"First of all, dual-link is only necessary for 4:4:4, like from a telecine. SMPTE 292 specifies full-bandwidth 4:2:2 HD over a single coaxial connection. That's what people who do HD over SDI use."
Fair enough, we've only got one HD suite and it uses dual link - but I still think Apple's onto a loser if it's gonna try and replace SIF with FW2 - it makes no sense at all. As for there still being plenty of component facilities?? Where, China? I don't know of ANY in London.
you're absolutely right, the G3 B&W 450 certainly doesn't (I just looked) and that's the lastt gen. G3 and first gen. G4 board. Interestingly, FW was NOT integrated on this board, but mounted in a little shielded box.
you WOULD have a point, excepting that EVERy Tv post environment is based on SIF, and dual link SIF for HD. FW has made some inroads at the VERY bottom of the market, but SIF is just as prevalent as ever, and there are several excellent SIF implementations for the Mac. I should know, I have three of them.
it did look like FW could compete with ATA some years ago, but that dream is now OVER. Much more likely will be Apple pushing FW2 as a new, extreme network i/f for clustering - even Gig E can't deliver 800Mbps (and PowerMacs already have Gig E on their mobos). A FW2 hub might be significantly cheaper than a Gig E switch, and Apple have already released sw to allow IP over FW for OSX...
Yeah, that makes sense! So, the XServe has a standard FireWire interface, but somehow having a companion product with a different interface is going to speed it up? Good call.
Much more significantly, If Apple ARE going to introduce FW2 on any of their machines it's going to mean NEW MOTHERBOARDS - and I'll bet you a Dollar to a Dime that FW2 won't be the only change!
Sounds like we're on the same wavelength. Thing is, I don't see why this machine shouldn't be - mobo wise - virtually identical to the current 12.1inch iBook. Deleting the optical drive and providing a smaller screen should save power straight away, and using an iPod style HD with a large cache should keep down power/heat and weight even further. Give it a beautiful pop-up stylus a la Newton and one of the modern generation of transflective colour screens (so you can use it in any light) and I think we've got a winner. The Newton's StrongARM was pretty powerful, but a 5-6-7-800Mhz G3 would be in a different league. I'm pulling numbers out of my arse, but maybe a 10hour battery life would be possible with judicious Energy Saver defaults? Best of all, of course, it'd be a REAL computer - not some lightweight syncable adjunct. If it had the iBooks usual roster of ports you'd be able to network via 10/100 enet, Firewire or AIrPort - or just use it in target disk mode to maintain file sync.
This is the product that I WANT from Apple, because this is what PDAs and notebooks can't do for me today. My girlfriend's Clie SJ-30 is pretty cool, but it doesn't "read" my writing like my old MP2100 does - but my poor old Newton can barely talk to the 'net (or my PowerMac G4 or Win2K machines). And notebooks - even small ones like the iBook - aren't small enough and the batteries don't last long enough.
Nope, in the cinema the 24fps is projected at either 48 or 72 "flashes" per second. All the projectors do is flash each frame two or three time. If you watch a film actually projected at 24fps it is unbearable - headache inducing doesn't begin to describe it.
You're absolutely spot-on about the phosphor persistence, however. therefore you shoud always run your CRT monitor at it's recommended or near maximum refresh rate - I run my Sony G400 at 100Hz, which is nice because it allows QuickTime to sync my 25fps video up every fourth frame. The interlace aspect is wrong, too. certainly, the PS2 generates 50 (or 59.94) full frames every second, the limitations of TV mean that it can only show half of each frame, but it renders them nonetheless.
As for the X-Box and GC, I believe they have progressive output modes in addition to normal 2:1 interlace, and can therefore give you full res frames with a suitable monitor.
Not true. X-Box itself runs at 59.94 fps (or 50), as do the PS2 and Gamecube. The flicker fusion frequency is normally taken as something in the region of 60-70Hz. Henec the "ergonomic" 74Hz standard that was adopted at one point.
have you ever played with one of these "tablet" PCs? They're FAR too big/heavy/fragile to make any sense. Something with and 8-9" screen (800x600?) and half to a third of the weight is what's required. Tablet PCs are just notebooks with more expensive screens!
I would absolutely LOVE Apple to bring out a small tablet machine. Something with a sub 8" screen, Newton handwriting recog, OSX, Airport and/or Bluetooth would be the ideal machine for me. Handhelds aren't there yet, but notebooks and tablet-notebooks are all wrong. I KNOW Apple could make such a device better than anyone else, after all, it'd be little different to an iBook sans optical drive, with a 1.8 inch HD instead of a 2.5 and a touchscreen replacing both the screen and keyboard.
Are you listening Apple? I'd actually BUY one at $1000 or less.
"Sendo got what they deserved - for neglecting the reality of harsh businesses practices."
Not at all, business relationships - like all relationships - must have a basis of trust to succeed. Sendo obviously made the mistake of thinking that Microsoft was run by humans.
"4. Don't bring torque into this... 'there is no replacement for displacement' *cough* when you are talking torque. This is where reciprocating mass is important."
yes there IS. Why do Americans not appear to understand pressurised induction systems. Supercharging is an almost PERFECT "replacement for displacement".
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you must be insane. You really think that Gran Turismo Concept gfx are possible on the DC? Get a grip, man.
"First of all, dual-link is only necessary for 4:4:4, like from a telecine. SMPTE 292 specifies full-bandwidth 4:2:2 HD over a single coaxial connection. That's what people who do HD over SDI use."
Fair enough, we've only got one HD suite and it uses dual link - but I still think Apple's onto a loser if it's gonna try and replace SIF with FW2 - it makes no sense at all. As for there still being plenty of component facilities?? Where, China? I don't know of ANY in London.
and it also had a passive dstn screen that was so laggy you could hardly play Sonic if the temperature was less than 20 degrees.
you're absolutely right, the G3 B&W 450 certainly doesn't (I just looked) and that's the lastt gen. G3 and first gen. G4 board. Interestingly, FW was NOT integrated on this board, but mounted in a little shielded box.
you WOULD have a point, excepting that EVERy Tv post environment is based on SIF, and dual link SIF for HD. FW has made some inroads at the VERY bottom of the market, but SIF is just as prevalent as ever, and there are several excellent SIF implementations for the Mac. I should know, I have three of them.
it did look like FW could compete with ATA some years ago, but that dream is now OVER. Much more likely will be Apple pushing FW2 as a new, extreme network i/f for clustering - even Gig E can't deliver 800Mbps (and PowerMacs already have Gig E on their mobos). A FW2 hub might be significantly cheaper than a Gig E switch, and Apple have already released sw to allow IP over FW for OSX...
Yeah, that makes sense! So, the XServe has a standard FireWire interface, but somehow having a companion product with a different interface is going to speed it up? Good call.
Much more significantly, If Apple ARE going to introduce FW2 on any of their machines it's going to mean NEW MOTHERBOARDS - and I'll bet you a Dollar to a Dime that FW2 won't be the only change!
nice attitude - drug dealers think much the same way.
Sounds like we're on the same wavelength. Thing is, I don't see why this machine shouldn't be - mobo wise - virtually identical to the current 12.1inch iBook. Deleting the optical drive and providing a smaller screen should save power straight away, and using an iPod style HD with a large cache should keep down power/heat and weight even further. Give it a beautiful pop-up stylus a la Newton and one of the modern generation of transflective colour screens (so you can use it in any light) and I think we've got a winner. The Newton's StrongARM was pretty powerful, but a 5-6-7-800Mhz G3 would be in a different league. I'm pulling numbers out of my arse, but maybe a 10hour battery life would be possible with judicious Energy Saver defaults? Best of all, of course, it'd be a REAL computer - not some lightweight syncable adjunct. If it had the iBooks usual roster of ports you'd be able to network via 10/100 enet, Firewire or AIrPort - or just use it in target disk mode to maintain file sync.
This is the product that I WANT from Apple, because this is what PDAs and notebooks can't do for me today. My girlfriend's Clie SJ-30 is pretty cool, but it doesn't "read" my writing like my old MP2100 does - but my poor old Newton can barely talk to the 'net (or my PowerMac G4 or Win2K machines). And notebooks - even small ones like the iBook - aren't small enough and the batteries don't last long enough.
Bring on the iPad!
Nope, in the cinema the 24fps is projected at either 48 or 72 "flashes" per second. All the projectors do is flash each frame two or three time. If you watch a film actually projected at 24fps it is unbearable - headache inducing doesn't begin to describe it.
You're absolutely spot-on about the phosphor persistence, however. therefore you shoud always run your CRT monitor at it's recommended or near maximum refresh rate - I run my Sony G400 at 100Hz, which is nice because it allows QuickTime to sync my 25fps video up every fourth frame. The interlace aspect is wrong, too. certainly, the PS2 generates 50 (or 59.94) full frames every second, the limitations of TV mean that it can only show half of each frame, but it renders them nonetheless.
As for the X-Box and GC, I believe they have progressive output modes in addition to normal 2:1 interlace, and can therefore give you full res frames with a suitable monitor.
who is this mythical PPC?
If you meant PowerPC, they are made by both Motorola and IBM.
Not true. X-Box itself runs at 59.94 fps (or 50), as do the PS2 and Gamecube. The flicker fusion frequency is normally taken as something in the region of 60-70Hz. Henec the "ergonomic" 74Hz standard that was adopted at one point.
you never used one, obviously.
presumably you aren't aware that Newton handwriting recognition (ie Inkwell) is already built in to Mac OSX.
eat up Martha
have you ever played with one of these "tablet" PCs? They're FAR too big/heavy/fragile to make any sense. Something with and 8-9" screen (800x600?) and half to a third of the weight is what's required. Tablet PCs are just notebooks with more expensive screens!
I would absolutely LOVE Apple to bring out a small tablet machine. Something with a sub 8" screen, Newton handwriting recog, OSX, Airport and/or Bluetooth would be the ideal machine for me. Handhelds aren't there yet, but notebooks and tablet-notebooks are all wrong. I KNOW Apple could make such a device better than anyone else, after all, it'd be little different to an iBook sans optical drive, with a 1.8 inch HD instead of a 2.5 and a touchscreen replacing both the screen and keyboard.
Are you listening Apple? I'd actually BUY one at $1000 or less.
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OK, who are you and where did you hear about iMars? These leaks have gotta stop dammit!
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3.Delay
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5.Destroy
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"Sendo got what they deserved - for neglecting the reality of harsh businesses practices."
Not at all, business relationships - like all relationships - must have a basis of trust to succeed. Sendo obviously made the mistake of thinking that Microsoft was run by humans.
if you're going to include you business details in you post, don't you think it'd be smart to learn how to use a FUCKING SPELLCHECKER?
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try turning on your brain, fuckwit
what? by yourself, in your parents' basement, with your pants around your ankles?
You must be having a whale of a time.
IE+IIS IS the general internet world (95% + 30%)
why the fuck are you still here then?
"Torque wins, period."
why can't a 38 tonne truck go faster than my Mazda RX-7 then?
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"4. Don't bring torque into this... 'there is no replacement for displacement' *cough* when you are talking torque. This is where reciprocating mass is important."
yes there IS. Why do Americans not appear to understand pressurised induction systems. Supercharging is an almost PERFECT "replacement for displacement".