GPL: takes measures to protect anything that could be.
BSD License: takes measures to protect what is currently available.
The BSD License understands that the code that is released will never be lost if someone decides to close source it, and it is up to the company/whoever to decide if they want to make that purely voluntary contribution back to the community. THe GPL goes further and tries to protect code that doesnt exist yet, but doesnt give you the choice, as you said. The only choice the GPL gives you is wether or not you want to use the code in the first place, one which i always turn down and look elsewhere.
Guns dont kill people, its the bits of metal that come flying out of the end that kill people. Of course this post is crap if you decide to beat someone of the head with a gun....
, for one, am already planning to transition my company away from Microsoft software
But this sort of thing is brilliant for companies, as it cuts down on the damage a employee can do on their PC. It also restricts what data a sour employee can walk out of your company with.
I for one would like to be able to see a OpenSource application that works like a central repository and customises documents via steganograpghy whenever an employee checks out a sensative document. Then leaks can be tracked down to who checked the document out, and investigations proceed from there.
I am currently in the process of setting up a UK BSD User group system much along the lines of lug.org.uk. If you are interested or would like to volunteer services, email me at info@bsdusergroup.co.uk.
Why not start with very little and build up the features as people request them? I think thats what they are doing, as this is pretty much what phoenix did, and it works. Try it some time.
Two things have probably contributed to the number of dupes:
Increased number of Editors
Increased number of stories submitted
Increased number of editors means more people to check with before posting a story, and increased number of stories submitted means more to check through.
Bear in mind that most dupes use different links to the same stories, and are worded differently. This makes it much harder to check whether stories exist, as they may be the same story from different angles.
Hmmm. I state that retaliation is meaningless to terrorist groups. You then "riposte" by naming a list of states against whom the US has initiated military force. What point, exactly, are you trying to make?
The *point* i was trying to make that on most of the items i mentioned, they were retaliatory strikes for terrorist activities, or for activities which the US did not agree with. So while I agree with your point about retaliatory strikes against Terrorist groups was pointless, the US has very rarely limited itself to that, instead using it as a excuse to launch attacks on other States.
It might even have shaken up some of the other states that support terrorism. But do you think it has seriously acted as a deterrent to al Queada?
No, i do not think it has made a deterrant to any terrorist group anywhere. Unfortunatly, the vast majority of terrorist groups in the Middle eastern arena are based on Religious Beliefs, wether they are extremist or not. In those cases, this means they hardly care about perfipheral casualties as in their eyes, the dead will be rewarded. Please note im not trying to label all Muslims, Arabs or whoever with the same label, i am making the note that there are some willing to use those same beliefs in radical ways.
Fighting terrorism, on the other hand, is the proverbial long twilight struggle, requiring unconventional methods and holding out no clear-cut victory parade.
Yes i agree with you totally. Terrorism can hardly be dealt with by full military means. It can be more effectivly dealt with by education, understanding, and friendship, as well as proper security (im not advocating a security based regime:) ). In this case, the western world has interfered in the middle east ever since we became "civilised", and now we are reaping the rewards for our actions. Im not saying the terrorists have a legitimate reason, but there are underlying reasons which need to be looked at.
It's not the use of a nuclear weapon that you have to worry about -- except by a terrorist group, against whom retaliation would be essentially meaningless
Really? The US made it pretty meaningful to Afghanistan, and have made it pretty meaningful to Libya, Grenada, Panama and others in the past.
The concern about nations getting nukes is exactly that they will use them to blackmail their neighbors.
As an aside to the US and other countries using conventional weapons to do exactly the same?
Soooo, i wonder how many posts will appear here along the lines of those in the WebDav exploit story earlier. Not many im willing to bet.
Those people willing to shout and hollor at every serious issue, screaming bloody murder because someone got it wrong, really pisses me off. Yes people get it wrong, they write insecure code from time to time. This issue and a number of those before it show that Linux has as many opportunities for exploitation as any other OS.
Have you ever thought of making your interview decision before looking at the test results? If you know going into the interview that they "failed", that knowledge is likely altering your perception of them during the interview.
Usually two different people do the test and the interview, so essentially what you are suggesting, happens.
I also wonder if there is a gender/racial bias in the test results. If so, you're likely setting yourself up for a discrimination lawsuit. At my place of work, they make us go to training before we are allowed to interview candidates
Our interviewer is a long standing and well trained professional, and i can assure you we in no way discriminate between anything, we judge people entirely on their merits.
We use similar tests at the place where i work, and i must say, after seeing the results and the candidates, the test results are suprisingly accurate, although we have a policy of interviewing candidates whatever their results.
We usually end up rejecting all the candidates based on their interview, that the tests say we should reject anyway. It also helps us target applicants for other jobs within the company.
Ahh yes, build more wind farms. HMmm thats a idea. One problem tho, you still get the Enviromentalists after you, because now your destroying the landscape/seabed etc etc. Its happened before, when they erected these test windfarms, greenpeace was all over them for it because it damaged the look of the countryside (theres a windfarm down in devon). They also went after the offshore ones, claiming they destroyed seabed habitats.
It may not be the same factions as those demanding a increase in renewable energy, but the fact remains YOU STILL PISS SOMEONE OFF.
Way back in the mists of time, i remember two occurances of pretty much the same thing. One was a sega mega drive in the same case as a desktop PC, literally it had a place where you could plug in a cart underneath the CD bay. Also the Amiga was released with the same thing, you had a Amiga 1200 mobo and a Intel mobo in the same case, both sitting on the same scsi chain using the same drives at the same time. It was kinda expensive at the time, but useful for the people who needed both. Screen switching was done via a built in kvm or something. Thinking about it now, i think it was a extension to the Siamese which used a serial leed between two seperate cases.
I think its more of a case of European companies scratching fellow EU backs, and the same for the US companies, they dont want to be seen going away from Boeing. As time permits, as with the 747 series, companies will see that it is better to carry more passengers, and buy the product.
The Afghanistan aircraft that was held hostage a couple of years ago and flown to the UK, before the hostage takers gave themselves up and claimed asylum (and the UK government actually seriously considered the applications, well done the UK government yet again on another feat of stupidity) had to be scrapped, not because it was damaged in any way, but because it did not have UK Air Worthyness certificates. The aircraft owners did not have the money to have it certified to UK standards, so they scrapped the aircraft.
NB. as far as i know, the asylum requests were finally turned down and the men are currently serving time in UK prisons.
How about spending money to have a reverse proxy off site, in a colo somewhere, that handles which line to send it down. Clients connect to the advertised IP address for a site from DNS, which is the colo proxy/whatever, and then are either dealt with transparently, like a true proxy, or redirected to whichever line is up at the time.
Its something i have intended to look into for work, as it would jsut be a extension of what we currently use for firewalling anyways, port 80 is redirected from the gateway to a machine behind the firewall. To carryout a port 80 redirect on two publically available ips is probably jsut as trivial, infact as ive been thinking this through, i have tried it with OpenBSD on both ends and apache as the webserver, a rdr on the outside box gets my webpage fine.
Heh, i dont know about others on slashdot, but recently ive found myself coming to the limits of what is "fun" with the x86 arch, and have been looking for other architectures to play with. Thats the reason i currently have 2 RS/600s, a Alpha, numberous suns, SGI systems etc etc. Its fun to see jsut how different systems are. I have a apple airport coming, and am going to have a bash sticking linux on it.
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Ive always viewed this as:
GPL: takes measures to protect anything that could be.
BSD License: takes measures to protect what is currently available.
The BSD License understands that the code that is released will never be lost if someone decides to close source it, and it is up to the company/whoever to decide if they want to make that purely voluntary contribution back to the community. THe GPL goes further and tries to protect code that doesnt exist yet, but doesnt give you the choice, as you said. The only choice the GPL gives you is wether or not you want to use the code in the first place, one which i always turn down and look elsewhere.
Guns dont kill people, its the bits of metal that come flying out of the end that kill people. Of course this post is crap if you decide to beat someone of the head with a gun....
, for one, am already planning to transition my company away from Microsoft software
But this sort of thing is brilliant for companies, as it cuts down on the damage a employee can do on their PC. It also restricts what data a sour employee can walk out of your company with.
I for one would like to be able to see a OpenSource application that works like a central repository and customises documents via steganograpghy whenever an employee checks out a sensative document. Then leaks can be tracked down to who checked the document out, and investigations proceed from there.
I am currently in the process of setting up a UK BSD User group system much along the lines of lug.org.uk. If you are interested or would like to volunteer services, email me at info@bsdusergroup.co.uk.
Why not start with very little and build up the features as people request them? I think thats what they are doing, as this is pretty much what phoenix did, and it works. Try it some time.
FYI the US spy satellite range is the Keyhole Series. Has been taking pictures of our earth for more than 30 years.
Tho a lot isnt know about current generation (or even the past 2 generations), the US has released older footage.
- Increased number of Editors
- Increased number of stories submitted
Increased number of editors means more people to check with before posting a story, and increased number of stories submitted means more to check through.Bear in mind that most dupes use different links to the same stories, and are worded differently. This makes it much harder to check whether stories exist, as they may be the same story from different angles.
We`ve had stuff duped the same day, so a month is getting a bit better ;) Still......
The *point* i was trying to make that on most of the items i mentioned, they were retaliatory strikes for terrorist activities, or for activities which the US did not agree with. So while I agree with your point about retaliatory strikes against Terrorist groups was pointless, the US has very rarely limited itself to that, instead using it as a excuse to launch attacks on other States.
It might even have shaken up some of the other states that support terrorism. But do you think it has seriously acted as a deterrent to al Queada?No, i do not think it has made a deterrant to any terrorist group anywhere. Unfortunatly, the vast majority of terrorist groups in the Middle eastern arena are based on Religious Beliefs, wether they are extremist or not. In those cases, this means they hardly care about perfipheral casualties as in their eyes, the dead will be rewarded. Please note im not trying to label all Muslims, Arabs or whoever with the same label, i am making the note that there are some willing to use those same beliefs in radical ways.
Fighting terrorism, on the other hand, is the proverbial long twilight struggle, requiring unconventional methods and holding out no clear-cut victory parade.Yes i agree with you totally. Terrorism can hardly be dealt with by full military means. It can be more effectivly dealt with by education, understanding, and friendship, as well as proper security (im not advocating a security based regime :) ). In this case, the western world has interfered in the middle east ever since we became "civilised", and now we are reaping the rewards for our actions. Im not saying the terrorists have a legitimate reason, but there are underlying reasons which need to be looked at.
Really? The US made it pretty meaningful to Afghanistan, and have made it pretty meaningful to Libya, Grenada, Panama and others in the past.
The concern about nations getting nukes is exactly that they will use them to blackmail their neighbors.As an aside to the US and other countries using conventional weapons to do exactly the same?
Soooo, i wonder how many posts will appear here along the lines of those in the WebDav exploit story earlier. Not many im willing to bet.
Those people willing to shout and hollor at every serious issue, screaming bloody murder because someone got it wrong, really pisses me off. Yes people get it wrong, they write insecure code from time to time. This issue and a number of those before it show that Linux has as many opportunities for exploitation as any other OS.
Find me a phone book with the number for the Ku Klux Klan please.....
None, when they gave up their UNIX (xenix?) one of the clauses was that tehy couldnt own a unix OS again.
Have you ever thought of making your interview decision before looking at the test results? If you know going into the interview that they "failed", that knowledge is likely altering your perception of them during the interview.
Usually two different people do the test and the interview, so essentially what you are suggesting, happens.
I also wonder if there is a gender/racial bias in the test results. If so, you're likely setting yourself up for a discrimination lawsuit. At my place of work, they make us go to training before we are allowed to interview candidates
Our interviewer is a long standing and well trained professional, and i can assure you we in no way discriminate between anything, we judge people entirely on their merits.
We use similar tests at the place where i work, and i must say, after seeing the results and the candidates, the test results are suprisingly accurate, although we have a policy of interviewing candidates whatever their results.
We usually end up rejecting all the candidates based on their interview, that the tests say we should reject anyway. It also helps us target applicants for other jobs within the company.
Fuck laymans terms, do you speak english?!
It loads all pages as the same page name, so i dont know how wget will work with this.
Ahh yes, build more wind farms. HMmm thats a idea. One problem tho, you still get the Enviromentalists after you, because now your destroying the landscape/seabed etc etc. Its happened before, when they erected these test windfarms, greenpeace was all over them for it because it damaged the look of the countryside (theres a windfarm down in devon). They also went after the offshore ones, claiming they destroyed seabed habitats.
It may not be the same factions as those demanding a increase in renewable energy, but the fact remains YOU STILL PISS SOMEONE OFF.
Way back in the mists of time, i remember two occurances of pretty much the same thing. One was a sega mega drive in the same case as a desktop PC, literally it had a place where you could plug in a cart underneath the CD bay. Also the Amiga was released with the same thing, you had a Amiga 1200 mobo and a Intel mobo in the same case, both sitting on the same scsi chain using the same drives at the same time. It was kinda expensive at the time, but useful for the people who needed both. Screen switching was done via a built in kvm or something. Thinking about it now, i think it was a extension to the Siamese which used a serial leed between two seperate cases.
Yes but why we couldnt jsut throw them out of the country is beyond me.
I think its more of a case of European companies scratching fellow EU backs, and the same for the US companies, they dont want to be seen going away from Boeing. As time permits, as with the 747 series, companies will see that it is better to carry more passengers, and buy the product.
The Afghanistan aircraft that was held hostage a couple of years ago and flown to the UK, before the hostage takers gave themselves up and claimed asylum (and the UK government actually seriously considered the applications, well done the UK government yet again on another feat of stupidity) had to be scrapped, not because it was damaged in any way, but because it did not have UK Air Worthyness certificates. The aircraft owners did not have the money to have it certified to UK standards, so they scrapped the aircraft.
NB. as far as i know, the asylum requests were finally turned down and the men are currently serving time in UK prisons.
I prefer ROT26, as its so much faster to encrypt stuff with, and with my spelling, is undecypherable anyways!
How about spending money to have a reverse proxy off site, in a colo somewhere, that handles which line to send it down. Clients connect to the advertised IP address for a site from DNS, which is the colo proxy/whatever, and then are either dealt with transparently, like a true proxy, or redirected to whichever line is up at the time.
Its something i have intended to look into for work, as it would jsut be a extension of what we currently use for firewalling anyways, port 80 is redirected from the gateway to a machine behind the firewall. To carryout a port 80 redirect on two publically available ips is probably jsut as trivial, infact as ive been thinking this through, i have tried it with OpenBSD on both ends and apache as the webserver, a rdr on the outside box gets my webpage fine.
Heh, i dont know about others on slashdot, but recently ive found myself coming to the limits of what is "fun" with the x86 arch, and have been looking for other architectures to play with. Thats the reason i currently have 2 RS/600s, a Alpha, numberous suns, SGI systems etc etc. Its fun to see jsut how different systems are. I have a apple airport coming, and am going to have a bash sticking linux on it.