>Maybe your CD-RW driver is supported by linux. After wading through >reams of information, I found out mine is not. >That is the difference. > What kind of a shitty CD-RW drive do you have? If it's a standard IDE drive it'll work under linux with no problem.
>does not make it a fighter jet. I never understood why the open source >crowd decided to hop on the Unix horse. > > 1) We like Unix apps 2) To get as far away as possible from people like you.
>kind of ironic for slashdot to be reporting on another company being >close to bankrupt... > > > No what's ironic is that pretty much all the stock dipshit like you astrotufers bought like Enron,WorldCom ect,ect,ect has pretty much bit the bit bucket while the companies you went out of your way slamming like Redhat has managed to survive the storm so far.
>You're absolutely correct. I remember well the days when OS/2 could >have been a contender and how shockingly little was ever written about >it in PC Magazine. > It wasn't just OS/2 that got this treatment. The Atari ST and Commodore Amiga also got it, and you can bet Linux and the BSD's would have gotten it also if the Linux and BSD userbase hadn't managed to pull off a rather sucessful end run around tech magazines like PC Mag by attracting the attention of magazines like Forbes and helping build/create sites like Slashdot where people could openly express their opinion of the kinds of things that were done by the editors and "tech journalists" at magazines like PC Mag.
>Except for the few million people that already do through >subscriptions or rack purchases of "Official US Playstation Magazine", >"Xbox Nation", "Electronic Gaming Monthly", "GameNow", or "Computer >Gaming World". > > Actually "Official US Playstation Magazine" has become a fairly decent magazine when you consider the PS2 demo disk. Maybe because the PCish game "reviewers" have flocked over to "Xbox Nation" and their other PC gaming mags where they can continue promoting the delusion that people actually give a damn about the Xbox
>they don't seem to have a problem blocking anyone who figures out how >to interoperate. Legally, they are not supposed to offer "next gen" IM >over Time Warner's cable lines until they can interoperate. We shall >see." > > Who cares? Breaking into AOL's servers *IS NOT* interoperating with the AOL software and never will be. Frankly I don't see why anyone other than spammers and other vermin would care all that much about this. I'ld rather see AOL opening up it's network to Mac and other systems like Linux and BSD rather than pandering to the users of MSN and other networks.
>The problem, if you read the article, isn't lack of money to buy >bandwidth, but rather lack of money to pay writers. Just like >salon.com, lwn.net has writers that want money. > Lwn actually *PAID* people to write the stuff on their site? For what? All they basically did was stick a lwn tag on things you already knew from sites like Slashdot,Usenet and other disscusion sites and places.
>The fact is that professional websites are being put out of business >by amature websites whether they are add based or "for pay". >Slashdot is a special case because it only creates a tiny bit of >original content. > The truth is that a lot of these "professional websites" deserve to be put out of business. They tend to offer nothing but bloated graphics and poorly edited articles. How many of these "professional websites" for instance host stories concering Linux and BSD written by windows-using tech journalists who clearly didn't have a clue about either.
Face it, the people who create and maintain the "amature websites" have gotten it right. It's the "professional websites" who are run by fuck-ups like you who are running into trouble and getting what they deserve. Quite frankly the WWW was a better place before a lot of the "professional websites" started poping up and will be again after they are gone.
>Anyone know a good way to get it in the UK, BTW? None of the usual >shops lists it any longer, and there's nothing on UK E-bay. > Have you tried looking in UK department stores? Most of the retail chains like Kmart and Wal-mart in the US carry older game titles like Total Annihilation for $9.99 or less.
>became part of the history of Open Source Software Markets. However, I >still need a place where I can find maintainers or core developers of >existing Free Software packages that accept my feature request and >payment, implement the feature within a reasonable timeframe and give >me support if it doesn't work in my environment. Since no such place > > Why does this seem like something that someone involved with marketing/distrubuting Windows shareware would come up with? More you look at this the more it smells of being a front of some Fly-By-Night outfit that will "disapear" with any money within a few months of opening up shop.
>What? Check magic box [the-magicbox.com], in Japan the Xbox is being >outsold about 3:1 by the obsolete PS1!! I mean, seriously, how many >people are buying a PS1 these days when the PS2 isn't *that* much more >expensive and plays all the PS1 games as well. > > The PS1 is getting a new lease on life as a portable game console. Have you seen the PS1/LCD screen combo package? I seen it at Wal-Mart/Kmart for $149.
>Sorry, you are wrong. The Sims on the PC was a bestseller for many >months, and in terms of volume was among the top ten bestsellers list >for all platforms (PC, handheld, and consoles) for many months. > > You are wrong. PC game sales are laughable when you compare them to PS2 game sales. That's why the PC gaming crowd gets so pissy over the fact that most Linux users aren't all that interested in joining their ranks instead of buying a PS2 or GameCube.
>Absolutely. Unfortunately, technology can't directly solve that >problem... although it can help. Easy, well-documented APIs make the >developer's job easier. Nintendo and Microsoft were successful in this >area with the GC and Xbox, while Sony failed miserably with the PS2 -- >trying to code for the EE, VU0, and VU1 and making them work in >parallel is a time-consuming nightmare.
Only for Visual Basic trained lusers like you who can't port the PC-based crap games you create that runs under Windows to the PS2. No wonder you are whining about how terrible a machine is that's outselling the XFlop on the order of 4 to 1 and still rising.
>That's why we have NORTON UTILITIES for Windows, and there's none of >Linux. > There's no need for NORTON UTILITIES for Linux, dimwit. In fact there is no need nor market for the vast majority of Windows utilities or software under Unix/Linux. For example there is no need for Agent or any of the Windows newsreaders since we have Pan and other newsreaders for linux.
>Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Sorry to anyone who's sick of my >pitches. You know how it is when you're trying to get a project off >the ground... you can sound like a broken record. But there might be >one person today who could really add to the project who hasn't heard >about it yet. >I'll wait a a few months or so before mentioning it again.
>--you really need to research just hiow much "energy" is used to grow >these crops. It's not just sunlight that does it to get these sorts of >normal US yields. Try-say-growing corn or rapeseed/canola or soy on >the same farm for a few years straight without massive amounts of >fossil fuel derived fertilisers. > > How would using a Biodiesel tractor affect the use of fossil fuel derived fertilisers?!? By not using fossil fuel to drive the tractor there would be more fossil fuel availible for the production of fertilisers, right?
>And for the CD it's even more weird. A CD/DVD player has a button. >This is disabled when I mount a CD. So a mounted CD cannot be ejected. >Yet, mounting the CD when it is inserted. That's apparently asking too >much. >It's great that so many new features go into the kernel. But why can't >a simple feature like this make it into the kernel. There's no lack of >patches. > Because what you suggest is a basically stupid idea. Look at the grief Mac users got when they inserted one of damnable copy-protected cdroms.
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>The Linux kernel isn't something that'd be revered within a computer >science institution. It's been built on the principle of "this works", >rather than "This is how it should work." > And this is pretty much how the first plane to break the sound barrier (X1) was built and how basically the US got to the moon. There's a lot to be said for the "this works" approach.
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>So, for example those software look promising. But they really don't >help you if you need the solution TODAY and not next year. > Bullshit. What you do is use the software that meets your needs for moment and let the future take care of itself. But that's banwagon jumpers like you will never really understand.
>I think the point of this posting was that linux has a great deal of >powerful allies. If forbes is in league with slashdot, wow, that's a >big PR bludgeoning to redmond. > > And it's something the Amiga,OS2 and Be crowd never really managed to do even with all the noise their communities generated. I suppose it really proves that running around and screaming how "innovative" you are really accomplishes nothing when all is said and done.
>Guess what... Linux users are still a bunch of social outcasts. Spend >some time reading this site if you have any doubt about that. > So what? Most of us would still rather have the rather nice write-up in Forbes rather than a gaggle of obnoxious Amiga/Mac/Windows-warez pirates like yourself running Linux.
>The mojonation project was a fine example of something with an >excellent technical basis and incredible usage potential which was >shunned by the 'geek community' because it didn't run on Linux. >So targetting it at managers and similar IT strategists is a good move >in my opinion. > > Idiot. If the MojoNation project didn't run on Linux, why should linux users waste their time support something they wouldn't get any benefit from and wasn't interested in them?
>What....the news has lost its importance? It's not slashdot's fault if >nobody submits a story 28 seconds before the most bleeding edge >underground cocktail napkin and felt pen rag. > > And the people who run these sites wonder why Apple finally got fed up their attitude and basically told them to piss off.
> We have had this posted since Friday morning over at >LinuxLaboratory.org [linuxlaboratory.org]. Gotta love slashdot these >days. > > And who cares? Pretty much nobody.
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>Maybe your CD-RW driver is supported by linux. After wading through
>reams of information, I found out mine is not.
>That is the difference.
>
What kind of a shitty CD-RW drive do you have? If it's a standard IDE drive it'll work under linux with no problem.
>does not make it a fighter jet. I never understood why the open source
>crowd decided to hop on the Unix horse.
>
>
1) We like Unix apps
2) To get as far away as possible from people like you.
>kind of ironic for slashdot to be reporting on another company being
>close to bankrupt...
>
>
>
No what's ironic is that pretty much all the stock dipshit like you astrotufers bought like Enron,WorldCom ect,ect,ect has pretty much bit the bit bucket while the companies you went out of your way slamming like Redhat has managed to survive the storm so far.
>You're absolutely correct. I remember well the days when OS/2 could
>have been a contender and how shockingly little was ever written about
>it in PC Magazine.
>
It wasn't just OS/2 that got this treatment. The Atari ST and Commodore Amiga also got it, and you can bet Linux and the BSD's would have gotten it also if the Linux and BSD userbase hadn't managed to pull off a rather sucessful end run around tech magazines like PC Mag by attracting the attention of magazines like Forbes and helping build/create sites like Slashdot where people could openly express their opinion of the kinds of things that were done by the editors and "tech journalists" at magazines like PC Mag.
>Except for the few million people that already do through
>subscriptions or rack purchases of "Official US Playstation Magazine",
>"Xbox Nation", "Electronic Gaming Monthly", "GameNow", or "Computer
>Gaming World".
>
>
Actually "Official US Playstation Magazine" has become a fairly decent magazine when you consider the PS2 demo disk. Maybe because the PCish game "reviewers" have flocked over to "Xbox Nation" and their other PC gaming mags where they can continue promoting the delusion that people actually give a damn about the Xbox
>they don't seem to have a problem blocking anyone who figures out how
>to interoperate. Legally, they are not supposed to offer "next gen" IM
>over Time Warner's cable lines until they can interoperate. We shall
>see."
>
>
Who cares? Breaking into AOL's servers *IS NOT* interoperating with the AOL software and never will be.
Frankly I don't see why anyone other than spammers and other vermin would care all that much about this. I'ld rather see AOL opening up it's network to Mac and other systems like Linux and BSD rather than pandering to the users of MSN and other networks.
>The problem, if you read the article, isn't lack of money to buy
>bandwidth, but rather lack of money to pay writers. Just like
>salon.com, lwn.net has writers that want money.
>
Lwn actually *PAID* people to write the stuff on their site? For what? All they basically did was stick a lwn tag on things you already knew from sites like Slashdot,Usenet and other disscusion sites and places.
>The fact is that professional websites are being put out of business
>by amature websites whether they are add based or "for pay".
>Slashdot is a special case because it only creates a tiny bit of
>original content.
>
The truth is that a lot of these "professional websites" deserve to be put out of business. They tend to offer nothing but bloated graphics and poorly edited articles. How many of these "professional websites" for instance host stories concering Linux and BSD written by windows-using tech journalists who clearly didn't have a clue about either.
Face it, the people who create and maintain the "amature websites" have gotten it right. It's the "professional websites" who are run by fuck-ups like you who are running into trouble and getting what they deserve. Quite frankly the WWW was a better place before a lot of the "professional websites" started poping up and will be again after they are gone.
>Anyone know a good way to get it in the UK, BTW? None of the usual
>shops lists it any longer, and there's nothing on UK E-bay.
>
Have you tried looking in UK department stores? Most of the retail chains like Kmart and Wal-mart in the US carry older game titles like Total Annihilation for $9.99 or less.
>became part of the history of Open Source Software Markets. However, I
>still need a place where I can find maintainers or core developers of
>existing Free Software packages that accept my feature request and
>payment, implement the feature within a reasonable timeframe and give
>me support if it doesn't work in my environment. Since no such place
>
>
Why does this seem like something that someone involved with marketing/distrubuting Windows shareware would come up with? More you look at this the more it smells of being a front of some Fly-By-Night outfit that will "disapear" with any money within a few months of opening up shop.
>What? Check magic box [the-magicbox.com], in Japan the Xbox is being
>outsold about 3:1 by the obsolete PS1!! I mean, seriously, how many
>people are buying a PS1 these days when the PS2 isn't *that* much more
>expensive and plays all the PS1 games as well.
>
>
The PS1 is getting a new lease on life as a portable game console. Have you seen the PS1/LCD screen combo package? I seen it at Wal-Mart/Kmart for $149.
>Sorry, you are wrong. The Sims on the PC was a bestseller for many
>months, and in terms of volume was among the top ten bestsellers list
>for all platforms (PC, handheld, and consoles) for many months.
>
>
You are wrong. PC game sales are laughable when you compare them to PS2 game sales. That's why the PC gaming crowd gets so pissy over the fact that most Linux users aren't all that interested in joining their ranks instead of buying a PS2 or GameCube.
>Absolutely. Unfortunately, technology can't directly solve that
>problem... although it can help. Easy, well-documented APIs make the
>developer's job easier. Nintendo and Microsoft were successful in this
>area with the GC and Xbox, while Sony failed miserably with the PS2 --
>trying to code for the EE, VU0, and VU1 and making them work in
>parallel is a time-consuming nightmare.
Only for Visual Basic trained lusers like you who can't port the PC-based crap games you create that runs under Windows to the PS2. No wonder you are whining about how terrible a machine is that's outselling the XFlop on the order of 4 to 1 and still rising.
>I really don't understand why Linux is dominated by the
>head-up-the-ass attitude that users are lusers.
>
>
Look in the mirror.
>That's why we have NORTON UTILITIES for Windows, and there's none of
>Linux.
>
There's no need for NORTON UTILITIES for Linux, dimwit. In fact there is no need nor market for the vast majority of Windows utilities or software under Unix/Linux. For example there is no need for Agent or any of the Windows newsreaders since we have Pan and other newsreaders for linux.
>Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Sorry to anyone who's sick of my
>pitches. You know how it is when you're trying to get a project off
>the ground... you can sound like a broken record. But there might be
>one person today who could really add to the project who hasn't heard
>about it yet.
>I'll wait a a few months or so before mentioning it again.
>
Do us all a favor and *NEVER* mention it again.
>--you really need to research just hiow much "energy" is used to grow
>these crops. It's not just sunlight that does it to get these sorts of
>normal US yields. Try-say-growing corn or rapeseed/canola or soy on
>the same farm for a few years straight without massive amounts of
>fossil fuel derived fertilisers.
>
>
How would using a Biodiesel tractor affect the use of fossil fuel derived fertilisers?!? By not using fossil fuel to drive the tractor there would be more fossil fuel availible for the production of fertilisers, right?
>And for the CD it's even more weird. A CD/DVD player has a button.
>This is disabled when I mount a CD. So a mounted CD cannot be ejected.
>Yet, mounting the CD when it is inserted. That's apparently asking too
>much.
>It's great that so many new features go into the kernel. But why can't
>a simple feature like this make it into the kernel. There's no lack of
>patches.
>
Because what you suggest is a basically stupid idea. Look at the grief Mac users got when they inserted one of damnable copy-protected cdroms.
>The Linux kernel isn't something that'd be revered within a computer
>science institution. It's been built on the principle of "this works",
>rather than "This is how it should work."
>
And this is pretty much how the first plane to break the sound barrier (X1) was built and how basically the US got to the moon. There's a lot to be said for the "this works" approach.
>So, for example those software look promising. But they really don't
>help you if you need the solution TODAY and not next year.
>
Bullshit. What you do is use the software that meets your needs for moment and let the future take care of itself. But that's banwagon jumpers like you will never really understand.
>I think the point of this posting was that linux has a great deal of
>powerful allies. If forbes is in league with slashdot, wow, that's a
>big PR bludgeoning to redmond.
>
>
And it's something the Amiga,OS2 and Be crowd never really managed to do even with all the noise their communities generated. I suppose it really proves that running around and screaming how "innovative" you are really accomplishes nothing when all is said and done.
>Guess what... Linux users are still a bunch of social outcasts. Spend
>some time reading this site if you have any doubt about that.
>
So what? Most of us would still rather have the rather nice write-up in Forbes rather than a gaggle of obnoxious Amiga/Mac/Windows-warez pirates like yourself running Linux.
>The mojonation project was a fine example of something with an
>excellent technical basis and incredible usage potential which was
>shunned by the 'geek community' because it didn't run on Linux.
>So targetting it at managers and similar IT strategists is a good move
>in my opinion.
>
>
Idiot. If the MojoNation project didn't run on Linux, why should linux users waste their time support something they wouldn't get any benefit from and wasn't interested in them?
>What....the news has lost its importance? It's not slashdot's fault if
>nobody submits a story 28 seconds before the most bleeding edge
>underground cocktail napkin and felt pen rag.
>
>
And the people who run these sites wonder why Apple finally got fed up their attitude and basically told them to piss off.
> We have had this posted since Friday morning over at
>LinuxLaboratory.org [linuxlaboratory.org]. Gotta love slashdot these
>days.
>
>
And who cares? Pretty much nobody.