hehe, I'll save that for "work" tomorrow:) - Though I think a far more interesting question would run like,
"How many AOL 3.5" floppies does it take to cause said stack to collaps upon it's self - taking AOL with it?"
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My rio follow's me _everywhere_ to which i have two options (at this time) for the car both mentioned in the parent (adapter & transmitter). The adapter is the most usefull but the transmitter which cost me $20CAD & ~ 90min of soldering (I'm slow & methodical, it's prob possible to do it 30) is far cooler:)
I could be wrong (I, too, am not a lawyer) but I'm pretty sure, in Canada at least, everything is by default copywrited - you have to _explicitly_ state otherwise.
"Your argument is analogous to this one:
Setup: Every week, I note how much my cat weighs. In the last 6 months, the data points to the fact that there's been a clear trend in increasing weight.
1. My cat is 14 years old.
2. 6 months is only a small part of 14 years.
3. Thus, my cat is not getting any heavier."
No my argument is somewhat closer to:
1. My Cat is 14 years old
2. My cat weighs 3 grams more then it did 6 seconds ago
3. 6 seconds is only a small part of 14 years
Conclusion: It seems likly that my cat had a drink of water, and did not in fact gain weight.
Prediction: I just now let my cat out, he will run 'round for about 20min at which time he is likely to weigh as much as he did "pre-drink"
Axiom: When attempting to gauge trends regarding variable properties of complex systems one must ensure that the "trend" in question exceeds the signal/noise threshold inherent in such a system.
Application: The temperature data currently available shows a small, recent, "Warming trend" that, statisticaly, is unlikely to be improbable enough to considered a significant event. Hence there is no trend.
"There is no scientific debate about whether or not global warming (on earth) is occuring. We have global average temperatures for a 150 years. This data shows a clear warming trend over the last 12 years or so. No amount of wishful ignorance can make these numbers go away."
So, umm, let me see here:
Age of planet, ~4000000000 years
Duration of testing, ~150 years
Length of warming trend, ~0.0000003% of planet life time.
Hmmm, tell me again why you seem to feel that there's conclusion proof of _any_ warming trend at all?
Just like AMD & Intel have never introduced )nearly) useless features designed to influence benchmarks? Face it, the people you're ticked at are _not_ ATi - it's ATi's _marketing_ division, & NVidia's & AMD's & Intel's & Apple's &....
"I love reading posts like yours because they are absolutely so self-absorbed."
Really, umm, well you seem to have made up your mind eh?
"First of all, "Gamers" are a tiny fraction of the gaming market."
Hmm, perhaps your def. of "Gamer" is a little narrow & self involved? Seems to me that those who play games make up a pretty damn large chunk of the gaming market, no?
"Most games are sold to regular people who just want to blow off a bit of steam after work or whatever."
So what do _you_ call these people (myself included?)
"You guys do not carry the market, and the sales numbers show this (Railroad Tycoon and Sims outsold the "gamers" favs by 10:1 at least.)"
Oooh, Ooooh, the mysterious "You/They/Them"!!!
Not that you'd care, as it would appear you like fecal shampoo but my favourite game (& the only one I play regularily right now) is starcraft - one of the best selling games of all time.
"Second, if you are a "gamer", why would you care about the platform."
Because I currently own 3 consoles & my home box boots 4 Os's. I would _love_ to play/use everything on one set of equipement without having to reboot all the time. In other words I don't want a gaming platform - I want the all singing, all dancing platform. And that's why I care - I "just want to blow off a bit of steam after work or whatever".
"All you are doing is bootstrapping into a game, after all. Wintendo should be fine for you."
Yeah, & I just get out of bed in the am so I shouldn't care what I have to do today, or how to go about it, huh.
"Third, there's no evidence that gaming makes a platform viable."
Hmmm, a quote from the parent "...making the Windows platform a viable gaming platform..." seems to me the topic of discussion was _gaming_platforms_ - how you got from there to gaming on general platoforms is a little cloudy...
"A broad range of all sorts of applications make a platform viable. That's the reason we have Windows and Mac and not Amiga and Atari ST. Note that Mac in particular is a very profitable commercial software platform, and a fairly shitty game platform."
I'm not really sure how to reply to this - you've rally lost it.
Ah, I think we're pretty much voicing two shades of the same opinion - you're just a little more verbose:)
My point was that your platform will not be a gaming platform until there are games available for it. Further, it won't be a marketable platform without marketable games. We, as gamers, have put up with an awfull lot - everything from unstable (or vapourware) products to inferior gameplay to expense. Despite this, though, we still buy an very large number of games & the hardware to run them. To me this means that there must be a reasonable fraction of those products that are worth purchasing. So, to refute the parent poster's opinion, easy of coding is _key_ as it makes it likely that a larger number of games will be published and, hence, a larger number worth purchasing.
Granted, as you've pointed out quite well, there are other factors that can/will lead to the same conclusion. Whether it's ease of development, or larger markets, anything that encourages developers/publishers to bring new games to market will better the viabilty of your target platform for gaming.
"Ha! - providing an automated tool for calling functions in Windows common to gaming, is not making the Windows platform a viable gaming platform per se, it's just making it easier to program for it."
Ugh - so blind, so wrong.
The biggest factor in the viability of a "gaming platform" would be the existance of games, no? If it take more effort to develope then then what the market is willing to pay _there_will_be_no_platform.
Hmmm, I would think that the idea of getting more hardware for the money might be a usefull bargining point.
Though if Red hat were really serious about presenting something usefull to the American school system I would think they'd have to offer the one thing that would cost them $ - "value added services". I have two services in mind:
1)Tech support. The distro's are already free so offering them free isn't particularily constructive. Offering the services required to get free software _running_ - for _free_ would be something.
2)Curriculum development. With all the talk of needing to be comp literate, the clash of poor/useless certificates, & cash strapped school systems as a "captive aduience" it seems a little odd that no one (M$, RH or otherwise) have stepped forward to say:
"Hey, punish M$ & make'm buy computers for every school in America (even better, say, 1 comp for every 5 students). We'll put our OS & software (guaranteed to be free & there'll never be charges for upgrades). To help with this massive influs of technology we'll fund and (partially) develope a comprehensive K12 curriculum to be streamed in over the next 15 years (2 years lead time & for deployment of basic "all ages" intro's, with a new grade to be added every year). We will promise to do this for little or no cost & will make all materials subject to an unbiased public review. We will do this because we know there is nothing else that could ever hope to increase our market share by such leaps & bounds."
The only tricky part would be, assuming such a "beneficiary" wasn't, say, Larry Ellison, assuring that the provider would be able to wait 10-15 years for their "market share investment" to pay off. OTOH, while companies with open source based business plans would have a tougher time living out the next 10-15 years under such a burden they do have somewhat more to gain. A closed source firm would merely gain market share & "legitimacy" an open source firm also gains a large new chunk of developers.
I believe this is so beacuse the speed of light isn't really a constant. C is not exactly the speed of light, rather it's the speed of light _in_a_vacume_. If I remember high school physics a significate prerequisite for calculating agles of refraction was knowing the speed of light for both materials.
"The frame of reference in which the microwave background radiation of the universe is stationary"
Hmmm, I'm not a physicist & it's quite possible that this statement might mean somthing other then what one would logically assume it to buuuut - where might this be? If we're talking about _radiation_ (which, I think, would be by nature moving @ C) yuo'd have to by moving @ C in the same direction, no?. To further complicate things I do believe that this radiation is detectable everywhere throughout the universe, no? It would logicaly follow that this radiation must then be moving through every point in the universe. I can't think of any scenario where this is possible if all the radiation is moving in the same direction. Hence, unless I've made some gross error the "background" radiation must be moving relative to it's self & it would therefore be impossible to view it as being "at rest"
"storing a serial number that the game uses on each CD"
Beacuse this only works is each serial is unique, which means each cd would have to be unique, wich is, of course ridiculous.
Ummm, just like every no retail store could possibly make you sign a contract for, say, that nice shiny copy of XP?
That's the whole problem with M$ (and many other's) EULA's - they liscence _everything_ and, by the agreement, have to agree to it just to open the box so you can read the agreement. makes me wonder why we haven't seen a class action bad faith suit....
Oh, and of course this has nothing to do with the quality of your code, does it?. Seems to me that comparing your results with those of some truly talented people who are paid simply to make their product run faster is, well, rather egotistical. I could be wong, you could just be dumb.
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http://www.mathsoft.com/asolve/plouffe/plouffe.htm l
"If only it was easy to find any decimal of PI with a simple formula, [blah blah]" There is - for hex - that's how they compute it these days.
hehe, I'll save that for "work" tomorrow :) - Though I think a far more interesting question would run like,
"How many AOL 3.5" floppies does it take to cause said stack to collaps upon it's self - taking AOL with it?"
100gb ~ 69444 floppies ~ stack 173.61m tall Assuming 1 floppy ~ 2.5mm thick
My rio follow's me _everywhere_ to which i have two options (at this time) for the car both mentioned in the parent (adapter & transmitter). The adapter is the most usefull but the transmitter which cost me $20CAD & ~ 90min of soldering (I'm slow & methodical, it's prob possible to do it 30) is far cooler :)
I could be wrong (I, too, am not a lawyer) but I'm pretty sure, in Canada at least, everything is by default copywrited - you have to _explicitly_ state otherwise.
Bwhahahahahahahhahhhahahhhhhaa!!
Bwahahahahahaha! Lordy my mon am needed that :)
Umm, there is - orbital &/or lunar solar collectors. Perhaps the best near future argument for a _real_ space program.
Better yet I've got a dreamcast /w linux and don't yet have a display that's as portable as the dreamcast.....
I've ordered one & may end up having it replace the dc (mostly), but the combinations are awfully interesting.
"Your argument is analogous to this one: Setup: Every week, I note how much my cat weighs. In the last 6 months, the data points to the fact that there's been a clear trend in increasing weight. 1. My cat is 14 years old. 2. 6 months is only a small part of 14 years. 3. Thus, my cat is not getting any heavier." No my argument is somewhat closer to: 1. My Cat is 14 years old 2. My cat weighs 3 grams more then it did 6 seconds ago 3. 6 seconds is only a small part of 14 years Conclusion: It seems likly that my cat had a drink of water, and did not in fact gain weight. Prediction: I just now let my cat out, he will run 'round for about 20min at which time he is likely to weigh as much as he did "pre-drink" Axiom: When attempting to gauge trends regarding variable properties of complex systems one must ensure that the "trend" in question exceeds the signal/noise threshold inherent in such a system. Application: The temperature data currently available shows a small, recent, "Warming trend" that, statisticaly, is unlikely to be improbable enough to considered a significant event. Hence there is no trend.
Nor does it help much if the seawater contains varying levels of C14
"There is no scientific debate about whether or not global warming (on earth) is occuring. We have global average temperatures for a 150 years. This data shows a clear warming trend over the last 12 years or so. No amount of wishful ignorance can make these numbers go away." So, umm, let me see here: Age of planet, ~4000000000 years Duration of testing, ~150 years Length of warming trend, ~0.0000003% of planet life time. Hmmm, tell me again why you seem to feel that there's conclusion proof of _any_ warming trend at all?
Just like AMD & Intel have never introduced )nearly) useless features designed to influence benchmarks? Face it, the people you're ticked at are _not_ ATi - it's ATi's _marketing_ division, & NVidia's & AMD's & Intel's & Apple's & ....
"I love reading posts like yours because they are absolutely so self-absorbed."
Really, umm, well you seem to have made up your mind eh?
"First of all, "Gamers" are a tiny fraction of the gaming market."
Hmm, perhaps your def. of "Gamer" is a little narrow & self involved? Seems to me that those who play games make up a pretty damn large chunk of the gaming market, no?
"Most games are sold to regular people who just want to blow off a bit of steam after work or whatever."
So what do _you_ call these people (myself included?)
"You guys do not carry the market, and the sales numbers show this (Railroad Tycoon and Sims outsold the "gamers" favs by 10:1 at least.)"
Oooh, Ooooh, the mysterious "You/They/Them"!!!
Not that you'd care, as it would appear you like fecal shampoo but my favourite game (& the only one I play regularily right now) is starcraft - one of the best selling games of all time.
"Second, if you are a "gamer", why would you care about the platform."
Because I currently own 3 consoles & my home box boots 4 Os's. I would _love_ to play/use everything on one set of equipement without having to reboot all the time. In other words I don't want a gaming platform - I want the all singing, all dancing platform. And that's why I care - I "just want to blow off a bit of steam after work or whatever".
"All you are doing is bootstrapping into a game, after all. Wintendo should be fine for you."
Yeah, & I just get out of bed in the am so I shouldn't care what I have to do today, or how to go about it, huh.
"Third, there's no evidence that gaming makes a platform viable."
Hmmm, a quote from the parent "...making the Windows platform a viable gaming platform..." seems to me the topic of discussion was _gaming_platforms_ - how you got from there to gaming on general platoforms is a little cloudy...
"A broad range of all sorts of applications make a platform viable. That's the reason we have Windows and Mac and not Amiga and Atari ST. Note that Mac in particular is a very profitable commercial software platform, and a fairly shitty game platform."
I'm not really sure how to reply to this - you've rally lost it.
Ah, I think we're pretty much voicing two shades of the same opinion - you're just a little more verbose :)
My point was that your platform will not be a gaming platform until there are games available for it. Further, it won't be a marketable platform without marketable games. We, as gamers, have put up with an awfull lot - everything from unstable (or vapourware) products to inferior gameplay to expense. Despite this, though, we still buy an very large number of games & the hardware to run them. To me this means that there must be a reasonable fraction of those products that are worth purchasing. So, to refute the parent poster's opinion, easy of coding is _key_ as it makes it likely that a larger number of games will be published and, hence, a larger number worth purchasing.
Granted, as you've pointed out quite well, there are other factors that can/will lead to the same conclusion. Whether it's ease of development, or larger markets, anything that encourages developers/publishers to bring new games to market will better the viabilty of your target platform for gaming.
"Ha! - providing an automated tool for calling functions in Windows common to gaming, is not making the Windows platform a viable gaming platform per se, it's just making it easier to program for it." Ugh - so blind, so wrong. The biggest factor in the viability of a "gaming platform" would be the existance of games, no? If it take more effort to develope then then what the market is willing to pay _there_will_be_no_platform.
Or even, at least, set the use/pass to that of the current user by default.
Or here's a thought - Why not make M$ actively fund & develope WINE?
Hmmm, I would think that the idea of getting more hardware for the money might be a usefull bargining point. Though if Red hat were really serious about presenting something usefull to the American school system I would think they'd have to offer the one thing that would cost them $ - "value added services". I have two services in mind: 1)Tech support. The distro's are already free so offering them free isn't particularily constructive. Offering the services required to get free software _running_ - for _free_ would be something. 2)Curriculum development. With all the talk of needing to be comp literate, the clash of poor/useless certificates, & cash strapped school systems as a "captive aduience" it seems a little odd that no one (M$, RH or otherwise) have stepped forward to say: "Hey, punish M$ & make'm buy computers for every school in America (even better, say, 1 comp for every 5 students). We'll put our OS & software (guaranteed to be free & there'll never be charges for upgrades). To help with this massive influs of technology we'll fund and (partially) develope a comprehensive K12 curriculum to be streamed in over the next 15 years (2 years lead time & for deployment of basic "all ages" intro's, with a new grade to be added every year). We will promise to do this for little or no cost & will make all materials subject to an unbiased public review. We will do this because we know there is nothing else that could ever hope to increase our market share by such leaps & bounds." The only tricky part would be, assuming such a "beneficiary" wasn't, say, Larry Ellison, assuring that the provider would be able to wait 10-15 years for their "market share investment" to pay off. OTOH, while companies with open source based business plans would have a tougher time living out the next 10-15 years under such a burden they do have somewhat more to gain. A closed source firm would merely gain market share & "legitimacy" an open source firm also gains a large new chunk of developers.
I believe this is so beacuse the speed of light isn't really a constant. C is not exactly the speed of light, rather it's the speed of light _in_a_vacume_. If I remember high school physics a significate prerequisite for calculating agles of refraction was knowing the speed of light for both materials.
"The frame of reference in which the microwave background radiation of the universe is stationary" Hmmm, I'm not a physicist & it's quite possible that this statement might mean somthing other then what one would logically assume it to buuuut - where might this be? If we're talking about _radiation_ (which, I think, would be by nature moving @ C) yuo'd have to by moving @ C in the same direction, no?. To further complicate things I do believe that this radiation is detectable everywhere throughout the universe, no? It would logicaly follow that this radiation must then be moving through every point in the universe. I can't think of any scenario where this is possible if all the radiation is moving in the same direction. Hence, unless I've made some gross error the "background" radiation must be moving relative to it's self & it would therefore be impossible to view it as being "at rest"
"storing a serial number that the game uses on each CD" Beacuse this only works is each serial is unique, which means each cd would have to be unique, wich is, of course ridiculous.
Ummm, just like every no retail store could possibly make you sign a contract for, say, that nice shiny copy of XP? That's the whole problem with M$ (and many other's) EULA's - they liscence _everything_ and, by the agreement, have to agree to it just to open the box so you can read the agreement. makes me wonder why we haven't seen a class action bad faith suit....
Oh, and of course this has nothing to do with the quality of your code, does it?. Seems to me that comparing your results with those of some truly talented people who are paid simply to make their product run faster is, well, rather egotistical. I could be wong, you could just be dumb.