>I would rather see a native port instead of emmulation, but beggars
can't be choosers unfortuately.:-/ > > And just who's begging for these games? Pretty much nobody outside of the inbred PC-Gaming community.
>i'm curious why the recommendation when its only distribution vehicle
is the internet.. > > Because most non-PC gamers which is what most Linux users *ARE* own a PS2 or a GameCube and don't give a shit about the crappy games you PC Gamer rant about.
>fair perhaps, but moronic. how are they distinguishing them (apart >from the actual data in the files). naming schemes like >MeTaLlIcA-u n f o r g i v e n 2 (ILLEGAL COPY).mp3 >right... that's gotta be entrapment. > > Filesize. These files are going to be most likely smaller than the avergage mp3/ogg file. But any automated attack software will have use a filename in order to be work. See how the trap works now? A human would know *NOT* to download these files. Attack software wouldn't have a choice.
>You're missing the "and then afterwards attempt to illegally access >the network" part. They're *not* blacklisting anyone who just >downloads one of the fake MP3s - they're blacklisting only those that >attempt an attack on the honeypot IPs after doing so. I think they're >probably watching for stuff like port scans that they might otherwise >ignore.
There is another use for this. This tatic can be setup and used as bait in order to track down the outfits that the RIAA and MPAA hire to try and disrupt P2P networks. Once these outfits set off these "booby-traps" give the info to the script kiddies and let them do their thing.
>Read the article, fool. They absolutely are blocking access to >RIAA.org. > No, they're not. They are preventing attacks from a well-known source of Script Kiddie Hacker attacks. Pretty much everybody involed with the hacking scene knows that a large number of recent DOS attacks have originated from RIAA.org.
>You realize private corporations do a much better job than the post >office, right? I mean really, who uses the USPS to ship packages >anymore? Why not? Because compared to UPS and FedEx, they suck. > > Bullshit. Do UPS and FedEx deliver to remote rual areas like the USPS does? No they pretty much don't. Left to their own devices do you think UPS and FedEx would serve people living in the inner city? Damn right they wouldn't. They would skim off the profitable routes in the suburbs and leave the rest to the USPS. As for UPS and FedEx being better than the USPS, that's a load of BS. My brother-in-law who lives in VA buys RedHat cdroms from CheapBytes which is in CA and gets them *IN ONE OR TWO DAYS* when he tells CheapBytes to mail the cdroms to him using Priority Mail.
>Whether Sony still thinks FPS games are necessary is anyone's guess. >But I don't imagine they'll sit idly by and watch DoomIII only come >out for Xbox. That would sway a lot of users to buy an Xbox, people >who can't afford a decent PC with a decent video card. > > No it won't. Why? Basically because of Word-Of-Mouth. The vast,vast majority of the console market is composed of people who *DON'T* like or play games like DOOM3. If the PS2 and GameCube owners aren't interested in DOOM3 they aren't going to be recomending that anyone buy a XBox for it. You see, nobody is going tell their friends and family to buy something they don't care about,and the console market basically doesn't care about the Xbox or it's games.
>And don't you find it interesting that a load of geeks actually >understands serif and sans serif care-abouts? And discusses it? >Wonder if a new slashdot poll should be " favorite writing instrument" >I'll bet calligraphic pens make a good showing! > > Want to make a bet on just who are largest buyers of fountain/calligraphic pens are? Odds are it's the "engineers" rather than the "creatives". Have you ever seen a hand-lettered blueprint? Some of the lettering on them are damn *beautiful*
>I used to joke that the monopoly was a good thing in this case because >it drops these fonts everywhere and somewhat standardizes the font >choice for web developers. I don't wanna contemplate a world without >Verdana. > > Perhaps there's a silver lining in all this after all.
>You obviously never saw the movie October Sky (which is a true story). >No, the conventional way to become a rocket scientist is to build a >bunch of rockets when you are 12 (anybody shot off an Estes rocket >lately?), fall in love with it, and master the things you have to to >reach the cutting edge. > > If you recall, NASA's GEMINI program showed/proved that a lot of what the space/rocket scientists thought was wrong in a lot of cases. It showed that the best way to do something is to actually try doing something and learn from your mistakes. GEMINI's space walking missions was a perfect example of this.
>>I've worked with type designers and have, in fact, created my own >>fonts, one of which is a rendition of an older font (from the 30s) >>called Albertus. >Good. You are the kind of person the Linux community needs more of. If >there were a hundred people who had the experience you have, then I >have no doubt that the "Linux font problem" could be solved rather >quickly. > > No, we *DON'T* need this kind of person. If you didn't notice, this guy is some kind of consultant,agent or some similar kind of parasite. Of course he/she doesn't want to see the Linux community developing their own fonts and other things that's along similar lines. Don't get fooled by these people. This person is most likekly the font world version of a cripple/shareware author.
>Your elitist attitude only serves to drive away new users to the Linux >community. > Quite frankly people like you *NEED* to be driven away. It's one of the big mistakes the Amiga userbase made. By not driving away people like you, they let you turn the Amiga into a dead-end video editor which pretty much drive away everybody who wasn't interested in video editing.
>f that's true, how come it is having such an easy time competing with >the PS2 or GameCube? > It's not, and you are either a fool or a idiot if you think the Xbox is. The Xbox has a market niche similar to what the Amiga has. It'll never really pose a threat to either the PS2 or the GameCube basically because the PS2 and GameCube market is different from the Xbox market. You PC gamers will never come to terms with this it sems like.
>I dropped Linux as my desktop last month because, even with the MS
fonts, it was just too bleedin' hard on my esyes. > > Good for you. Now go away and never come back. I *ALWAYS* suspected that the reason you UI sheep kept bleating about how little *respect* you get from the Open Source/Free Software community was the fact that you morons wanted us to do the grunt work of *impleating* the lame/shoddy ideas you kept coming with for UI designs so you can come along later and grab all the credit for the work since this kind of work really isn't being done at colleges and univeristies anymore.
> Er, this is John Carmack - he can do whatever the hell he likes! >Really, even Redmond know how much money he can make (or cost) them. >If there ever was a case of the tail wagging the dog, it's him. >Likewise, I'm guessing Sony offered him the Earth to get a PS2 version >of Doom III...
> > Why would Sony do that? Games like Doom aren't all that popular among PS2 owners. Want proof? Take a look at any list of top-selling games for the PS2 and you'll won't find a FPSish game like DOOM III among the top ranked PS2 games in terms of sales. If anything the PS/PS2 ports of DOOM/UC was done so the ID would attract the attention of the PS2 market not the other way around. After all the average PS2 owner doesn't know or care who John Carmack is. ID games aren't that big of a deal in the PS2 market.
Of just how much of a *dog* {woof,woof} this movie is going to be.
Too bad they won't bring Khan back from wherever he is to hunt down Kirk. Can't you hear Khan ranting at Picard "What do you mean Kirk's dead?! Kirk isn't dead untill *I* say he is!!! Khan then proceeds to blow Picard and the Enterprise Whatever out of space, and then does the same with Starfleet,Klingons,Romulans and anyone stupid enough to get in his way,all the while screaming "YOU CAN'T HIDE FROM ME,KIRK!!!"
>
the Chinese government no longer considers itself to be "Communist".
Not meant to flame: but how does it consider itself now? Socialist? I
don't know... I know that there are more economical liberties in China
now, but that doesn't really make it less communist. > > China was never "Communist". It was a Maoist state.
>Otherwise, if you want better audio editing in Cinelerra, get out the >source and your text editor and start coding. I seriously don't >understand what all the complaining is about here. > > You're basically dealing with a bunch of lusers from the Amiga community who can't stand the thought that people are creating Linux Audio and Video Software without obtaining their approval or consent.
>Just when I thought programming the PS3 couldn't be any *worse* the >then PS2 (lots of fun debugging the EE, VU0, VU1, GS, SPU, IOP all >running simulatenously on the PS2:), along comes 'linked' cpus. Sure >parallelization rocks for performance, but it's a head ache for game >design & implementation. This is one thing the X-Box got right - port >your PC game over in days, not months. > > And what makes you think the PS2 market would stand for ports of PC games? You are a major idiot if you think the typical PS2 owner follows or even cares about the PC Gaming scene. In fact I dare you to find a PS2 owner who even knows or much cares who the players are in PC Gaming. You sound like some PC game programer who's pissed off that you'll pretty much never get a job working at a PS2 Game company because you're not good enough to. Which is as things should be,
>He Slashdot people, I have been wondering about multimedia and Open >Source, Linux etc for quit some time. Remember BeOS which should >result in an operating system designed for the multimedia >professional, well I have been wondering how much is available for the >multimedia professional in the Open Source, Linux,etc community. >Especially after this news. > > Heh. It's really amusing watching people like you post your "opinions" as if the people the people involved with this project is going to listen to you. They're not. They got their own ideas as to where they want to go and I don't really seem them as really being all that interested in catering to morons like you. This project seems to be more focused on developing/packaging software that runs on linux, not kissing up to Multimedia Oriented Dimwits like you.
>They've likely got the momentum to take them the long haul, but it may >be in for rough waters ahead. > > No, It's the parasites like you who will be in for rough waters ahead. A real pity that your Enron and WorldCom shares are as close to being worthless as you can possibly get. If there's justice in this world,people like you will end up losing every fucking thing you put into the stock market.
>Please read what I've posted and, more importantly, what I have not. >By threatening CD Distributors with Trade Mark infringement, Red Hat >has made selling exact copies of their CD more difficult. >Do we like it? No. > > And why should we give a damn that RedHat is life difficult for assholes like you or that we have a problem with it? You don't like what Redhat's doing? Then quit selling Linux Cdroms and go back to what you were doing at first ripping off Windows Shareware from places like Simtel and reselling it on Ebay.
>I guess what it really comes down to is reality. If we wanted to sell >copies of Red Hat Linux 7.3 on eBay, or on our website, how are we >going to do that now? > > Who cares? I'm *GLAD* Redhat is telling parasites from the Windows shareware world that you can't pass off the cdroms you burn as being supported by RedHat. Whine and bitch all you want, most of us don't give a damn about you.
>for you to collect, the e-mail must have been sent FROM an Ohio >company FROM an Ohio ISP TO an Ohio recipient. Obviously, no one is >going to send spam from Utah/Ohio anymore. This serves to making their >Spam-friendly ISPs uncompetitive, which ultimately only hurts the >state. > How is this going to hurt the state? It's not like spammers were paying any sort of sales or income tax to begin with.
>Here's a thought: Get a real OS that runs 90% of the world's software >and you won't have these problems. > > Here's a better thought: Quit buying games for the PC and get a PS2 or GameCube and buy PS2/GameCube games instead. That way pretty much none of the money goes to support PC Gaming whatsoever.
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>I would rather see a native port instead of emmulation, but beggars :-/
can't be choosers unfortuately.
>
>
And just who's begging for these games? Pretty much nobody outside of the inbred PC-Gaming community.
>i'm curious why the recommendation when its only distribution vehicle
is the internet..
>
>
Because most non-PC gamers which is what most Linux users *ARE* own a PS2 or a GameCube and don't give a shit about the crappy games you PC Gamer rant about.
>fair perhaps, but moronic. how are they distinguishing them (apart
>from the actual data in the files). naming schemes like
>MeTaLlIcA-u n f o r g i v e n 2 (ILLEGAL COPY).mp3
>right... that's gotta be entrapment.
>
>
Filesize. These files are going to be most likely smaller than the avergage mp3/ogg file. But any automated attack software will have use a filename in order to be work. See how the trap works now? A human would know *NOT* to download these files. Attack software wouldn't have a choice.
>You're missing the "and then afterwards attempt to illegally access
>the network" part. They're *not* blacklisting anyone who just
>downloads one of the fake MP3s - they're blacklisting only those that
>attempt an attack on the honeypot IPs after doing so. I think they're
>probably watching for stuff like port scans that they might otherwise
>ignore.
There is another use for this. This tatic can be setup and used as bait in order to track down the outfits that the RIAA and MPAA hire to try and disrupt P2P networks. Once these outfits set off these "booby-traps" give the info to the script kiddies and let them do their thing.
>Read the article, fool. They absolutely are blocking access to
>RIAA.org.
>
No, they're not. They are preventing attacks from a well-known source of Script Kiddie Hacker attacks. Pretty much everybody involed with the hacking scene knows that a large number of recent DOS attacks have originated from RIAA.org.
>You realize private corporations do a much better job than the post
>office, right? I mean really, who uses the USPS to ship packages
>anymore? Why not? Because compared to UPS and FedEx, they suck.
>
>
Bullshit. Do UPS and FedEx deliver to remote rual areas like the USPS does? No they pretty much don't. Left to their own devices do you think UPS and FedEx would serve people living in the inner city? Damn right they wouldn't. They would skim off the profitable routes in the suburbs and leave the rest to the USPS. As for UPS and FedEx being better than the USPS, that's a load of BS. My brother-in-law who lives in VA buys RedHat cdroms from CheapBytes which is in CA and gets them *IN ONE OR TWO DAYS* when he tells CheapBytes to mail the cdroms to him using Priority Mail.
>Whether Sony still thinks FPS games are necessary is anyone's guess.
>But I don't imagine they'll sit idly by and watch DoomIII only come
>out for Xbox. That would sway a lot of users to buy an Xbox, people
>who can't afford a decent PC with a decent video card.
>
>
No it won't. Why? Basically because of Word-Of-Mouth. The vast,vast majority of the console market is composed of people who *DON'T* like or play games like DOOM3. If the PS2 and GameCube owners aren't interested in DOOM3 they aren't going to be recomending that anyone buy a XBox for it. You see, nobody is going tell their friends and family to buy something they don't care about,and the console market basically doesn't care about the Xbox or it's games.
>And don't you find it interesting that a load of geeks actually
>understands serif and sans serif care-abouts? And discusses it?
>Wonder if a new slashdot poll should be " favorite writing instrument"
>I'll bet calligraphic pens make a good showing!
>
>
Want to make a bet on just who are largest buyers of fountain/calligraphic pens are? Odds are it's the "engineers" rather than the "creatives". Have you ever seen a hand-lettered blueprint? Some of the lettering on them are damn *beautiful*
>I used to joke that the monopoly was a good thing in this case because
>it drops these fonts everywhere and somewhat standardizes the font
>choice for web developers. I don't wanna contemplate a world without
>Verdana.
>
>
Perhaps there's a silver lining in all this after all.
>You obviously never saw the movie October Sky (which is a true story).
>No, the conventional way to become a rocket scientist is to build a
>bunch of rockets when you are 12 (anybody shot off an Estes rocket
>lately?), fall in love with it, and master the things you have to to
>reach the cutting edge.
>
>
If you recall, NASA's GEMINI program showed/proved that a lot of what the space/rocket scientists thought was wrong in a lot of cases. It showed that the best way to do something is to actually try doing something and learn from your mistakes. GEMINI's space walking missions was a perfect example of this.
>>I've worked with type designers and have, in fact, created my own
>>fonts, one of which is a rendition of an older font (from the 30s)
>>called Albertus.
>Good. You are the kind of person the Linux community needs more of. If
>there were a hundred people who had the experience you have, then I
>have no doubt that the "Linux font problem" could be solved rather
>quickly.
>
>
No, we *DON'T* need this kind of person. If you didn't notice, this guy is some kind of consultant,agent or some similar kind of parasite. Of course he/she doesn't want to see the Linux community developing their own fonts and other things that's along similar lines. Don't get fooled by these people. This person is most likekly the font world version of a cripple/shareware author.
>Your elitist attitude only serves to drive away new users to the Linux
>community.
>
Quite frankly people like you *NEED* to be driven away. It's one of the big mistakes the Amiga userbase made. By not driving away people like you, they let you turn the Amiga into a dead-end video editor which pretty much drive away everybody who wasn't interested in video editing.
>f that's true, how come it is having such an easy time competing with
>the PS2 or GameCube?
>
It's not, and you are either a fool or a idiot if you think the Xbox is. The Xbox has a market niche similar to what the Amiga has. It'll never really pose a threat to either the PS2 or the GameCube basically because the PS2 and GameCube market is different from the Xbox market. You PC gamers will never come to terms with this it sems like.
>I dropped Linux as my desktop last month because, even with the MS
fonts, it was just too bleedin' hard on my esyes.
>
>
Good for you. Now go away and never come back. I *ALWAYS* suspected that the reason you UI sheep kept bleating about how little *respect* you get from the Open Source/Free Software community was the fact that you morons wanted us to do the grunt work of *impleating* the lame/shoddy ideas you kept coming with for UI designs so you can come along later and grab all the credit for the work since this kind of work really isn't being done at colleges and univeristies anymore.
> Er, this is John Carmack - he can do whatever the hell he likes!
>Really, even Redmond know how much money he can make (or cost) them.
>If there ever was a case of the tail wagging the dog, it's him.
>Likewise, I'm guessing Sony offered him the Earth to get a PS2 version
>of Doom III...
>
>
Why would Sony do that? Games like Doom aren't all that popular among PS2 owners. Want proof? Take a look at any list of top-selling games for the PS2 and you'll won't find a FPSish game like DOOM III among the top ranked PS2 games in terms of sales. If anything the PS/PS2 ports of DOOM/UC was done so the ID would attract the attention of the PS2 market not the other way around. After all the average PS2 owner doesn't know or care who John Carmack is. ID games aren't that big of a deal in the PS2 market.
Of just how much of a *dog* {woof,woof} this movie is going to be.
Too bad they won't bring Khan back from wherever he is to hunt down Kirk. Can't you hear Khan ranting at Picard "What do you mean Kirk's dead?! Kirk isn't dead untill *I* say he is!!! Khan then proceeds to blow Picard and the Enterprise Whatever out of space, and then does the same with Starfleet,Klingons,Romulans and anyone stupid enough to get in his way,all the while screaming "YOU CAN'T HIDE FROM ME,KIRK!!!"
>
the Chinese government no longer considers itself to be "Communist".
Not meant to flame: but how does it consider itself now? Socialist? I
don't know... I know that there are more economical liberties in China
now, but that doesn't really make it less communist.
>
>
China was never "Communist". It was a Maoist state.
>Otherwise, if you want better audio editing in Cinelerra, get out the
>source and your text editor and start coding. I seriously don't
>understand what all the complaining is about here.
>
>
You're basically dealing with a bunch of lusers from the Amiga community who can't stand the thought that people are creating Linux Audio and Video Software without obtaining their approval or consent.
>Just when I thought programming the PS3 couldn't be any *worse* the
>then PS2 (lots of fun debugging the EE, VU0, VU1, GS, SPU, IOP all
>running simulatenously on the PS2
>parallelization rocks for performance, but it's a head ache for game
>design & implementation. This is one thing the X-Box got right - port
>your PC game over in days, not months.
>
>
And what makes you think the PS2 market would stand for ports of PC games? You are a major idiot if you think the typical PS2 owner follows or even cares about the PC Gaming scene. In fact I dare you to find a PS2 owner who even knows or much cares who the players are in PC Gaming. You sound like some PC game programer who's pissed off that you'll pretty much never get a job working at a PS2 Game company because you're not good enough to. Which is as things should be,
>He Slashdot people, I have been wondering about multimedia and Open
>Source, Linux etc for quit some time. Remember BeOS which should
>result in an operating system designed for the multimedia
>professional, well I have been wondering how much is available for the
>multimedia professional in the Open Source, Linux,etc community.
>Especially after this news.
>
>
Heh. It's really amusing watching people like you post your "opinions" as if the people the people involved with this project is going to listen to you. They're not. They got their own ideas as to where they want to go and I don't really seem them as really being all that interested in catering to morons like you. This project seems to be more focused on developing/packaging software that runs on linux, not kissing up to Multimedia Oriented Dimwits like you.
>They've likely got the momentum to take them the long haul, but it may
>be in for rough waters ahead.
>
>
No, It's the parasites like you who will be in for rough waters ahead. A real pity that your Enron and WorldCom shares are as close to being worthless as you can possibly get. If there's justice in this world,people like you will end up losing every fucking thing you put into the stock market.
>Please read what I've posted and, more importantly, what I have not.
>By threatening CD Distributors with Trade Mark infringement, Red Hat
>has made selling exact copies of their CD more difficult.
>Do we like it? No.
>
>
And why should we give a damn that RedHat is life difficult for assholes like you or that we have a problem with it? You don't like what Redhat's doing? Then quit selling Linux Cdroms and go back to what you were doing at first ripping off Windows Shareware from places like Simtel and reselling it on Ebay.
>I guess what it really comes down to is reality. If we wanted to sell
>copies of Red Hat Linux 7.3 on eBay, or on our website, how are we
>going to do that now?
>
>
Who cares? I'm *GLAD* Redhat is telling parasites from the Windows shareware world that you can't pass off the cdroms you burn as being supported by RedHat. Whine and bitch all you want, most of us don't give a damn about you.
>for you to collect, the e-mail must have been sent FROM an Ohio
>company FROM an Ohio ISP TO an Ohio recipient. Obviously, no one is
>going to send spam from Utah/Ohio anymore. This serves to making their
>Spam-friendly ISPs uncompetitive, which ultimately only hurts the
>state.
>
How is this going to hurt the state? It's not like spammers were paying any sort of sales or income tax to begin with.
>Here's a thought: Get a real OS that runs 90% of the world's software
>and you won't have these problems.
>
>
Here's a better thought: Quit buying games for the PC and get a PS2 or GameCube and buy PS2/GameCube games instead. That way pretty much none of the money goes to support PC Gaming whatsoever.