It all comes back to the major philosophy of the OS.
Unix: Everything is a file or a process.
Windows: We think you're dumb, so we'll try to do it for you.
The Windows bit is a joke...does the Windows platform actually have a philosophy? Anyway, once people understand the Unix philosophy, everything else about the system becomes much clearer. The first thing ever taught to me about Unix was the philosophy, and I'm much better off for it.
Ah, but a technicality:
You'd need either the 'hash bang' line, or to call the interpreter from the command line ie) perl -e 'print "Hellow, world.\n"'
Both of these make the program longer than the above mentioned 'wacky-code'.
8.2 is due tomorrow, and 8.3 on Monday.
Seriously...where do these guys find time for quality testing...they seem too busy stuffing the next distro out the door.
It's always been my understanding that Universities are there to teach you how to think, while still providing a core set of fundamentals. Colleges are where you go to learn Java instead of Object-oriented programming. If you want to learn a current set of skills, go to College, but if you want to learn how to learn new skills, go to University.
I believe that every person should have to pass a test before he/she is able to cart the computer out of FutureShop...seriously, the average person is far to stupid to be able to handle a computer, let alone the internet.
Actually, I live in a country where are laws are (for the time being) still fairly sane. The only time in my memory that I recall any 'unrest' about our laws was recently when a Russian diplomat hit a pedestrian while drunk. If you're not sure, that makes me Canadian.
I guess, before I come off looking like a complete jackass, I should clarify my feelings on the matter.
I think: no matter where you live, a set of laws as repugnant as the DMCA should disgust you at you inner-most core regardless of how said laws are being used.
No hard feelings?
-Ben
PS: I'm too lazy to dig, but Canada is looking to ratify it's copyright laws, so this topic scares me even more...I really hope Canada doesn't take an American lead on this one.
Actually, I'd like to clear up the 'tone' of my last post. I think that I came off rather hostile.
I don't specifically 'hate' America, or Americans. I do however 'HATE' the 'American Attitude'. If you're unsure of what I mean by 'American Attitude', notice how mimbleton changed from attacking the DMCA to defending America's right to use the DMCA. I don't think that any non-Americans will need that clearup.
Actually, yes...I am serious, although, I could see taking action against the company for selling it from machines on US soil. Not him personally. And come to think of it, shouldn't they be taking the hosting companies to court, and anyone who bought the software...looks like there should be lots of Americans to throw in the clink.
The part that scares me is that they just arrest foreign national citizens...it's not like he killed someone!
On a side note, I find it interesting how easily diverted you are by an 'anti-american' comment. Do you really mean to say that the DMCA sucks, unless it helps protect America from the 'big bad world'?
The US should concern itself with its own problems, and just leave the rest of the world alone. That would make both the USA, and the rest of the world alot happier.
"Hey hon, they just indicted Skylarov..." (stroking USA off of vacation list).
WTF? He's Russian, the company is Russian, the software is legal in Russia (and should be everywhere).
I'm completely baffled as to how things like happen. You Americans need a serious sit-down with your so-called lawmakers and congressman. Or even better, have another freakin' tea party.
Later
-Ben (wandering to bed with thoughts of 'Though Police' and 'Big Brother')
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Ultimately, I'd love to see Debian have pppoe as an install protocol (right beside ppp), but until then...
Anyway. Why rely on the adsl package? Roaring Penguin PPPoE (rp-pppoe) is a pretty solid package...configure, make, make install.
It's been rock solid for me.
-Ben
It all comes back to the major philosophy of the OS.
Unix: Everything is a file or a process.
Windows: We think you're dumb, so we'll try to do it for you.
The Windows bit is a joke...does the Windows platform actually have a philosophy? Anyway, once people understand the Unix philosophy, everything else about the system becomes much clearer. The first thing ever taught to me about Unix was the philosophy, and I'm much better off for it.
-Ben
I would have gone with 'duct tape', myself.
-Ben
Let's also remember that he's the stupidest man to lead a country since Ronald Reagan...no wait, Bush makes Reagan look like a Nobel Laureate.
-Ben
I agree...doubleplus ungood.
-Ben
Ah, but a technicality:
You'd need either the 'hash bang' line, or to call the interpreter from the command line ie) perl -e 'print "Hellow, world.\n"'
Both of these make the program longer than the above mentioned 'wacky-code'.
-Ben
8.2 is due tomorrow, and 8.3 on Monday.
Seriously...where do these guys find time for quality testing...they seem too busy stuffing the next distro out the door.
Sheesh.
-Ben
It's always been my understanding that Universities are there to teach you how to think, while still providing a core set of fundamentals. Colleges are where you go to learn Java instead of Object-oriented programming. If you want to learn a current set of skills, go to College, but if you want to learn how to learn new skills, go to University.
-Ben
As far as I'm concerned, the best FTP client is Midnight Commander. Text based gui...integrated just like it's a local filesystem.
If you don't like mc, you might as well stick with (nc)ftp on the command line.
-Ben
I'll take your test idea one step farther.
I believe that every person should have to pass a test before he/she is able to cart the computer out of FutureShop...seriously, the average person is far to stupid to be able to handle a computer, let alone the internet.
-Ben
I agree! When it comes to having no choice left (all online shops enforce passport), I'm heading down to Chapters.
I will not be forced to use bad technology simply because the rest of the World thinks MS knows how to look after their data.
-Ben
s/idignant/indignant/
And I did preview, that's the sad part!
-Ben
Cost of idignant /. reader: PRICELESS!
-Ben
Actually, I live in a country where are laws are (for the time being) still fairly sane. The only time in my memory that I recall any 'unrest' about our laws was recently when a Russian diplomat hit a pedestrian while drunk. If you're not sure, that makes me Canadian.
I guess, before I come off looking like a complete jackass, I should clarify my feelings on the matter.
I think: no matter where you live, a set of laws as repugnant as the DMCA should disgust you at you inner-most core regardless of how said laws are being used.
No hard feelings?
-Ben
PS: I'm too lazy to dig, but Canada is looking to ratify it's copyright laws, so this topic scares me even more...I really hope Canada doesn't take an American lead on this one.
Actually, I'd like to clear up the 'tone' of my last post. I think that I came off rather hostile.
I don't specifically 'hate' America, or Americans. I do however 'HATE' the 'American Attitude'. If you're unsure of what I mean by 'American Attitude', notice how mimbleton changed from attacking the DMCA to defending America's right to use the DMCA. I don't think that any non-Americans will need that clearup.
-Ben
Actually, yes...I am serious, although, I could see taking action against the company for selling it from machines on US soil. Not him personally. And come to think of it, shouldn't they be taking the hosting companies to court, and anyone who bought the software...looks like there should be lots of Americans to throw in the clink.
The part that scares me is that they just arrest foreign national citizens...it's not like he killed someone!
On a side note, I find it interesting how easily diverted you are by an 'anti-american' comment. Do you really mean to say that the DMCA sucks, unless it helps protect America from the 'big bad world'?
The US should concern itself with its own problems, and just leave the rest of the world alone. That would make both the USA, and the rest of the world alot happier.
"Hey hon, they just indicted Skylarov..." (stroking USA off of vacation list).
WTF? He's Russian, the company is Russian, the software is legal in Russia (and should be everywhere).
I'm completely baffled as to how things like happen. You Americans need a serious sit-down with your so-called lawmakers and congressman. Or even better, have another freakin' tea party.
Later
-Ben (wandering to bed with thoughts of 'Though Police' and 'Big Brother')
The 'counter-clockwise' bit is hilarious...
-Ben
Kid you're gonna go far!
That's pretty funny!
-Ben