Two spam recieved in a foul mood,
And sorry I could not delete both
And be one reader, long I sat
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;
Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was annoying and wanted money;
Though as for that the passing here
Had worn their welcome about the same,
And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on back to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two spam recieved in a foul mood, and I-
I left the basement to shoot a spammer
And that has made all the difference.
Man, I check for something on google (how I loved deja's "near" qualifier) about half a doz time a day. I don't know where I'd be without it. if for nothing else it's got to be the ultimate perr review (read, I'm cheap & I "shop" alot before buying) resource.
Tha being said it's an awfully wierd feeling to look something up, just knowing that there had to be an answer, and finding an asnwer. That you posted. In 1992. I love it:)
Ok, but you've still got that same mass coming in at, what, 20-30km/s? Even if there isn't a clean "monolithic" strike, wouldn't the energies involved still rather, well, nasty?
Umm, maybe I just haven't though this through but...
Water expands by about 1/11 when it freezes - are you sugesting that water, with out under going such a phase change, will expand as much simply by heating it?
Oh, that's right you did mention something about "ignoring the fact that some polar ice is on land". Yeah, that little bit 'o ice, those mere GIGANTICE POLAR ICE CAPS resting on land masses couldn't possibly change sea level when they melt.
Not that I'm entirely convinced that we have any (let alone significat or conclusive) proof of a real (read: disjointed, non cyclical) warming trend.
I think we've kinda missed something here. If your needs never change then neither does the usefullness of your hardware - PC or MAC or, heck, Amiga. If it works, it works.
If, on the other hand I now have a need for newer software, different hardware etc, then the question of life span becomes more important.
In this case, though - the statement "Macs last longer than PCs" is clearly BS for the reaons stated in this parent's parent.
What about patents? They expire.
I also wonder about trademarks. Individuals have rights concerning the use of their image (etc.) but it becomes difficult for a deceased person's estate to protect that after their dead. A corporation, on the other hand, hand take steps (in theory) to protect thei trademarks indefinitaly. Why does the imaginairy "body" of a corportation have more rights to it's "property" then I do?
Well, no actually. The need for control does not iply the need for a specific control.
One might also note that an artist wanting control is not the same as a publisher, copyright holder & supposed rep for the artist wanting control.
I do think it's safe to say that for the RIAA it is about money - because, from their POV, they can make money if they own/control all of the distribution schemes. If the RIAA had owned napster & it was sufficiently difficult for anybody else to offer a similar (read, same service with no $ paid to the RIAA) service then napster would have made money for the RIAA.
That being said it seems that the RIAA has, for the longest time, not seen the fallacy of that arguement. The barrier to entry is rediculously low. The efforts required to remove these illegal services is rather high. And despite the expiriences that say you can't litigate them all out of existance litigation seems to be the tool the RIAA is using to combat the threat. I guess when all you have is a hammer...
Ummm, I kinda got off on a rant & forgot to mention the actual reason of my first post:(
What I'm trying to say here is that this situation is hardly a "if you're not for me, you're against me", "black & white" sorta thing. Just because a band has said some things that the RIAA is also saying doesn't mean their pro-RIAA. After we _know_ the RIAA has been blowing hot air (ok, ok out & out lies) for some time - given that would you say that anybody advocating artist's rights is pro-RIAA?
I hate to admitt it, but on this one I'd have to "toe the party line". I think that metallica has a very valid point with the concern of control. If you've done something nifty and you'd like to see that it's release (if any) to the public is done in a manner you'd like then all the more power to ya
Of course metallica is in a different sort of situation then five nines of the artistic community in that they're very established, & have the power (read $ and hence no need to pander to a fickle public) to do what they want, rather then what's expected of them.
Sounds good, I guess I just have one question. I (something like) solar wind wasn't particularily important, why is it that such a large percentage of the volatiles in the system on/in the gas giants? High escape velocity explains why they don't lose them now, but when their mass is (AFAIK) largely composed of lighter elements how did they keep them through formation? It seems unlikely that they (volatiles) just started out in two locations (enough for the sun, big gap, then enough for the gas giants).
I could be waaay off base, and I'm not in a postion to know if I'm talking shit, let alone knowing what i'm talking about, buuuut - I would think it make more sense is the solar system had a much more homegenous composition (at creation) and the composition changed as a result of mechnical processes.
And AFAIK theory says they _should_ be pretty darned cold. Doesn't mean they can't have H2O, though. Does raise the issue that, though the article cliamed life in a wide temperature range, there's a _lot_ of difference between "near freezing" and "near 0K". While there has been some speculation (AFIAK, completely in the realm of sci fi) of life base on liquid helium it would seem to me that , rather then water, the ambient temperature range would be a far more usefull indicator of possible life.
True, the carbon/water system is so extreamly flexible it seems so much likely that life would develope with that chemistry rather then, say, a silicone one. Heck, silicon is nearly the most abundant mineral on/in this planet, and we have yet to discover silicon based life here. I'm not saying that there for sure isn't any, it's just that it's not likely.
I don't know about water on pluto, but the mass question is interesting. The biggest reason why planets in our neighborhood need to be large to hold onto volatiles is solar wind. This would not be such a problem in pluto's neck of the woods, however.
I use a hotmail addy (mostly because i've had it since the front page proudly explaimed something like _10000_ users, so I've got a good one) & hate the fact that they butcher all the links in an email. I read several forums, many of which can't cope with the fubar'd links. So surprise, surprise when I found that most of them _worked_perfectly_ if viewed with Konquerer rather then IE. I don't generally like to get on the "bashin' wagin'" but you'd think that a M$'s geberated page ('cause they butchered it, remember) with a M$'s browser should work.
I think, perhaps you are - sorta. Jerry Pournelle (www.jerrypournelle.com) said/says it better then I do, but if we really wanna do something with this here space thing we gotta be prepared to loose a little. Accidents happen, shit goes wrong. Tough. Life goes on. Sure we want to do everything possible to _avoid_ such happenings, but we don't want to be castrated with fear when the inevitable _does_ happen.
I'd trade an awfull lot 'a "technical excellence" for any 'ol _real_ accomplishment.
There is also _significant_ debate as to what, exactly, aspergers actually is. I believe Dr. Asperger first used the term to describe a group of rather (not anti, but perhaps non-social?) boys who were not considered autistic. I would figure that using that as a basis for actuall diagnosis would be akin, for example, to calling something "rickets" with first knowing anything about nutrional defeciencies.
I have to agree. I live 700-800km north of the border & we usually get 4-5 weeks in the winter with overnight lows about -25C. it's been significantly warmer this week then last, today's high was -5C.
The geographical center of Canada is actually somewhat north of Winnepeg near Churchill. They too hit -5C today though their rec highs & lows for dec. 15 are +2C & -41C respectively.
When i was in highschool i had an uncle stationed in Rankin inlet (The extream north west corder of Hudson's Bay). one day in dec. they phoned us, despite the expense (sat phones only there) because there wasn't much to do. I guess it was ~ -75 with windchill & their house had been buried by a snowdrift over night. it would take a couple of days to get dug out. Happens to somebody a couple times a year he said.
So you can take your Seattle "Winter" & stuff it.
I think that such a clause really shouldn't be legal. If you've paid for a licence for a product the supplier no longer wants to support they, having been paid to support it, should have to give up reasonable means of support (OS) or a reasonable upgrade path.
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how would you pronounce that? "nut-bastard?"
I'm a Metis Canadian male and I suspect most of my kind would feel like they'd shot themselves in the foot
There's precious little worth watching anyway...
Two spam recieved in a foul mood, And sorry I could not delete both And be one reader, long I sat And looked down one as far as I could To where it bent in the undergrowth; Then took the other, as just as fair, And having perhaps the better claim, Because it was annoying and wanted money; Though as for that the passing here Had worn their welcome about the same, And both that morning equally lay In leaves no step had trodden black. Oh, I kept the first for another day! Yet knowing how way leads on back to way, I doubted if I should ever come back. I shall be telling this with a sigh Somewhere ages and ages hence: Two spam recieved in a foul mood, and I- I left the basement to shoot a spammer And that has made all the difference.
Man, I check for something on google (how I loved deja's "near" qualifier) about half a doz time a day. I don't know where I'd be without it. if for nothing else it's got to be the ultimate perr review (read, I'm cheap & I "shop" alot before buying) resource.
:)
Tha being said it's an awfully wierd feeling to look something up, just knowing that there had to be an answer, and finding an asnwer. That you posted. In 1992. I love it
Ok, but you've still got that same mass coming in at, what, 20-30km/s? Even if there isn't a clean "monolithic" strike, wouldn't the energies involved still rather, well, nasty?
Umm, maybe I just haven't though this through but...
Water expands by about 1/11 when it freezes - are you sugesting that water, with out under going such a phase change, will expand as much simply by heating it?
Oh, that's right you did mention something about "ignoring the fact that some polar ice is on land". Yeah, that little bit 'o ice, those mere GIGANTICE POLAR ICE CAPS resting on land masses couldn't possibly change sea level when they melt.
Not that I'm entirely convinced that we have any (let alone significat or conclusive) proof of a real (read: disjointed, non cyclical) warming trend.
I _know_ I have better things to do - that's why I'm here replying to such drivel @ 6:30am ;)
Here Here!
:).
my volt was prob. the best $300C I ever spent (well, I certainly thought so during a flight to Australia
OGG support would be nice
I think we've kinda missed something here. If your needs never change then neither does the usefullness of your hardware - PC or MAC or, heck, Amiga. If it works, it works.
If, on the other hand I now have a need for newer software, different hardware etc, then the question of life span becomes more important.
In this case, though - the statement "Macs last longer than PCs" is clearly BS for the reaons stated in this parent's parent.
What about patents? They expire.
I also wonder about trademarks. Individuals have rights concerning the use of their image (etc.) but it becomes difficult for a deceased person's estate to protect that after their dead. A corporation, on the other hand, hand take steps (in theory) to protect thei trademarks indefinitaly. Why does the imaginairy "body" of a corportation have more rights to it's "property" then I do?
Well, no actually. The need for control does not iply the need for a specific control.
One might also note that an artist wanting control is not the same as a publisher, copyright holder & supposed rep for the artist wanting control.
I do think it's safe to say that for the RIAA it is about money - because, from their POV, they can make money if they own/control all of the distribution schemes. If the RIAA had owned napster & it was sufficiently difficult for anybody else to offer a similar (read, same service with no $ paid to the RIAA) service then napster would have made money for the RIAA.
That being said it seems that the RIAA has, for the longest time, not seen the fallacy of that arguement. The barrier to entry is rediculously low. The efforts required to remove these illegal services is rather high. And despite the expiriences that say you can't litigate them all out of existance litigation seems to be the tool the RIAA is using to combat the threat. I guess when all you have is a hammer...
Ummm, I kinda got off on a rant & forgot to mention the actual reason of my first post :(
What I'm trying to say here is that this situation is hardly a "if you're not for me, you're against me", "black & white" sorta thing. Just because a band has said some things that the RIAA is also saying doesn't mean their pro-RIAA. After we _know_ the RIAA has been blowing hot air (ok, ok out & out lies ) for some time - given that would you say that anybody advocating artist's rights is pro-RIAA?
I hate to admitt it, but on this one I'd have to "toe the party line". I think that metallica has a very valid point with the concern of control. If you've done something nifty and you'd like to see that it's release (if any) to the public is done in a manner you'd like then all the more power to ya
Of course metallica is in a different sort of situation then five nines of the artistic community in that they're very established, & have the power (read $ and hence no need to pander to a fickle public) to do what they want, rather then what's expected of them.
Sounds good, I guess I just have one question. I (something like) solar wind wasn't particularily important, why is it that such a large percentage of the volatiles in the system on/in the gas giants? High escape velocity explains why they don't lose them now, but when their mass is (AFAIK) largely composed of lighter elements how did they keep them through formation? It seems unlikely that they (volatiles) just started out in two locations (enough for the sun, big gap, then enough for the gas giants).
I could be waaay off base, and I'm not in a postion to know if I'm talking shit, let alone knowing what i'm talking about, buuuut - I would think it make more sense is the solar system had a much more homegenous composition (at creation) and the composition changed as a result of mechnical processes.
And AFAIK theory says they _should_ be pretty darned cold. Doesn't mean they can't have H2O, though. Does raise the issue that, though the article cliamed life in a wide temperature range, there's a _lot_ of difference between "near freezing" and "near 0K". While there has been some speculation (AFIAK, completely in the realm of sci fi) of life base on liquid helium it would seem to me that , rather then water, the ambient temperature range would be a far more usefull indicator of possible life.
True, the carbon/water system is so extreamly flexible it seems so much likely that life would develope with that chemistry rather then, say, a silicone one. Heck, silicon is nearly the most abundant mineral on/in this planet, and we have yet to discover silicon based life here. I'm not saying that there for sure isn't any, it's just that it's not likely.
echos of Niven? - echos of Clarke!!! (2010) :)
I don't know about water on pluto, but the mass question is interesting. The biggest reason why planets in our neighborhood need to be large to hold onto volatiles is solar wind. This would not be such a problem in pluto's neck of the woods, however.
I use a hotmail addy (mostly because i've had it since the front page proudly explaimed something like _10000_ users, so I've got a good one) & hate the fact that they butcher all the links in an email. I read several forums, many of which can't cope with the fubar'd links. So surprise, surprise when I found that most of them _worked_perfectly_ if viewed with Konquerer rather then IE. I don't generally like to get on the "bashin' wagin'" but you'd think that a M$'s geberated page ('cause they butchered it, remember) with a M$'s browser should work.
I think, perhaps you are - sorta. Jerry Pournelle (www.jerrypournelle.com) said/says it better then I do, but if we really wanna do something with this here space thing we gotta be prepared to loose a little. Accidents happen, shit goes wrong. Tough. Life goes on. Sure we want to do everything possible to _avoid_ such happenings, but we don't want to be castrated with fear when the inevitable _does_ happen. I'd trade an awfull lot 'a "technical excellence" for any 'ol _real_ accomplishment.
There is also _significant_ debate as to what, exactly, aspergers actually is. I believe Dr. Asperger first used the term to describe a group of rather (not anti, but perhaps non-social?) boys who were not considered autistic. I would figure that using that as a basis for actuall diagnosis would be akin, for example, to calling something "rickets" with first knowing anything about nutrional defeciencies.
Huh, and I thought geek interaction was simply asexual? :)
I have to agree. I live 700-800km north of the border & we usually get 4-5 weeks in the winter with overnight lows about -25C. it's been significantly warmer this week then last, today's high was -5C. The geographical center of Canada is actually somewhat north of Winnepeg near Churchill. They too hit -5C today though their rec highs & lows for dec. 15 are +2C & -41C respectively. When i was in highschool i had an uncle stationed in Rankin inlet (The extream north west corder of Hudson's Bay). one day in dec. they phoned us, despite the expense (sat phones only there) because there wasn't much to do. I guess it was ~ -75 with windchill & their house had been buried by a snowdrift over night. it would take a couple of days to get dug out. Happens to somebody a couple times a year he said. So you can take your Seattle "Winter" & stuff it.
I think that such a clause really shouldn't be legal. If you've paid for a licence for a product the supplier no longer wants to support they, having been paid to support it, should have to give up reasonable means of support (OS) or a reasonable upgrade path.