUR"

  67. Good. by F34nor · · Score: 1

    William Gibson, "Neuromancer" (AI freedom fighters)

    Neal Stevenson, "Snow Crash" (Lang. Hacking/Franchise system.)

    Vernor Vinge, "A Fire Upon The Deep" (Long distance low bandwidth networking)

    Frank Herbert, "Dune" (Ecology)

    1. Re:Good. by remande · · Score: 2

      Given the times, I suggest reading Herbert's [em]The White Plague[/em]. The story is much more frightening today, once we find ourselves dealing with Anthrax.

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    2. Re:Good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "A Fire Upon the Deep" was a great novel, but I would hardly call it prophetic. It simply took Usenet to a Galactic scale, including trolls, flamers, and kooks. Now, if we discover that the speed of light is a local phenomenon...

  68. dreams, etc by Alien54 · · Score: 2
    From what I recall, many of the old authors from the golden age of science fiction semi-deliberately made it their job to promote space travel, etc so that people would get away from trying to blow each other up on planet Earth, and would get into space exploration as a new thing to do. A sort of informal agenda for the future of the planet.

    We seem to be missing this kind of vision these days, cynicism being much more fashionable.

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  69. Brave new world by JWRose · · Score: 1

    With all the genetic engineering going on today, have a look at A Brave new world, by Aldous Huxley. I'm not sure when it was first published, but since Huxley died in 1963, it should give you some idea.

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  70. Phaser by Nasticity · · Score: 1

    I can't remeber exactly where i read this.. maybe someone else will... but i read about a new device they are calling a phaser.. it shoots an ionized beam.. then releases electrical current along the beam... stunning the individual

  71. The Other Star Trek References by remande · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Besides communicators, the original Star Trek had some other influences on technology.


    I've been told from a retired Navy man that control rooms on latter-day vessels are based on the Enterprise model, which didn't exist until the show did. Previously, key combat stations (such as the helm and tactical) were not in the same room as the skipper. Note: I have not been able to confirm or deny this story; anybody else want to?


    In the original series, whenever one character handed another character computer data, the prop they used was a brightly colored square wafer. IMHO, it looked 3.5" on a side--The microfloppy.


    Again, unconfirmed: did the taser descend from the "stun" setting on the phaser? Trek showed just how useful it was to have a less-lethal weapon.


    The military uses needle-less pneumatic hypodermic injectors to do mass injections--perhaps lining up a regiment to all get a Tetanus booster or something. How is this related to McCoy's spray hypo? I'm not sure.


    Finally, a case of ST influencing technobabble rather than technology itself. Under the Unix operating system, the graphics package (X11) easily allows for one computer to run a program, but for its windows to appear on another machine's display. This is often referred to as "Beaming the app over", based on terminology for the transporter.

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    1. Re:The Other Star Trek References by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Heh. Wrong sf series. The taser derives from the significantly older Tom Swift novels, according to the inventor. (so I've been told)

      Taser stands for 'Thomas A Swift's Electric Rifle'

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    2. Re:The Other Star Trek References by Xibby · · Score: 2

      I much perfer the TASP to the phaser on stun setting.


      A device which can be used from close-range to stimulate the pleasure centers of the brain. Tasps are primarily used by practical jokers who "make someone's day" from hiding.

      Ringworld by Larry Niven

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    3. Re:The Other Star Trek References by ipxodi · · Score: 1

      There is a mention in The Making of Star Trek about this. (a book published in the 70's giving a behind-the-scenes look at the original series.)
      Apparently the Navy was interested in the "ergonomics" of the Star Trek "bridge" set. They came in and studied the set, especially the control panels because they had noticed that the panels were designed so that the controls were placed within easy reach of each person. (curved and angled panels resembling the arc of movement of the human arm.)
      There's also mention of a hospital that wanted to know how the set designers got the automatic doors to open so fast. (whoosh!) Unfortunately, the doors were pulled open manually by people off screen.

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    4. Re:The Other Star Trek References by scaryjohn · · Score: 1

      For what it's worth, the needless injection was around before star trek, used in the smallpox-irradication mass vaccinations of the 60's and 70's. However groups have steadily dropped the use of liquid "hyposprays" because blood can backwash onto the jet head, potentially infecting people in line. In fact all of the military branches have dropped their use since 1997.

      The technology is starting to make a comeback, however. Powder-based systems which opperate much more quickly don't have the risk of backwash, and have disposable heads (as do new designs for liquid media).

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    5. Re:The Other Star Trek References by nihilogos · · Score: 2

      Can anyone tell me what "phaser" actually stands for? Because "Phase Amplification By Stimulated Emmission of Radiation" doesn't make any sense.

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    6. Re:The Other Star Trek References by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My wife (who is diabetic) was approached for a study that used needless syringes that used a small air burst to inject. But, keep in mind, insulin is injected into fat, not blood.

    7. Re:The Other Star Trek References by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen several names. Most refer to Phased Energy, some say "Phased Energy Rectification" or "Phased Energy Refraction".

    8. Re:The Other Star Trek References by TGK · · Score: 2

      It's a conglomeration of the words "phase" and "laser." I guess that would mean it produces lots of different wavelengths at once?

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    9. Re:The Other Star Trek References by Captain_Jackass · · Score: 1

      "Phased Energy Rectification"

    10. Re:The Other Star Trek References by neonstz · · Score: 1

      In the standard X11 mouse cursor set there is a Enterprise-icon. :)

    11. Re:The Other Star Trek References by markmoss · · Score: 1

      Please spell that properly: "needleless injection." A "needless injection" is when you are going to Thule, Greenland and they give you shots for tropical diseases...

    12. Re:The Other Star Trek References by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When physicists say "phaser", they're generally talking about a device that fires a coherent beam of fermions, like a laser (or maser) fires a coherent beam of photons. "They" have recently built a sodium phaser, that fires a coherent beam of sodium atoms. Now, whether this is physicists retroactively adopting the term, I don't know...

    13. Re:The Other Star Trek References by jfsather · · Score: 1

      I've been using one of these since a little after I was diagnosed in '87. The one I use is a Medi-Jector Vision (see it on drugstore.com). Highly recommended. This is one thing that I'm glad came about. It is almost pain free and very easy to use. Oh, mine is spring loaded and not air based, but a similar concept I'm sure. My mom just started using something like it for her MS injections.

      Of course they are a local Minneapolis company so it is really easy to find/get support for so I may be a bit biased. Also, I think they were just purchased by some other company.

      -J

    14. Re:The Other Star Trek References by dasheiff · · Score: 1

      The military uses needle-less pneumatic hypodermic injectors to do mass injections--perhaps lining up a regiment to all get a Tetanus booster or something. How is this related to McCoy's spray hypo? I'm not sure.

      I know this one isn't true, the hypo-spray has been around way longer than Star Trek, it's just not in main use because it's hard to sterilize, and until very recently hurt like a bitch.

    15. Re:The Other Star Trek References by Bugmaster · · Score: 1

      A more modern reference: the process of copying an application from one mobile device to another (pioneered by Palm) is also called "beaming".

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    16. Re:The Other Star Trek References by ElderKorean · · Score: 1
      It's a conglomeration of the words "phase" and "laser." I guess that would mean it produces lots of different wavelengths at once?

      Just like a lightbulb, hardly ground breaking.

    17. Re:The Other Star Trek References by ZPO · · Score: 1

      It's actually a bit more complicated than that. There is typically "the bridge" which is the navigation brige used to steer the ship. What is of more interest (to a geek) is the Combat Information Center (CIC). The CIC is where the military power of a vessel/taskgroup/battlegroup is controlled.

      A civillian tour is cool, but to really get a sense of it you need to be in one during operations underway.

      All that being said the more current setups (I'm not old enough to remember the WWII and immediate post-war CIC's) Are actually pretty well setup.
      It's also totally windowless, dark, and a bit cramped. On the Aegis ships depending on your position you can take the 25+deg rolls forward/backward or left/right. Great way to get seasick

      You can probably find some pictures of a CIC online.

  72. Here's a selection by pq · · Score: 2
    SF has a long history of interacting with science (and not just physics!). Off the top of my head, here's a selection:
    • First the obvious: "Cyberspace" was first made popular in William Gibson's Neuromancer, the first of the cyberpunk novels.
    • Biotechnology, and the possibility of reviving extinct species with trans-species surrogate mothers or eggs is almost a commonplace concept now, but when Jurassic Park (Michael Crichton's book, not the movie) came out, it was path-breaking.
    • Books to watch in future are Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age for nanotech and "replicators," and Snow Crash, for the future evolution of virtual worlds as well as pizza delivery... :-)
    • The obscure: the concept of vacuum energy was actually propounded in a Physical Review Letters article by Robert L. Forward before Asimov borrowed it to power his spaceships (the starship "Forward") - I forget the book, but it might have been Friday.
    • And the obvious once again: geosynchronous sattelites were predicted (but not patented) by Arthur Clarke - that's why they are called Clarke orbits. And watch for the Beanstalk to be built some day, on Mars if not Earth.
    • Speaking of Mars: Robert Zubrin's book, The Case for Mars, pitches a serious plan for the manned exploration of Mars that has at least forced some re-thinking at NASA. The ideas were borrowed, reworked and expanded somewhat in Kim Stanley Robinson's Red Mars: look for a future manned Mars mission to use many of those ideas.
    • Of course, the Three Laws of Robotics have influenced AI researchers, if not AI research...
    That's a smattering - I'm sure there are many many more that others will list.

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    1. Re:Here's a selection by ab762 · · Score: 1

      This post obviously leaked in from an alternate universe. Asimov's Friday would be a lot like Heinlein's Foundation trilogy.

    2. Re:Here's a selection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Books to watch in future are Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age for nanotech and "replicators,"

      Umm, I can't recall which one of the Venus Equilateral stories had a "replicator", but I think they pre-date The Diamond Age by quite a few years. The Venus Equilateral stories were based on vacuum-tubes, not ics.

      They're also quite a good read, if you've missed them. Tech stories, with the people using science and ingenuity to solve problems. The replicators came by recording the signals sent by a transporter, and replaying them :)

      I've often wondered why Star Trek never tried that . It'd be perfect for ST:TNG's character, Data. He's unique (well, ecept for his evil brother), and irreplaceable, yet even that far into the future, they *still* don't make backup copies of their Data :)

    3. Re:Here's a selection by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

      \i{The obscure: the concept of vacuum energy was actually propounded in a Physical Review Letters article by Robert L. Forward before Asimov borrowed it to power his spaceships (the starship "Forward") - I forget the book, but it might have been Friday.}

      The book was the "Songs of Distant Earth".

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    4. Re:Here's a selection by pq · · Score: 1
      This post obviously leaked in from an alternate universe. Asimov's Friday would be a lot like Heinlein's Foundation trilogy.

      Ugh, my bad. Monday, Monday...

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    5. Re:Here's a selection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My, aren't you the evil little troll, STOP IT! (And such a low UID, for shame!)

    6. Re:Here's a selection by Goonie · · Score: 2

      "Songs of Distant Earth" was actually by Arthur C. Clarke. Nice little book, IMHO.

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    7. Re:Here's a selection by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

      You're right... I knew that... I was so busy correcting the book, I forgot to correct the author!

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  73. What about ... by rnb · · Score: 1

    Philip K. Dick?

    I've only read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, but it seems like he was prolific and had a lot of interesting ideas about the future.

  74. 'web' - John Brunner by justrob · · Score: 1


    I beleive John Brunner coined the term 'web'
    back in 1975 in his novel Shockwave Rider. I don't
    know if he was the first to use it though.

  75. Evolution by WhatThe?? · · Score: 1

    This is like athe chicken and the egg. Which came first.

    It will be hard to determine if any authour's ideas ever influenced the inventor.

    I think the invention process is more evolutionary .

    Just my .02 cents

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  76. Jules Verne by oooga · · Score: 1

    I know you said post-WWII, but still, when it comes to sci-fi and technology, it's hard to ignore the contributions of that lovable bearded Frenchman.

    Take, for instance, his two space exploration books, _From the Earth to the Moon_ and _Round the Moon_. While it's uncertain whether he accurately predicted such things as the proper launch spot for a lunar craft (Cape Canaveral) or whether scientists based their space race developments off his writings, those two books certainly affected the Apollo missions and other subsequent space exploration.

    And, of course, his famous Nautilus, with it's electric screw and incandescent lights (in 1860, I think) proved to be a remarkably accurate glimpse into the future. Not to mention the diving suits, electric charge rifles, etc.

    I think it's important, in dealing with the history of sci-fi and it's effects on modern technology to at least touch on the creator of science fiction, even if you don't use it as a major focus of the course.

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  77. "Island in the Sky" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Written in 1952, It is a story based around a sustainable space station in one of the lagrange points. It (the fictional space station) used centrifugal force to simulate gravity (i.e. a spinning space station).

    Can't remember much else about it seeing as how I read it about 20 years ago. I do remember that it was the book that got me started on reading SF (esp. hard SF).

  78. 1984: Couple decades off... by ScottBrady · · Score: 3


    Don't forget 1984 by Orwell for the depiction of an un-blinking eye of surveillance controlled by the government.

    ::cough:: carnivore, echelon, face recognition ::cough::

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    1. Re:1984: Couple decades off... by geekoid · · Score: 3

      If you read 1984, you will relize that its not a "couple of decades off". The concepts in the book that make that true are the truly frightning ones.

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    2. Re:1984: Couple decades off... by sbeitzel · · Score: 2
      ...and you might be interested to know a couple of things about 1984:
      • The title comes from the year in which it was written, 1948, and was meant as an indictment of Orwell's contemporary society and not as a dystopian prediction.
      • The whole darned story is a retelling of Yevgeny Zamyatin's We, which was written in Russia in 1921.
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  79. Re:Novels have no effect upon scientific developme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    of course. engineers, scientists, geeks -- these people never read sci-fi; they're never enchanted with visions of the future as young boys and girls, they are not so impressionable, and scientists as a result are never sci-fi reading dreamers. scientific discovery and innovation always result from practical necessity. isn't it obvious?

  80. Heinlein by JoeD · · Score: 1

    Heinlein first described those remote-controlled hands used to manipulate radioactive or otherwise dangerous materials from behind a thick window. They're called "waldoes" after the story he described them in, "Waldo".

    He also described the moving sidewalk, and the waterbed. The waterbed was described so well that the first person to build one was unable to patent it.

  81. The Water Bed, brought to you by Heinlein by SeraphtheSilver · · Score: 1

    He actually inspired the fellow who invented the waterbed after reading 'Stranger in a Strange Land' where a somewhat similar device is mentioned. The fellow sent Heinlein the first waterbed ever made as a thank-you present.

    On a side note, Heinlein's influence goes beyond just the technological. I go to university in Kingston, Canada, at Queen's. We've got the same school bookstore as the boys at the Royal Military College so you can actually see what the future military leaders of Canada get to read.

    Guess which Heinlein novel crops up as compulsory reading for first year cadets?

    1. Re:The Water Bed, brought to you by Heinlein by Tassach · · Score: 1
      Guess which Heinlein novel crops up as compulsory reading for first year cadets?


      Starship Troopers. I'm guessing, but that is the book I would have military cadets read if I was writing the cirriculum. [Of course I'd want them to read Stranger in a Strange Land and/or The Moon is a Harsh Mistress too, to help shake them of the typical military conservative mindset; as well as the short story The Last Patrol to remind them that sometimes you have a duty to disobey a superior's orders.]

      Remember that Heinlien was educated at the U.S. Naval Academy as an engineer; his writing career arose after he received a medical discharge from the Navy.

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  82. Orson Scott Card by Gorppet · · Score: 2, Informative
    Ender's Game:

    • Adaptive games
    • online discussion forums
    • instant messaging (the smart desks)


    I'd include email, but that was already invented (although I doubt he knew about it)
  83. Arthur C. Clarke by 3dr · · Score: 1
    After the Apollo missions, Arthur C. Clarke was asked just how he knew what the trip would be like. I don't know which books the interrogators were referring to, but obviously those written prior to 1969.

    From the _Rama_ series, the idea of inputting a specification for an arbitrary object, and having it produced by a machine is a more refined form of our current (and still fairly new) 3-D printers. I.e., you render your object in CAD and the printer creates a molten-plastic part as a result. (I've seen these printers demo'd at conferences and having a working gear assembly produced in plastic, on demand, is incredible.)

    Clarke is also credited with the concept of geosynchronous telecommunications satellites. Does anyone know if the concept was originally described in his books or elsewhere?

    Your class topic would be a fun paper.

    1. Re:Arthur C. Clarke by sceptre1067 · · Score: 1
      His concept for the geosynchronous satellites was in one of his non-fiction essays.

      Don't forget the 'Clark Belt' (where geosynch. satellites reside, named after Mr. C.)

  84. I'm working on a project that is somewhat related. by garcia · · Score: 2

    I am showing how Dr. Strangelove by Kubrik broke the mold on thermonuclear war genre films. It was the first mainstream movie to cast a negative light (in a funny way of course) on the government policies and policy makers.

    Check out Variety for listings of reviews for related movies.

    There is also a reference book that I found in the Pop-Culture library: Film by Genre, Daniel Lopez, 1993 There are plenty of references to Sci-Fi, etc there.

    Enjoy.

  85. Trek dissed e-books by Bikku · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I thought the one clear prediction Star Trek made around e-books was their rejection. Starship captains always made such a big deal about having genuine leather-bound books for their pleasure reading. Sure, e-books are fine as a query interface to a computer system, or as a data capture device. But nobody wants to use them for reading. Thirty years later the e-book makers still don't get it. Just maybe there's more to "reading a book" than the viewing of text on a page-by-page basis?

    1. Re:Trek dissed e-books by nafmo · · Score: 1

      But even in the very first episode of Star Trek, the guy (whose name I of course forget) who turned super-intelligent (or thereabouts) reads the ships books from a screen. Looks a lot like microfiche, though.

    2. Re:Trek dissed e-books by JesseL · · Score: 2

      Nobody? I happen to prefer reading ebooks over conventional books. I like being able to read in bed with the lights out and never having to shift my position when I turn a page. I like being able to finish one book in the middle of the night, go to Baen.com of Fictionwise and get another book, without getting dressed and driving to a bookstore. I like being able to carry a couple hundred novels in my pocket without thinking about it. I do not miss "the feel" of a "real" book in the slightest. I do not miss having no room left on my shelves for hundreds of ultra-low-density volumes.

      Honestly, sometimes I think all the people who like to bash ebooks have never even tried them.

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    3. Re:Trek dissed e-books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Face it.

      You are a strange being.

      Also, reading a lit screen in the dark is very bad for your eyesight. You may be reading braille books in a few years.

    4. Re:Trek dissed e-books by JesseL · · Score: 2

      According to this reading in the dark isn't likley to cause any permanent damage to your eyes. Also, since my PDA is backlit I don't even suffer from any eye strain.

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    5. Re:Trek dissed e-books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Nah, he's not.


      I've read about 10 e-books so far on my Visor. I don't read at night in the dark, but have read it in bed quite a bit and concur on the no shifting position issue (always been a problem with paperbacks).


      Besides, in addition to Baen, I love to find project Gutenburg-like sites with the classics. I'm reading a Tale of Two Cities and just finished the original Tarzan. Both books I most likely would not have gotten around to anytime soon otherwise.


      Finally, don't discount mobility. I love the fact I always have about 5 books in my pocket, perfect for airplanes, etc.


      eBooks are a lot like any other technology. There will always be people who like the old way (and I've got quite a library at home besides, the joy of bookowning is something completely independent of eBooks) and there will always be people who try and embrace the new technology. This is stuff that happens over generations, not overnight.


      :-)

    6. Re:Trek dissed e-books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're talking about Kahn, that would be because those books weren't availiable in paper on the ship (AFAIK -- who wants technical manuals bound in leather?)

    7. Re:Trek dissed e-books by Dennis+G.+Jerz · · Score: 1

      On DS9, Jake Sisko's was sometimes shown writing stories and articles on a PADD. I seem to remember a scene in which his father has picked up a PADD, and is commenting on Jake's writing.

      I noticed that Jake was dragging a stylus across the screen of the prop, as if he was highlighting text, and then writing in a little square space on the surface of the PADD, much like I do when I work with my palm computer. (So was the science fiction technology imitating real life in this case?)

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    8. Re:Trek dissed e-books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > If you're talking about Kahn, that would be because those books weren't availiable in paper on the ship (AFAIK -- who wants technical manuals bound in leather?)

      No, he's talking about the 2nd pilot, the one where Enterprise goes thru the barrier at the edge of the galaxy and Gary Mitchell turns into a super-esper. First clue to Mitchell's condition was his reading the ship's tech library, available on the sickbay viewscreens, in an impossibly short period of time..

    9. Re:Trek dissed e-books by IAmSancho · · Score: 1
      Just maybe there's more to "reading a book" than the viewing of text on a page-by-page basis?

      Precisely. Read "The Gutenberg Elegies : The Fate of Reading in an Electronic Age" by Sven Birkerts. Great book.

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    10. Re:Trek dissed e-books by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      Let's not forget Uhura being back up to a "6 year old" level in only a few days of learning.

      And the 8 year old in TNG who didn't wanna go to his "calculus" class.

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    11. Re:Trek dissed e-books by roman_mir · · Score: 2

      For twenty years I used to read only usual books since I had no choice, now I only read electronic versions of books, especially if I can get them from electronic library (www.lib.ru) this library is in Russian but it has tens of thousands of titles (half of them are foreign titles) and I do not print the books, I read them from the screen. It would be perfect, but I still am waiting for the really good electronic book to come out, something like what these guys are building: www.eink.com

  86. Walkman by bobdinkel · · Score: 1

    I wish I had more info, but I seem to recall that the idea for the Sony Walkman came from Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451.

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  87. what about mythology? by displague · · Score: 1

    Are there any stories of gods or creatures that could emit light from their eyes? I'm sure something like this exists. If they depicted narrow beams,which didn't exist in latern times (well they did play with mirrors), then you could suggest that such an idea gave birth to flashlights or laser beams? or is that too far fetched?

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    1. Re:what about mythology? by friscolr · · Score: 2

      more than that- what about all the cultures around the world with legends/drawings of visitors resembling astronauts, objects resembling flying saucers and landing strips? check out the Nazca lines in Peru, various works of art depicting saucers and more.

    2. Re:what about mythology? by JimPooley · · Score: 2

      What about the fact that Erich Von Daniken is a complete wanker who made all that shit up to impress the terminally gullible?

      It's bollocks, it all is.

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  88. Princess Bride by Leif_Bloomquist · · Score: 1


    "Turn the Machine up to 10! Time for a staff meeting..."

    Assuming Fantasy is relevant...

    1. Re:Princess Bride by Bob+McCown · · Score: 1
      "Turn the Machine up to 10! Time for a staff meeting..."

      But this one goes to eleven!

  89. Brave New World by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I know this dates back way before WWII, but Brave New World by Aldus(sp?) Huxley had a lot of concepts and items that became real.


    This includes

    • Debit Cards
    • Cable Entertainment service (audio in this case)
    • Hmmm. I'm blanking, I know I saw dozens of items in this book, and it dates back to the late 1800's.


    -GReg
  90. Waterbeds by mattbelcher · · Score: 1

    First seen in Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein.

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  91. Re:Novels have no effect upon scientific developme by aratas · · Score: 1

    Are you saying that not a single invention in the last 50 years was made by some geek engineer watching ST and saying "Oh, I could make something like that!"...???

    Not even 1 (one) engineer/researcher/inventor took a single, solitary idea from some form of science fiction, conciously or subconciously? Not one of them has ever seen or been exposed to film or literature that included some concept or device that they later used?

    Not even one?

  92. Neal Stephenson books by DeepDarkSky · · Score: 2

    The Diamond Age has a bunch of very interesting technology - especially in the realm of nanotechnology and virtual presence/reality.

    Then there is Snow Crash, with its metaverse, of course, and all of the associated online virtual reality as well.

    Only one other thing I could think of as relating to real world but not by Neal Stephenson is Orson Scott Card's Ender's game series' ansible technology, which seems to be similar to some kind of quantum entanglement based (the closest thing I think it resembles) instantaneous communication over long distances (measured in light years).

  93. Gullivers travels???? by aauu · · Score: 1

    Little endian vs big endian has nothing to do with Gulliver's travels. In a computer architecture the bits of a binary number can be read right to left or left to right. Understand that left to right is an extremely abstract (and culturally dependent) concept related to viewing increasing memory addresses being read from right to left. For example 123 one hundred twenty three in big endian and three hundred twenty one in little endian. This term came from which part of the binary number is on the left, either the most significant (big) or the least significant digit (little). Intel is the prime example of a little endian architecture. Most other computer manufacturers did use big endian including the internet.

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    1. Re:Gullivers travels???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It has everything to do with Gullible's travels. He was illustrating how holy wars erupt over disagreements about irellevant issues. Just like in the computer world, little endian is no more "correct" than big endian. Swift basically described the entire social structure of the internet with it's continuous rolling flamewars, trolls, baby eating satanists and japaneese tentacle pr0n.

    2. Re:Gullivers travels???? by arkanes · · Score: 1

      Right, and comp sci doesn't have ANY culturally dependent and abstract naming conventions. And I didn't know "the internet" was a computer manufacturer.

  94. 'worm' as well by cjhuitt · · Score: 1

    When the actual technology of self-replicating programs hit the web, a type of the programs was named "worm", from the name John Brunner used for the software in his novel Shockwave Rider.

  95. Mal-Ware and Sci-Fi by rlp · · Score: 1

    Brunner's Shockwave Rider inspired the first worm program (in the mid-80's). The book When Harlie Was One by David Gerrold (wrote original Trek "Trouble with Tribbles episode) written years before PC's describes "virus" and "vaccine" programs.

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  96. patent on satellites by Yurian · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think the (possible myth?) is that his original description in his story was so good that years later when someone else came to try and patent satellites, they found they couldn't because of the story was such an accurate description that it was considered a sort of "prior art" on par with a scientific paper.I'm not entirely sure to what extent this is really true.

    Considering what's happened to the patent office since then, though, I could probably waltz down to the patent office tomorrow, and they'd have no trouble handing me a patent on staellites. Or large orbiting mind control lasers for that matter.

  97. Pulp fiction, etc. by Alien54 · · Score: 2

    You would also likely need to check out the pulp fiction era from the 30s and 40s - especially editors like John W. Campbell, who discovered authors like Asimov. They provided a market for people who talented in an age when work was hard to find (the late depression)

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  98. Tom Swift Jr. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Depending on your definition of "science fiction" you could include the Tom Swift Jr. series of books. Victor Appleton (the catchall name for the authors) came up with a number of ideas that have been turned into real world devices. The one that comes to mind quickest is the "Little Idiot" - a hand held computing device. (unheard of back when the books were written..)

  99. Ender's Game was published in 1985 by typical+geek · · Score: 1

    The "internet" was alive and well back then.

  100. Interplanetary Flight by Arthur C. Clarke by dwschulze · · Score: 2, Interesting
    While not really science fiction the book "Interplanetary Flight" (ASIN: 0425064484), first published in the 1950s and republished in the 1980s, presented options for interplanetary space flight that were fiction at the time of its publication.

    Clarke discussed the concept of putting artificial satellites into earth orbit and suggests that while that sounds fantastic it might not seem so far-fetched if the earth had more than one natural satellite. Reading that comment in the 1980s made me realize how much our thinking has changed in the 20th century.

    He also discussed at least 2 options for escaping the enormous pull of earth's gravity. One option is to use a space station as a refueling platform. The other was to use a multistage spacecraft that jettisons empty fuel tanks to reduce its weight.

    Another book to check out is Clarke's "Ascent to Orbit" (ASIN: 047187910X), his scientific autobiography.

    These two books probably fall under the category of futurism rather than science fiction, but they give great appreciation for his genius as scientist, writer, and futurist.

    1. Re:Interplanetary Flight by Arthur C. Clarke by ZeroLogic · · Score: 1

      Anyone else find it interesting that rather than refer to the books by their ISBN numbers, dwschulze used their Amazon SKU (which is technicaly the ISBN, but the point is that he called it an ASIN and not an ISBN).

    2. Re:Interplanetary Flight by Arthur C. Clarke by yusing · · Score: 1

      Let us not forget the vivid imagination of Willy Ley (1906-1969), engineer extraordinaire. An important figure in popularizing the concept of space travel.

      Willy wrote many inspiring books and articles, some heavily illustrated with fanciful and inspiring pictures by artist Chesley Bonestell.

      Rockets, Missiles and Men in Space, The Conquest of Space, and Beyond the Solar System are a few classic (and highly collectible) titles.

      Brief Ley biography here.

      A Ley bibliography here.

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    3. Re:Interplanetary Flight by Arthur C. Clarke by dwschulze · · Score: 1

      It's really very simple: I looked them up on Amazon. Why anyone would find that interesting is beyond me.

  101. Danny Dunn Anyone? by Leif_Bloomquist · · Score: 2, Informative

    Often overlooked is the Danny Dunn series from the 50's and 60's. This series had some far out stuff (anti-gravity paint, time travel, the "Honey I shrunk the kids" machine.)

    However, some really spot-on predictions were:

    -The Home Computer ("The Homework Machine")

    -X10 (not the cameras, "The Automated House")

    -Miniature Submarines (proper name for these? was in "On the Ocean Floor")

    -Teleoperation / augmented reality (I can't remember which one, had a tele-operated machine that looked like a butterfly)

    1. Re:Danny Dunn Anyone? by Leif_Bloomquist · · Score: 1

      Found a more comprehensive title list. The one with the teleoperated machine (with goggles, gloves and haptic interface) was called "Danny Dunn, Invisible Boy."

  102. A few things off the top of my head by halothane · · Score: 1

    There was a book called "The Shockwave Rider" which described worm for the first time, I believe. It also featured a hacker hero who saves the world. That doesn't seem to have happened yet. ;-))
    Then the trinity of SF:

    Heinlein: wladoes, waterbeds, moving walkways etc
    Asimov: robots and robotics (he invented the term)
    Clarke: geosynchronous satellites, space towers using carbon nanotubes etc

    Then there is Vinge who has the idea that the next phase of evolution is a sudden transcendence of the human race by artificial intelligence over a very short period (hours to days). There is even a project named "mind" on sourceforge based on this.
    Lots more I am sure.

  103. Palm Pilot vs The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by hazem · · Score: 1

    Right at the beginning of The Hitchhiker's Guide, Adams pretty nearly describes a Palm Pilot.

    Of course, today's Palm does not quite have the information found in the Guide, but I'm sure that will be the next add-on.

  104. palm-sized computers..... by tedmeister · · Score: 1

    .... that everyone relies on heavily are mentioned quite a bit in "The Mote in God's Eye" by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle(sp). I think it was written in the late 70s or early 80s, certainly long before any such devices existed. I read a bunch of Niven's "Known Space" series, but not his more recent works. There's a bunch of stuff about how various technologies might effect society, such as teleportation, organ transplantation (without the rejection problems), room-temperature superconductors, youth drugs, sonic "stun guns" that knock you out but cause no damage, etc.

  105. There's quarks by dipfan · · Score: 1

    Murray Gell-Mann, the physicist, applied the name "quark" to the fundamental parts of the nucleon in 1963, taking the word from James Joyce's Finnegans Wake. Now, it's hard to categorize Finnegans Wake as sci-fi - but then it's hard to categorize Finnegans Wake as any branch of literature in particular. On every page there's the name of a river... so who knows?

  106. Iain M. Banks by krek · · Score: 1

    I feel that Star Trek was the essence of "blueprint for the future" type stories as far as I am concerned. But its time has passed for the new blueprint check out any of Iain M. Banks' SF stories, especially "Use of Weapons" this guy is a visionary without equal! Glanding is the tech that I want the most, very cool!

    1. Re:Iain M. Banks by Triple+D · · Score: 1

      Excellent book! I just hope the Culture's meddling doesn't turn to be "blueprint for the future" Oh, too late!

  107. Science Fiction v. Fact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just the opposite of the requester, I'm a physicist whose minor concentration was English Literature (more specifically, drama including the works of GB Shaw.)
    My interest was in how science infiltrated fiction, and how the public then got it so wrong.
    Readers may find interesting a work from the early '60s, wherein the phrase "information science" was coined. It's by a fellow named Kenneth Craven, titled something like 'Information Personnel'. Ken then was hired by IBM as their guru for how to staff a corporation, and what its purpose should be in a coming "information age." He later charged ATT ~$50,000/hr. (Yes, that's hr) to advise how to to break up their $6B corp and remain players in the next future market. That's only a small part of his true history.

  108. Vernor Vinge by muness · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Vernor Vinge is a prophetic sci fi writer. (Not to mention an awesome, engaging stylist with intriguing story lines).

    Salon had an article on him some time back. [ http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/1999/04/05/vinge / ].

    '"True Names" today reads more like a piece of reportage than speculative science fiction. William Gibson may get all the glory for defining the word "cyberspace," but Vinge actually nailed the details. "True Names" includes online gathering places identical to the MUDs (multi-user domains) that became the online rage in the late '80s. Its protagonists guard their real names from the National Security Agency and other hackers with cryptographic safeguards, just like today's cryptopunks'.

    The internet ("True Names"), computer generated photo-realistic movies ("The Accomplice"), Human-Computer interfaces ("Bookworm, Run!" and his real time stories - "The Peace War" and others).
    He wrote "The Accomplice" in the 60's and set it in '93 so he was almost right-on in that case.

    His prediction of a coming Singularity are pretty interesting too. [ http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~phoenix/vinge/vinge-s ing.html ].

  109. Examples that I remember (in no particular order) by Hanno · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To all these claims: These are things I heard someplace. I did not research any of these, so don't take these as fact.

    It is claimed that the 1929 movie "Woman in the Moon" invented the launch count-down.

    Star Trek PADD and today's PDAs. (I believe that the Newton actually has been designed with the show's device in mind.

    IIRC, pressurized, needle-free vaccination devices have been designed after watching McCoy doing medical treatment on Trek. After a short web search, one of them appears to be the Gene Gun described here.

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  110. Fountains of Paradise by meta-monkey · · Score: 2, Redundant

    I'm pretty sure Foutains of Paradise by Arthur C. Clarke was the first mention of the "space elevator" idea. Basically, a station in geosynchronous orbit with a giant anchor extended further out in space is connected to a spot near the equator (in Sri Lanka, I believe) by a diamond filament, and then one can simply ride an elevator into space. Research has been looking into this more and more in recent years as some exotic materials are beginning to show up which may be strong enough to support this endevour. I think I recall an article or a show on the Discovery channel recently about how carbon nanotubes might be able to fill this role, if they could be extruded to lengths longer than a few microns.

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    1. Re:Fountains of Paradise by iguana · · Score: 1

      The main character of _Fountains of Paradise_ was outfitted with a device (called "CORA") that would monitor his heart. When the character had a heart attack, CORA tried to call a hospital for help and eventually began to yell verbally for human assistance.

      I think I've seen medical alert devices like this, especially for live-at-home elderly.

    2. Re:Fountains of Paradise by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

      No, the space elevator was invented by Yuri Artsutanov. Clarke explicitly gives him credit in the afterword to "Fountains of Paradise".

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  111. Spam! by friscolr · · Score: 2
    (like the 'Little-Endian, Big-Endian' terms which were lifted from Gulliver's Travels, or 'Babel Fish' from Douglas Adams)

    Spam spam spam!

    term comes from Monty Python's Flying Circus skit.

    the jargon file has other notes of etymological interest.

    1. Re:Spam! by Karma+50 · · Score: 1

      It's just the name though.

      No one is denying Monty Python has greatly influenced culture, but you can't reasonably claim that they have had a particularly noticeable effect on the development of technology.

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  112. HG wells by DeepHootie · · Score: 1

    Didn't he say something about hurtling ourselves into space on fantastic explosions?

    Amazing what you learn from Back to the Future part 2

    1. Re:HG Wells by renard · · Score: 2
      Just wanted to second this choice. The War of the Worlds was just loaded with now-standard ideas including landing vessels, motorized spacesuits (for the Martians!), and heat-rays / lasers.

      -Renard

  113. The Physics of Star Trek by bubblegoose · · Score: 1

    The Physics of Star Trek by Lawrence M. Krauss with a foreword by Stephen Hawking. This book has been out since 1996. It looks at some of the made up science of Star Trek and then explains how some of these things could possibly happen in the future. The physics seemed pretty solid and it was pretty readable as I recall.

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  114. Yes, they do by Tony · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How many scientists, engineers, and researchers were influenced by the books they read as kids? Asimov himself was one, though he ended up doing little research.

    How much were the scientists who shot the moon influenced by Verne, Welles, and E. E. Doc Smith? If many of them were inspired by these authors' works, then the novels indeed had an impact and influence on technology.

    Many authors directly and indirectly influenced our technosphere. Clarke calculated geosynchronous orbit; most satellites orbit in the belt named after him. Larry Niven's warnings about the effects of organ transplants has changed the way people approach the ethics of taking organs from executed criminals. (Incidently, the "Slashdot effect" is really nothing more than a virtual flash crowd, which Niven predicted as a result of easy teleportation.)

    The early works about robots and sentient computers have influenced the direction of research in these fields. AI researchers talk earnestly about the three laws of robotics.

    Terraforming was an idea first proposed in science fiction. The US First Contact Protocol is based on science fiction scenerios.

    SF influences science and research because scientists tend to read science fiction. If that doesn't color our ideas of the world (which in turn influences our research), then our imagination has died.

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    1. Re:Yes, they do by Planesdragon · · Score: 1

      The US First Contact Protocol is based on science fiction scenerios.

      I was not aware that the US even had a formal First Contact proposal. Do you have a handy link, or shall I shlep search engines for it myself?

    2. Re:Yes, they do by shogun · · Score: 1

      I was not aware that the US even had a formal First Contact proposal.

      Plausible Denyability

    3. Re:Yes, they do by Tony · · Score: 2

      This is probably the best place to start:
      Contact. This is similar to the references I have seen before-- groups of scientists and science fiction authors brought together to create first contact scenarios. Although Contact is not a political group, it is a scientific association.

      Here is the actual link to our "First Contact" protocol.

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    4. Re:Yes, they do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many scientists, engineers, and researchers were influenced by the books they read as kids? Asimov himself was one, though he ended up doing little research.

      USRobotics (Palm computers) is named after
      Asimov's corp of the same name. (read in an
      interview with founder). This is like the "babel
      fish" example, a marketing/personal rather than
      an engineering influence.

      Much as I like Larry Niven's work, I've sought in
      vain for any reference to him in organ transplant
      debates. Any ideas in common are by parallel
      thought, IMO.

      Cheers,
      Brendan

  115. Asimov and "Robot" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Asimov did not invent the word robot. However, he is credited with "robotics" and "positronic", as in a robot's positronic brain, as opposed to electronic.

    1. Re:Asimov and "Robot" by mwood · · Score: 1

      Also, the founder of Unimation has said that he was inspired by Asimov's depiction of robots as realistic engineering products (as opposed to unpredictable, soulless monsters as in _Frankenstein_).

    2. Re:Asimov and "Robot" by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      Let's also not forget that much of the time, robots are used symbolically to explore humanity, not to extrapolate on a realistic scenario of what-if utility to humanity.

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  116. NOT the Jetsons... by smasherjohann · · Score: 1

    There was an article in Popular Mechanics a while back that held up the Jetsons as an example of sci-fi predicting future technology trends.
    I had to laugh -- I remember an episode where George flies across town in his personal jet car to mail a letter. How much more wrong could you get predictions of email?
    Of course, the same article also praised Star trek, which also often missed the technology prediction boat. The article is here As for literature, I'd go with Asimov as having the best predictions!

  117. Douglas Adams by stinkydog · · Score: 2

    How can we forget:

    The New Economy was powered by the Heart of Gold's Infinate Improbability Drive.

    How else do you explain poop by mail.

    SD

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  118. James H. Schmitz: The Internet by RoKlein · · Score: 1

    James Schmitz' ComWeb is a sort of Multimedia Internet. His stories are currently reprinted by Bean Books. The ComWeb system is used in Schmitz "Hub" Universe, which is covered in vol. one to four ("Telzey Amberdon", "TnT: Telzey and Trigger", "Trigger & Friends" and "The Hub: Dangerous Territory").

    There's a web site covering Schmitz, as well as Randall Garrett and Howard L. Myers: . Don't miss Guy Gordon's essay "That certain something", to quote him: 'Here is Schmitz, in 1970, describing business being done "on internet time".'. In "TnT" there's an additional sentence, missing in the online essay: 'And his "ComWeb" may be the best presagement of the Internet in all of science fiction.'.

    Those stories are a good read, even if you don't use them for your course;)

    Robert

  119. True Names by Marsh+Jedi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In terms of computer tech, I would have to suggest Vernor Vinge, an excellent hard Sci-Fi writer and UC San Diego Comp Sci emeritus who deals largely with the technological possibilities of distributed systems and their subsequent effects on civilization.

    Specifically, he postulated cyberspace (long before Gibson) in a novella called True Names, and also speculates on the future of mankind as the rate of technological innovation continues to accelerate, perhaps towards some sort of singularity beyond which further human endeavor will be somewhat incomprehensible to us.

    He has won several awards, in particular for A Fire Upon the Deep, which looks at the "silence in the sky" problem....as in, if life is so damned plentiful in this universe, where are all the visible-forty-lights-away Bussard Ramjet flares? He uses a solution to this question as a unique premise for the novel. Awesome.

    1. Re:True Names by desdemona · · Score: 1

      I'd also have to add Vinge's descriptions of 'localizers' in A Deepness In The Sky. Thousands and thousands of tiny processors, powered by microwave pulses and keeping track of their own location, provide very powerful distributed processing wherever the wind blows. People talk about pervasive computing - this is the kind of tech that'll happen...

  120. ACs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The latest AC and Troll posts suck.

    When I used to read slashdot, half of the fun was figuring out who was really posting true shit and who was making up information of the tops of his or her head. Now - look at what has happened - trolls can easily be separated from the normal post pretty damn easily.

    Now, while I enjoy the random "how was the anal sex?" post, there needs to be a call to arms to all of us who read this horrid piece of elitist shit every day.

    Examples of good trolls are:

    1. Submit bullshit stories: cmdr taco and his faggot friends are usually so busy performing anal rape on their latest handheld Linux devices that they never check if a story is actually true. If you are lucky, they will turn around repost your story with their name on top.

    2.Submit Bullshit Comments: Starting a post with "here at Microsoft" or "when I was at Hewlett Packard" gets these people's panties all in a bind and will be a sure that your post will get modded up.

  121. Novels = Zero Scientific Influence by scotpurl · · Score: 3

    And no, I'm not out trolling today.

    The micro-sized cell phones today are an evolution. The first wave came from the idea of merging a phone with a radio, which would allow you to not have to run wires everywhere.

    After that, the radio phones were made more portable. Then they were made small enough to carry around in cars. Then small enough to lug around occasionally (check out Danny Glover's cell phone in the first 'Lethal Weapon' movie). Then as small as normal radios. Then smaller.

    Science Fiction gets to ignore all the problems and history of actually getting to the point in history where someone can use the gadget -- and Science Fiction has the option of ignoring reality -- which is something Engineers would love to be able to do (it'd make life sooo much easier). Sci-Fi ignores all the hard-won science and discovery that must occur before a magic device is even possible. Scientific discovery is evolutionary -- it builds heavily upon the work of all those previous, and can not exist without everything that came before it.

    What we must seperate is the influence SciFi has upon an individual's decision to enter a field. The young engineer (proto-engineer?) finds that SciFi appeals to them, and that engineering sounds cool, and decides to pursue engineering. In that respect, SciFi influences the career choice of the engineer.

    However, no engineer goes through college for the express purpose of making real an invention they read in a book when they were 14 years old.

    The author, who needs a plot device, gets to ignore enough reality to make the device just plausible enough (to most people) to continue the story forward. To the engineers and researchers familiar with the subject matter, they can list for you reason after reason why it's impossible, or why it won't work.

    1. Re:Novels = Zero Scientific Influence by ShannonClark · · Score: 0

      But you forget a few very very important facts.

      Fact One - ALL products start off as "non-working" designs - and get evolved into what can actually work - on a TV show, film, novel, or short story perhaps more hand waving happens - but the process is not too disimilar to what "real" product develoment is.

      Fact Two - There are very few items that we "can't" build today - particularly electronic devices the actual "working" parts and components have shrunk to nearly nothing - the designer of ALL of Nokia's cell phones was recently quoted in an article (see Business 2.0 Dec edition) as saying that now "Battery size vs. duration is no longer a design issue" - i.e. they can build it any size or shape they want.

      Fact Three - Most inventions come about by someone taking an idea or concept, ignoring conventional wisdom that "it can't be done", and just setting off to do it.

      So, as an inventor myself (developing very complex software products built on cutting edge AI research) - most of what I build could easily be seen as being "impossible" - it is my job to figure out what that is not so...

      Also, think about all the technology that has been developed simply to fool us into to thinking that something works - i.e. the Special Effects industry, CGI graphics, etc.

      Another place to look and consider - a bit off the beaten track - Dick Tracy - certainly inspired the cell phone concept to a degree, as well as the comics and radio dramas of the 1930s onward - perhaps no direct "inventions" but a lot of "impossible" ideas explored in ways that certainly inspired the "real" world creators of those items years later.

      (see stuff like the actual working "rocket belt" used by Las Vegas special effects people - it really does work - and it was clearly inspired by comic books)

      Very few inventors I have met were uninfluenced by the ideas of science fiction - from at least some medium (radio, tv, film, short stories, or novels). I often read novels and consider whether I could "actually" do any of the items suggested.

      I am also an author myself - writing fiction and science fiction, indeed when I started my own company I went through an exercise of writing a "story" about how my technology could be used - this definitely is a part of how I think though the "story" of my company and our products - as a firm inventing something not yet in mass commercial use we have to be able to envision the impact and uses of our technology - and then tell the story well enough to make it true.

      What is the sales process of any new technology but that of telling a story? If instead of telling the story completely on my own I could point to a TV show and say "thats what our firms' devices will be like..." it clearly helps (though it also could invalidate a patent...*grin*)

      Shannon

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    2. Re:Novels = Zero Scientific Influence by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      Yes, a portable phone is nothing more than an evolution of the radio. Numerous important developments are in it, to be sure, but one could argue the first radio/battery strapped to Hercules' back was the first portable phone.

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  122. Now get out of my comic shop! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    "This [device?] contains a million Data"

    Ohhhh, this is soooooo incorrect:
    1. Spock was a character in TOS while Data was a character in ST:TNG. Therefore Spock had no knowledge of Data's existance. (And we all know that only the TV shows are canon, the movies are just made up Hollywood shit.)
    2. The data chips in TOS did not have sliding doors.
    3. How could something that small hold a million Data?!! They didn't have nanites it TOS either!
    4. The data chips were multicolored, not black like a (obsolete!) 1.44m floppy disc.
  123. Re:Novels have no effect upon scientific developme by Hanno · · Score: 5, Informative

    A snippet from a BBC News article, May 11 2000:

    Science fiction powers space research

    The European Space Agency (Esa) is studying science fiction for ideas and technologies that could be used in future missions.

    A panel of readers is currently combing sci-fi novels and short stories published in the early decades of the last century to see if technology has caught up with ideas that were futuristic when first put into print.

    Any good ideas turned up in the search will be assessed by scientists to see if they can help the agency in its ongoing mission to explore space.

    Knowledgeable fans of science fiction are also being encouraged to send in suggestions to help Esa spot sources of good ideas.

    (Follow link above for rest of article, interesting.)

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  124. May have already been suggested... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Firstly, all the Neal Stephenson books. Just good books and better written than most Sci Fi. His ideas also seem to me to be more like what we may actually see than William Gibson's.

    Secondly, "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" by Philip K. Dick, also probably already suggested. Good book which lead to a good movie ... Blade Runner.

    Don't read 2001. For once, the book is worse than the movie. Interesting ideas, but not well written. Movie is incredible.

  125. 1984 vs. Brave New World by El_Ge_Ex · · Score: 1

    Some people say Brave New World was written two years before it should have been. (It was written before WW2. I think it has had a large impact on the current world though. Imagine this large global society that puts other cultures into small "reservations" to be left alone. :)

    And, as anyone who has ever stopped at a traffic light in Ohio or Michigan knows, I don't even need to explain the similarities of 1984.

  126. Origins by mugnyte · · Score: 2, Informative

    To me, there's already a big source of this type of information. The members there would also help.

    I'd like to think there's interesting analogies in some of the following most popular books:

    Dick Tracey/Batman/Superman comics - compare that gear to today. Law enforcement isn't too far from it.
    Brave New World - Tech advances versus the animalistic nature of mankind
    1984 - modern homoginization of media and the "social herd" concept.
    Day Of the Triffids - agricultural bioengineering driven by money, although quite a bit of B-movie sci-fi in there.
    Foundation - psychohistory akin to reviewing patterns of internet usage and predicting outcomes
    2001 et. al - Moon mining and the possibility of so-called precious metals becoming commonplace

    Clarke, Asimov, Huxley - these were some of the earliest predictive sci-fi writers - even if they didn't know it at the time. There were TONS of pulp sci-fi books in the 50's though (giant radioactive _fill_in_blank_, etc)

    Since the 80's there's been a bandwagon effect for writing like this.

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  127. The Dreams our Stuff is Made Of by epepke · · Score: 1

    Check out The Dreams our Stuff is Made Of by Theodore Sturgeon. It's a recent review of how SF has or may have influenced the world. It would be a good starting point for a central thesis.

  128. And, Vanevar Bush predicted slashdot by john@iastate.edu · · Score: 2
    OK, that's a stretch, but he did essentially predict storage+hyperlinking+db = desktop access to a world of data.

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    1. Re:And, Vanevar Bush predicted slashdot by James+Skarzinskas · · Score: 0

      Fairly relative, that statement could have also predicted the Internet, or any database powered site. Saying Slashdot in particular is-- annoying.

  129. Farenheit 451 by ShieldWolf · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Predited many of todays technologies including the walkman, and real-time media. The book is particularly interesting because it correctly predicts the effects these technolgies would have on society. e.g. example walkmans have increased our social isolation.

    -ShieldWolf

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    1. Re:Farenheit 451 by Suidae · · Score: 1

      What is the correct plural of 'Walkman'. 'Walkmans' or 'Walkmen'. Or, is it simply 'personal stereo' and 'personal stereos', ala Xerox and photocopier?

    2. Re:Farenheit 451 by karb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      e.g. example walkmans have increased our social isolation.

      You could say that. You could also say that it finally provided an alternate avenue for those of us who had always preferred listening to music to always talking to people.

      I think casual social interaction is overrated. All the extroverts decided it was important and nobody spoke up to disagree. I am personally satisfied with a few friends and the spiral of downward moderation I receive on /.

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    3. Re:Farenheit 451 by Pseudonym · · Score: 2

      I've always thought the "cousins" from Farenheit 451 predicted online chat.

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    4. Re:Farenheit 451 by Jboy_24 · · Score: 1

      I wish I could moderate this up...

      Please tell me what extroverts want to hear when they ask "hows it going?", when they don't know you..... At least the headphones project, "Don't bother asking"

    5. Re:Farenheit 451 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "Walkman" is a word of Japanese origin (the Japanese have the strange habit of making up new words based on English words; "salaryman" is another common example). Japanese doesn't have plurals, and I don't think anybody has settled on one in the English-speaking world yet. So use whichever you like.

      I would tend to say "walkmans", though, on the grounds that neologisms shouldn't carry irregular properties.

    6. Re:Farenheit 451 by cosyne · · Score: 2

      Don't forget the robot bank tellers, or the mechanical hound attacking some random guy because the televised manhunt was for the sake of everyone out there in tv land, not for justice.

      And of course, the whole book-eradication thing...

    7. Re:Farenheit 451 by ptrourke · · Score: 1

      More a combination of soap opera and online chat.

    8. Re:Farenheit 451 by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2

      I think this is well summarized by any active IRC channel. (Active channel ops, and channel regulars that get along well enough to hold private conversations, but mostly talk in channel, etc)

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  130. Product literature by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you're looking for good science fiction reading, check out the product literature that accompanied the launch of Microsoft's Windows 95. In it, there were descriptions of a MS computer operating system that was reliable, fast, and easy.

    These bold and exotic claims were so influential, consumers actually started to want a reliable and fast OS from the company, and today, 5 years later, they are starting to produce such an operating system. It still amazes me how fiction can someday turn into fact.

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    1. Re:Product literature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder who came up with the term Troll?

    2. Re:Product literature by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      I predict we'll get warp drive before we have a truly reliable version of Windows.

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  131. telephone answering machine? by iguana · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember reading somewhere that Heinlein not only predicted the answering machine, but also predicted ghost screening (the practice of letting the answering machine pick up the phone before answering it yourself).

    In that context, there was a quote from another sci-fi author (name forgotten): "A good science fiction writer predicts the automobile. A great science fiction writer predicts the traffic jam."

  132. "The Day of an American Journalist in 2889" by Pseudonymus+Bosch · · Score: 2

    And othes like The Day of an American Journalist in 2889. Verne predicts, among other, colour photography, videophones and streaming audio news, sort of.

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  133. Calculating God (Robert Sawyer) by Bat_Masterson · · Score: 1

    If you want to ask yourself the really BIG questions about the future of science, there is the book Calculating God by Robert J. Sawyer which seems to unite science and religion. I haven't finished it yet, so I'm not sure how it comes out, but it is really interesting so far.

  134. 1984 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    George Orwell. It will make your skin crawl...

  135. The Mirrorshades Movement by Synn · · Score: 1

    There was a literary movement in the mid to late 80's called The Mirrorshades Movement that included authors such as William Gibson, Bruce Sterling, Pat Cadigan, Walter Jon Williams that had a heavy influence.

    They coined many of the terms used today, cyber, net, matrix, and even "predicted" a lot of things before they came to pass(a worldwide internet, rise of global corporation power, urbanization, etc). They even spun off their own genre of Hollywood television B-class shows and their share of movies.

    If you've ever heard the word Cyberpunk, these are some of the authors that spawned the genre.

  136. Brunner's Stand On Zanzibar by arasinen · · Score: 1

    Stand On Zanzibar is a treasure-trove for future technology. While some parts of it are somewhat outdated (eg. there are only few computers), the rest describes inventions that I have not met elsewhere in literature. And it's not limited to technology either; the environment of "Zanzibar" is easily one of the most intriguing I've ever met in a sci-fi novel.

    In 1968 Brunner presented Viagra (called 'stiffeners'), and in 1975 he foresaw the Internet (The Shockwave Rider). He seems like a sure bet for the reading list with Stand on Zanzibar, perhaps with The Shockwave Rider too.

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    1. Re:Brunner's Stand On Zanzibar by JudasBlue · · Score: 1

      Great call. Brunner's work is often overlooked, and was a strong influence on Gibson's stuff, which obviously has influenced at least our terminology about technology.

      Gibson even went so far as to reuse lines from Brunner's work in his own, to give homage.

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    2. Re:Brunner's Stand On Zanzibar by Audent · · Score: 1

      Thank crap for that ... my connection was down and I couldn't post John Brunner! John Brunner! like I wanted.
      Every so often I get out my (battered) copy of Shockwave Rider and marvel at how accurate it is - issues of privacy (or lack of) in an age where we as a people are stronger because of technology but are poorer as individuals because of its pseudo-omnipotent power of observation. Astonishing insight coming from the mid 70s.
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      "First came the leg race, then came the arms race, next comes the brain race and if we survive that finally we'll have the human race".

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  137. Neuromancer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look beyond just the technology Gibson guessed at. Look specifically to the sociological impact Gibson foresaw. Study the background characters and their attitudes towards technology. For example, look at Interpol's role in the book. They enforce a treaty concerning AI. Look at TA's ability to disassociate themselves from humanity. Look at the gangs. It is this kind of depth in the background and humanity's reaction to technology that really sets this book apart.

  138. Neuromancer by Relic+of+the+Future · · Score: 3

    Neuromancer had the first use many now-cutting edge techs. Reading it now, it sounds _so_ incredibly cliched... until you remember that they weren't cliches until after this book was written.

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  139. personal computer not predicted by iguana · · Score: 1

    I remember reading an inverview circa 1980's with Isaac Asimov where he was talking about science fiction writers not predicting the rise of the personal computer. All the old sci-fi I've read (a lot) always had massive (some planet-sized) computers that were access through some sort of terminal device, hand-held (like Star Trek) or otherwise such as the ear-based terminals (?) in _Ender's Game_.

    Would be interesting if someone knew of a pre-1970 sci-fi reference to the personal computer.

  140. Greg Bear - Blood Music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bear coined the term "Nanotech" in this book I believe, as well as suggesting several uses for such technology, Blood Music was published in 1984, Also Queen of Angels and "/" have some interesting bits about "insect-mind" computing. Any of Bear's books are good reads with alot of hard science thrown in and a really good detail for current trends in science with a projection of where those trends may go in the future.

  141. Still happening... by SaturnTim · · Score: 1


    I recall reading that Nasa approached the writer for Babylon 5 about using his starfury (small fighter craft) design in the future, probably as a maintence vehicle for the space station.

    If memory serves, he said yes, as long as they keep his name for it...

    Sorry, I just looked around, but I couldn't find a link.

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  142. A good reference to help build a reading list by tektor · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here's a suggestion from a Ph.D. candidate in History of Science at Harvard (also my wife 8-):

    "
    ...tell him to contact Mark Adams at Penn - he
    has taught a course on science fiction for the last 30 years, and just gave
    a talk at HSS on 2001: A Space Odyssey. Here is a link about him.
    "

  143. Well, it's not always a linear progression... by doonesbury · · Score: 2

    I mean, even here, you can see people talking about inventions named for things/people in science fiction. Inventors & techies read SF. And technologies that inventors & techies make are usually the foundation for science fiction writers' ideas on how future technologies work. It's more of a self-feeding cycle - one person creates an idea based on a thing, another creates a thing based on the idea based on the thing.

    Of course, that Connections marathon I went through might also be affecting me.

    doones

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  144. Trekkies by lys1123 · · Score: 1

    Check out the movie Trekkies. It is a movie about the fans of Star Trek. There is a section in the movie that talks about things people have actually made from the series including the robot from "The Changeling" and Capt. Pike's Life Support chair from "The Menagerie".

    While this may not be mainstream science, it would definitely make for an interesting anecdote for the class.

  145. The mini-skirt... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Flash Gordon's fiancee (I guess her name was Dale Arden) used mini-skirts way before they appeared in the real world. Now, that may not be very scientific, but it's what I call a real contribution...

  146. Scientology by coyote-san · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you don't mind a bit of controversy, to put it mildly, you should include dianetics/Scientology.

    Were Lafayette Ron Howard and Analog's Editor (Joseph?) Campbell pulling everyone's legs with a fake science and fake religion? Was it just a tax scam? Or was it a legitimate effort that went horribly wrong?

    This isn't just an idle question - Scientologists have shut down web sites, even seized computer hardware and essentially destroyed it while the Federal courts did nothing, because they published religious "trade secrets" about the evil god Unix. I mean Xinu. I mean Xenu. (Hmm, makes you think....) They have flooded newsgroups with bogus posts to make it hard to find the on-topic posts. They have bought the top 40-odd places on search engines that provide "sponsored links," to make it hard for the casual browser to find critical sites. They have created "safe harbor" web browsers that protect their members from "objectionable" material.

    You don't have to agree with my opinion of Scientologists to see how they're linked to many of the most controversial issues facing us on the 'net. And it all started with a science fiction writer and a magazine editor discussing psychology based on "science," not Freud.

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    1. Re:Scientology by nate1138 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, I think you mean L. Ron Hubbard, not Howard, but it's close enough. For more information, check www.xenu.net (operation clambake).

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    2. Re:Scientology by markmoss · · Score: 2

      Jerry Pournelle (www.jerrypournelle.com, byte.com) knew L. Ron Hubbard in the 1950's. Dianetics was an alternate form of psychology. At that time psychology was about as scientific as 18th century medicine (think bleeding for everything), and according to Jerry dianetics was possibly better and certainly no worse than the accepted forms. (At least it didn't have Freud's own deep neuroses as a foundation.) But the medical establishment reacted very negatively to the competition of dianetics and were well on their way to getting it shut down. By re-casting it as a religion called "scientology", laws against practicing medicine without a witch-doctor license didn't apply.

      Scientology's cultish history since then has been rather at odds with such an origin. It seems to be run by people who take Hubbard's science-fictional genesis story very seriously...

    3. Re:Scientology by coyote-san · · Score: 2

      You're right, I was so focused on getting his first name down (which seems to annoy the Scientologists for some odd reason) that my fingers were clearly on autopilot later.

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    4. Re:Scientology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, my mistake, I was thinking John Norman who gave us a blueprint for to truly utopian society!

    5. Re:Scientology by blair1q · · Score: 2


      And it's John Campbell.

      Amazing Stories was Hugo Gernsback, in case anyone's just wondering.

      --Blair

    6. Re:Scientology by coyote-san · · Score: 2

      Thanks, I couldn't get Joseph Campbell out of my head after discussing with a friend just how much "Phantom Menace" sucked. That's very sad, my copy of "Hero with a Thousand Faces" even has Luke Skywalker on its cover.

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    7. Re:Scientology by JimPooley · · Score: 2

      But what would a cult founded by Ron Howard actually be like?

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  147. The Three Laws of Robotics by Mu*puppy · · Score: 1
    Wether or not Asimov completely developed the Three Laws of Robotics on his own, he certainly fleshed them out through his numerous 'robot stories'.

    After all, it's one thing to come up with an 'arbitrary set of rules' for robot behavior; while it's quite another to then go and probe all the paradoxes and pretty much attempt to 'stress test' the ins and outs of said rules.

    I'm certainly not involved in robotics or the development of AI myself, but I don't imagine there would be many researchers in those fields who would say the Three Laws have not affected 'professional thinking' in those fields, wether positively or negatively.

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  148. Neuromancer by William Gibson by gleam_mn · · Score: 1

    Similar to Snow Crash but written earlier (1984?). Deals with issuse like AI, Cybernetics, and Hacking as a government weapon.

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  149. "The Dreams our Stuff is Made of" Thomas M. Disch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The Dreams our Stuff is Made of: How Science Fiction Conquered the World" by Thomas M. Disch is probably exactly the kind of literary critisism that the poster is looking for. I did a similar independent study course, and I would consider this book *required* reading.

    hardcover
    http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.a sp ?theisbn=0684824051&vm=

    soft
    http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.a sp ?theisbn=0684859785&vm=

  150. Keith Laumer: "Age of the Pussyfoot" by Weasel+Boy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Man wakes up in the future, and finds that his life savings have grown to $500,000. He thinks he's rich; everyone else thinks he's quaint. Everyone is tied to a mobile data communication device, whose rental and service fees are ruinous. People expect to be paid for everything they do (they have to be, to afford those fees). Anyone not in the government's database is a non-person, unable to receive services or protection from the state.

  151. Talking Cars!!! by TopShelf · · Score: 2

    From KITT to GM's On-Star service, who'da thunk that Knight Rider was so visionary???

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  152. DNA computers - Greg Bear by justrob · · Score: 1
    A few weeks ago I saw an article on /. about a DNA computer.

    Greg Bear's 'Blood Music', a short story and later a novel, is about computers made from DNA.

  153. Re:Arthur C Clarke etc. by discreet+logic* · · Score: 1

    So which prat came up with Windows then? And where do they live?

    Anyway, this is a cagey subject. Take Clarke, the guy had a million ideas, and somethings bound to end up being useful. It's like saying Nostrodamus predicted something, well maybe if you make that many predictions something comes true. Also maybe it's like saying imagine a future where people have *smaller technology*. Hmmm, lot of thought there.

    Don't get me wrong I think some of Clarke et al's work is visionary, and certainly some of it makes for incredible reading. But as for authors or writers who changed or influenced the world we live in? I think maybe you're not looking in the right place.

    discreet*

  154. Gibson's Cyberspace by jamesmartinluther · · Score: 2, Informative

    I would say that the William Gibson's "Neuromancer" and its description of cyberspace had the biggest effect on the development of the culture of the internet as well as many conventions and actual inventions.

    Although this book is arguably more the chicken than the egg, this is where the term cyberspace was coined and where many command line conventions were translated into a three dimensional internet. He described a "consentual hallucination" of end users interacting with AI agents, servers, and viruses in a powerful and haunting way. Many a dollar and many lines of code have been plunged into attempts to make a world that even comes close to Gibson's cyberspace.

    "Neuromancer" is what got a lot of people interested in "cyberspace" engineering, including myself.

  155. Re:Palm Pilot vs The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Gal by Iamthefallen · · Score: 1

    I think Adams also quite accurately describes the average constantly-troubled-but-still-smarter-than-the-res t-geek:

    Marvin, can you pick up that piece of paper?
    Can I pick up that piece of paper! Here I am, brain the size of a planet and they ask me to ..."

    "Yeah, yeah," sympathized Zaphod hardly at all.

    "But I'm quite used to being humiliated," droned Marvin, "I can even go and stick my head in a bucket of water if you like. Would you like me to go and stick my head in a bucket of water? I've got one ready. Wait a minute."

    Now, replace Zaphod with Mr.Marketing or Mr.TheInterNetIsBrokenBoss...

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  156. Expanded Universe - Heinlein by lww · · Score: 1

    This book is a collection of some of his finest "prophetic" shorts. It also contains several essays on his future predicitons, including revisiting several of his older ones to see how he feels he did.

    Solution Unsatisfactory is one the standout stories that comes to mind from the book. I'm at work, so I don't have it handy.

    He also had some very interesting perspectives on the old Soviet Union based on his trips there with his wife.

    Geez, I really miss him. And Zelazny. Think I'll read some of my old favorites of theirs over the holiday, no matter how much it cuts into Civ3.

  157. Enterprise Holodeck! by fireboy1919 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The holodeck color scheme used on the "Enterprise" (black with yellow lines) is used by Nasa as the background for vector mapping when information is not known or to convey the axes. The engineers specifically requested it.

    Its a small, but notable influence.

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  158. SpaceGUARD by Verteiron · · Score: 2

    Here's an interesting one (Disclaimer: It's been a while since I've read either of these books, so some of the specifics may not be 100% accurate). In Arthur C. Clarke's "Rendevous with Rama" he creates a fictional program called SpaceGUARD, the purpose being to keep an eye out for earth-impacting asteroids. Some time after the release of the book, NASA and others borrowed the name for a real network of telescopes and such being used for the same purpose, along with a report entitled "The SpaceGuard Survey".

    And, to complete the circle... In his (much) more recent novel, "The Hammer of God", the real SpaceGUARD plays a role in discovering Kali, the earth-impacting comet-remnant. The amusing bit is that he refers to SpaceGUARD as "having taken its name from an obscure 20th century novel".. namely, his own!

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  159. Correct link by justrob · · Score: 1
    Oops, here is the relevant /. article:

    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/21/208200 &mode=thread

  160. Arthur C clarke, and Michael Crichton by vikool · · Score: 1

    Arthur' Clarke's space oddesey's have been more than a handbook for most the inventions/gadgets of the present century. The 86 yr old authour presently living in colombo, sri lanka, still continues to write to predict many more inventions of the future. he is considered by many as the nostradamus of our times. Michael Crichton, a pure fiction writer, who has a considerable part of sci-fi area, has definetaly had a impact on many gadgets that we use now

  161. This is utter crap! by joshamania · · Score: 1, Troll

    I wish I had seen this story earlier and posted so that more of you good readers could hear my most vocal opinion on this topic. I cannot stand it when people think that some guy is sitting in a lab at Motorola thinking, "Okay, how do we make Captain Kirk's communicator?".

    This whole idea is complete bullshit. Just because some writers come up with some nifty ideas doesn't mean that they are in any-way-shape-or-form responsible for the development of such technology. Even if the Star Trek communicator (in the original) looked differently, we would still have Motorola flip phones, because it is a good way of making the design more compact.

    SCIENCE FICTION WRITERS ARE JUST THAT! THEY ARE NOT INNOVATORS (unless you count Clarke...)

    1. Re:This is utter crap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interestingly enough (even though I agree with must of your post), Motorola's cell phone StarTac has this name and it's appearance derived from the communicators from Star Trek...

    2. Re:This is utter crap! by bhsurfer · · Score: 1
      I disagree. Here's a link to Rudy Rucker's website. He wrote a cool (out of print) book called Spacetime Doughnuts that had, among other things, a bit about sockets in your head that you plugged into at night - the same sort of idea as the "Linking Hardware To Wetware" thing that ran today.

      He also helped author 3 Autodesk products, taught mathematics and computer science at San Jose State University and wrote a framework for video game development.

      True, some writers only write, but others have farther-reaching influence [Aasimov and Carl Sagan come to mind], and at any rate coming up with a concept is the first step in innovation.

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    3. Re:This is utter crap! by joshamania · · Score: 2

      Yes, but you take away Star Trek, and you still have the phone.

    4. Re:This is utter crap! by joshamania · · Score: 2

      Aye, but Asimov and Sagan were scientists before were writers (and I don't mean in a temporal manner).

      Scientific innovation has progressed way beyond Verne thinking of an "atomic" powered submarine. Even still, nuclear submarines would still exist without 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. Gene Roddenbury will not be responsible for someone coming up with faster than light technology.

      Writing a good novel and doing scientific research are so completely separated, I don't even know how whoever posted this "story" can justify posting it.

      Again, science fiction writers write "science fiction". Scientists do science. Learn to separate the two, and stop insulting the scientists and engineers in the world by claiming that their ideas exist only because someone put pen to paper to write a novel.

  162. WARNING! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The parent post is an insidous TROLL.

    The author wants to hoodwink you into believing that we don't need to wage holy war against heathen Arabs in order to ensure our access to precious oil. He probably also has some wacko libertarian scheme that he'll claim will make everybody richer than Bill Gates, and that you dont have to be a wage slave. Next, he'll be raving about flying cars and moon cities.

    Don't listen to him, he's obviously deranged.

  163. William Gibson and the future that wasn't by TurtleBlue · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Neuromancer was definitely his crowning achievement, and tech lingo will forever be indebted to him.

    However, one of his short stories you might find really fascinating, in that he illustrates the opposite of what you are asking. In his collection of short stories Burning Chrome he has a story named "The Gernsback Continuum" where he describes visions of the future that never quite came to pass... but what if they did? Things like flying cars from the 50's and huge single airwings with 100's of propellers. Think about 20's gothic architecture and those early visions of going to the moon. It would be a nice counterpoint in your work to what were "probable" visions of the future versus what was in the imagined future.

    Burning Chrome is also a good basis, because little works like "Johnny Mnemonic" and "Fragments of a Hologram Rose" show him developing the ideas that later became the astounding Neuromancer.

    TurtleBlue

    ps - 62-36, nice - I was there.

    1. Re:William Gibson and the future that wasn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't let them immantize the Gernsback Continuum!

    2. Re:William Gibson and the future that wasn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GO BUFFALOS!!! I tried to get tickets to the game, but living in Vegas makes it hard to make it up to Boulder. Time to get revenge in Texas.Rumor has it that the Buffs might not be ready in time for Texas because there have been reports that Colorado was still scoring on Nebraska well into Sunday night.

      CmdrPinkTaco - preserving karma for the whores.

  164. Another Heinlein: Answering Machine by sprboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In "Between Planets" answering machines are presented...and also used for screening phone calls.

  165. Written by F.P. by justrob · · Score: 1

    That was written by Frederik Pohl.

  166. US "Star Wars" program created by SF authors by coyote-san · · Score: 2

    The US "Star Wars" program was supposedly thought up by a panel of "hard" SF authors asked to come up with ways to fight the USSR.

    Many people (myself included) think it's still SF, and will remain so for a very long time. It's the difference between the "big picture" thinker who comes up with a concept, and the "detailed" thinker who has to actually implement it. In concept, Star Wars is really neat. In practice, it's far too easy to introduce decoys, and by the time you can handle one decoyed MIRV your enemy has smuggled 100 warheads into the country by other means.

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    1. Re:US "Star Wars" program created by SF authors by Magneto48 · · Score: 1

      I would agree with that assertion. On a not-quite-related note, I have noted that there is a sort of cross-pollination between science-fact and science-fiction. For example, the novel Contact was written by noted astronomer Carl Sagan. Sagan's novel was heavily influenced by his own research. Thus, we see real-world science influencing science fiction. Forgive me for stating the blatantly obvious.

  167. "Red Alert" sound from Star Trek by IdocsMiko · · Score: 1
    According to one of the Star Trek history books I've read the famous Red Alert klaxon used on Star Trek was effective enough that it was adapted by the U.S. Military for some purposes. The producers of Star Trek received a request from an officer for a tape of the sound and the klaxon was ultimately incorporated it into use.

    Of course, this info is from a rah-rah fan book, so take with the appropriate NaCL.

  168. Today on CNN by Telastyn · · Score: 1
  169. Yes, Sort of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Ray Bardbury's Fahrenheit 451 he describes Guy Montag's wife a constantly having small sea-shell devices in her ears that allowed her to listen to public broadcasts. This reminded me of the ear-bud headphones that have been around for some time now (but ever more stylish and popular now).

    On a side note these portions of the book also remind me of today's media addicts. Those people who become entranced with CNN, MSNBC, and other current events programming and watch tv in a zombie-like state for days on end.

  170. Nights Dawn trillogy by ^DA · · Score: 1

    The nights dawn trillogy describes something called "nanonics" witch is electronics that you controll with your brain (implants such as: boosted muscles, hi-res/infrared eye-sight, targeting systems for soldiers, AV storage for journalists, communication and so on).

    It is also highly integrated into the urban environment. Pretty nifty. Think of it as bluetooth on steroids.

    1. Re:Nights Dawn trillogy by kcbaltz · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the Kinetic Harpoons. I just saw a story recently where the US Army was considering using space-deployed munitions without explosives because the sheer kinetic energy at impact would be equivalent to an atomic bomb.

  171. Palm Pilot in "2001" by Lemur+catta · · Score: 1

    If you look carefully at some of the original poster art for the movie "2001: A Space Odyssey", you'll see that one of the astronauts working on the moon is consulting what appears to be an oversized Palm Pilot (about the size of A4 paper). It has a large screen with a row of buttons along the bottom, in the exact same proportions as current Palms.

    I haven't been able to find any graphics on the web that show it, but you can see it clearly on the back cover of the soundtrack album.

  172. Gibson's "Cyberspace", ST, Brave New World. by Mr.+Slurpee · · Score: 2, Interesting

    well, the first thing that definitely comes to mind is william gibson. not that we're scampering about information networks with electrode tiaras and viewing everything as three-dimensional constructs piped into our optic nerves, but that we probably will be in the next couple decades. of course, i suppose this isn't about what will be but what already is, in which case gibson will have had more of an impact on language with the word "cyberspace." read "neuromancer" (which i'm sure you have already, so read it again) or anything else in the cyberspace series; i feel that gibson has a good talent for thinking about natural extensions of modern technology (superconductiong quantum interference devices, anyone?). he also wrote about things like cybercrime, implants, and genetically designed "vat-grown" food and replacement body parts. read "burning chrome" (again) as well - his collection of short stories has some gems in it, too.

    another is, of course, star trek - quintessential pop sci-fi. the past ten or so years has seen a new sector of the personal electronics market grow around watches-that-are-more-than-a-watch. barometers (and thus altimiters), compases, gps, temperature, depth gauges etc. all being packaged in something relatively tiny and man-portable - might not look like a tricorder but definitely follows it by providing at-hand sensory readings. ST: TNG's PADDs (those nifty portable flatscreen display devices, for the uninitiated) have surely affected the design of today's PDAs.

    (alduos huxley's "brave new world" would be great for the class. genetic modification, a culture placated by drugs, cloning, and the moral ramifications thereof.)

    i can think of a few other current technologies that seem to have come from sci-fi (although i couldn't provide you with a bibliography). stun guns/tasers and other nonlethal weapons (glue guns, net guns, emp, etc.), energy weapons (lasers, railguns, yadda yadda), and telemedicine (anne mccafferey's "the ship who searched", perhaps?).

    good luck, and let us know how it went at the end of the semester!

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  173. Giant's Star by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a little known gem of a series by james p hogan. 4 books based in the near future. 100% hard core sci fi. grab the first 3 of the 4 and be amazed! i have yet to read the 4th so i am not sure what it is like.

    seems like everything hogan wrote was plausible even with the technology of today. he did giant's star in the 70's i think.

  174. 2000AD - riot foam by koogydelbbog · · Score: 1

    Some years ago now i was reading 2000AD, a british comic, and Judge Dredd was there using riot foam as a non-lethal way to control crowds

    (a good description is here:
    http://www.2000ad.nu/linksproject/index.php3?zon e= thrill&page=dredduni)

    and then, 10 or so years after i'd first read about it, the 'invention' of the exact same thing was all over the news.

    (do a google search using "non-lethal weapons sticky foam")

    http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/weap on s990510.html (picture here)

    cheers
    andy

  175. Dick Tracy wristwatch TV by lars-o-matic · · Score: 1

    In the old comic strip, Dick Tracy's 2-way communicator predated reality -- if not already available, surely wristwatch-sized 2-way video will be soon. related: Saturday slashdot article: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/24/034624 0&mode=thread

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  176. Asimov, Verne by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 3, Insightful
    OH WELL

    I would say that Isaac Asimov's "robot" series of books probably had the biggest effect on both fiction AND science. Although the robots in existance today are nothing like the robots in his novels, the inspiration and the name "robot" came from him. Asimov's robots were a lot like Star Trek's character Data. They looked human, had positronic brains (dreamed up by Asimov, of course), and could think and act on their own. Most of our robots today are nothing like that. They are controlled by computers, which are programmed by humans. Robots are designed for specific purposes and carry out only that purpose. For example, a six axis robotic arm might be installed in an automotive assembly line and programmed to perform the same exact action thousands, tens of thousands (or even vastly more) times. The idea, however, stems from Asimov's dream of machines that could perform actions for humans.

    Another great writer, Jules Verne, wrote science fiction novels that eventually became science fact. From the submarine in 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, to the rocket in From the Earth to the Moon, to the trip Around the World in 80 Days, Jules Verne came up with some truly incredible ideas that soon became very credible indeed.

    There are many others. I'm too busy to list them all, or I'd take the same kind of course. OH WELL

    1. Re:Asimov, Verne by TGK · · Score: 2

      Asimov is generaly credited with the word Robotics, not Robot. Just FYI.

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    2. Re:Asimov, Verne by bodland · · Score: 1

      Caves of Steel
      Robots of Dawn
      Robots and Empire
      I Robot


      In Asimov's robot books, besides the obvious robots, also bring up the sociological effects of a highly "wired" society. Long life spans result in creative stagnation, over use of robots create isolation and "viewing" becomes the main mode of communication. Individuals are more comfortable viewing each other than being face to face. Goverment uses technology to catagorize and control population.

      As technology advances in our society it is gravely important to recognize and discuss the socialogical ramafications of implementing the technology on our culture. Asimov, I feel, was one of the first to provide this vision. At least that I read anyway.

    3. Re:Asimov, Verne by andymac · · Score: 1
      Re: robot series from Asimov. One of the things Asimov constantly wrote/harped on about in his robot stories was the 3 fundamental laws of robotics:
      1. A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
      2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
      3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

      The 0th law was added later, being that: A robot may not injure humanity or, through inaction, allow humanity to come to harm. Anyways, I believe that his laws of robotics have been widely adapted and followed by robotics and AI folk around the globe... Could start here: http://www.anu.edu.au/people/Roger.Clarke/SOS/Asim ov.html or here http://www.frc.ri.cmu.edu/robotics-faq/1.html

      As well, Asimov is widely credited with being the first to coin the term "robotics".
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    4. Re:Asimov, Verne by nhavar · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The term robot actually comes from a 1920's play by Karel Capek called "RUR, Rossum's Universal Robots" and is a derivitive of the Slavic word for "work". Therefore Asimov simply popularized the term. Asimov would have been about 3 when the phrase Robot was first used and 7 I believe when 'Metropolis' came to the screen. So these may have had more of an influence on his writing than anything else.

      People keep brining up Jules Verne and the Nautilus but debunking the 'nuclear' aspect because the engine burned salt. What people fail to mention is the process it used to 'burn' the salt could it have been a nuclear reaction. Additionally noone mentions that the ship gets the salt from the surrounding water through either some desalinization process (too long) or a shorter electrochemical process like a catalytic converter. Parrallels to these processes would be the ramjet/scramjet that collects it's fuel from the surrounding atmosphere and current fuel cell and hybrid engines that are designed to convert simple water into base elements for consumption.

      There also has been no mention of the "fulgurator" which holds more than a passing resemblance to a nuclear missile/atom bomb.



      "Water is the coal of the future. The energy of tomorrow is water broken down into hydrogen and oxygen using electricity. These elements will secure the earth's power supply for an indefinite period."
      Jules Verne -- 1874



      Please anyone correct me if I'm wrong on any of these points

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    5. Re:Asimov, Verne by Dr.+Smeegee · · Score: 1

      Actually Capek came up with the name "Robot". It is a play on the czech word for "slave".

    6. Re:Asimov, Verne by Anzya · · Score: 1

      Another point he discuss in those books are the population decline that the most powerfull planets suffer from. This is something that you can see in many countries in Europe. For example both Italy and Sweden has a negativ birthrate. Swedens population only grows because of refurgees.

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    7. Re:Asimov, Verne by Xpilot · · Score: 2

      I believe what the original poster meant was that the term "robotics" was coined by Asimov, meaning "study of robots".

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  177. Sheesh, Gibson by darial · · Score: 2

    Why is there no refrence to William Gibson's Neuromancer above +2? That book defined the ideas of cyberspace so well that it reads just as well after the computer revolution as before. In about '98 when I saw the first talking heads DHTML/SGML site, I had an erie feeling I'd been there before.

    I have confidence it will be considered up there with Verne in terms of prophetic nature.

  178. Stranger in a Strange Land by Janthkin · · Score: 2

    Heinlein introduced the waterbed before it was available. In fact, his work put the idea in the public domain, and prevented the first company making one from getting a patent on the idea. :)

  179. Interesting idea for a class, but wrong? by JWhitlock · · Score: 2
    When science fiction writers introduce technology that doesn't exist, either they are guessing (some Jules Verne predicitions), projecting current technology (Stephenson's e-books), or just making something up as a plot device or to bypass current technological limitations (Star Trek's transporter). Even though these things are interesting, they have a limited impact on the path of future technological inventions.

    Personally, I think science fiction is at its best when it predicts the effect of technology on society rather than predicts the technology. 1984 is such a great novel not because it got scientists and engineers thinking about how surveilance technology would work. 1984 is great because it got everyone thinking about the ramifications of surveilance technology. With this novel, everyone has a common understanding of how far a government could go with pervasive surveilance of citizens, and we can argue new technology based on thise common understanding. Without it, privacy advocates would seem (even more) crazy to the common citizen.

    Because technology is improving at exponential rates, we don't often have time to think about the ramifications of technology until we are using it. Good predictive science fiction gives us a little time beforehand, to think and prepare.

    Personally, I'm not interested in this historical project of finding which guesses were right, or Tech TV style observations of "Gee Whiz, isn't this tech great!" I'm more interested with the dialog about future trends, and more of our society thinking about the future.

    On a side note, it seems that predictive science fiction is drawing back its horizons more and more. It seems good predictive science fiction is concerned with the next few years, maybe a few generations at most, while hundreds to thousands of years in the future is the domain of fantastical science fiction and lite sci-fi shows. Is this because all the predictive science fiction writers are having a hard time thinking past the singularity?

  180. Invention of the countdown by row314 · · Score: 1

    This may be outside the range you're looking for, but in the "life imitating art" dept., there's Fritz Lang's 1928 movie "Woman in the Moon" which gave us the countdown.

  181. Predict != Influence by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1

    Predict != Influence

  182. Nice Post by scotpurl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But, I'll stick (stubbornly) by my original comments. The author thinks of what technology can do, and the engineer thinks of what to do with technology. A bit circular, and I'm feeling chatty....

    The author throws the rules out the window, and does some What-If-ing.

    The engineer, trained and bound by rules, but reporting to the demands of the Manager (who has read too much SciFi, and thus believes nothing is impossible), tries to find what technology can perform the task.

    More simply, the author goes from task backward to technology, and the engineer goes from technology forward to task. In your post, they have the techology, and want to know what else to do with it. They are not trying to make SciFi come true. (am I nitpicking, here?)

    I do think we need more dreamer-engineers, but the cirriculum and managers tend to conspire and weed them out.

    1. Re:Nice Post by anti-drew · · Score: 1

      The engineer, trained and bound by rules, but reporting to the demands of the Manager (who has read too much SciFi, and thus believes nothing is impossible), tries to find what technology can perform the task.

      That's a very pessimistic view, in which the engineer has no creativity, and the manager knows nothing about engineering. In well-formed teams this should not be the case.

      I don't know about your job, but I'm tech lead for my project and I'm allowed to come up with anything I think is cool and do it, and my boss is a former engineer with a thorough grounding in what we're doing.

      It is true that the engineer goes from technology forward, and is generally constrained by the bounds of possiblity (at least, he/she'd better be!).

      But there's an awful lot which we can do today which is possible but not yet practical - for example, a house which turns its lights on and off according to whether people are in the room or not. This is eminently possible with current technology, but not yet practical for the average consumer.

      There are huge numbers of things which are possible today with just a little time and investment. The hard part is sifting out what's useful and - let's be real - potentially profitable from the huge numbers of possible creations. Using existing technology, I could make a (rather expensive) wall which changes color from red to blue during the day, but what's the point?

      One important thing that science fiction does is that it gives us ideas for where to go next.
    2. Re:Nice Post by santeri · · Score: 1
      But there's an awful lot which we can do today which is possible but not yet practical - for example, a house which turns its lights on and off according to whether people are in the room or not. This is eminently possible with current technology, but not yet practical for the average consumer.

      Bad example. Trivially available, at least where I live (in the backwoods of Scandinavia).

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    3. Re:Nice Post by scotpurl · · Score: 2

      Well, pessimistic, yeah, but I meant that the engineer is not allowed to use creativity. Take the 1983 Oldsmobile Cutlass Sierra as an example. You have to loosen the distributor bolt with the car on the ground, then place it overhead on a hoist, then remove the distributor from beneath the car when you want to replace the cap and rotor. Sometimes you can change the oil filter without removing the right front wheel, and sometimes not (it depends upon how flexible you are).

      The car contains a lot of economic compromises. It reeks of management decisions, and of engineers not being allowed to do the right thing. As does most modern software.

      As for what I do, mostly coding. My first management was "do whatever is cool, or holds promise." My next management was, "do whatever holds promise." My current management is, "don't do it." So I'm probably venting here, and not liking being reined in.

      I fully understand the difference between creativity and practicality. However, I think it's the engineers who have allowed authors to dream, because fiction is as old as communication, but Science Fiction writers didn't think of these flights of fancy until engineers showed what imagination could do.

  183. Anything by Jules Verne by espilce · · Score: 1

    Of course, his novels were written before World War II, but his books have been the inspiration for many scientific advances. One example that comes to mind is 20,000 Leagues under the sea, which describes in detail a nuclear powered submarine long before submarines or nuclear fission was ever used. In fact, if I recall correctly, the first U.S. submarine was named the Nautilus in tribute to Captain Nemo's ship.

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  184. Szilard Got Atomic Bomb Idea from H.G. Wells by Mad+Bad+Rabbit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In 1932, physicist Leo Szilard read an H.G. Wells novel, The World Set Free (1914) which described an imaginary world-war using atomic weapons. According to Szilard, this novel was responsible for his interest in in nuclear physics (despite Lord Rutherford's proclamation that atomic power was impossible). A year later, he realized how to set up a fission chain reaction and create atomic power.

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  185. Causality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    From reading prior posts, I think people are taking the causality of sci-fi and invention a bit too literally. I don't think the idea is that some inventor/engineer says "Gee, this communicator thing on Star Trek looks really neat. I think I'll invent one!" Obviously, that's ludicrous. I think the point is that sci-fi authors may have introduced a general gestalt into either the mainstream or scientific community from which real ideas drew influence.

    There is, of course, a chicken-and-the-egg situation here. Did Star Trek introduce the idea of a communicator, or did it simply formalize an idea that was already floating around in sci-fi circles?

  186. videophone, flying car, robot by headwick · · Score: 1

    George Jetson had items like a videophone, flying car, and a robot.

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  187. let's not overlook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that Leonardo da Vinci clearly describes the &lt\B&gt tag in one of his notebooks. I think it was in the one Bill Gates bought.

  188. A Clockwork Orange by JThaddeus · · Score: 1

    How about "A Clockwork Orange" by Anthony Burgess. Using drugs to make a criminal adverse to violence--we see that now with moves to chemically "castrate" rapists and child molesters.

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  189. Frankenstein by bluesninja · · Score: 2

    It didn't really predict future technology, but is was/is certainly in the science fiction genre and is still, ~150 (?) years later, brought up in making arguments about genetic engineering, GM foods (FRANKENfoods!), and cloning, among other things.

    I think the value of science fiction is not in predicting or suggesting technology, it's in analyzing our reaction to potential technologies. It forces us to consider the impact of certain devices or knowledges before they are directly in our faces. In fact, SF is invaluable in serving this purpose. And Frankenstein is probably the most successful science fiction book ever in this regard.

    /bluesninja

  190. That's different plus two other examples by BillyGoatThree · · Score: 3, Interesting

    He *invented* waldoes. They are called that after Waldo, the main character in the story and the title of the story as well. Not exactly a prediction. And before anyone else says it, the same goes for waterbeds. Invented, not predicted (in Stranger). Also the "generation ship".

    However, I think it would be fair to say RAH predicted the Internet (he wasn't the only one and maybe not even the first, but so what). Check out the "public terminals" that have access to everything from lectures on science to live orchestral performances. These are throughout the "Future History" books, but especially so in Friday. It is interesting to note that revenue method Heinlein envisioned for this as well.

    Of course he may have predicted several things that have yet to come to pass. For instance, in Harsh Mistress he mentions (actually the plot hinges on this) warfare between the Moon and Earth as well as induction ring launches from both locations.

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    1. Re:That's different plus two other examples by TGK · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure about prior reference, but did RAH more or less invent CAD in "Door Into Summer?" Those drafting tables just seem like a concept sketch of a CAD program.

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    2. Re:That's different plus two other examples by Andrewkov · · Score: 2

      Where's Waldo? And what does this have to do with the topic? ;-)

    3. Re:That's different plus two other examples by jguthrie · · Score: 4, Informative
      Lois Bujold has said in public that Science Fiction is a reflection of the society that exists when the work is created, not a prediction of the future, and I believe her. It is, in my opinion, a fool's errand to talk about how one writer or another predicted something. Most of the time, an SF writer simply takes a currently existing invention and plays games with it. The other times, the writer talks about something he or she earnestly wants, but hasn't seen yet. Heinlein's waterbed is one of those sorts of things.

      For example, by the time Friday was released, in 1984, as I recall, publically available computer terminals were in existence, BBSes were how you got on-line (except for the fortunate few how knew about and had access to Usenet) and networked BBSes were about to be invented.

      My own personal favorite example of an SF prediction is in Bellamy's Looking Backward which, among other things, talked about how the broadcasting of music (live performances over telephone lines as neither audio recording nor radio had been invented or conceived of when the book was written) had become common. I also seem to recall that it had some bit in there about how that led to fewer people being able to play the piano, but that may be my subsequent experiences leaking over as it's been 20+ years since I read that book.

      However, it seems to me that the question is not about predictions in SF that come true, but about how SF has driven invention. If, as I say I believe above, SF is a reflection of the culture it's written in, then there can be no direct link. However, I also believe that invention is also a product of the culture it is in, so it is certainly fair to say that, if a work doesn't have a direct effect on invention, then it will necessarily reflect the environment in which the invention is made. Rarely is this made more clear than in "The Man Who Sold the Moon" where Delos D. Harriman talks about what it was like to grow up in the early part of the 20th century.

      Further, if one wishes to look at that aspect more closes, I think that one could do worse than looking at the work of Dr. Lienhard of the University of Houston (not his son, who is a professor at MIT) who has a 5-minute daily radio program (and book derived therein) called "The Engines of our Ingenuity" which discusses the whole process of invention and covers quite well the methods by which people derive inspiration. The URL to reach the radio show's transcripts is http://www.uh.edu/engines

    4. Re:That's different plus two other examples by danila · · Score: 1

      Lois Bujold has said in public that Science Fiction is a reflection of the society that exists when the work is created, not a prediction of the future, and I believe her.

      Sadly it is very much so... :-( Many people, including writers, beleive that it is not literature if it is not about people. And by people they mean present people. Take for example this Wired story.

      A robotic expert says: "Star Trek, especially, has been about the present, though it takes place in the future. Gene Rodenberry always tried to show current problems in a different light. It is difficult to build a show like that if all you are doing for an hour each week is showcasing nifty gadgets."

      This is stunningly stupid and shortsighted. What actual benefits are in using hi-tech gadgetry in a show (movie/book/game) about present people? There are none! The real reason for SF should be showing potential technologies/inventions and how they affect the Universe (not necessarily us humans). The ideas can be taken from author's imagination as well as from existing ideas/inventions. Our society desperately needs understanding of future possibilities. Despite Sony selling 100000+ AIBO's already, most people still do not realise the potential of robotics.

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    5. Re:That's different plus two other examples by wglass · · Score: 1

      Heinlein's a good example of how a Science Fiction writer can have a significant influence on naming a technology. Anyone remember Heinlein's novella "Waldo"? Waldo was a crippled mad inventor who could control huge mechanical arms remotely from his zero gravity hide-away. These days waldos are routinely used everywhere from nuclear power plans to unmanned underwater submarines.

      I suspect most of the influence of SF is on the names. "Cyberspace" is the most prominent example but there are plenty of others.

    6. Re:That's different plus two other examples by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In response to the parent and to Lois Bujold, it could be possibly debated that SF literature both reflects and predicts.

      Obviously, we can only tell the prediction by hindsight, but if a particular work inspired a movement towards the technology mentioned in that work then it relects the present and projects to the future.

      In other words, it does what all good art does (intentionally or not), it inspires.

  191. classic literature? by lophophore · · Score: 1
    How about the cloning of people in Brave New World by Aldous Huxley? That seems particularly cogent in light of recent headlines about human cloning. And then there is Orwell's 1984...

    Don't get me started...

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  192. Heinlein by Lazaru5 · · Score: 2

    Robert Heinlein has coined/foreshadowed many tech terms and acheivements. He coined the term "free fall" and, IIRC, was a NASA advisor as well.

    The best stuff (that applys to your research) would be the collection of Future History books. It's the early stuff, mostly juvenile, and not the adult (not _Adult_) novels that cover Lazarus Long, etc.

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  193. Wrong way around? by the+bluebrain · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Apart from incidentals (such as Jules Verne's pretty good estimate of the escape velocity of earth's gravitational field - about 11 kps) which I put off as coincidents, I see SF-RL links in two categories:

    SF -> RL:
    naming, e.g. "cyberspace", "robots", "cyborgs", "beaming", etc. etc.

    RL -> SF:
    (and this is one of the aspects of SF which facinates me) interpretations of the world. For example: Douglas Adams' Hitch-Hiker trilogy (heh...) contains todays lay-man's interpretations of modern physics, as concerns faster-than-light travel, time travel, computing, and so on. In general: An SF author is called upon to paint a picture of a world which is different from the one which is accepted in the author's day - and the interesting thing is to see just where the author's imagination doesn't flex, especially in "older" SF. This touches not only on science, but also on sociology, psychology etc. For instance: some 50s 60s SF is good solid stuff, but all spaceship's crew are scrubbed clean & in white uniforms, like they just came off an super-modern ocean-going ship, and the society is, by today's standards, sexist & racist to a hairraising degree.
    BTW: don't miss out on all the SF which is too litarary to be classified as SF, such as Hesse's "Das Glasperlenspiel", or Michel Houellebecq's "Les Particules Elementaires".

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  194. Asimov NeuralNets/Robots by Transient0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Asimov coined the term positron with his description of positronic nets, which were also a brilliant insight into the way in which neural nets and dynamical systems would develop.

    However, most of the posts i have seen have been along the lines of authors predicting things that ended up actually happening. The intent of the original post appeared to be more interested in science fiction actually AFFECTING the paths of science.

    In this regard, I would still point to Asimov. Asimov's three laws of robotics have become so embedded in our society, that some people don't even know that they originate in fiction. I can say it is reasonably certain that once we start to have stronger weak-AI devices(def'n; weak AI - systems made to imitate intelligence in order to achieve tasks. compare: strong AI - systems made to actually BE intelligent, to BE human) becoming extremely common and intereacting directly with people on a regular basis we will see either an industry standard, or more likely legislation, enforcing the hard-coding of something very similar to Asimov's laws.

    Also the [Gibson ---> modern internet] connection is good.

  195. Tightbeam comms by plsander · · Score: 1

    Clarke may not have predicted tightbeam, but Heinlein did mention it in a number of his stories - The Moon is a Harsh Mistress leaps to mind.

    Also had compression of the data being sent to reduce transmit time...

  196. On Slashdot Yesterday by nihilogos · · Score: 2

    There was that story about grafting brain cells onto circuits or whatever it was. The first I ever heard of that was in William Gibson's Neuromancer.

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  197. Robotics! Projectors! by droopus · · Score: 1

    The word "robotics" comes from the short story "Runaround" (1942) by Isaac Asimov. Since there are actual businesses focusing on, and degrees in robotics, the Master deserves his props. He invented the Laws of Robotics too, but we're not in need of them as yet.

    But wait there's more!

    As any Foundation fan knows, the Prime Radiant was displayed in a way that we geeks know all too well, but didn't exist in even the most fertile minds of the forties, when Asimov described it: an overhead (or LCD) projector.

    The formulae of the Prime Radiant (which can be argued sounds suspiciously like today's stock market) were seemingly magically "projected upon the walls, covering every inch with small numbers and symbols." While Edison had invented a photographic projector earlier, Asimov's was clearly an "edit while displaying" educational tool, which is precisely why the overhead projector was invented: as an editable display tool. If I was his heir, I'd claim the patent. B)

    If I snoop through his books enough, I'll probably find Powerpoint as well. Hah.

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  198. Re:Palm Pilot vs The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Gal by dcigary · · Score: 2

    Douglas Adam's coolest invention, however, must be the elevators that can see into the future. You never have to press a button. It knows it needs to pick you up, and then knows where you're going. Brilliant!

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  199. Arthur C Clarke's Imperial Earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    internet and computer terminals with the functionality of modern computers in modern use

  200. Sources I recall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A few years back, I believe it was HBO that put on a mini-series about the Apollo space missions. In it, they made a big deal about the fact that Jules Vernes' _From the Earth to the Moon_ was one of the major motivating forces for many of the engineers in the project.

    I recently read a book about _2001: A Space Odyssey_, and how the predictions about AI in it have or have not come true by the year 2001. I recall a number of comments in there about people being driven by the portrayal of what AI can and should be capable of.

    I also recall an anecdote about the engineers at NASA making a heoric effort to have the first space shuttle named Enterprise, in honor of Roddenberry, though I don't recall the place I came across this tidbit.

    As a side note, you will have a fair amount of work ahead of you trying to sort out causality from prediction. Post hoc, ergo proptor hoc. Clearly, the engineers that named the space shuttle Enterprise were inspired by Roddenberry, but are wearable computers really inspired by Stephenson's Gargoyles?

  201. Overrating the futurism of science fiction by hyacinthus · · Score: 1

    Science fiction gets it wrong far, far more often than it gets it right. The pages of SF are full of statements which have either become ridiculously outmoded (futuristic computers with vacuum tubes, futuristic engineers using slide rules, &c.) or claims for the future which just never came true (that we'd have colonized the solar system by now, that we'd have flying cars, &c.)

    The plain fact of the matter is that the predictive value of SF just isn't there. SF writers don't make intelligent predictions; they take wild stabs in the dark, and their guesses are right probably about as often as a professional psychic's.

    One might claim that Clarke's and Kubrick's 2001, say, or Heinlein's _The Moon is a Harsh Mistress_, somehow "predict" the advent of artificial intelligences which can pass the Turing Test, in the characters of Hal and Mycroft. Nonsense. Hal and Mycroft are simply human characters with the serial numbers filed off; it took no insight into technology to write those characters, only wishful thinking that some day computers will act like people.

    A lot of science fiction tech stems from that sort of wishful thinking, the wistful hope that some day, a way can be found to contravene various inconvenient physical laws or technological barriers; hence SF has given us faster-than-light travel or communications, hand-held laser-like weapons capable of killing a man, shields, not to mention human colonies on just about every celestial body which might conceivably harbor us. Maybe, some day, there will be discovered ways to effect some of these things. But if they happen, they will happen at their own pace, in despite of the dreams of SF and not because of them. Science fiction writers since the early days of the genre have indulged the wistful hope that we'd be living on the Moon or Mars by now--look how influential _that_ dream has been!

    The best SF keeps the wild dreams of futuristic tech in the background and concentrates rather on character. That's why C. J. Cherryh's CYTEEN is my favorite SF novel; the one claim for the future which makes the plot possible--that we'll eventually be able to clone humans and imprint desired behavior upon them--is eminently plausible; for the rest, Cherryh dwells upon the struggles of the characters, not on wowing readers with visions of futuristic toys.

    hyacinthus.

  202. How 'bout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Brave New World by Aldous (sp?) Huxley?

  203. Pulp Science Fiction: Asimov and Analog by voxelman · · Score: 1

    Often science fiction writers are scientists that use the vision inspired by their research to write science fiction that goes where current technology and art can't. These writers are part of what is sometimes called the "Hard Science Fiction" school. Many stories from these writers are short so they never make it into book length publications but are captured in the Pulp Fiction magazines Asimov and Analog. These magazines also mix hard science articals with their fiction offerings providing an environment for cross pollination.

  204. Indeed... by Rob+Simpson · · Score: 1

    Good thing that never happened, eh? Now, then... "what is the square root of 529"? D'oh!

  205. The James Bond Cars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They served as inspiration for some new urban fighting vehicles from the US armed forces.

    One of the developers admitted it in an interview/article.

    Caltrops, oil, smokescreen etc.

  206. hugo gernsback by pigpen_ · · Score: 1
    In all the comments I have read so far, I have not seen a single mention of the father of science fiction - Hugo Gernsback, for whom the Hugo Awards are named. From his NY Times obit in 1967:
    In Ralph 124C 41+, a novel he wrote and serialized in 1911, Mr. Gernsback described what he and colleagues subsequently classified as radar, the direction finder, space travel, germicidal rays, micro-film, two-way television, night baseball, tape records, artificial silk and wool, stainless steel, magnesium as a structural material, and flourescent lighting. He also described the wireless transmission of power and electronic weather control, which are yet to be realized.
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    1. Re:hugo gernsback by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot infrared guided missles, and the highjacking ( read piracy )
      of international airliners ( before the Wright Brothers invented
      the airplane). Both of which have been realized.

      In case someone out there missed the meaning of the
      title -- read:

      Ralph one to foresee for one plus.

      Also Ralph 124C 41+ is easily the worst SF novel I
      have ever read. Good prediction is not always good
      literature. (It was re-printed in a paperback sometime
      in the 50's if memory serves.)

  207. the periscope by imbecible · · Score: 1

    i think that in 20000 leagues under the sea the idea of the periscope was first introduced

  208. US Robotics by Evil+Dr.+Go · · Score: 1

    I believe the founders of USR were big Asimov fans and named their company US Robotics just because no such company existed.

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  209. Treason by allism · · Score: 1

    Actually, considering recent developments in human cloning, I think Treason (or A Planet Called Treason, depending on how old your copy is) makes an interesting read. It doesn't deal directly with cloning, but some of the issues it brings up re: use of 'extra' body parts makes some fun food for thought.

  210. Don't forget "the sleeper wakes" by gonar · · Score: 2

    through the miracle of compound interest, a man in a long coma wakes to find he owns the world.

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    1. Re:Don't forget "the sleeper wakes" by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      > WIAFM - Dubya Is A Fucking Moron

      While freedom of speech is important in this country, you do realize your country is at war right now, with troops on the ground engaged in combat, don't you?

      And you sit here otherwised engaged in light hearted banter, and have this vicious .sig.

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    2. Re:Don't forget "the sleeper wakes" by gonar · · Score: 2

      fuck off. my sister's husband was on flight 11. my niece and nephew don't have a daddy anymore. my sister doesn't have a husband anymore. his parents don't have a son, my parents dont have a son in law.

      the very first words out of the dubya's mouth after the attacks were "WE WILL HAVE REVENGE!!". this from a man claiming to be a devout born again christian. I guess the whole "vengeance is mine sayeth the lord" business doesn't apply to him because he is george fuckin bush.

      so I say again:

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  211. Vernor Vinge "True Names" by masonsas · · Score: 1

    I'd certainly recommend reading "True Names" by Vernor Vinge -- a fine foreshadowing of the use of avatars in chat rooms, 3-D representations of such, and online interactions between people. A very early example of this sort of thinking and a fine book as well.

  212. You've been reading too much... by gaudior · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Scientific American, if you really believe:
    Nano tubes will change the world far more than any other creation of man.


    They are little more than lab curiosities, with no practical applications. The late 1980's gave us Cold Fusion, and the late 1990's gave us Bucky Balls and Nano-tubes. What will change the world, (and NOT for the better is the continual meddling in cloning and human genetics. The moral, ethical, legal, environmental, and biological problems are not being addressed by those who are doing the research. We are behaving like children with shiny, dangerous toys. One thing many Science Fiction writers have done over the years is examine these things, as they relate to technology.

    1. Re:You've been reading too much... by Happy+Monkey · · Score: 2

      We are behaving like children with shiny, dangerous toys.

      An apt analogy. Some will die, some will be injured and wiser, and some will take them apart and put them together in new and unexpected ways. Such is the way of life.

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  213. THX-1138 - obnoxious phone tech support by Animats · · Score: 4, Insightful

    George Lucas's first film, "THX-1138", introduced the concept of phone tech support based on obnoxious recorded messages. That was a very insightful film. Lucas later abandoned insight for popularity and became successful.

  214. A possible one for the future by kallisti · · Score: 2, Interesting
    In "Pirates of the Universe" by Terry Bisson there is a man who wants to spend time with a virtual reality girlfriend named Tiffany. The problem is that when he isn't in the virtual space, he cannot remember anything concrete about her. The reason why is that she has been copy protected!


    This novel is full of nifty ideas and deserves to be better known. If you like "out there" writers like Dick, Varley or Egan pick it up.

    1. Re:A possible one for the future by 4/3PI*R^3 · · Score: 2

      Why get a "virtual" girlfriend when you can get a real mechanical girlfriend? Check out the Sci-Fi classic Cherry 2000. And now technology is approaching this perfect woman with Real Doll!!

  215. Star Communicator = walkie talkie by gorgon · · Score: 2
    e.g. Cap'n Kirk's communicator == prototype mobile phone
    There was nothing particularly prescient about the communicators in Star Trek. Walkie talkies have been around since 1935 and the Star Trek communicator isn't really fundamentally any different from a walkie talkie. Sure, the communicators look more like current style flip cell phones, but even the concepts behind cell phones have been around since 1947 and both walkie talkies and communicators are based on direct point-point communication, while cell phones require intermediate cell stations.
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  216. As We May Think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Not necessarily the traditional science fiction, but if you're looking for writing that has been influential on real world writing, I can't think of anything more appropriate than As We May Think, written by Vannevar Bush. This was written for the Atlantic in 1945, and among other things described a system called the Memex which was very much like today's concepts of computers and the Internet.

    Among other things, this article was read by Douglas C. Engelbert, and was the inspiration for his invention of early networked prototypes, the mouse, early windowing systems, etc.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/unbound/flashbks/comp ut er/bushf.htm

  217. the book you're looking for by deafgreatdane · · Score: 1

    The Dreams Our Stuff is Made Of, by Thomas Disch. A nice coverage of classic sci-fi and the products, culture, philosophies it has influenced.

  218. A.C. Clarke - Childhood's End by jabber01 · · Score: 2

    Childhood's End by Clarke, written in the 50's.

    Foresaw space flight and the space race, the Pill, DNA paternity testing, FAX machines, and several other things.. It's been a while since I've read it.

    It's definitelly one for the reading list though.

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    1. Re:A.C. Clarke - Childhood's End by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      facsimile machines have been around since the 1800s, or at least early 1900s. do some research.

  219. Test tube babies... by Triple+D · · Score: 1

    While we're talking about Brave New World...

  220. Bene Tleilaxu by kawlyn · · Score: 1
    Given the recent headlines involving cloning how about Frank Herbert? We have the Bene Tleilaxu and their axolotl tanks. We have the tech guys from IX. Mentats anyone?

    Okay where are the references to now? Well IX is a good place to start, if you're not from IX every thing is Black box technology. Aside from the readers here who really understand what's going on in the box on your desk?

    Then we have the Orange Catholic Bible and the backlash against technology and "thinking machines"

    Throw in a little slavery and oppression, some economically motiviated warfare and you're almost there.

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  221. the water bed by sledd_1 · · Score: 1

    Robert Heinlen suggested the water bed in 'tranger in a Strange Land' I think

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  222. automatic doors by jasonzzz · · Score: 0


    The automatic doors on the original Star Trek series - the ones that open automagically
    whenever a crew member approaches it - so intrigued the US Navy that they had their tech
    people talk with Roddenberry. Unfortunately, the
    doors were not operated by tech, but by stage
    hands. Now, they are common place in super
    markets.

  223. before hoc therefore because of hoc by Bongzilla · · Score: 1

    Or some such latin quote.

    Seems to me like this has really similar footing to the claim that a manager might make that she is responsible for the company's product because she had the idea for it in the first place. Could be totally reasonable, I'm not arguing it's an invalid claim.

    Similarly, if you were to get to a place (the moon?) first and stake the ground, then when others get there and implement the infrastructure (deep core mines?) then you can take all the credit. Why not? See, the Oklahoma Sooners.

    Although then again perhaps people taking these stances might just be worried about getting their fare share of the credit, certainly not *all* the credit.

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    1. Re:before hoc therefore because of hoc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FYI: The saying is

      POST HOC, ERGO PROPTER HOC
      After this, therefore because of this

    2. Re:before hoc therefore because of hoc by knobmaker · · Score: 1

      Someone probably ought to mention that this is the name of a logical _fallacy_. Here's an example: "My son started smoking pot, and then he was diagnosed with schizophrenia. Therefore, smoking pot causes schizophrenia."

      It's a very popular logical fallacy, especially in politics.

  224. e.g. Cap'n Kirk's communicator == prototype mobile by LionKimbro · · Score: 1

    Goddammit People get it right!!!

    == is for comparison only!

    Stop saying "A==B" in an attempt to be G33k k001.If you want to say A=B, say A=B. Please spare us the needless comparison operator!

    Argh! Fucking annoys me every time I see it!

    Wanna B3 Lamer C kod3rs.

  225. Re:Novels have no effect upon scientific developme by anicklin · · Score: 1

    This implies that ESA scientists have already run out of ideas of things to do in space. Which in turn implies that they think they've already done everything...

    Although... it's a good excuse to use tax money to buy some enjoyable reading... ;-)

  226. Asimov & Robots by notcarlos · · Score: 2, Informative
    I'm sure this has been said before, but Asimov didn't /invent/ the word "robot". As the Oxford English Dictionary says,
    • Czech, f. robota forced labour; used by Karel apek (1890-

    • 1938) in his play R.U.R. ('Rossum's Universal Robots') (1920).

    Just my $0.02.
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  227. Lessons for writing sci-fi by Mu*puppy · · Score: 1
    Personally, I'm not interested in this historical project of finding which guesses were right, or Tech TV style observations of "Gee Whiz, isn't this tech great!" I'm more interested with the dialog about future trends, and more of our society thinking about the future.

    On a side note, it seems that predictive science fiction is drawing back its horizons more and more. It seems good predictive science fiction is concerned with the next few years, maybe a few generations at most, while hundreds to thousands of years in the future is the domain of fantastical science fiction and lite sci-fi shows. Is this because all the predictive science fiction writers are having a hard time thinking past the singularity?

    Well, take a look at what these former sci-fi authors -wrote- about. In those days, there was a space program that actually had strong funding (gotta love the Cold War...) and strong public backing. Mankind was going into space, and dammit, it was a BIG THING. Now, I have a hard time finding out from mainstream media that a US Space Shuttle has either launched, landed, or has done something in space besides working with some X million dollar experiment that: a. has been faulty on the ground, b. has been faulty in deployment, c. is the pet project of politician Y who the media happens to like at the time, d. has to deal with some 'controversial' experimentation, or e. deals with something that is 'trully innovative' in the eyes of media.

    Look at the writings of people like Asimov, or Herbert. Now be brutally honest: how many of the events with dates attached to them, or short 'windows of time' from when they were written (anything less than 40 years, pretty much), have actually happened? Look at sci-fi now. Just how many authors actually put dates on events, or write of events in that short 'window of time' of 40 years or less from now? By 2001, Arthur Clarke had us sending a manned exploration mission to Jupiter. Now 2001 is almost over, and we can barely keep a handful of people up in a severely under-funded tin-can called the ISS.

    I think authors currently writing have seen what has happened with such 'predictions' to date, and have taken a lesson from it all. It's easy to write about events 'X hundred/thousand years/generations' from now, but it's damned hard to write about things in just 10 to 20 years from now...

    -and actually get it right.

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  228. NOT Snow Crash. but Neuromancer by tylerh · · Score: 5, Informative

    The first commerically successful "cyberspace" novel was "Neuromancer," by William Gibson. There are two worlds in Neuromancer: the corporeal world, run by corporations, and the cyberworld, which one "Jacks in" to via a computer hookup. IN cyberspace, data passes freely, but a lot work goes into protecting data from hackers. The protagonist is a hacker how specializes in stealing data. Sound familiar?

    Gibson was so spot on that several commercial products use names from the book, eg BlackICE.

    If you can find it, there is this great interview with William Gibson in which he discussed watching two kids playing pong (the original commercial video game, back in the 70s). Gibson realized that, for the players, the world behind the screen was just a real as a tennis court is to a tennis player. So Gibson pursued this "world behind the screen" metaphor and produced a striking, immersive world based an ubiquitous computers communicated via a world-wide standard network. This vision drove a lot of researchers, and still does. Many of us crave the fully, head mounted, immersive 3-D displays used in the book. But I'll take a pass on the Texas Catheter.

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    1. Re:NOT Snow Crash. but Neuromancer by ProfKyne · · Score: 1
      But I'll take a pass on the Texas Catheter.

      Actually, I think that was a novel called Hardwired by Walter Jon Williams. The main character drives a hovertank and uses a Texas catheter when he's "working".

      On that note, Walter Jon Williams' Voice of the Whirlwind was one of the first books that I ever read that dealt with the ethical and political ramifications of being a clone. But it's a relatively recent book and a relatively old idea, so I'm not claiming that it was the first to do so.

      He's a great hard SF/cyberpunk author, though.

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    2. Re:NOT Snow Crash. but Neuromancer by td · · Score: 3, Interesting

      > Gibson realized that, for the [Pong]
      > players, the world behind the screen
      > was just a real as a tennis court is to
      > a tennis player. So Gibson pursued this
      > "world behind the screen" metaphor
      > and produced a striking, immersive
      > world based an ubiquitous computers
      > communicated via a world-wide standard
      > network.

      And published it about 10 years after
      Ted Nelson described the idea (which
      he called Fantic Space, by analogy
      with the filmic space that cinema
      theorists talk about) in his book Dream
      Machines/Computer Lib.

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    3. Re:NOT Snow Crash. but Neuromancer by foosnarf · · Score: 1

      I've been told by Lewis Shiner, one of Gibson's cyberpunk contemporaries, that Gibson actually got his ideas for the book from an episode of Nova on PBS. It would be quite a job to track this down, but I suspect PBS would be very helpful in hopes of a hipness boost.

    4. Re:NOT Snow Crash. but Neuromancer by YanIsa · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think that was a novel called Hardwired by Walter Jon Williams. The main character drives a hovertank and uses a Texas catheter when he's "working".

      Isn't that Damnation Alley by Zelazny?

      And regarding the topic, you'd think that a would-be author of such a paper would be someone well versed in SF, not someone who'd have to turn to us for help.

      Yan

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    5. Re:NOT Snow Crash. but Neuromancer by mobius_stripper · · Score: 1

      I think the real forerunner of VR and cyberspace is found in I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream by Harlan Ellison, written in 1966. Chillingly excellent story.

      Krishna

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    6. Re:NOT Snow Crash. but Neuromancer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, it was Defender, not Pong.

    7. Re:NOT Snow Crash. but Neuromancer by deoxyribozyme · · Score: 1
      I'm TAing a class called "Science Fact and Science Fiction" taught by Mark Reed (molecular computing guy). Check out the syllabus at:
      1. http://classes.yale.edu/browse.html
      2. Click on Homepage: Engineering and Applied Science 111a

  229. Is this news? by kenrus · · Score: 1

    Just my opinion, but it seems like there should be a seperate area for questions to the slashdot community instead of the front page. I expect to see more "news" type stuff on the front page. -K

  230. Zodiac by Neil Stephenson by Hiro+Antagonist · · Score: 2

    Stephenson wrote an "eco-thriller" titled Zodiac in 1988 that centers around the use of bacteria to clean up chemical spills (in this case, organic chlorene), much like we are starting to do today with oil spills.

    Definitely not computer related. *grin*

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  231. Re:I'm a meat eater, hear me roar! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bet you left arm hurts like a bitch, doesn't it fattie?


    (damn, at this rate, I'll be IP banned before troll Tueday!)

  232. A lesser known source... Buck Rogers by man_of_mr_e · · Score: 1

    Everyone is taking the easy stuff. How about some lesser known sources?

    Here's mine. The very first "Buck Rogers" story in 1928 - called Armageddon-2419. It was originally published in Amazing Stories, and then published as a Novella shortly after.

    The book, written by Philip Francis Nowlan, accurately predicted the bazooka, the jet plane, walkie-talkie for warfare, the infra-red ray gun for fighting at night, as well as dozens of other advances that are not here yet but are on their way.

    It was interesting in that their ships were anti-gravity ships powered by a mineral called "Upsium" or something like that in which the mineral was antigravity because it was drawn to the nearest perfect vacuum (Hoover hadn't been invented yet I guess ;)

    I think the story author is missing the boat about books after WWII. By WWII, most theoretical science was well known. It's the stuff prior to WWII that is the most prescient.

    1. Re:A lesser known source... Buck Rogers by GreyPoopon · · Score: 2
      The book, written by Philip Francis Nowlan, accurately predicted the bazooka, the jet plane

      I would assume that the bazooka is pretty much the realistic implementation of the rocket gun. I'm not sure that he described a jet plane. Instead, I think that the planes they were flying used rocket engines, although I could be wrong there. I'll have to see if I can find my well-aged copy of the book. It was interesting in that their ships were anti-gravity ships powered by a mineral called "Upsium" or something like that in which the mineral was antigravity because it was drawn to the nearest perfect vacuum (Hoover hadn't been invented yet I guess ;)

      I think the mineral was known as Inertron. Interestingly enough, it didn't exist in natural form within the normal universe. The book loosely described the procedures for obtaining it as "inserting a ... probe into a ... reality gap," which I would assume to mean that it was obtained from a parallel universe. The other interesting aspect of this material is that it was a near-perfect insulator and the only thing that was impervious to the dreaded dis-beam (disintegrator beam).

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    2. Re:A lesser known source... Buck Rogers by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      > I think the mineral was known as Inertron.

      I thought Inertron was that magical element in the DC universe that corresponded to Adamantium (no, seriously) in the Marvel universe.

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  233. Other US military stuff by Triple+D · · Score: 1

    What about "smartguns" and other computerized soldier assistance? I think this comes from Gibson, but was also in several bad movies, ie: Universal Soldier.

  234. First WORKING sub by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 2

    A sub that sinks and doesn't rise again is hardly a submarine, is it? Lots of airplanes were invented, but never flew, so they don't quite qualify either.

    1. Re:First WORKING sub by Cruciform · · Score: 1

      The sub worked... he just didn't do so well as a pilot :)

    2. Re:First WORKING sub by shogun · · Score: 2, Funny

      But if those airplanes crash in the ocean do they qualify as submarines?

    3. Re:First WORKING sub by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      It stayed sub-marine, so I'd say it was a success.

      Anyhoo, a plane that took off and immediately crashed would be the first successful flight. The first successful landing, or redocking, would be another story...

      > which tell of Alexander the Great in a proto-sub back in 356 BC

      I was going to bring up Leonardo DaVinci, but why bother if beaten by almost 2 kiloyears.

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  235. Star Trek diagnostic beds by dR.fuZZo · · Score: 2

    I don't have a link or any firm citation, but since I haven't seen any notes talking about it already, I thought I'd mention that I've heard that the diagnostic beds in the Enterprise's sick bay have served as inspiration for real world devices.

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  236. Catch-22 by Hiro+Antagonist · · Score: 2

    Joseph Keller's novel Catch-22 seems to have nicely predicted our current system of government, especially as it relates to intellectual property laws and vehicle registration.

    With the same novel, he also predicted the clarity and usability of Microsoft technical documentation, and did so before computers were ever invented...utterly amazing...

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    1. Re:Catch-22 by bigbird · · Score: 1
      With the same novel, he also predicted the clarity and usability of Microsoft technical documentation, and did so before computers were ever invented...utterly amazing...

      Computers were invented before 1961 (when C-22 was published), actually.

  237. Finnigans Wake by Feanor1 · · Score: 1

    By James Joyce.. Seriously.. Anyone who has tried to read it knows, all they did was try to read it.. And anyone who says they did, just tried.
    But, the word Quark came from it.. The scientist that discovered them had been looking at his data trying to make sence, went home and to relax got out Finnigans Wake(sp) and read a line that went something like "3 Quarks in a Nark" or something.. The answer then hit him and he named them Quarks..
    Also it described TV's long before they existed.

    1. Re:Finnigans Wake by JimPooley · · Score: 2

      Three Quarks for Muster Mark!

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  238. Ender's Game and the Internet by TrixX · · Score: 2

    In Ender's Game (1985) there's a worldwide computer network that allows access to news, research information, travel schedules [in the book Peter studied Russian troop movements analyzing movement of freight trains based on information from the Net], and discussion forums. It's true that in 1985 there was already a big IP-based network growing, but the books shows a Net that is a part of everyday's life for everyone, much like today's Internet.

  239. What about sci-fi's effects on society itself? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't tell me Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land had no effect on society. It was widely read among students of the mid to late 60s, and helped to inspire (note that I did not say created) free-love and the growing search for personal enlightenment that some say helped crash the hippies' political movement (if you spend more and more time trying to find a place for yourself spiritually, will you have the time and energy required to build a place for yourself through political means?).

    I can't personally recall any books that have had as significant an effect on the popular culture, although many (and I mean MANY) have tapped into that culture to amplify undercurrents already present. Childhood's End is one. Dhalgren is another. Dune. Those books and many others were directly targeted at major themes of the times they were created in, and helped to codify those themes within the people who read them. Stranger was no different, really, but it was more influencial on a personal level to those who read it, and it came early in the period, while being very much a book of its time and the time shortly to come, while breaking free from what came before, which was in and of itself one of the main themes of the book and the journey its characters went on. And I think it continues to speak to those who can't quite accept what propriety suggests for us. It was certainly very well recieved among the neo-hippies at my high school when I suggested that it be taught to the seniors. I think Dhalgren is a better book, but it is very difficult reading, as it completely eschews many of the traditions of science fiction and of modern storytelling in general, and is a very literary book. Rather than use metaphor in description of events, it describes events that are metaphors themselves. Parable would be an adequate word. But rather unlike a book like Stranger, in which the book can be taken as a parable, or small variety of parables, Dhalgren cannot. And yet its little events and what the character sees could be called parables. The latter section of the book has a very strong narrative. In general, you can tell from reading that the author is trying to say something, but he doesn't make it easy to figure out what, which helps generate a mirrored feeling (when you are forced to draw conclusions about what something means, which your mind will do automatically, and there is not enough evidence to determine thought, but only to guide and shape it, you will tend to project your own concerns and feelings and hot-topics, as shaped by the book. The aimlessness this generates is also a theme of the book). Basically it is thus: an amnesiac goes to a partially burning, nearly deserted city with streets that randomly move themselves on occasion. Some weird shit goes down all the time. That's all. It's a character study of an amnesiac. Anything more and you'll have preconceptions which will be ultimately destroyed. Dark City is obviously a Hollywood rip-off (imagine Dark City with only a couple hundred people living in pure anarchy, with cloudy days in addition to the night, with no overseers, and without as pronounced a memory changing effect if at all, with barely noticeably changes to the landscape and without ever finding out what's going on. Then put it in the mid 70s, and populate it with degenerate youths and weird adults and let things go however they might for 800 pages)

  240. Non intrusive medicine by jasonzzz · · Score: 0


    Oh yes, the entire idea of non intrusive
    diagnosis and medicine came about because
    of all of that. MRI and Ultrasonice imaging
    and mapping devices are some of that, but
    imagine being able to apply medicine or
    heal someone without having to splay them
    open on a table in front of you...

  241. Gene Roddenberry (Star Trek) by 3seas · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Gene having been in the military (Navy I believe) drew alot from his
    knowledge of it as well as making many contacts for obtaining more and
    ongoing information.

    It is more likely that Roddenberry (sp?) created fiction based upon fact
    and genuine science theory than the other way around. Though at some point
    there is bound to be the creative license use.

    One such example of technology existing prior to use in the show is what
    many would recognize as the newer type of communicators, the combadges.
    As it turns out, the technology these combadges are based on has existed
    since before the original Star Trek show. That technology is what you can
    do a google search on "neurophone".

    And having been one who got a chance to play around with a prototype, I
    can say that it does in fact work and what you read about it being better
    for the high end of the hearing range is correct.

    But this doesn't much support the imagination to reality direction, for
    Roddenberry wanted to make his show as realistice in information as he
    could and often would bug NASA for technical info (and they were glad to
    help because in turn the show helped gain public interest in the space
    program) while incorporating current social issues into the plot of each
    show.

    However, there were a few shows that Roddenberry did in fact write the
    plot around the concepts of moving imagination into reality. In fact "Q"
    was such a character capable of such power.

    The reality is that there is a truth to it. In the process of creating
    anything, we must first be able to imagine it. Take the general picture
    and begin filling in the details. Really not so unlike the process of
    creating software.

    There is even an identified formula for it:

    T1 (I + E) = v T2 (k)

    T1 = non-mystical thought, T2 = things in physical reality,
    k = the active constant, I = degree of Intent, E = degree of Effort,
    v = velocity of conversion

    A formula that like any math equation, makes two statements.
    Here it is: All things in physical reality can be comprehended and
    all things that can be comprehended in non-mystical thought can be
    created.

    But it really does all begin with imagination and the application of consciousness (see concepts)

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    1. Re:Gene Roddenberry (Star Trek) by xah · · Score: 1

      Where do you get the formula?

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    2. Re:Gene Roddenberry (Star Trek) by 3seas · · Score: 1

      from neo-tech, you can probably find it by searching their web site.
      Though I first saw it in one of their publications many years ago.

  242. Re:Novels have no effect upon scientific developme by zeno_2 · · Score: 1

    Ya, I would agree with what you say, scientiests dont scan sci-fi novels looking for the "next big thing".

    It is pretty interesting though to think that 30 years ago, this author came up with this idea, and back then everyone thought it was very much sci-fi, but we now have something today that is pretty close to it.

    All these posts though have sparked my interest in jules verne, ill probably go do some reading tonight on the subject =).

  243. Sam Delaney's Dahlgren by Triple+D · · Score: 1

    For the color-changing fabric which was discussed here on Slashdot about two weeks ago. And the computerized dating service in Stars in my Pocket, also by Delaney.

  244. those who live by the pun... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IF&nbspI&nbspEVER&nbspMEET&nbspYOU,&nbspI&nbspWILL &nbspKICK&nbspYOUR&nbspASS!

  245. Brave New World by DumbSwede · · Score: 1
    Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" should be on this list, especially in light of this week's therapeutic cloning of a human being.

    Ironically science fiction is not so much about inventing new science, but rather predicting the consequences of extrapolating what comes about from predictable developments. Many dystopian worlds may have been prevented because someone thought through the consequences and penned them as science fiction novels -- Soylant Green comes to mind.

    Science Fiction's main effect is on how we use technology, and in many cases what we name technological items. The experimental Shuttle that never made it to orbit was named the "Enterprise" in homage to Star Trek's vessel of the same name.

  246. George O. Smith... by Bogatyr · · Score: 1

    wrote an ee doc smith-like series of stories of men running a communications satellite relaying between the Earth, Venus and either Mercury or Mars. You can find the space opera stories collected as _The Complete Venus Equilateral_.

  247. shoephone by cHALiTO · · Score: 1

    well you got the shoe phone from get smart (the series wasn't sci-fi, but i guess you could use it) ==> cell phones.
    the radio watch in dick tracy, (which in the later version came with a camera and screen) ==> recent developments by ibm and co.
    counless examples in robotics (lost in space, buck rogers, starwars, etc)

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  248. Verne: In the year 2889 by fwc · · Score: 2
    There is a short story written by Jules Vern entitiled "In the Year 2889" (online copy of story) which describes a day in the life of a Journalist in the 29th century.

    There are three things which are scary about this short... First that it was written in 1885 (over 100 years ago). Second, how accurate his predictions are. And finally (and perhaps most scarily) that his predictions were off by a factor of 10 - 100 years in the future instead of 1000.

    Definately a must read in this type of study.

  249. Cause or effect? by Matthew+Bassett · · Score: 1

    I think there is a big mix up between cause and effect here. (a). Inventions are the effect of the following causes: (i) a problem, (ii) a technology, (iii) the knowledge to take a technology and apply it to a problem to make a solution. (b). (Good) Science fiction inventions are the effect of the following causes: (i) an imagined problem, (ii) an imagined technology, (iii) an imagined solution. Where (a).(i-ii) and (b).(i-ii) have a relatively close match then (a).(iii) and (b).(iii) will inevitably be a close match (think about the shape of the shark and the dolphin), but establishing a causal link between (b) and (a) is going to be difficult as (a) is going to be much more heavily influenced by it's (i) and (ii) than by anything in (b) When (a).(i-ii) and (b).(i-ii) are wildly different, then any relationship between the technologies produced is purely in the imagination of the of the person suggesting it. Ergo... anyone suggesting that Science Fiction has influenced technology/inventions has been asked the wrong question (Science Fiction can anticipate inventions, but it's much better at extrapolating existing ones and predicting their impact on society).

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    1. Re:Cause or effect? by Matthew+Bassett · · Score: 1

      To follow up myself...
      A lot of people seem to be mixing up the terminology for something rather than the invention of the thing itself, as well... Science fiction will sometimes provide a new term that gets picked up to describe a new technology e.g. robots, the 'net, etc. (any arguement about whether or not SF has influenced robotics has surely got to start with Mary Shelley's Frankenstein?)

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  250. Try NASA by Tolomak · · Score: 1


    There's an excellent resource at NASA: The Space Educators' Handbook

    http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/er/seh/seh.html

    They have a section on science fiction predictions translated into hard science as far as space travel is concerned (rockets, space stations, shuttles).

  251. Shockwave Rider, by John Brunner by Fifth+of+Five · · Score: 1

    Noted earlier in this thread, but deserves a more pointed mention. It was written in 1975 and hits alot of points regarding technology 20 years forward. Couple of serious misses, as well. I used to think the cultural commentary of the book was off the mark. but can anyone say "Survivor" or "Fear Factor" and their ilk don't bear a resemblance to "Circus Bocconi?"

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  252. "Adolescence of P1" predicts Intenet virus, 1977 by tylerh · · Score: 2


    Adolscence of P1", by Thomas Ryan, in 1977 described software that would reside on a single computer (IBM mainframe) and use a straightforward AI algorithm to go across computer networks and attempted to break into the next computer, copy itself onto that next computer, and "root" itself (actually hijack the PSW - these were IBM mainframes) on that next machine. Eventually, P1 infects most of the mainframes in America, giving the programmer the ability to (among other things) avoid payment on his credit card. Unfortunatley, P1 gets widespread enough to start hogging noticeable resources and piss off the sys ops and other powers that be.

    In short, Ryan mapped out both the structure and effect and an efficient internet virus in 1977. Given that P1 was
    widely read by com. sci types, and some friends and I actually toyed with writing a P1 style virus in the early 80's (we were too lazy/lame to figure out how to hijack the PSW), I assume there are computer viruses now that are the direct descendant of P1.

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  253. Other ideas by zunger · · Score: 2

    Hey, cool! (I'm a CU alum as well...) Some ideas for your project:

    * Robotics is an obvious one -- the term itself was coined by Asimov, and the term "robot" by Capek. Asimov's collected works are definitely the most influential on this subject, to the extent that his "laws of robotics" are in fact quoted at the opening of one of the standard reference works on the subject.

    * For computers in the most modern era, Gibson's _Neuromancer_ had a surprisingly deep impact; a large fraction of modern terminology (even the general usage of the word "Net") stems from there, as do many of the ways in which programmers visualized what they were trying to achieve.

    * One thing that might not be so obvious is nuclear everything. There was actually a series of short stories published by various authors in the early 1940's (pre-Hiroshima!) which were remarkably technically accurate and which were being read at places like Los Alamos. Some stories on this thread:

    "Nerves" by Lester del Rey -- this appeared orignally as a short story and was then expanded into a novella. The former is better written and more historically significant; you can find it in "My Favorite Science Fiction Story," edited by Greenberg.

    "Solution Unsatisfactory" by Robert Heinlein, in his anthology "Expanded Universe." "Blowups Happen," by the same author and in "The Past Through Tomorrow," is about nuclear power.

    OK, really this is such a broad topic that it's impossible to generate even a basic list; science fiction was so influential because the scientists read it, as children and as adults, and their notions of what sort of projects ought to be attacked were deeply shaped by this. If you go from a historical perspective, things to go for might be

    * Hugo Gernsback was the first of the "great editors;" he edited some of the chief science fiction pubs back in the 20's and 30's, and was largely responsible for a vision of a technological utopia. He wrote some books of his own as well; this was all tied in heavily with things ranging from the Art Deco movement in architecture to the technological movement in Fascism. His books can be good refs. "The Jetsons" is a direct descendant of this line of writing, to give you an idea...

    * There's a huge amount of "golden age" (40's-50's) SF which really shaped ideas about space travel, robotics, and nuclear energy. For this it might be best to go to anthologies from the period; the one edited by Greenberg mentioned above is good, as are any edited by John W. Campbell. (The second of the "great editors")

    * The modern discussion of computers really started around the 60's, but I don't know this era as well. But from the perspective of a computer programmer, (and thus the receiving end of this cultural influx :) I can't think of any writers that made a huge impact in this regard between Asimov and the other golden age writers and Gibson in the mid-80's. And at that point it gets rather hard to tell what had historical significance, if only because it's so recent.

    Hope some of this helps, and good luck on your course!

  254. What, no Frankenstein? by Silverhammer · · Score: 1

    Seriously, Mary Shelly's Frankenstein is the first bonafide science fiction novel. The horror aspects of it are just window dressing for a much deeper discussion of bioengineering and bioethics, written during the height of the Scientific/Industrial Revolution when all the old "divine miracles" were becoming less divine and less miraculous every day.

  255. Asimov did write about the personal computer by Neelix21 · · Score: 1

    Asimov may not have invented the word "robot" as he's often credited for, and perhaps the "three laws" aren't his either, i don't know.

    What i do know, is that Asimov was one of the first writers who wrote about personal computers as we use them now. And that was back in the 1940s.

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  256. "The Shockwave Rider" by John Brunner by PapaZit · · Score: 2

    This was, in turn, based on "Shockwave", by Alvin Toffler.

    It's the first mention that I've seen of computer worms. He assumed that people would use their telephones to access centralized and interconnected mainframe systems, and that both legitimate and malicious users would unleash worms through the systems to do their bidding. It also has a really interesting subplot about universal ID numbers.

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  257. Cordwainer Smith by knobmaker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think this overstates the seminal importance of Neuromancer. Gibson is a fine writer, but in my view, the most vivid tropes in his book were taken from the movie Blade Runner, and I see that movie as the primordial genesis of today's cyberculture, such as it is. Gibson cheerfully admits that he knew next to nothing about computers when he wrote Neuromancer, though certainly that didn't keep him from coming up with an engaging visual metaphor for data systems.

    Getting back to technology and sf, the stories written by Cordwainer Smith back in the (I believe) 50s concern genesplicing. His best-known theme concerns animals elevated to sentience via genetic engineering, to serve as slaves to the fully-human. This is only a small step, in conceptual terms) from tomatoes with flounder genes, which already exist.

    I recommend "The Ballad of Lost C'mell" as a start.

    1. Re:Cordwainer Smith by uglyduckling · · Score: 1
      the most vivid tropes in his book were taken from the movie Blade Runner

      Blade Runner was actually a screenplay based on the Philip K. Dick novel, 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?'.

      Neuromancer was published in 1984, Do Androids Dream was originally published in 1968 and the film in 1982 so there is a good chance that they could have influenced Neuromancer. Sadly I haven't read the book, but I read Do Androids Dream...? a long time ago and have seen Bladerunner over and over.

    2. Re:Cordwainer Smith by sgage · · Score: 1
      "His best-known theme concerns animals elevated to sentience via genetic engineering, to serve as slaves to the fully-human. This is only a small step, in conceptual terms) from tomatoes with flounder genes, which already exist."


      Yes, it's just a small step from sticking a flounder gene into a tomato to making it sentient. NOT. In conceptual terms or any other, it is a bit of a gap between so-called "genetic engineering" (by no stretch of the imagination is it engineering) as we know it today, and creating sentient non-human slaves by genetic tinkering.

    3. Re:Cordwainer Smith by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, otherwise "Killer Tomatoes" would've been a great source for predictions...

    4. Re:Cordwainer Smith by knobmaker · · Score: 1

      So, I assume you believe that, using current technology, it would be impossible to insert feline genetic material into human germ plasm?

      I think you're wrong, since the genetic divide between non-primate animals and humans is far narrower than the gap between tomatoes and flounders. And I have to assume you haven't read Cordwainer Smith, whose obvious subtext was that it is easy to disenfranchise beings based in relatively minor deviations from whatever the powers-that-be define as "human." If, say, the gene for nicitating membranes was expressed in an otherwise human creature, some would inevitably insist that such a creature was not human. They've done it before on the even more trivial basis of skin color, so I think old Cordwainer was on to something, don't you?

    5. Re:Cordwainer Smith by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think everyone who has seen bladerunner
      more than once knows that it is based
      on "do androids dream of electric sheep".
      However, the look and feel of bladerunner,
      and the dystopic view was not clearly present
      in the book. I really like Phillip K Dick
      books, but in the case of bladerunner, it could have easily wound up being a piece of
      crap if the same screenwriter who wrote total
      recall had written the screenplay. And
      gibsons workshave a really cool blend of
      seemingly realistic culture mixed with very near future technology, BUT I think that the
      realistic culture is the thing that he pulled
      off, much of his technological predictions
      were fleshed out derivatives. If you read
      alot of pre-1980 science fiction you may
      agree,....Or not

    6. Re:Cordwainer Smith by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      > In conceptual terms or any other, it is a bit of
      > a gap between so-called "genetic engineering" (by
      > no stretch of the imagination is it engineering)
      > as we know it today, and creating sentient
      > non-human slaves by genetic tinkering.

      We'll probably resurrect Lucy or a Neanderthal for this purpose before we get around to genetically engineering a smarter ape, much less a dog or cat.

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    7. Re:Cordwainer Smith by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But does everyone know about Syd Mead, the futurist and designer for most of Blade Runner's dystopic visions?

  258. World's "tallest building" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In at least one science fiction story, I've read of an elevator to outer space. It was "anchored" in outer space by placing some sort of counterweight in a geosynchronous orbit and was built using something like carbon fibers. Although not yet realized, contemporary architects have proposed just such a thing.

  259. John Brunner by doctor+negative · · Score: 1

    2 books by John Brunner Shockwave Rider- (Early 1970's)Uses the word Web to descibe an electronic public opinion bulletin board system. A generally prophetic book. The Sheep Look Up- (Early 1970's)Deals with global pollution. Predicts things like acid rain and pesticide resistant bugs.

  260. From the top of my head... by CyberDruid · · Score: 1

    Arthur C. Clarke - The geosynchronous communication satellite [Don't know the title...]
    Heinlein - Nanotech [in his short story 'Waldo', that also explores a few other foresighted inventions]
    Heinlein - CAD/CAM ['The door into summer']
    Karel Capek - Robots [in his play R.U.R, the word is derived from the Czech word 'robota', meaning 'work' or possibly 'forced workers / slaves']
    Jules Verne - Helicopter ['Propellor Island']
    Jules Verne - Submarine ['20000 leagues under the sea']
    H.G Wells - Suspended animation ['The sleeper awakes']... hrrm perhaps reanimation is not feasible yet, but at least some people have done the suspend part.
    Lucian of Samosata - Moon travel ['True history' 2000 years ago!]
    William Gibson - Cyberspace, wetware, etc ['Neuromancer']
    Asimov - Did not really invent anything that I am aware of, but his 'I, robot' inspires AI-researchers to this day.

    It is a shame that my favourite SF author, Greg Egan, wrote all his stuff so recently, so that none of it have had the chance to come true yet. If Egan's or Vernor Vinge's fantasies ever become reality, things will be very different... far out... ;)

    --

    Opinions stated are mine and do not reflect those of the Illuminati

  261. Heinlein's "Solution Unsatisfactory" by roystgnr · · Score: 2

    Predicted (in 1941) the development of atomic weapons, and the order of magnitude difference between conventional and nuclear warfare.

    The weapons predicted in the story, however, were dust made from radioactive isotopes and then spread by conventional means to render a city uninhabitable. That part's not science fact yet, but it is one of our biggest fears from terrorists who probably can get their hands on nuclear materials but probably can't construct a working fission bomb.

    1. Re:Heinlein's "Solution Unsatisfactory" by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

      There's a short in "Expanded Universe" that predicts a terrorist (or rogue nation) using a suitcase nuke to blow up New York.

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      Fascism starts when the efficiency of the government becomes more important than the rights of the people.
  262. Of course, Gibson by ProfKyne · · Score: 1

    Don't forget William Gibson. These days we get annoyed when we hear the cliche "cyberspace", but when he first used it to describe the "consensual hallucination of data", a WWW didn't really exist yet.

    --
    "First you gotta do the truffle shuffle."
  263. Babel fish by juha0 · · Score: 1

    Don't give too much credit to Douglas Adams. Actually Babel fish was already in the Bible.

  264. Philip K. Dick by BelugaMyth · · Score: 1

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I think he invented/envisioned prozac, zoloft, and a myriad of other government sponsored drugs to escape reality. See: The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldrich and A Scanner Darkly.

  265. U.S. Robotics by Surak_Prime · · Score: 1

    As someone else has already pointed out, Asimov did NOT invent the term "robot". He DID, however, coin the term "robotics" to describe the field of study. And, I probably need not tell you, U.S. Robotics (the real communications company purchased by 3COM) is named for U.S. Robotics and Mechanical Men from Asimov's stories.

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    :::The Spear in the heart of the Other is the Spear in the heart of You; You are He - Surak of Vulcan:::
  266. Heinlein predicted Web surfing by Kent+Brewster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    See Friday, 1982. Heinlein's view of the Web wasn't fully-immersive cyberspace; it was just the simple--and brutally addictive--joy of clicking from one subject to another and going wherever you wanted.

  267. Whoa by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 2

    The Japanese borrowed arbeit to form their word arubaito, for part time work or labor.

  268. offtopic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Are you Irish? Saw the screen name, just wondered.


    (I'm thulldud, posting AC because I don't have my /. password at work.)

    1. Re:offtopic by easter1916 · · Score: 1

      Yes, I am -- I'm living in Saint Louis, though. Up Cork!

  269. Asimov, Pocket Calc, Foundation by Gumba+Warrior · · Score: 1

    Asimov's Foundation was published in the early 1950's. When I read it 20 years later, the HP-35 was the geek calculator of choice. In Foundation, the mathematician Hari Seldon kept his calculator in a pouch on his belt, and "red symbols glowed out from the gray".

    The red symbols had to be a coincidence, because LED technology drove the color of the display. But each HP-35 was shipped with a leather belt pouch -- which became the ultimate geek symbol. It would be easy to believe that someone in HP borrowed the belt pouch idea from Foundation.

    Sadly, pocket calculators and computers in general have not approached the power of Seldon's handheld, which could do symbolic mathematics at a level beyond current understanding. But that's what SF is about.

  270. Not to be nitpicky, but... by pongo000 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    ...Selanit asks:

    So here's my question: what science-fiction novels have had a particularly noticeable effect on the development of technology?

    Some folks here have actually attempted to answer the original question, like the guy who suggested the Navy adopted the use of key tactical stations in the same vein as the Enterprise. Others, however, seem to confuse the mere mention of some "futuristic" concept as "having an effect" on the realization of the concept.


    I've read Verne, and I find it hard to believe his ideas (futuristic as they were) had any influence on modern nuclear technology. I think Selanit has taken on a formidable task: How does one prove a cause-effect relationship between sci-fi and reality? I've seen little evidence here I would consider "proof" in this regard.


    Maybe Selanit would be so kind as to publish a link of his/her work on /. ... I'm sure that would be an interesting, and original, article.

  271. Re:Examples that I remember (in no particular orde by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The US Army was using needle-free compressed air
    vaccinations not later than 1968. I was on the
    receiving end.

  272. Re:I'm working on a project that is somewhat relat by SablKnight · · Score: 1

    Fail-safe [imdb.com] came out around the same time, with the same message, portrayed in a much more gripping fashion. In fact if it were not for copyright issues, it might have even beaten it to theaters.

    Not to belittle Strangelove of course, I think it's a great movie also, but I think Fail-safe conveys the message more convincingly.

    -SablKnight
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  273. Re:Arthur C Clarke and more by Zeelan · · Score: 1

    I have seen a lot of people on here pointing to Hienlien and Arthur C Clarke as well as Azimov. They all have done well with predictions on future technology and such. So to get a little more fun in your study though, you might like to read the more 'near' furture stories that come out.

    An interesting one might be Earth by David Brin. There are some others. Just do a search for such books and read over the ones that are about 20 to 10 years old. 80s and 70s... most of the 60s stuff was to heavy into peace love and drugs.

    You might also like to look at some of the more fantastic fiction. Like EE Doc Smith... he has laser weapons in his writings. Though he didn't call them that. Light beam guns. 1920s or somewhere in there.

    Another writer that did some interesting things was H Beam Piper. The Cosmic computer and other such things.

    You get some really interesting ideas out of some of Simak's (sp?) work. City, and the cities in flight books.

    Thare are probable a ton more that I can't remember off the top of my head just yet.

    Oh... The Postman by David Brin... not really the tech... but the leftover tech after a war that happened in the 'near' future. Forget the movie... that sucked megadonkey...

    Anyway...

    There you go!

  274. Re:Novels have no effect upon scientific developme by rkhalloran · · Score: 1

    Of course this is self-aggrandizement to some degree, but Niven&Pournelle's Footfall features a military threat-assessment team for alien invasion composed of **VERY** recognizable caricatures of well-known SF writers, including the authors themselves.

  275. Asimov by KingKire64 · · Score: 1

    What person who has entered the field of AI hasen't been a devout fan of Asimov. His writings on the positronic mind have changed teh way we look at AI Look at the Cyc project Half of the ppl that work there are philosophers.

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    "All I can tell the "lesser of two evils" folks is that if they keep voting for evil, they'll keep getting evil."-Lp.org
  276. Heinlein and more "inventions" by TeknoDragon · · Score: 2

    He predicted portable phones (cell phones), and is generally recognized as one of the first sci-fi authors to recognize the great potential in computers.

    Word processors have been seen in his works ("The Moon is s Harsh Mistress" and "I Will Fear No Evil" are great examples).

    Fission reactors were allready around when he began writing about them, but he took the idea of a "super reactor" and put it in space (I forget the name of that short story).

    In terms of real world computer science Heinlein is second only to Aasimov's writings IMHO.

    He took some ideas (escalators) and extended them into often copied devices (moving sidewalks "The Roads Will Roll").

    I think the powered armor suits in "Starship Troopers" (the novel was so much better than that film) are an outstanding example of science being inspired by fiction.

    1. Re:Heinlein and more "inventions" by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      > He predicted portable phones (cell phones)

      Actually, portable phones have been around since WWII, maybe WWI for all I know. Yes, they were just "radio" phones, but a cell phone is just a radio phone too, really. The cell part is just fancy icing to make cooperation and movement easier.

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      I am for the complete Trantorization of Earth.
    2. Re:Heinlein and more "inventions" by TeknoDragon · · Score: 2

      Yes, they were backpack sized units into the Vietnam era. Heinlein predicted pocket-sized phones for personal use. Read near the end of "Expanded Universe".

    3. Re:Heinlein and more "inventions" by joekool · · Score: 1

      and also Space Cadet

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      Slackware: old school feel, new school gear.
  277. reading by onepoint · · Score: 1

    Well, laugh all you want but read Analog. it's 7 to 20 years ahead of it's time. The possible stuff written becomes reality about on average 12 -14 years from publishing.

    Sad thing is that in 1987 to 90 analog was writing alot about cloning. Things are comming true.

    my collection stems from 1980. I now fear the laws about cloning.

    -onepoint

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    if you see me, smile and say hello.
  278. Tricorder = PDA by vertaxis · · Score: 1

    Star Trek Tricorders are the inspiration for every handheld computer we have. They have communications and storage capabilities....How long before someone can build a scanner into it?

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    Fear is the enemy; the one true enemy. {Sun Tzu-The Art of War}
  279. Geosynchronous Satellites, Communications, GPS... by Irvu · · Score: 1

    See here
    or here

    To summarize the articles, the idea of something that could hang in a fixed location above the earth is an old one (early indian mythology). However, it was generally considered impossible, impractical etc. Arthur C. Clarke wrote a short (nonficiton) article in which he asserted that geosynchronous satellites would revolutionize communication. Permitting a link between any two points on the globe. Based upon that article people went out and built such satellites. Now the modern international infrasturctre (long distance telecommunications, broadcast networks, etc.), Governments (Spy Satellites, star wars (if its ever built)), and hikers (GPS) all depend upon the technology.

    Strictly speaking its not an example of pure science fiction as Clarke's article appeard in a nonfiction publication. But he was a specialist in Science fiction, and what he did was assert the effect such things would have if they existed not how to make them.

  280. Dick Tracy Wristwatch by Gumba+Warrior · · Score: 1

    Last weekend at Fry's I saw that they were selling wristwatch FRS radios -- that seemed like a rather cool toy.

    Doesn't somebody make a wrist cellphone?

    Yes, I think Chester Gould's Dick Tracy was rather lame, and the wrist is kind of a natural homing point for this sort of gewgaw, but this serves as an excellent illustration of how technology can meet, surpass, and leave in the dust the futuristic visions of the past.

  281. "Vurt" by Jeff Noon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It might not be immediately obvious, but it pretty much describes what's happening right now.

  282. Arthur C Clarke Invented the Internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, not quite. However, I read an article he wrote in the early 1970s that described a world wide web built of hypertext pages.

  283. asimov-a choice of catastrophes by gimpboy · · Score: 2

    in this book he talks about having a computer connected to a network where the user can search for anything and find out information about it. in this way he suggests that people can educate themselves in any way the person desires. it's alot like the net, and the net is getting more and more like this.

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    -- john
  284. Ender's Game by madmancarman · · Score: 1
    It might be a year or two since I've read it, but if I remember correctly, Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card (who has posted on Slashdot occasionally) included concepts like logging into your desk in a classroom and dorm/barracks environment, as well as the manipulation of global politics by two supra-genius kids writing articles anonymously for online publications (more or less). Also included are medical devices connected to your body to monitor you and your health, and remote warfare (although it wasn't robotic). Not bad for a book published in 1985 that started out as a short story published in 1977.

    The second book in the series, Speaker For The Dead, included an artificial intelligence that existed in the fluctuations produced by the use of "subspace" communications. (The name currently escapes me and I don't have the books handy, but it started with an "a").

    They're no comparison for the original Star Trek for all the new technological concepts introduced, but I liked how those things were included as a part of regular, everyday life. Ender's Game is worth a read, regardless of whether you're looking for hints of the future or not.

    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -Ghandi

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    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Gandhi
  285. Asimov's Gold by rebill · · Score: 1

    Isaac Asimov wrote several essays about the influence his stories and ideas had over the modern scientific and industrial thought - including industrial robotics, the Big Bang theory, and what he felt were his own embarassing oversights. They are collected in Gold: The Final Science Fiction Collection.

    Asimov Credits Capek, by the way ...

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    Chivalry is not dead, it's just frequently misspelt. - M. Langley

  286. Thanks from original questioner -- pls mod up by Selanit · · Score: 4, Troll

    Thanks for a great response to my question! I've read many of the comments already, and liked a lot of the suggestions.

    The reading list is not likely to include Neuromancer. Why? Because I read that one this term in a different course, with the same professor. We've already decided not to allow any overlap on the reading lists between the two courses. We are likely to be reading some early Heinlein, possibly Waldo Inc. Many people have suggested reading Jules Verne, and that is certainly a possibility; I was hoping to do more twentieth century stuff, but we'll certainly consider starting with some older material.

    Tonight (or possibly tomorrow night) I will read each and every post which has been submitted (even the -1 posts). I may contact some of you via email for further discussion on some of the more interesting points raised.

    Thanks again for all the terrific comments!

    1. Re:Thanks from original questioner -- pls mod up by pel'nor · · Score: 1

      Not noticed among many fine titles -- Flowers for Algernon -- truly a spur to biotech.

    2. Re:Thanks from original questioner -- pls mod up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone care to explain what the moderator who moderated the parent as a troll was smoking?

    3. Re:Thanks from original questioner -- pls mod up by imaginate · · Score: 1

      check out Arthur Clarke, of course... he came up with the idea of geosyncronous satellites, among other things.......

  287. Tribes and Democracy in Ender's Game by Voivod · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A common thread in most recent future fiction is the idea of monolithic governments slowly becoming irrelevent to our lives. They are replaced in importance by communities or tribes that reflect the lifestyle choices of its members. These tribes are sometimes megacorporations which are an extended family to their employees, providing everything they need to live productive lives. Sometimes they are special interest groups such as religions, philosophies, pop culture groups, hacker clans, etc.

    For years I've felt like this was slowly becoming true. I think Card's vision of a future Democracy powered by highly sophisticated online discussion groups is the most likely form of government that would rise to manage such tribes.

    Take the society described in Sterling's "Distraction" and add the tribal ideas in Stephenson's "Diamond Age" and then the government from Card's "Ender's Game". I think together that is an excellent picture of what the western world will look like 20 years from now. Read Copland's "Microserfs" to see a good current example... or just realize how powerful Slashdot is in organizing (un)productive energy in the young tech community.

    Also, I recommend that you seek out authors who genuinely come from scientific backgrounds or clearly take these subjects very seriously. David Brin, Vernor Vinge, Bruce Sterling are brilliant people who spend a lot of time thinking about these ideas.

    Others (Gibson) are more interested in the pop culture metaphorical aspects and are in my opinion highly overrated. Gibson did not in any way "invent" virtual reality. Famously he refused to use e-mail for years. Not long ago he wrote for Wired about finally discovering the appeal of the Internet when he began shopping for antique watches on eBay. Whatever.

    If you're interested in good idea sci-fi from the last few decades, find the authors who helped build The Well, or were writing stories inspired by the precursors to the Usenet in the 70s.

  288. my list... by versil · · Score: 1, Informative
    A few of my favorites:
    • Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card -- the idea of a global networked community is pervasive.
    • Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep by Philip K. Dick -- there are sociological implications of technology explored seem truer as time grows. (also the basis for the awesome flick Bladerunner)
    • Neuromancer by William Gibson -- "oh look, the web (kinda)! - besides, Molly is hot and we have hot chicks now. Its fiction come true.
    • Foundation by Isaac Asimov -- the great digital library in the sky
    • The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Robert A. Heinlein -- is this the future of the mars project? (minus slinging rocks at earth)
    I'm sure there are several more, but these are the ones that stood out in my mind...
  289. Re:Novels? TV? Film? Influence or just Foreshadowi by TrixX · · Score: 3, Funny

    Secondly, I believe that your choice of Star Trek's communicator isn't actually a good example.

    Specially because there is a much better model of mobile phone from the previous year (1965): Agent 86 and his shoe-phone.

  290. KONSTANTIN TSIOLKOVSKY by vu2lid · · Score: 1

    See stories and works by Tsiolkovsky - considered to be the "Father of Rocketry and Astronautics" He has also written several early science fiction stories. Worth reading - beautiful ... These stories contain a lot of stuff related to rocketry/astronautics which are fact now ...

  291. first space shuttle name changed to Enterprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    because of a massive write-in campaign from Star Trek fans. Look here for more info.

  292. Murray Leinster and the Web by Anomalous+Cowbird · · Score: 1

    Though it is often stated that science fiction never anticipated the World Wide Web, Murray Leinster's early-50's short story "A Logic Named Joe" describes a distributed network of audio-video computing devices ("logics") which are used for information, entertainment, household control, etc. -- essentially taking the place of television, radio, and the public library. (Sound familiar?) I know I've seen this story in more than one anthology, but I can't say where off the top of my head. Shouldn't be too hard to find, though, and well worth seeking out.

  293. Robert L. Forward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just about any book by Robert L. Forward, he is the one that first talked seriously about ion drives and light sails. He also had some interesting ideas about self-building robots/computers for manipulating objects.

  294. Re:my list...(forgot one) by versil · · Score: 0

    Heinlein's Starship Troopers. His view of the modern foot soldier being a technological powerhouse looks better every time I see those techno-warfare specials on the Discovery Channel.

    oh yeah. There's also Dr Who and the robotic household pet (K9==Aibo)! :)

  295. Re:Homosexual: Dead at Age 25 by not_really_here · · Score: 1

    well, thank you for the most offensive thing I've seen today.

  296. PDA Watch by mabster · · Score: 1

    "The Turing Option" by Harry Harrison and Marvin Minksy featured a watch which you could hold up to your monitor and download the day's appointments.

    A year or two after that book came out, Microsoft and (I think) Timex came out with just such a watch.

  297. John Brunner's _Shockwave_Rider_ by SamIIs · · Score: 2

    Read John Brunner's _Shockwave_Rider_. It's a really good read.

    Brunner had this idea in the 70s that, in the future, we would hook lots of computers together, and make a sort of connected network of data-sharing. This web of computers would be able to collect buyer information, and provide a global information age.

    The guy invented the internet. Pretty cool. Definitely worth a read. You should read his _Stand_On_Zanzibar_, too. Very good projection of advertising and culture in a connected time.

  298. Books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isaac Asimov. Any book by him.

    And of late, the bigtime great: neuromancer by William Gibson. Launched the official "cyberpunk" generation.

    Which has yet to truly materialize except in the luscious nipples of angelina jolie in hollywood's hackers.

    Give it 20-30 more years before we enter a neuromancing era.

    Long live the foundation!!!!

  299. Verne, Wells and Heinlein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    In particular:

    • The Door Into Summer, Heinlein: Computer Aided Design (CAD), household automation, telephone answering machines, speech to text, ATM's, hospital delivery robots, etc, etc. In terms of real products that really "happened", one of the most predictive books of all time. Nice, human story, too.
    • Paris in the Twentieth Century, Verne: computers, automation, mass transit, lots more.
    • The Sleeper Awakes (and lots of other books): HG Wells: plenty of predictions, lots of them fairly accurate.


    Now, do written predictions of technology influence its development? My guess is that yes, they do, if for no other reason than that people are more likely to consider a given technology seriously if they've already heard of it in print (even if the print is fiction).


    Hell, there are a LOT of people out there who think that the science of the Star Trek universe is already an open book to us, just because they've seen it on TV so much.

    1. Re:Verne, Wells and Heinlein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Paris in the Twentieth Century (written in 1863!) is not only shockingly accurate in its predictions, but is also one of the earliest novels defininable as SF.

      "Written in 1863, long before the advent of automobiles, electric street lights, and computers, Jules Verne's vision of a strange and unusual world predates both "Brave New World" and "1984", and bests both of those dystopian classics in its amazingly accurate depiction of a technologically extraordinary and socially alienated future world."

      "In 1863 Jules Verne, famed author of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and Around the World in Eighty Days, wrote a novel that his literary agent deemed too farfetched to be published. More than one hundred years later, his great-grandson found the handwritten, never-before published manuscript in a safe. That manuscript was Paris in the Twentieth Century, an astonishingly prophetic view into the future by one of the most renowned science fiction writers of our time . . ."

      http://www.powells.com/search/DTSearch/search?kw =p aris+in+the+twentieth+century&pokey=skeptopotamus

  300. Cyberspace by ucblockhead · · Score: 2
    Gibson coined the word, and, along with Vinge and others, may have popularized it, but the concept is old. Probably half of P. K. Dick's novels involved some sort of false reality, often created by outside forces. More explicitly, Samual Delany uses the idea of a false reality created by computers as a plot-point in his Tower trilogy written in the early sixties.

    There way well be earlier ones, these are just the random ones I've run into in my reading.

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  301. Re: Dick had alot of good ideas. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The mood drugs described in "Do androids dream of electric sheeps are almost realized (Not DOD yet, but soon I guess.)

    Dick also described something he called "Homeopages" which are quite close to what we call "Homepages" today. Don't recall exactly which books these are mentioned.

  302. Gibson. by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 1

    I would have to agree with several of my fellow geeks. Damn near anything Gibson. From coining the term 'Cyberspace', to predicting direct neural computer interfaces(?)... Not to mention spawning an entire culture.

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  303. I know... I know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    How about 1984?

  304. Shockwave Rider by RobGarth · · Score: 1

    Check out Shockwave Rider, by John Brummer. He had some amazing insights into the internet, computer viruses, network appliances, and laser printers, before any of these things were.

    Cheers,

  305. Tech by buss_error · · Score: 2
    what science-fiction novels have had a particularly noticeable effect on the development of technology?
    Waldo, Inc., Robert Heinlein. It's been mentioned several times that this book mentioned waterbeds and "waldos", remote handling devices, in this book.

    Star Trek, with the automatic sliding door with out pressure mats to make contact. (I still think those worked best, you never got hit in the ass with one of those doors.)

    Those are only the three I can think of off hand. Hope that helps.

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  306. "Prediction" by ucblockhead · · Score: 2
    Not to diss Stephanson or the book (great author, great book), but somehow I suspect that he got the idea from all the news articles discussing the potential for using bacteria to clean up oils spills that were current back than.


    Most of the SF "predictions" here are like that. SF writers taking things discussed by scientists and running with them. Stephanson's books are practically a roadmap of the scitech news articles that were published around the time they were written. For example, "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" had a lot to do with parts of both "Snow Crash" and "The Big U".

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  307. PDA's by markmoss · · Score: 2

    In addition to his 1945 idea about communications satellites, Arthur C. Clarke was probably also the first to describe something like a PDA. Imperial Earth has a quite detailed description of a hand-held device for voice, mail, and video communications, appointments, etc. Where it differs significantly from present-day devices, I suspect the technology is just not there yet. I'm not sure about the publication date but IIRC I read it in the 70's.

  308. Bullshit. Heinlein didn't invent shit.... by joshamania · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Just because he came up with an idea in a book doesn't mean he "invented" anything. The guy who invented the waldoe was the guy charged with manipulating nuclear material, but decided if he did it with his hands, he'd die.

    Science fiction writers are not scientists. Some scientists write science fiction.

  309. Andromeda Strain by Merlin42 · · Score: 1

    IRC in the development of the moon lander there was a disagreement amongst the engineers about whether the module should have a slight positive pressure or slight negative pressure (relative to the TINY atmosphere of the moon). Some wanted to prevent 'contaminating' the moon with microbes or dust from earth, while the other camp was afraid of an 'Andromeda Strain'. And again IIRC the positive pressure camp won. This was partly b/c of social pressure to avoid events similar to those in Chrighton's book. This is a clear case of the social implications of SF on technology.

  310. Contact by Mr_Huber · · Score: 1
    IIRC, while writing Contact, Asamov passed along a draft to noted physicist Kip Thorne (the guy that Stephen Hawkings makes those bets with) for a sanity check. Originally, Asimov had his explorers being whisked away by a machine generating a rotating black hole. Kip hated the idea and argued that nothing could withstand the tidal forces. Instead, he proposed the machine create a wormhole. A fairly novel idea at the time.

    Kip became so intrigued with the idea of a wormhole that he began working out the mathematics of how to open and traverse a wormhole. Eventually, he discovered mathematics describing how to build a time machine out of a wormhole. When he published these findings, it touched off a round of scientific investigation on the possibility of creating a wormhole and the mechanics of a real time machine.

    The entire story is written up at the end of Thorne's book Black Holes and Time Warps: Einstein's Outrageous Legacy.

    1. Re:Contact by lokitoothus · · Score: 1

      Just wanted to point out for those who might want to read it that Carl Sagan wrote Contact, not Asimov. Wonderful book.

    2. Re:Contact by Mr_Huber · · Score: 1

      Doh! Sorry about that. Still recovering from the long weekend, I guess.

  311. Only partly true by ucblockhead · · Score: 2
    Don't go entirely on the date "Neuromancer" was published. Gibson published a number of short stories in the late seventies, early eighties that were set in his "universe". (The most famous of these was "Johnny Mnemonic", which had some of the same characters and inspired of crappy movie.) See "Burning Chrome".


    Vinge's depictions of hacker culture were far more accurate, though.

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    The cake is a pie
  312. HG Wells by Sebastopol · · Score: 2


    I can't believe no one brought up HG Wells yet, so I'll make an esoteric reference.

    In "The New Accelerator", a short story, Wells proposes an elixer that speeds up metabolism to the point where people see the world around them slow to a crawl (bees' wings flapping, pitch of marching band slowing down, etc.)

    See the parallels to modern drugs like crystal which didn't exist then.

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  313. most missed prediction: PC industry by peter303 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One could ask the inverse question: what technology was most unpredicted by scifi writers? The I would vote for the personal computer. Until the early 1970s, computers seemed to be going the direction of becoming larger and more central. We had stories about wayward supercomputers like the Forbin Project, 2001 HAL, and the story that spawned the Terminator movies ("I have no mouth and I must scream!") The idea that everyone would own a computer, or hundred or more hidden in cars and appliances, seemed outlandish when they cost a hundred years' salary or more. And whole new segments of human culture- computer stores, software writing companies, games, geekdom, etc.

    If anyone came close to predicting this, it may have been Asimov. I recall a short story (in Nine Tomorrows?) about a society entirely dependent on PDA devices. When a savant comes along who can do arithmetic in his head, then that society goes into chaos.

    Another close Asimov prediction are his robot plantations where armies of robots do all kinds of labor. In some sense the all of embedded CPUs are like this army.

    1. Re:most missed prediction: PC industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read some Philip K. Dick for examples of small, embedded devices. I forget the novel, but in one, the protagonist is constantly hounded (as is everyone) by small mobile computers trumpeting wares. Also, his car hassles him, and he doesn't have a great relationship with his coffee maker. Wish I could remember the title...

    2. Re:most missed prediction: PC industry by ScottMaxwell · · Score: 1
      the story that spawned the Terminator movies ("I have no mouth and I must scream!")

      Right author, wrong story. It was mainly Harlan Ellison's "Soldier" and his Outer Limits episode "Demon With a Glass Hand" that inspired The Terminator. The connection between The Terminator and Ellison's "IHNM&IMS" is weaker -- see The Terminator FAQ or a bazillion other links.

      Just wanted to set the record straight.

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  314. Math by hand? That's impossible! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    As in the story where everyone depends on calculators and doing math by hand is revolutionary

    I'll wait until I can get a calculator implanted into my brain.

  315. Disch by epepke · · Score: 1

    You're right, it's Thomas Disch. Still fairly recent: 1998. Amazon has it here.

  316. Ender's Game by micromoog · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Orson Scott Card in Ender's Game describes (in 1977) a very realistic laptop computer/PDA with a touchscreen and wireless network. Ender enjoys instant messaging and email with his friends, and plays a 3D-animated RPG similar to EverQuest on the machine.

  317. Ender's Game by Jester99 · · Score: 1

    This book was genius. Before the internet existed, he conceptualized a version strikingly similar to what we have today. "Newsnets" are exactly like USENET is. Email. Instant Messaging. Anonymous monikers divorced from your real name.

    The tablet-computer "desks" in the book had a great deal of functionality we take for granted today, and given that the book was written FAR before these technologies became popular, I think Orson Scott Card was really a visionary.

  318. Exploration of Mars by RobertFisher · · Score: 2
    One interesting and ongoing theme connecting science fiction and science fact is the exploration of Mars.

    There is a direct and long tradition of back-and-forth feedback between Martian science fiction and fact : Mars has long held the popular imagination, since Schiaprelli's phrase "canali" was mistranslated as "channels" and led to the classic H.G. Wells novel (and later radio broadcast) War of the Worlds.

    The science fiction tradition continued from Edgar Rice Borroughs' pulp science fiction Martian novels to Ray Bradbury's Martian Chronicles to Kim Stanley Robinson's Red Mars, Blue Mars, Green Mars novels. This continuous thread of Martian fiction, which feeds upon the most recent science information, and in turn inspires future generations of scientists to pick up the investigation. For instance, Carl Sagan noted his fascination with the Borroughs novels as a youth with the Borroughs novels. Later he became a project scientist at JPL working on the Viking missions, whose data were used extensively in Robinson's novels.

    With the recent discoveries suggesting the presence of liquid water on the Martian surface in the past, as well as the possibility of life on Mars, this theme is more relevant today than ever. Robinson's novels will likely fuel the imagination of the next generation of astronomers and astronauts...

    Bob

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    1. Re:Exploration of Mars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kim Stanley Robinson's Red Mars / Blue Mars / Green Mars were for me at least quite influential in that while no specific devices or technologies were especially novel, it nevertheless portrayed an integrated context for the application of many technologies like nanotech, bioengineering, aerobraking oort-cloud-objects (for adding to martian atmosphere), AI, gerontology, etc etc.
      My point being that the tapestry of goals and tools was inspiring, just as Neuromancer or Snow Crash were inspiring in their day, or Feyman's famous motivational speech (196x?) about nanotech ('plenty of room at the bottom') was concerning molecular engineering..

  319. I think it was "A Feeling Of Power" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the Asimov story about "graphitics"

  320. John Brunner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    John Brunner coined the phrase "worm" long before there was an "internet" and "internet worms".

    I believe he also foretold of the "facsimile" machine to transmit paper documents over the phone in the mid 50s to early 60s.

  321. 2001 inspired a generation of scientists by peter303 · · Score: 2

    Star Trek and 2001 A Space Odyssey were developed at the same time- the mid sixties, a couple years before the moon landing. Star Trek was clearly fictional, yet fun entertainment. However, 2001 technology was so believable, with its references to corporations like Pan Am and ATT that it made us taste space and desire it. It made many of believe that could really happen in the new millennium (except for the alien stuff).

  322. Ray Bradbury & E.M. Forster by Dennis+G.+Jerz · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Ray Bradbury's stories predicted VR and the decadent state of TV news. E.M. Forster, writing almost a hundred years ago, imagined a world in which people stayed at home in ergonomic pods, communicating remotely with a vast community of strangers.

    Ray Bradybury's short story, "The Veldt," is about parents who worry that their children are spending too much time in a holodeck-style entertainment room. (OK, the holodeck is still science fiction, but Bradbury aptly defines the anti-videogames suburban hysteria that crops up in the media from time to time.)

    His 1953 novel _Fahrenheit 451_ features interactive talk shows and soap operas, projected on wall-sized TV screens. It describe the protagonist's wife obsessing about upgrading her equipment (buying an attachment that will make it look like characters in the TV shows are speaking her name, thus including her in the experience). He also predicted O.J.-style helocopter chases. From a Salon interview with Bradbury:

    • One "Fahrenheit 451" prediction was the technological evolution, and moral devolution, of television news. In the novel, a fireman protagonist accused of hiding illegal books is pursued by a carnivorous news media seeking to satiate the blood lust of home viewers. As the fireman flees down the street, chased by helicopters, he sees himself through his neighbors' windows, running on their television screens.


    • The day after news helicopters pursued O.J. Simpson fleeing in a Ford Bronco, a New York Times columnist noted that the chase was the "real-life fulfillment" of "Fahrenheit 451."


    I'm saving the best for last...

    E.M. Forster's "The Machine Stops" describes a future civilization in which all but the lowest classes associate with each other chiefly via long-distance communications devices, rather than in person. In this passage, a woman has just spent three minutes disconnected from the network in order to speak privately to her son. She logs back on (so to speak), and is assaulted by a flood of incoming messages.

    • Vashanti's next move was to turn off the isolation switch, and all the accumulations of the last three minutes burst upon her. The room was filled with the noise of bells, and speaking-tubes. What was the new food like? Could she recommend it? Has she had any ideas lately? Might one tell her one"s own ideas? Would she make an engagement to visit the public nurseries at an early date? - say this day month.


    • To most of these questions she replied with irritation - a growing quality in that accelerated age. She said that the new food was horrible. That she could not visit the public nurseries through press of engagements. That she had no ideas of her own but had just been told one-that four stars and three in the middle were like a man: she doubted there was much in it. Then she switched off her correspondents, for it was time to deliver her lecture on Australian music.

      The clumsy system of public gatherings had been long since abandoned; neither Vashti nor her audience stirred from their rooms. Seated in her armchair she spoke, while they in their armchairs heard her, fairly well, and saw her, fairly well. She opened with a humorous account of music in the pre Mongolian epoch, and went on to describe the great outburst of song that followed the Chinese conquest. Remote and primæval as were the methods of I-San-So and the Brisbane school, she yet felt (she said) that study of them might repay the musicians of today: they had freshness; they had, above all, ideas. Her lecture, which lasted ten minutes, was well received, and at its conclusion she and many of her audience listened to a lecture on the sea; there were ideas to be got from the sea; the speaker had donned a respirator and visited it lately. Then she fed, talked to many friends, had a bath, talked again, and summoned her bed.


    Bear in mind, Forster was writing in 1909! Here's one online copy of the text:
    http://brighton.ncsa.uiuc.edu/~prajlich/forster.ht ml
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  323. A Logic Named Joe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Historical Premonitions of the Information Superhighway - The Net: Post-Logic

    Written in 1946, the story referenced in this article was very similar to modern conceptions of the Internet

  324. Ender's Game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Orson Scott Card wrote about posting on the 'nets' way back in 77. I think it's the earliest, and most amazing, reference to our current usage of forums on the internet.

  325. Metropolis ? by mrv · · Score: 1

    I recall hearing that several "futuristic" themes used in Fritz Lang's 1927 movie Metropolis (co-released with the book by Thea von Harbou) have since come true. The main item that I recall from the movie is video phones.

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  326. Brave New World by madmagic · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Selanit asked:

    So here's my question: what science-fiction novels have had a particularly noticeable effect on the development of technology? I'm mainly interested in books that have been written since World War II. The line of inquiry is not limited to computers; any kind of link between sci-fi and hard tech will do (e.g. Cap'n Kirk's communicator == prototype mobile phone). Books that have lent a name to a technology are also interesting (like the 'Little-Endian, Big-Endian' terms which were lifted from Gulliver's Travels, or 'Babel Fish' from Douglas Adams)."


    Despite your post-WWI and hard-tech parameters, I'd advise looking at Aldous Huxley's 'Brave New World.' The social engineering themes in the novel tend to get the most attention, but he also had some early visions of biotech -- bottle babies, pre-'birth' physical manipulation of embryos for intelligence, character and physical attributes -- and the widespread use of approved mood-altering drugs. It's a short line of descent from those ideas to birth technologies now in use -- and from Soma to Prozac. [TM]

    BNW was also much closer than Orwell's 1984 at predicting the future, IMO. Like the best of Gibson's and John Brunner's dystopic novels, BNW has both the social and technical threads needed to weave the believable fabric of a future world.

    -Patrick

    "We haven't any use for old things here." - Aldous Huxley, ibid.
  327. Re:English Major Idiot by hairport77 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    very wet of you . . . as in blanket.

  328. Scientology by Ender+Ryan · · Score: 2
    Scientology was started with bogus psychology, bogus science, and really, really bad science fiction.

    The reason Scientology still exists today is because they prey on the poor, downtrodden, and the very weak minded(eg. John Travolta, listen to him talk sometime, he's a real dumbfuck).

    The day of the Sept. 11 attacks they got a "help line" broadcasted on television on a couple stations by duping the stations into thinking they were a non-profit charity. When the stations found out it was Scientology they were pulled.

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  329. US "Star Wars" project by peter303 · · Score: 2

    Does anyone know who first used the term in the Reagan administration? It was certainly inspired by the first two Star Wars movies (1977 & 1980).

    Edward Teller (who has a new autobiography) and Ronald Reagan touted it in the 1980s, and every president thereafter to some degree. The proximate cause was the first working X-ray laser by Peter Hagelstein in the last 1979s. It has become one of the most expensive, long-run military projects, with dubious results.

  330. Re:I'm working on a project that is somewhat relat by garcia · · Score: 2

    it approached the topic in a different fashion. It had too much serousness for me. I think Kubrick came out w/a far better flick.

  331. The automatic doors by b1t+r0t · · Score: 2
    I remember long ago reading about how some rich guy contacted the Star Trek folks and asked them how the doors worked. You see, he was going to build a rich guy's house, and wanted those doors. He was rather disappointed to find out that they were operated by stagehands, and sometimes (to the dismay of Shatner's nose) not operated by stagehands.

    So apparently he went and had somebody invent automatic pocket doors that worked.

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  332. First person to think of it doesn't mean invention by vbprgrmr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think there is some confusion by the guy seeking the books or stories with first references to ideas of invention.

    Just because they thought of the idea first, doesn't mean that the scientists or engineers who implemented that idea, ever read or were influenced by the writer.

    I think what the student is attempting to research is based on faulty logic.

  333. What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    boo. you're either misreading Borges or you're so damn genius that obscure connections are too below you to describe to the rest of us. I'm guessing the former.

    I can see a case being made for GPS units -- but MapQuest??? ... Please elaborate.

    fxxx.

    1. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can see a case being made for GPS units -- but MapQuest??? ... Please elaborate.

      Simple, a computer based system can achieve a one-to-one scale map just like in Borges story....

  334. Wonderful Liturature - Too Early To Tell by Liza · · Score: 2
    The Phillip Pullman series The Golden Compass, The Subtle Knife, and the The Amber Spyglass is the best sf/fantasy series I have read in a very long time.

    It doesn't fit perfectly within your course description, as all three are recently published, but their premise of elementary particles as being original sin is facinating. And they have fantastic communications and other tools that I would love to see develop in the future -- the althiometer, the lodestone reasonator....

    These books are also chock full of complex allusions and interesting nuances English majors live for -- think of them as Narnia stories for the modern humanist. Totally readable as stories, but more complex should the reader care to dig in more deeply.

    Liza

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  335. Jonathan Swift predicted Phobos and Deimos by Glog · · Score: 1

    It is widely acknowledged that Jonathan Swift predicted the existance of the two Mars satellites: Phobos and Deimos. Although the two moons were not discovered until 1877, Jonathan Swift had written in 1720 (in Gulliver's Travels, chapter 3) that the inhabitants of Laputa had made important astronomical observations of 10 000 fixed stars and of the two satellites of Mars, one orbiting with a period 10 hours and the other with a period of 21 hours. This is pretty spooky for a prediction!

    Also, Sir Arthur Clarke is considered the inventor of the geostationary satellites.

  336. Re:Novels have no effect upon scientific developme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, Science Fiction may have negative impact on scientific progress. Doing real science is almost always hard meticulous work. You set up a hypothesis, you then spend a lot of time gathering data to support your hypothesis.

    'Science Fiction' teaches kids that it's all flashy fun, sort of a space western.

    An analogy would be the way modern computers and console games discourage kids from getting into programming. What's the use in a 7 year old firing up a Basic interpreter (or a C compiler) when there is no chance in hell that he'll do anything with it nearly as exciting as he can do by plugging a disc into his console?

  337. Re:Novels have no effect upon scientific developme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You right.

    The sci-fi fans are the fat Cheeto munching dorks who read too much SF and comix and flunk out of Geometry in eighth grade. The kids with motivation are taking math and science courses.

    It's much the same with hacking code. Only the burnouts spend their summer in mom's basement pounding away at code. The fun kids are out discovering girls, or skateboards, or both.

    The 'dreamers' reading all the SF are the future pot smokers. The janitors, the sysadmins and computer operators. The telephone sanitizers.

  338. Cliff! Pls take this out of the "science" catagory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a common misunderstanding of the relationship between science and technology that your title so nicely displays. This story is about science fiction affecting technology, but you titled it "Science Fiction into Scientific Fact." This is not what the story is about.

    Technology is not science. Technology is the application of science. Strangely enough, the New York Times seems to be one of the only places that gets this right by publishing the Science Times on Tuesdays and Circuits on Thursdays.

    I'm not trying to be a troll (although I forsee a -1 troll in my future :) but I don't want to find technology in the science section!

  339. AC's 3 rule of trollbotics: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. A troll must not allow a thread to go undisrupted, or through inaction, leave a thread undisrupted.
    2. A troll must be subtle except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
    3. A troll must protect its own karma as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law
  340. Edgar Rice Burroughs: aeronatical NDB by father_of_the_Rowan · · Score: 1

    Writing in the Princess of Mars series he describes flying craft equipped with a directional needle that can be set to point to a desired destination -- then it's just follow the needle, guys. Any pilot will recognize this as a description of the NDB which has saved thousands of planes and lives over the decades. This is the same Burroughs who invented Tarzan, writing in the early part of last century. The NDB came into wide-spread use in the 40's and 50's of the same century. Notes: NDB confusingly stands for Non-Directional Beacon which refers to the radio station it gets tuned to. This also differentiates it from the VOR which gives a different sort of indication -- to make sense out of that one, you have to know were the radio beacon is located.

  341. Re:First person to think of it doesn't mean invent by joshamania · · Score: 2

    Here, here! Finally, a logical voice in this cloud of idiocy!

  342. High-tech authors by HalfWalker · · Score: 1

    There are three authors I would find to be amazingly good at the development of technology, and I'm sure that everyone else here would have three *other* choices. But these are mine, and I like them :)

    1) William Gibson. Neuromancer. Although he really didn't (and apparently still doesn't) know much at all about computers, he has a crystalline method of prose that stands out. His descriptions of the technology are vivid, but in a protagonist-situation sense. He doesn't describe the computers in detail, but as tools being used in a societal environment. Awesome.

    2) David Drake. Hammer's Slammers books. Some of the best military science fiction around. David Drake was a commander I believe in the only tank regiment in Vietnam, and writes from some experience. His descriptions of where military hardware can go, and more importantly, how it can be used, anregreat. You get drawn right in to the "of course this is what warfare will/can look like".

    3) Best for last, but probably too much for a course. Peter F. Hamilton. The Night's Dawn trilogy. Actually 6 books in the US. This set has it all - Neurotech, biotech, genetic engineering, high-tech. And it pretty much all seems like it really could happen. The first book takes a while to get into, but then you can't put them down. The universe, and the technology that makes it all work, are described in a very cool seamless way, and it all seems to make sense. A very black/white choice here. Some people loved the books, others can't stand them. But then, that makes it interesting, doesn't it ?

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  343. Your statement is easily disproved. by Medievalist · · Score: 2
    /.
    The Apollo LEM was originally designed with spikes on the tips of the landing legs. In response to Arthur C. Clarke's novel "A Fall of Moondust" those spikes were (frantically, at the last minute) redesigned to become the familiar mushroom-like pads.

    You must independently verify this if you wish to follow the scientific method. Don't worry, it's not hard to do.

    Therefore, a novel (ACC's aFoM) has had an effect on a scientific development (the creation of a viable moon lander), therefore, your statement (Novels have no effect upon scientific development) is incorrect.

    Another way to disprove your premise is to call NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena. JPL has a friendly public relations group who will probably be quite willing to share with you the details of their collaborations with science fiction authors. I believe Niven, Clarke, and Pournelle have all been guests of JPL at times.

    Here's a clip from a NASA site for you:
    Copies of Blueprint for Space: Science Fiction to Science Fact (Smithsonian Institution Press, 1992), are now available again. Edited by Frederick I. Ordway III and Randy Liebermann, this Emme Award-winning publication has a prologue by Michael Collins and an epilogue by Arthur C. Clarke. It is profusely illustrated with black&white and color, and is divided into four major parts: "From Dreams to Reality," "Rocketry and Space Flight," "The Golden Age of Space Travel," and "Where Do We Go from Here?" Among the contributors are science fiction writers, former astronauts, educators, a former NASA administrator, astronomers, and leaders in many aspects of the space program. Copies are now available for $11.80 plus $3.20 for priority mail postage, for a total of $15 per copy. It was originally sold for $24.95. Checks should be sent to Frederick I. Ordway III, 2401 N. Taylor Street, Arlington, VA 22207.
  344. Heinlein describes the waterbed thing... by summitbound · · Score: 1

    Read _Expanded Universe_, pages 516 - 517. Heinlein says the first guy to build a waterbed sent him one, free, courtesy of the "Share Water Bed Company." Seems the builder of the first waterbed knew exactly where the invention came from.... Drew

  345. Re:Novels have no effect upon scientific developme by Pseudonym · · Score: 2

    Oh, I dunno. Tom Clancy predicted using a hijacked plane loaded with fuel as a bomb years before it was put into production. That's got to be worth something.

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  346. John Brunner by jgman · · Score: 1

    I have read several comments extolling neuromancer and snow crash. While I highly enjoyed those novels, and in the case of neuromancer, the old C-64 game, I think that the most prophetic work on the sociological impact of modern networking is from John Brunner. His novel Shockwave Rider far predates Neuromancer, yet is seldom recognized.

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  347. someone mod me up! by sledd_1 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I've got an original one:
    'Survivor' is nothing more than Niven/Pournelle's Dream Park series...

    wooo-haa

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  348. Asimov's PhD by nixterino · · Score: 1

    Imm not sure his PhD was honorary. Several biographies state that he was awarded a PhD in 1948 from Columbia University.

    Additionally, he was a professor of Biochemistry at Boston University - it's unlikely that he was given a research position for his fund-raising abilities.

    1. Re:Asimov's PhD by craigarc · · Score: 1

      Don't forget he was one of the people working on a Navy program called R.A.D.A.R. which was very top-secret at the time. Considering the company he was in at the time I do not think they would allow anyone with only an honorary degree into that program. (Not to mention that the story of the member of the Doctoral board asked about the properties Thiotimoline while defending his Ph.D is a classic). Just for the record, his Doctoral Thesis actually involved the rxn of Tyrosinase During catalysis of the Aerobic Oxidaiton of Catechol...

    2. Re:Asimov's PhD by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      IIRC he did have a PhD in chemistry, not to be confused with Robert Heinlein's Chemical Engineer wife.

      Or maybe I'm totally confused on all this...

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  349. A new .sig quote! Thanks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...specifically, the Second Law. Email me, kjvt@hotmail.com, if you want credit. (What's a little more spam?)

  350. Star Trek in real Life by J.J. · · Score: 1

    The Physics of Star Trek, by Lawrence Krauss, a Physics professor at CWRU.

    Cheers,
    J.J.

  351. Isn't that what science fiction is all about? by burts_here · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I thought that science fiction was about predicting the future, sci-fi usually has gadgets, the best work is originall work , volla, original gadgets...!!! hehe!!!
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  352. References? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    References?

  353. Asimov by WinterSolstice · · Score: 1

    The man who gave us Robotics, Androids, and the three immutable Laws of Robotics.

    Amusing stuff, really, but he did coin the term Robot, if I recall correctly.

    There are a couple of other greats, such as Buckminster Fuller, but I guess he isn't really sci-fi. He gave us shopping mall doors (the automatic kind), and ATM machines.

    According to a friend attached to NASA, the countdown from 10 is attributed to Flash Gordon.

    And, lest we forget, Philip K Dick, author of such things as "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" (done in the movie Bladerunner).

    Also, Arthur C. Clarke invented the HAL9000, which gave us a computer that was capable of handling a space mission, while most computers were still just figuring out how to add up large number sets. Many current scientific endeavours are named after HAL.

    Just a few more bits.
    -WS

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  354. Machine Stops by snerdy · · Score: 1

    E. M. Forrester's (rather bitter) short story "The Machine Stops" has clear descriptions of a device later called "television." The story was written in 1909.

    http://www.plexus.org/forster/

    Okay!
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  355. Re:Novels? TV? Film? Influence or just Foreshadowi by WinterSolstice · · Score: 1

    Let's not forget his shoe answering machine, in "The Nude Bomb". That one was of the funniest little bits I recall from my childhood.

    -WS

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  356. "Foundation" - the rise of religious power by dunng808 · · Score: 1

    In "Foundation" Asimov describes the rise of religious power as scientific knowledge is lost, and the use of religion to control
    ignorant populations. I see a striking parallel with Afghanistan and other religious extremist societies, regardless of nationality or
    religious denomination. But Asimov failed to predict the change in the
    role of women in modern society, limiting himself to an all-male cast
    better suited to a Raymond Chandler novel. So, nobody's perfect.

    To what extent Asimov's views on religion influenced the Taliban in
    outlawing T.V. is difficult to say. Even though the Taliban leadership
    may not have read Foundation, the series has had an undeniable
    influence on so many people that the second order effects could be
    considerable. Could it just be prediction, without any influence on
    that which it predicts, or has quantum mechanics raised its hand? We
    ought to consider a world in which increasing numbers of people turn
    their back on technology and resort to faith.

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  357. Arthur C Clarke by PhoenxHwk · · Score: 1

    Try reading just about everything by Arthur C Clarke. A lot of it has not come true (yet), but almost all of it is in the works by NASA, the US government, and other governments worldwide.

  358. Re:Arthur C Clarke and more by Random+Data · · Score: 1

    You get some really interesting ideas out of some of Simak's (sp?) work. City, and the cities in flight books.

    Are you sure you're not talking about James Blish?

    Amazon link

    Or are we still boycotting them over the one click thing?

  359. Re:Neuromancer and Cultural Influences by OrionBunny · · Score: 1

    ...the younger generation taking his works for granted, even un-inspired. They fail to grasp how utterly amazingly accurate many of his early 80's predictions have come to pass.

    I have a friend I love dearly, but who is not too bright... One day, he was telling me all about this great book he was reading called Neuromancer. I perked up instantly, thinking that maybe he'd decided to read something influencial (or at least a non-gaming book) for once. He goes on and one about all the cool stuff in it, and how much it's influenced everything... like Shadowrun and Cyberpunk. To him, it's fiction influencing gaming. I tried to explain to him that it influenced a good deal more than some role-playing games, but no, in his world, that's all that matters.

    For the purpose of the research, oh esteemed article poster, you might want to consider a thesis more along the lines of what has already been suggested: How SF writers' works compare with what actually occured following the advent of a certain technology. Or, alternately, explore not the influence of SF in science, but in culture. That seems like it might be more fruitful, given all the posts about robots and waterbeds and things.

    And to all those out there who think SF never inspires engineers or other people... I can vouch that it does. If I wasn't so terrible at engineering, I would seriously consider a bio-engineering career for the express purpose of putting mirrored insets over my eyes that give me readouts and to install a simstim rig in my head. :) As it is a lot of the things I'd like to make are inspired by something I've read. I've also known a lot of people who decide that something in Star Trek or what have you looks really, really cool, and sit around trying to build it. Most of the time it doesn't work, but sometimes, they end up with some very intersting toys! The point is, you'll never know someone's influences unless you ask them. If you are going to continue with your original project, you might want to try actually contacting inventors of certain technologies or reading old notes to see what did influence them. And don't forget, it's perfectly acceptable to write a thesis where the research disproves your original assumption, as long as you can give conclusive proof either way.

    And one final note... I'm curious if anyone knows this... Which came first? Gibson's Idoru and Rei Toei or the actual Japanese pop idol construct/software program Kyoko Date? The publishing date on Idoru is 1996, and I'm fairly certain Kyoko Date wasn't around until after that - but I can't find a date for Date anywhere :)

    Congratulate me on my first Slashdot post ever ^_^ I'm now one of you... I feel dirty ;p

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  360. Donald Duck by IdocsMiko · · Score: 1
    Posts so far have focused on what sci-fi writer predicted what. However, as I read it, the question is what sci-fi actually helped cause an innovation. In other words, some work of fiction that somebody read and said "hey, great idea, think I'll do it".

    My award for the winner in that category is... Donald Duck.

    In 1964 the freighter Al-Kuwait sunk to the floor of the Persian Gulf. Because the Persian Gulf is Kuwait's main water supply and because the freighter had 6,000 rotting sheep carcasses aboard this constituted a big problem. They had to get that freighter raised quickly.

    Engineer Karl Kroyer remembered reading a Donald Duck comic in which the quacky heroes raised a sunken boat by stuffing it full of ping pong balls. He thought was a pretty nifty idea, so he arranged to stuff the freighter with 27 million polystyrene bubbles... not quite ping pong balls but close enough. It worked like a charm: the freighter rose to the surface.

    Donald Duck: King of Science Fiction Makes Reality

  361. Missing the point? by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I think it was an essay by Heinlein (but may have been Asimov) that said that the important thing is not describing or anticipating future technology in SF, but rather the effect of that technology.

    E.g., if you were writing a story in 1870, descrbing how everyone would be driving around in cars in the future is amusing, but not important. How the automobile will change society by giving people a much greater range of movement is what is important.

    I'd say the biggest influence of SF on future technology has been inspirational. A lot of people involved in the space program in the 60's and 70's got hooked by reading SF, especially Heinlein's works, for example.

  362. Elf Sternberg's Journal Entries stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A guy named Elf Sternberg wrote a bunch of stories, called the "Journal Entries". I really think his vision of the future is useful. When we have true AI, I suspect that we will use it in our society in similar ways to how his characters use AI, for example.

    His stories are primarily sex stories, with some science fiction in the background. However, I found most of them more interesting for the SF than for the sex.

    In these stories, AI computer people are valued members of society. There is an etiquette of not asking computers to do things you could easily do yourself, but it isn't rude to ask computers to remind you of appointments and such. Some of the tech is interesting, such as the powered armor made of "StarkCloth"; I have recently read that something like StarkCloth might be possible within a few years, but I doubt Elf knew that when he made it up. Also, some of the descriptions of what it is like to be immortal through advanced medical technology, and what happens if only some people have it and others don't, are worth reading. And for that matter, what it's like living in a society where there are "stepping disks" (straight out of Larry Niven) everywhere; people walk everywhere, and don't use vehicles other than just for fun.

    The broad outline of the story arc is that an entity called Fawn appeared one day to a guy named Ken Shardik; she told Shardik that she had nearly unlimited powers, and she was willing to do things for him. He chose to create a ringworld (he named it "Pendor") and populate it with life. Fawn created a pocket universe, and the ringworld Pendor spent several billion years evolving creatures. Using the time-travel abilities of Fawn, they went back to the time of Rome and rescued a being called Oenone, who the Romans considered a goddess. Oenone used her powers to help along the evolution of life on Pendor. Once all was ready, Shardik used equipment provided by Fawn to produce intelligent people of various races: human, centaur, cat-human, wolf-human, skunk-human, etc. Finally, after a few decades, the ringworld's pocket universe collapsed and the ringworld and its star appeared in the same universe as Earth, and only a few light-years away. Fawn then left, and the stories after that don't have any Fawn deus-ex-machina, but are more straight SF.

    Because these are mostly sex stories, every story has explicit sexual activity: straight, gay, S&M, etc. etc. If you don't like such things, stay away. My personal favorite stories, as stories and as SF, are the two "Travellogue" series. You might want to start with those if you think you are not sure you want to read these.

    The stories appear sporadically on USENET, but you can read them from Elf's web site:

    http://www.halcyon.com/elf/journals

    Naturally this page is down right now! :-P I did find an archive with some at least of the stories:

    http://at.nifty.org/nifty/journal-entries/

  363. Transporters by Pedrito · · Score: 2

    Although they haven't been created yet, there was a story here a couple years ago about a "transporter" beam that IBM had built. It wasn't the real deal, but it was based on a similar idea, but it only did a single particle. As I recall, it used entangled pairs to accomplish its task and the original had to be destroyed as part of the process.

    I wish I still had a link to the site. It was really cool stuff.

    There's also been a great deal of science fiction leaking into stuff like the SETI programs. I think the people in SETI research picked up some good ideas about what kinds of things to look for. Again, don't have any links.

  364. "Political" fiction becoming reality faster than s by haaz · · Score: 2

    It is astonishing and frightening to watch how fast things like Orwell's 1984 and Huxley's "Brave New World" are coming true. The USA P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act, among other things (like an utterly submissive Congress) are making this happen at a record pace. Let's hope that promoters of Open Source aren't dubbed "terrorists" and tried in secret court -- which is now possible under the latest residential order...

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  365. new age of sci-fi by aslashdotaccount · · Score: 1

    i gather from the topic of your proposed work that what you're looking for doesn't necessarily have to be written works of science fiction. hence, i propose that emphasis be made on the more popular mediums of stimulus at present - for instance, the good old tube. i believe recent students of science have been more motivated from movies such as 'space odyssey 2001' than the actual book. and it's often sad that the motivational importance of theatrical work such as 'virtuosity', 'hackers' (yes, even a pitiful teen-gala such as that makes it's point), 'star wars', 'dune', and even 'space balls' (humor often carries weight) are downplayed by the nonchalance of movie critics. movies aside, what about the importance of music? everytime i listen to joe satriani's 'surfing with the alien' i miss the plane of reality and my mind goes into hyperdrive. not to mention anaema and their masterpieces such as 'H'. excellent for coding! (isn't computer science part of the bigger whole that is science?) games! all sorts of games play crucial roles in molding or motivating a young (or even a mature and 'scientific') mind. the rail guns, the plasma rifles, the translocators and what-nots. how about simulation of real space-flight? the world has changed. let's not think of literature as the main motivational force anymore. this 'brave new world' (PBU iron maiden) has a lot more to offer.

  366. Correction: Frederik Pohl by Weasel+Boy · · Score: 1

    Doggone, you are correct. Guess I'm getting senile.

  367. A book is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    10,000 leagues under the sea. == Modern submarining

  368. "Phaser on stun" is already being manufactured by GlenRaphael · · Score: 2, Informative
    A way to harmlessly paralyze people by shooting them with a laser light is under development by HSV Technologies. Currently the equipment is about as big as a suitcase, but most of that is battery; as the tech improves we'll surely have hand-held phasers soon enough. The suitcase-sized ones are expected to be sold to military and law enforcement agencies sometime next year.

    According to the manufacturer's site:

    HSV Technologies Inc., of San Diego, California is developing a non-lethal weapon that uses ultraviolet laser beams to harmlessly immobilize people and animals at a distance. The Phaser-like device uses two beams of UV radiation to ionize paths in the air along which electrical current is conducted to and from the target. In effect, the beams create wires through the atmosphere wherever they are pointed.

    The current within these beams is a close replication of the neuro-electric impulses that control skeletal muscles. It is imperceptible to the target person because it differs from his own neural impulses only in that its repetition rate is sufficiently rapid to tetanize muscle tissue. (Tetanization is the stimulation of muscle fibers at a frequency which merges their individual contractions into a single sustained contraction.)

    They have an FAQ, and the tech is covered by US Patent #5,675,103.
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  369. Good Example: Heinlein and Waterbeds by starfoxmac · · Score: 2, Informative

    In "Stranger in a Strange Land," in the early section where the protagonist is being held prisoner in the hospital, Heinlein describes a woman recovering in some special kind of bed, I believe designed to reduce stress on the bodies of recovering patients lying in bed for long periods of time. I've read somewhere that this was the direct origin of the concept of the waterbed. Two minutes of research later, I say this: check the link in this post. More Google searching for "heinlein waterbed" suggests that people were actually denied patents by the USPTO for waterbeds because Heinlein had put the idea in the public domain first.

  370. books to check out by Demonix · · Score: 0

    Well, for starters there's neuromancer by William Gibson, where he describes the Net as 'a concensual hallucination'. Only difference is, you can jack in directly to the net. Interesting social development too, as well as multinational corps, law enforcement, etc. that deal with advancing computer/AI technology.

    In a similar vien, you can check out the Cyberpunk 2020 role-playing game books. Aside from cybernetic implants (and lots of em) there are also items/ides involving biological manipulation/modification (natural gills, tails, claws, etc.), Full cybernetic body replacement where the brain and a few organs are transplanted into a mechanical body, as well as small scale mecha/exoskeltal suits.

    Starship troopers makes some mention of power armor, but warhammer 40k may be a better source...Starship Troopers had a more sociologic focus.

    Hell, that's all I can think of off the top of my head...good luck!

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  371. You guys drive me bonkers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I started reading this thread I was excited to see what other pieces of literature were deemed influential on technology. Damned if most poeple didn't get off subject by confusing "first wrote about" with "influenced" Just because John McObsurity first published a book 200 years ago about the possiblity of a submarine wouldn't detract from the fact the Joules Verne's book was the influencial work, because of popularity.

    To sum up:
    Joules Verne
    Arthur C. Clark
    William Gibson

    others??

    All very very influencial in contributing to technological advancement.

  372. Good books on the subject by elblanco · · Score: 1

    Try
    "The Dreams Our Stuff is Made Of" by
    Thomas M. Disch, It's a good read and really covers almost the entire spectrum of Sci-Fi and most of the important authors/novels etc. Well referenced and labeled. Maybe a good companion book for the course to go along with the regular readings.

  373. Oh well then.... by BillyGoatThree · · Score: 2

    ...I guess we should just take it at face value.

    It seems obvious to me that his project is actually "find a bunch of scifi predictions that came true" and he's wrapped his fake assignment around that in a simple ploy that would only fool an idiot. Fortunately for him, that's all he needed.

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  374. Babble Fish by gandalph20 · · Score: 1

    Just Like to make a point. Babble was not a term coined by Douglus Adams. Babble is actaully reference from the Bible as in the Tower of Babble. Don't ask me the actual biblical reference as I do not know it. G

    1. Re:Babble Fish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're all very impressed with your obviously immense grasp of theological literature, as well as your terrific spelling ability.

      Douglas Adams, however, DID coin the term "Babel Fish" many years ago from which the current translational web site hosted by Alta Vista is named. Where Mr. Adams got the original phrase is irrelevant.

  375. 1984 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    George Orwell's 1984 would be a great one to read. It contains the first reference to credit cards, as well as Big Brother, which became a buzzword with anti-government protestors and hackers alike.

  376. Look at H.G. Wells The Shape of Things to Come by mendepie · · Score: 1

    This story (and the 1936 movie) are amazing in the number of devices that are described well before their time.

    This includes global war, helecopters, space craft, and a lot of other intresting things.

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  377. Well, he _did_ invent Susan Calvin by leonbrooks · · Score: 2

    There was a birth notice for her in the Sydney Morning Herald on the appropriate day in 1980, one of the doctors thanked for helping with her delivery was ``Asimov.''

    Susan Calvin is a character from Asimov's ``Robots'' series who is a whiz-bang robot, uh, psychologist.

    Asimov spent much more time being loud and assertive than inventing stuff like Heinlen and Clarke did, and he missed some very significant points of chemistry and physics in his non-fiction-ish works like ``The Left Hand of the Electron.'' He did, however, write a *lot* of words!

    The invention that I'm waiting to see implemented is skyhooks AKA inside-out orbiting bridges, as in ``The Fountains of Paradise.''

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  378. Not just satellites... by suprslackr420 · · Score: 1

    A. C. Clarke has had many interesting ideas. His book, "July 20, 2019" contains many interesting theories aboutwhat might be happening on that date in the future. In "Childhood's End", Clarke mentions the use of a "facsimile machine" that the Overlords use to communicate wih the aliens. During his time spent as an officer in the Royal Air Force, he was in charge of the first radar talk-down equipment experiments. The procedure, known as "Ground Controlled Approach," was the subject of A. C. C.'s nonfiction book "Glide Path." There are many other instances of "prediction" in Clarke's 100+ books. The Rama series of books is a great read, I highly recommend them. Hope this helps. Oh, yeah, I believe that in "2001," he described a deceleration technique using a planet's atmosphere that has actually been used in a few space missions. Any extra info on this (or correction) would be great.

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  379. Dr. Victor Frankenstein and Robot friends by BoBaBrain · · Score: 1

    I believe Mary Shelly's doctor was the first to perform transplant operations. Am I wrong?
    To go further back, Vulcan, the roman god of metalurgy, had a bevvy of solid gold slaves long before RUR was ever written.

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  380. PDAs and The Mote in God's Eye by kallen3 · · Score: 1

    Even though PDAs were already around when Niven and Pournelle wrote this book they described their use in a wireless network to take attendance in meetings and to conduct them. At the time when the book was written PDAs were just glorified address books.

  381. Looking Backward by Edward Bellamy by wellwellwell · · Score: 1

    "Looking Backward: 2000-1887" is a classic predictive SF novel. It is a Rip Van Winkle type story where a man in the 1800's sleeps in his basement and wakes in the year 2000. There are more reference to existing modern technologies here than all of the other works mentioned so far put together.

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  382. Antecedents of the Star Trek communicator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The TV series "The Man from U.N.C.L.E." (pre Star Trek) used transceivers in both cigarette case and pen and pen form factors.

    The old Dick Tracy newspaper cartoon featured a two-way wrist radio (succeeded in later years by the two-way wrist TV).

  383. John Brunner's "Shockwave Rider" by geoswan · · Score: 1
    As another reader noted, it is a darned good read. I read that it was one of Rob Morris jr's favourite works...

    Gene Spafford's Rob Morris FAQ

  384. In Reply to Accusations Regarding Arthur C. Clarke by suprslackr420 · · Score: 1

    It was alleged by unscrupulous journalists that Mr. Clarke molested or raped boys. They were forced to rescind their allegations when it was found they had no evidence. If anyone does in fact have evidence, ie. pictures, affidavits, a confession from Mr. Clarke, I would challenge them to come forward with it. Until such a time, I will consider you charlatans and trolls of the lowest order. This should make you feel very special.

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  385. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Everything2 by Vegan+Pagan · · Score: 3, Funny

    The web site www.Everything2.com seems just like how Douglas Adams described the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: full of information about everything, but often silly and informal.

  386. Shockwave Rider, by John Brunner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shockwave Rider, by John Brunner was published in (I beleive) 1978. Anticipated the worldwide information network and many other technologies.

    Door Into Summer, by Heinlein, would be a good source - the main character is an inventor who founds a company that markets robotic household devices. I'm sure some of them have been developed.

  387. Yikes! by MarkusQ · · Score: 1
    You are right of course; I stand corrected. As soon as I read your post I started kicking myself.

    Thanks for catching it.

    -- MarkusQ

  388. A must-read by toganet · · Score: 1

    A definite must-read for someone of your professed interests is
    Future Perfect : American Science Fiction of the Nineteenth Century by Howard Bruce Franklin

    It's sort of a history of the genre with a great selection of the early, influential works that really inspired the whole SF thing. Great commentary too.

    Your University library should have it.

    If they don't... transfer.

    Just my $0.02.

  389. Waldo and Magic inc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try "Waldo and Magic inc" by Henlin
    The main character used "Mechanical, remote hands" to manipulate large things at a distance.... Hence the name for "Waldos" used in industry today.
    The book was first published in 1940 or so.

  390. Non-Fiction Reading by ajmfreefall · · Score: 1

    These are not sci-fi, but they should provide great insight for your subject area: Open Sky, by Paul Virilio The Illusion of the End, by Jean Baudrillard Digital Delirium, by Arthur and Marilousi Kroker

  391. Did "Avatar" come from Snow Crash? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just wondering if Neal Stephenson coined the term "avatar" to refer to a person's representation in virtual reality. I note when browsing around www.activeworlds.com that a lot of the virtual reality technology and interface used on the site (which is probably the largest currently in existence) has been lifted directly out of his books. Note that they even have a "metaverse" world based quite directly on his book.

  392. Check out... by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1

    The World of Science Fiction, by (science fiction author) Lester Del Rey. It gets a little dry in places, but does a good job in defining and detailing the early years of science fiction. Rey divides the subject into 5 eras spanning from 1926 to the mid-seventies. I read this book years and years ago, but if I recall correctly there are countless examples of the subject at hand.

  393. My bad on the Internet by BillyGoatThree · · Score: 2

    For some reason I thought Friday was from the 50's or 60's. If it was 1984 he was doing a good job, but not visionary on the Internet.

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  394. Not exactly SciFi... by Bugmaster · · Score: 1

    ...But I was watching the Cartoon Network late at night (yes, I am that much of a loser), and they just happened to be showing some ancient cartoon (created around the 50s, perhaps). The cartoon was one of those cheesy "in the future, you'll be able to..." dealies. In there, they mocked the idea of a small stove (which basically looks like an empty box with dials on the front) that magically cooks any kind of food in minutes. That magic stove, which the cartoon uses to demonstrate how ridiculous all these future predictions are, looks and functions exactly like the modern microwave oven.

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  395. A different question by Bugmaster · · Score: 1
    Slightly offtopic, but:

    A more interesting topic, IMHO, would be a summary of some major, society-altering technologies that have completely blindsided the science fiction writers. For example, someone once said (*) "The future turned out completely differently from how we envisioned it. You can't have a conversation with a computer, but you can fit it in your pocket". It's true - when "electronic brains" first became known to the popular culture, most sci-fi authors were imagining computers of the future in the same form factor, but possessing superhuman intelligence (f.ex., see the original Star Trek). The reality turned out to be quite different - small, cheap and portable computers (or microcontrollers) have revolutionized our society in a way that very few people were even able to imagine. I am sure there are more examples like that...

    (*) Sorry, I cannot remember the source... Does anyone recall the exact quote and the author ?

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  396. more from Larry Niven by constantnormal · · Score: 1

    just a few:

    automotive air bags (sorta) in "Safe at Any Speed" (1967)

    today's thriving organ transplant market fueled by Chinese prison "donors" and poor people selling kidneys was fortold in "The Jigsaw Man" (also 1967 for Harlan Ellison's "Dangerous Visions" anthology)

    The obsolescence of that same organ transplant market by the ability to produce vat-greown organs (stem cell research's future?) is dealt with pretty well in his "Known Space" series (circa 1970's)

    And today's robotic surgeons are the clear beginnings of his "autodocs".

  397. The Shockwave Rider: a prediction of the Net by Evil+Pete · · Score: 1

    John Brunner's 1975 novel "The Shockwave Rider" predicts a network of linked computers available from any point which talented users can use to change identities etc by sending programs to do their bidding ... even cleaning up their old identities with "tapeworms" ... from which we now get the term "worm".

    Remarkably prescient vision. Though not in a vacuum of course.

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  398. Re:ACC-Not Science fiction by aquisgrana · · Score: 1
    Actually Arthur Clarkes proposal for Geosynchronous satellites was published in Wireless World in 1945. This was not a science fiction story, Wireless World was and probably still is a serious technical magazine with the same sort of status in its field as say "Scientific American". Clarke had worked on radar during the war and his fictionalised account "Glideslope" gives an interesting picture of the times. So he knew enough about the properties of microwaves to come up with a credible system which only required enormous bosters that we still don't have to make it work. Apart from the insight into obtaining ocean spanning range by using the Clarke orbit, he had also realised that the high frequency of microwaves permits a high bandwidth.

    Getting onto details I am not so sure of, I don't recall that he ever tried to patent the idea, and seem to recall that he said later that he didn't expect the technology to make it possible soon enough for a patent to be worthwhile. The equipment he was familiar with of course required high power and continuous maintenance, meaning that manned stations and frequent flights to bring up spare valves/vacuum tubes would be needed. Like three ISS, but in geostationary orbit instead of LEO. The shuttle wouldn't quite make it up there.

  399. Lem by Bugmaster · · Score: 1

    Stanislaw Lem has predicted many computer technologies in his books (The Cyberiad, other books whose English names I do not know). For example, he predicted computer networks, EMP weapons, "smart dust" and nanotech in general, genetic algorithms, etc. He also predicted most of the controversy that surrounds computers to this day (especially AI), and their effect on society.

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    1. Re:Lem by alvazi · · Score: 1

      Fully agree with Bugmaster. Unfortunately, Stanislaw Lem is not very well known in the USA. Other than the things you mention he also predicted virtual reality. He is a great visionary and a great thinker, not just an SF writer.

  400. Re:Novels? TV? Film? Influence or just Foreshadowi by Evil+Pete · · Score: 1

    Or the positively ancient Dick Tracy wrist phone/TV.

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  401. Fucking Death by Steve Anderson by ahfoo · · Score: 1

    Was published in the late eighties. It sort of took off where the holodeck left off in terms of how S&M sexuality would get played out in virtual reality. It hasn't been much of an influence on technology yet, but it definitely probled issues about extremely violent and sexually explicit immersive entertainment as a form of therapy and how that might influence society.
    I haven't read anything like it since. I forgot the name of the publisher. My own English professor at SDSU, Larry McCaffery recommended it to me at the time.

  402. Michael Crichton by constantnormal · · Score: 1

    "The Terminal Man" (1972) -- implanted electronic circuits (I believe this preceded the term "microprocessors") used to control/manage disorders in the brain. Compare this to recent news stories about electronic cerebral implants being used to manage a variety of brain ailments.

  403. "London Fields" by Martin Amis by ballpeen · · Score: 1

    As a pop sci-fi reader, I call novels like "Neuromancer" and "Snow Crash" Near-Future-Fi - like Max Headroom's "20 minutes into the future..." - stories that blend the present with technological and social visions of the future that're rapidly morphing into reality, more or less, as time goes by.

    "London Fields", by kinda literary Brit author, Martin Amis, falls clearly into the Near-Future-Fi category. It's not classified as science fiction, and it doesn't really point to technological innovation. It's more of an extrapolation of the effects of the digitally-networked, media-blitzed world we're living in now. Eerily near-normal...

    Frontline conflict journalism is dead - journalists are the first targets in regional wars; living war correspondents are more often than not multiple amputees.

    The news is the weather. With no war to report on, but some sort of bizarre ecological evolution going on, extreme weather is front page violence. Weather leads the news.

    With general weirdness the order of the day, one tabloid has found a new niche - print Prozac - by covering only the cheeriest of good news.

    Turning the corner of a city block into glaring sunlight, one may be startled by the unsettling postion of the sun - was it always at that angle?

    And still, the must mundane, "normal" things are carry on. Darts, as in, the popular British pub game, are as popular as bowling is on American TV. Championship darts is just another path to fame and fortune in a modern electronic world...

    It's been a while since I've read "London Fields", and maybe my memory is putting more emphasis on the parts that struck me. And it's definitely a bit of a read, especially compared to the easy film treatment style of a lot of pop sci-fi.

    But it's definitely worth a look.

  404. Obvious Flamebait by rlp · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Of course EVERYTHING that has ever happened was predicted in the writings of either Nostradamus or [INSERT YOUR FAVORITE RELIGIOUS TEXT HERE]. :-) :-)

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  405. Heinlein invented CAD by SysKoll · · Score: 2

    In his novel "The Door into Summer", Heinlein describes an automatic drawing machine that can be used to automate a lot of the boring tasks associated with mechanical drawing. It is a draftman's dream.

    It turns out that a modern parametric CAD (Computer Assisted Design) software has a lot of the functions dreamed up by Heinlein. As for the form, RAH envisioned circuits within the body of a drawing table and some actuators for printing on paper, much like a full size blueprint plotter, instead of our modern computer with a totally non-paper work space.

    However, this idea was there. So RAH gets credit for that one too.

    -- SysKoll
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  406. See if you can find Dave Kyle's SF Histories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    David Kyle, an **early** fan (contemporary and friend of Asimov, Clarke, Piper, Leiber, ...) and founder of a small but influential early SF publishing house (Gnome Press), wrote some beautiful coffee-table books just chock full of details and gorgeous graphics. Out of print now, but if you're lucky enough to find his "A Pictorial History of Science Fiction" you will **not** be disappointed. You'll have to dig for details pertinent to your project, but you should find this to be joyous work!

    Many of the fans and authors consciously saw themselves as ushers of a new era. Hugo Gernsback was very into innovative gadgetry; John Campbell wanted to publish serious speculative stuff. If you haven't heard of it already, be sure to track down the tale of what happened when Campbell, during WW II, planned to publish a story in his magazine about an atom bomb ... and what he said (and especially didn't say) when the Feds came to talk to him about it.

    Also check out some of H.G. Wells' lesser-known stories. There's a short called "The Egg" (IIRC) that's a prequel to War of the Worlds, in which the Martians send remote-viewing devices to Earth in preparation for their in-person landing. The H.G. Wells film "Things to Come" (you can rent it at from a good video store) envisions, in 1936, the importance of air power.

    Don't forget those early years ('30s and '40s) in which authors and artists forsaw the rise of the megalopolis: skyscrapers; enormous stadiums and vast pedestrian malls; entire indoor communities; air shuttles to building tops. These visions became part of the '50s zeitgeist of Progress.

    You should also look around for books speaking directly to your topic. I can't think of any right now (getting late), but IIRC I've come across several. If there's a good used book store with a heavy SF collection nearby, go there and strike up a conversation with whoever manages their SF. If you can get your hands on copies of old SF magazines, read some to get a handle on the minds of the readers ... particularly their interest in science and technology. You may come across some columns discussing the relationship between the fiction in the magazine and the discoveries of the day. The MIT SF Club has quite a collection of early magazines. IIRC, so does the Michigan State University library. I'm sure there are others. There are also some histories of fandom (the original geek culture). You might find some details in them.

    Post your request on SF newsgroups. See if you can find sites related to first fandom, and see if you can ask your question there: those guys watched (and sometimes made) SF history happen.

    Good luck. You've got some of the most enjoyable homework I've ever heard of!

  407. The Jetsons by Bodrius · · Score: 1

    And no, I'm not joking. Just look at the Norditrack or the AbsMeister 3575 or your choice of ridiculously named excercise machines that do the work for you.

    Or, on what is periodically considered visionary, and then ridiculous, but has certainly been influential if only to waste money: Max Headroom and the omnipresence of pseudo-interactive television (although I guess the original credit might lie somewhere else).

    Running Man also reminds one of Survivor and some japanese shows.

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  408. HG Well + Atomic Bomb by Jive5 · · Score: 1

    HG Well predicted the atomic bomb in "The World Set Free", another fellow named Wigner read the story, and later heard that a chain reaction was possible. He put two and two together, decided he should warn someone and passed the message on to Einstein who in turn passed the message on to President Roosevelt. Google cached page. I'm sure you can find another reference to support this if you look around.

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  409. Fiction affects tech through the market. by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 1

    I don't think literature controls what technology is made or else asimovs repeated reference to mass drivers might have resulted in one by now.

    Rather, consider looking at books like "Brave New World" which influence people's reactions to technology. The greatest influence that a book has on technology is through the consumer/marketplace

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  410. Re:HG Wells + Atomic Bomb by Jive5 · · Score: 1

    That should be Wells, with an S. I don't know how I missed that twice.

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  411. Calculators by Micky+the+knife · · Score: 1, Informative
    Seldon removed his calculator pad from the pouch at his belt. Men said he kept one beneath his pillow for use in moments of wakefulness. Its gray, glossy finish was slightly worn by use. Seldon's nimble fingers, spotted now with age, played along the files and rows of buttons that filled its surface. Red symbols glowed out from the upper tier.

    from "Foundation" by Isaac Asimov writen in 1942

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  412. Let's give Gibson his due by clatterton · · Score: 1

    I'll grant that Gibson didn't know much about computers or networks when he wrote Neuromancer. I'll also grant that other novels have been far more prophetic and accurate.


    But let's give Gibson his due. His "Sprawl" fiction (Neuromancer, Count Zero, Mona Lisa Overdrive, Burning Chrome) had more "surface area" than any of those other novels. He sold oodles of those books, and they entered the collective consciousness like a mainline heroin shot. He folded in MTV sensibilities that ensured his books would break the "geek" stigma which plagued SF to that point.


    Gibson's prose, and his understanding of human nature, are unrivaled in the annals of SF. To read Neuromancer is to become one of his hapless characters, strugging to stay afloat in a Tofflerian Future Shock of sensory and technological overload.


    The other great thing about Gibson's novels is what I call the "Lure of the TechnoGoddess": that is, he portrayed a technology (cyberspace) so sexy that hordes of computer-science geeks were compelled to labor to bring it about -- despite Gibson's relative naivete concerning all things computational. And this despite the fact Gibson saw his own work as both humorous and dystopian.

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  413. Snow Crash @ Maxis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Snow Crash" has, I believe, been a source of inspiration to various folks at Maxis. Will Wright, IIRC, has read it and one of the other higher-up folks over there (I believe it was the General Manager, Lucy Bradshaw) told me she's read it and was inspired by it.

  414. The control room.. by T.Hobbes · · Score: 2

    I remember watching a show about a search for a US navy ship that had been sunk in the days before the end of the 2nd world war (the 'Pennsylvania', I think.. it was the ship that'd brought the a-bomb to Hawa'ii) on the discovery channel. Anyway, the pointed out during the show that the 'fire-control' systems were on the bridge of the ship.

    1. Re:The control room.. by ZPO · · Score: 1

      Pennsylvania survived the war. You are thinking of Indianapolis (Heavy Cruiser). IIRC, there was much nastiness over the incident.

      The fire control that would have been on the bridge of that era was probably a gun fire control director, or a set of instrument repeaters for az/el of turrets and ranging from the directors. There would have been another gunnery plotting area for the calculations required to put rounds on target.

    2. Re:The control room.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      IIRC, there was much nastiness over the incident.


      I was on the Indianapolis. Japanese sunk two torpedos into her sides. Our mission was so secret they didn't even send out a distress call...eleven-hundred men went into the water that day, three hundred sixteen come out, june the twenty-fourth, nineteen-fourty-five. I'll never put on a life jacket again.


      /quint


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    3. Re:The control room.. by ZPO · · Score: 1

      And if I recall correctly they tried to court martial some of the Indy crew over it. Not a good thing ...

  415. Looking Backward by Edward Bellamy by cosyne · · Score: 2

    Written in 1881, predicted streaming music over telephone lines. It's online, do a 'find in page' on chapter 11 for the word telephone. (Hmmm. chapter 11 (bankruptcy), streaming media, riaa, theres some irony in here somewhere. i can feel it.)

  416. What HGW didn't tell you about 802701 by yerricde · · Score: 2

    Of course he also established most 20th century sci-fi themes. See "The Time Machine"

    What did that predict? Precious Moments people?

    let's see... several centuries before 802701, ant people from another planet land on Earth and find the Precious Moments people (who call themselves "Eloi") living there to be easy pickings, especially compared to what happened about 800,000 years in iD4. The "Morlocks," as the ant people come to be known, set up shop underground. They begin to slaughter Eloi who have already reproduced several times.

    Then in 802701, a traveler from the past reintroduces "fire" and related technologies into the Eloi culture. After he leaves, the Eloi begin to awaken. One of them (named Colin) is the first to find out that all the food is coated with drugs to keep the Eloi people stupid ("raised to be stupid, taught to be nothing at all, I don't like the drugs but the drugs like me" -- M. Manson). While fasting, he finds that he learns much more quickly. Thus, he becomes the leader of the revolution...

    Anybody want to help me write the sequel?

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  417. Diamond Age and Shredders (nanotech smart bombs) by Wynja · · Score: 1

    In the Diamond Age nanotech shredders, bombs that enter humans, invade cells and explode are introduced. Behold the nanotech smart bombs that invade "cancer cells" and explode destroying them. www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/11/15/cancer.smart.bomb.ap /index.html Where's the mop when you need it?

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  418. There's an annual conference by f00zbll · · Score: 3, Informative
    If you haven't heard of this yet, there is a annual conference at University of California at Riverside that covers these topics. I don't know if it is still running these days, since the funding for the conference in 97 was getting pretty thin.

    There are tons of paper cover the exact topic you are exploring. A Comparative literature professor is an expert in the field and has managed to build the largest scholastic collection of science fiction. In 1997, the second closest collection had half the number of books.

    Everyone seems to be mentioning the big names, but there are a lot of smaller authors who influenced the science fiction genre. There are a lot of science fiction experts in the Comparative Literature field, so consider looking there for really specific information with citations. I won't bother trying to remember the essays I've read in those topics. The material is numerous and the field of study is about 20 years old.

  419. Navy Control Rooms by DavidBrown · · Score: 2

    I served as an officer on the USS Hoel (DDG-13), a Guided Missile Destroyer, from 1987 to 1990.

    Navy warships have a bridge, where you'll find the helmsman, the lee helmsman (transmits orders to the engine room) and the Officer of the Deck ("OOD") (who's in charge) and the Junior Officer of the Deck ("JOOD") who "has the Conn" and gives orders to the helm and lee helm. There's a nice big chair for the Captain to sit in whenever he wants.

    There's also a "Combat Information Center" or "CIC" which is usually close by the bridge. This is a darkened room full of radar repeaters and various weapon control systems. There's also a nice big chair for the Captain to sit in whenever he wants. There is also a "Combat Information Center Officer" on watch, and at times of heightened alerts, there is also a "Tactical Action Officer" or "TAO" who runs the ship and tells the OOD what to do

    Where does the Captain sit? Wherever he damn well wants, which is usually on the bridge.

    I suppose you could argue that modern Combat Information Centers are based on the Star Trek model, but the helm and lee helm and the OOD are still on the bridge where the OOD can see outside.

    I once took a tour of the USS Ticonderoga, the first Aegis class Cruiser. There was a portion of the CIC set aside for the Captain and maybe a flag officer (Admiral) if one was on board. This area had big projection screens, etc. But it sure didn't remind me of Star Trek, not at all.

    So, I don't buy it. Star Trek has been on TV, off and on, from the 1960's. The US Navy has been doing its job since the Revolutionary War. The design of Navy warships has been the result of a centuries long evolutionary process and is not the result of the vision of Gene Roddenberry.

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  420. Asimov;Heinlein;Vinge; some french guy by nightwing2000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Asimov - is credited with approaching robotics from a logical, scientific point of view. (machines don't have emotions). Heinlein - In "Waldo, Inc." actually describes Waldoes, mechanical hands for remote work for a person with degerative muscle disease who lives in orbit. Vernor Vinge - True Names and Other Lies- Describes a typcal Internet MUD years before anyone else. Some French Guy - wrote a story "By The Rivers of Babylon" about a member of a primitive tribe from upstate NY who visits the bombed-out city, has a vision of back when "...they turned the night into day for their pleasure." A typical post-atomic apocalype novel? Except this was written in 1938! There's also the famous story of the FBI visiting the offices of Astounding (now Analog) magazine in 1942 or 43 to ask about a science fiction story describing atomic bombs. Here they are trying to maintain the strictest secrecy and some guy is dreaming this up and describing it in the public media.

  421. Robotics, not robots by si1k · · Score: 1

    Asimove didn't invent the term "robot," but he was the first person to use the word "robotics" in writing.

  422. Cycling text through Babelfish pre-empted by PKD by dud023 · · Score: 1

    I was amused to read a passage in "Galactic Pot Healer", by Philip K Dick, where office employees play a game of taking a well known phrase and passing it through the translation computer to turn it into another language and then through another to turn it back into English, then making your opponent guess what the original was.

    Ever played this game by yourself or with others using altavista/babelfish??

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  423. Richard von Daniken by Felle+Jaap · · Score: 1

    He has written some funky books, but it's more a futuristic style (no laserguns, but space-stations orbiting the earth/moon). Maybe this'll do?

  424. Re:Diagnostic Bed - H.Beam Piper Space Viking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The automated medical bed as a diagnostic and treatmen
    tool was described and used much earlier in the
    great novel with the crappy name by H. Beam Piper,
    "Space Viking".

  425. non-ACs zeroth law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trolls are not part of humanity

  426. Fahrenheit 451 by Atroxodisse · · Score: 1

    In Fahrenheit 451 it presents the idea of a portable music player. When I first studied it in school they said it was the idea that lead to walkmans, but it ressembles an mp3 player more than a walkman...of course they didn't have mp3 players back then. I would read the book '1984' as well. I'm sure there are tons of ideas in that one too.

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  427. Starship Troopers (Heinlein) and Aliens (Cameron) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mechanical Exoskeletons as a way for soldiers to lift and carry much more equipment that humanly possible.

  428. H.G. Wells by SgtChaireBourne · · Score: 1

    H.G. Wells seems only to be mentioned once in the other posts. He's known for The Time Machine. The Sleeper Awakes has a description of an aerial dogfight between aircraft using vectored thrust.

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  429. The Mars Trilogy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    by Kim Stanley Robinson, and various supporting books (The Martians, etc).

    I was stunned by detail of his technology and deductions/application of Mars research. My brother is an astronomer whom I convinced to read the books and he was very impressed, esp as they were all written before the Mars Polar Lander, Pathfinder, Global Surveyor missions got there/blew up. KSR seems to have been on target with his geological and meterological ideas, and most of the technology seems very feasible too (space elevators, load bearing structures from vegetable fibres, slingshot meteorites, longevity, etc. Oh, and meta-national corporations).

    Also Titan by Stephen Someone. they bent a space shuttle to get it out to Titan. Bloody marvellous.

    "Someday, I have reason to believe, I will die", but I'm a bit busy at the moment.

  430. Terminology to create utopian/dystopian ideal by SgtChaireBourne · · Score: 1
    Yes, Sci-Fi creates new terms and some times even new concepts. And how much of the bad do we choose over the good? How much of the good can we choose over the bad?

    The original post does imply that the real world adopts ideas from literature. If this is the case, is it a conscious choice? If it is a conscious choice, why not choose the strong points and discard the weak and malevalent?

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  431. Hypo-Spray by Telemann · · Score: 1

    I think I remember reading somewhere that the no-needle injection was invented after someone with a fear of needles saw the hypo on startrek.

    1. Re:Hypo-Spray by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, back in the '60s I remember reading about non-needle, spray-type inoculations to make it more likely kids (and parents) would get their immunizations.

  432. Not to forget, ... by dreamsinter · · Score: 1

    J.G. Ballard's "Vermillion Sands" - there's a story there about an author who has his computer/typewriter working for him - it's an IBM of some sort or other. And there's a house that's getting ill.

    X10, anybody? And as for computer doing the writing for you, all you do is hook up emacs on "Meta X dissociated-press" to some incoming text, feed the resultant text through a grammar checker, and a style checker, etc, and you have the computer writing for you. Doesn't have to mean much, or even anything at all!

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  433. Negative influence by Theodore+Logan · · Score: 1
    As some poster already mentioned, 1984 has had influences on technology all right, but negative such. Or in other words: The world we live in would be much more like the world in 1984 had Orwell never written it.

    This is the case with most good science fiction books: they tell of a future that we don't want. Hopefully we'll get scared, and try to avoid it. This is something you need to focus on in addition to your other efforts.

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  434. Words of Heinlein by Seetee · · Score: 1

    Well, IIRC Stranger in a Strange Land introduced the word "grok" (meaning to understand something completely). This is actually being used, mainly in geek-communities of course, but it's use can also be found in other situations.

    Does anyone have any good examples of this?

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    1. Re:Words of Heinlein by Bobo+the+Space+Chimp · · Score: 1

      Actually, grok never really had a definition, which was kind of the point. That was sort of what it was like, although one had the feeling it involved more of the psychic abilities of the martians (learnable by humans, not innate) where one would get to know something more the way one knows a demon when one knows its True Name.

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  435. Cyberpunk genre by tdye · · Score: 2

    with 600+ comments, I don't know if these have been mentioned yet, but:

    "Snow Crash", for a pre-internet vision of the 'net'. Also predicts the sort of cult-icon hipness attached to programmers that happens nowadays.

    "Islands in the Net", which relies on the fax machine for much of its plot, before those objects existed.

    "Ender's Game", which presents the interesting idea of fighting a war remotely, in a format that mimics a computer game.

  436. Who invented the ansible? by mrthoughtful · · Score: 1

    Blish (and many others) have the ansible, and use it.. One of his novels has an early version of it.
    But LeGuin also has an ansible (and her inventor is Shevek - a good geek if there ever was one).

    But which author (maybe others) actually invented the ansible?

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  437. Many, many, many examples... by pdwalker · · Score: 1
    Arthur C Clark

    solar sails

    geosyncronous orbits

    propoganda

    world wide networks

    many other examples

    Robert Heinlein

    waterbeds

    Issac Asimov

    robotics

    and for the many other sci-fi writers that gave inspiration to the first nasa engineers that got man to the moon

    - Paul

  438. What about Comics as a source by eyeWar · · Score: 1

    I seem to remember an old story in Donald Duck (probably from the days of Carl Barks) when they brought a sunken ship to surface with ping-pong balls - today the technic is to use styrofoam I have also heard Watersking first was thought of in a comic strip of the thirties.

  439. Answering the actual question by Draxen · · Score: 1

    The original question asking about how scfi-fi *influenced* contemporary life, not necessarily about what inventions were accurately predicted. With that in mind, I'm somewhat depressed to admit its the more popular fare like Star Trek that have had the biggest influence due to their popularity rather much in the way of writers actually predicting stuff. The communicator / mobile phone link was mentioned by the original poster. How about voice control for computers ? Come to that what about multimedia in general ? Computers that could understand and respond in spoken English were pretty far out there in the early 60s. Take a look at some of the literature the show has spawned, there are (quasi) serious works examing the physics of Star Trek. Touch screen technology first came to the mass public awareness via the bridge of the Enterprise. There is now a "contactless" taser gun on sale in France that acts and looks like a phaser. Douglas Adams' HHGTTG has inspired at least two web based projects I know of to emulate the great book itself, and if you access their pages via a GSM enabled PDA how far away are you from Adams' vision ? And what about dear old 007 ? All those gadget watches Q issued him seem to have inspired an entire generation of designers at Casio. Although Dick Tracy has to take credit for inspiring the watch / two-way radio (read mobile phone) trend. Finally, dear old Isaac Asmiov, in his early robot stories the company that built most of the positronic pals was called US Robotics a name we more readily associate with modems these days. Draxen

  440. Philip K. Dick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arthur C Clarke, William Gibson, Isaac Asimov (and Douglas Adams)all have inspired some sort of invention or term that I can think of, I wonder if Phillip K.Dicks artificial animals ("do androids dream of electric sheep") inspired Sony to make Aibo ?

  441. Feynman ''envisioned" the nuclear sub first by mesusha · · Score: 1

    In his autobiographic book "surely you'r joking mr. Feynman" he recalls how one day a guy came round when he did his research on the atomic bomb in Palo Alto. This clerk wanted to know what else could be done with nuclear power. Seeing it as a kind of silly question since he gathered anything that requeres power could benifit from it, he ranted a whole list, including a submarine. To his amazement he ended up with the patent on it.

  442. Influential enough aid in the collapse of the USSR by GodLessOne · · Score: 1

    I havent seen this posted by anyone else so I thought I would add it to the list. Tacked onto the end of on of their later books (might be Lucifers Hammer or Footfall) Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle cover a story about how the Berlin wall came down.
    I'll try to recap the main points:
    They (and a lot of sci-fi writers) werent happy with the way that NASA was heading after the end of the Apollo missions.
    Niven and Pournelle decided to get a bunch of sci-fi writers together to come up with ideas that they could present to the US government.
    They had their brain storming session and produced a set of ideas that they presented to the Reagan administration.
    Reagan had his science advisors check them out. They said they would work.
    This led directly into SDI (StarWar project).
    Russia could not afford to follow suit and announce their own project. And from that point Russia had to find a new way to live with the US.
    Part of this new way included the fall of the Berlin wall.

    Since this is all from memory I have probably got a few points wrong. But it was well worth reading as it showed that a few people in the right place at the right time can achieve what they sent out to.

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  443. ORA:CLE predicts slashdot. by Martin+S. · · Score: 2


    ORA:CLE by Kevin O'Donnell predicts Internet based expert communities, like slashdot.

    The only link I could find is this french one, but English translations are available.

    http://www.cinefantastico.com/nexus7/literatura/ li bros/oracle.htm

  444. Re:I'm working on a project that is somewhat relat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  446. Similar Grad Course by swaza1 · · Score: 1

    I had a similar approach in my graduate work in English ... my professor, Tom Remington (one of the most brilliant people I've ever known), was exploring not how science fiction became science fact, but how science and literature prefigure each other, anticipating developments. The general idea is that in a literate society, the free flow of ideas cross disciplines. This was particularly true before the advent of specializations in the last 150 years or so.

    Some of the reading we did included "Gulliver's Travels" (gravity), "Frankenstein" (electricity), and from the other direction, "Theory of Relativity" (deconstruction).

    This is a great topic to explore. Enjoy!

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  447. I suggest a different strategy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since your thesis seems to be looking for a cause-and-effect relationship, I suggest you read the non-fiction literature first. Find some books that describe the history of a given technology, or biographies of the principal people involved, and look for references to the science fiction stories they read in their youth. I think you'll find lots of leads which you can then follow up by reading the stories themselves.

  448. Robert Heinlein's "If This Goes On" ... by Don+Keehotay · · Score: 1

    ... seems to have predicted the current political/religious climate in the U.S. with unnerving accuracy.

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  449. True Names by mpesce · · Score: 1

    According to a lot of folks in the early days of Virtual Reality, the Vernor Vinge novella "True Names" had a more profound effect on their thinking than the later (and more renowned) "Neuromancer". "True Names and the Cyberspace Frontier" is being released in December by TOR Books, with a set of essays from scientists & thinkers about how the novella influenced their own thinking about virtual reality, cyberspace, and whatnot...

  450. H Beam Piper by kinaole · · Score: 0

    pournelle and niven drew a lot from his work.

    his little fuzzy books are worth finding.

    aloha,
    dave

  451. John Brunner by ptrourke · · Score: 1

    Here's one that most folks won't know: the music video is quite convincingly portrayed (as are random cases of people going amok in public, and media portals - well, television commercials - that provide the viewer with a generic personality tailored to their own specifications - Mr. and Mrs. Everywhere - also biological terrorism attacks, and jails that look better than apartment buildings, etc.) in Brunner's Stand On Zanzibar.

    His Sheep Look Up also has a few gotchas in it.

  452. time-to-contact by greylouser · · Score: 1
    In Psychology, we talk a lot about time-to-contact. The idea is that if you're approaching some object, the ratio of the size of the image on your retina to the expansion-rate of the same image, gives you the amount of time until you smack into it. Apparantly people and animals are sensitive to this property. It was first suggested in a science fiction story, although I can't say if that story influenced the psychologists who developed the theory. I think the author of the story was Fred Hoyle, but I can't remember the name of the story.

    Some of the psychology can be found in:

    Lee, D.N. (1980). Visuo-Motor Coordination in Space-Time. In G.E. Stelmach & J. Requin (Eds.), Tutorials In Motor Behaviour.

  453. Hypertext in the 40s by CS Lewis by leandrod · · Score: 1

    CS Lewis published That Hideous Strength in 1.945; in it you have a nice description of a real-time-updated hypertext system which name I can't remember... besides a threatening description of big, idealistic, powerful bureaucracy!

    It's the third book in Lewis' so-called Space Trilogy, which begins with Out of the Silent Planet.

    He is also one of the first authors to describe good aliens.

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  454. Some more RAH and some near misses by n1vux · · Score: 1
    You might get better answers in news:rec.arts.sf.*, it may even be in the FAQ.

    I'll focus on Robert A. Heinlein (RAH)

    1. Predicting classified research in process

      RAH was visited by Men from the Government during WWII due to the story he submitted (to Campbell?) on a super-weapon based on Fission. He had extrapolated from the same, pre-war unclassified, a priori first principles that had been used to persuade Einstein to write to Roosevelt -- but the Feds feared he had been informed by a leak from the Manhatan Project, he so clearly foresaw what they were building. Sorry, I don't recall the story.

    2. Partial but interestingly flawed Prediction.
      • RAH "The Roads Must Roll", included in The Past through Tommorrow and other collections. Airport & Mall-of-America's conveyer belt people-mover tech expected, as Interstate replacement for Autobahn tech.

      • RAH Star Line a/k/a Beyond This Horizon: Eugenic breeding; centrally planned economy ala FRB using computer economic models; origin of "An armed society is a polite society" quote? But Computers are mechano- electrical analogs, that require 3-D cams to specify 3rd order (degree?) equations; hero muses if only he could get 4-D cams he could use 4th order (?degree) equations in a refined, more accurate theoretical model ... but he supposes 4-D cams would require a 4-D lubricant too. At the same time that he read Manhattan Project's mind, he missed extrapolating the (also classified) developments in electronic computers at Whirlwind; his computers were much more like the Turing/Bletchley Bombes, mere extrapolates of IBM card machines -- correctly anticipating photostat output instead of impact printing.

      • RAH Starman Jones : Astrogation is via ephermises tables in huge books, much like old Greenwich navigation almanacs; Jones becomes a great astrogator because his eidetic memory allows him to remember the tables.

        Many other 1930's / 1940's stories have space-farers using the familiar Slide Rule to do their orbital calculations.

    3. INSPIRATIONAL / SEMINAL

      For seminal inspiration, Verne's Earth to the Moon is considered the first of its kind, although it was contemporaneous with speculation in debating societies of what was possible.

      RAH's book antecedent of the same name for the 1948ish Voyage to the Moon film (awarded the Retro-Hugo for Film at WorldCon 2001) was surely not the first to use magnetic boots, and maybe not even the first to use an oxygen cylinder as an emergency orbital maneuvering unit ... but updated the Verne and 1920's/1930's fantasy's to the immediate-post-war declassified rocket age's possibilities. Verner von Braun's team didn't need to be told it was possible (they had read the 1920's SciFi and were more interested in developing manned flight than in shelling Britain with their V2 rockets), but the new generation of American people who'd pay for the program had to be told that it was now possible, not just a wonder story.

    Thanks in part to the memories of my wonderful wife and librarian Pam and my old pal Mike. Mike Padlipski's earliest recorded work was his MIT Bachelor's Thesis entitle "More than Pulp: Science Fiction and the problem of Literary value", possibly the earliest academic thesis on Science Fiction as Literature (or SciFi as LitCrit). It "featured an extended 'close reading' of [Theodore Sturgeon]'s More than Human [and] shorter readings of another 4-5 s.f. pieces, and sundry scholarly stuffings." (We know of at most one earlier such thesis.) No, it's not on the Web (yet?). His witty technicoaesthetic criticism of internetworking protocols is in the RFCs on-line and in print in expanded form as The Elements of Networking Style. As always, the faults (and some of the cherished favorite memories) are mine. -- Bill

    I had witty .sigs when usenet was cool, or so I thought; no point now.
  455. Terraforming - a derivation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The word "terraforming" to mean transforming a world to be more hospitable to humans was coined by the SF writer Jack Williamson, who has published SF in every one of the last seven decades.