It runs MySQL, will run Open-Xchange with some tweaks (a distro better suited to server work like Red Hat/Fedora would be the obvious choice for a server), with Evolution replacing Outlook since you don't seem to know much about Linux apps, and can run OpenOffice, which is about to run clean over the MSXML speedbump. [oooninja.com] What functionality are you missing?
Are you trying to say that Open-Xchange is as good as Exchange? Or that MySQL comes close to SQL2005? Don't get me wrong, I love MySQL and I love open office, and I love Ubuntu, but if you seriously think that it's in a position to "beat" windows, you're kidding yourself. Do you have any idea what people are really doing with Microsoft products that simply can't be done on Linux.
I get it, microsoft is evil. You think their products are crap. Ok. I guess you could make an argument for various sectors of the user base, but c'mon. Try and run an enterprise without Microsoft products and let me know how that works out for you.
Looks serious. HAVE you tried the latest Ubuntu, or even the second latest?
Yeah I have. And the third and forth latest too. Last time I checked it still didn't run SQL 2005, Exchange, office 2007, etc. I think that it's funny (or cute even) to think that linux is ever going to beat windows. (at least in the near future)
I think that the bigger proof is that their product sucks ass. Go try and use it. I looked for "aes zip linux" and got 0 results. 0 results? Really? You index *more* than google and you can't find ONE reference to "aes zip linux"? I tried to use that thing, but it doesn't seem to enjoy providing me with any results. To me *that* is proof that they are a bubble company. Where's the beef?
Exactly. When I can get panels on my roof for under $5k I'll do it for sure (I'll consider it for under $10k), but until them it's just not practical for me - especially considering Atlanta is a lot more cloudy than California is in my opinion. Solar power is awesome, but no company has found a way to scale the manufacturing up enough yet.
I'm with you. Too expensive an investment. I'm sure it's only going to be inside of 5 years that that number will approach the happy point of like 7-10G for what this man did.
However, I too live in Atlanta, and was surprised to find out that we get plenty of sun for solar power to be a viable option. I had a few companies quote my house and was told I could expect 80% efficiency given the amount of sun around here.
It sure will. Even in California or here in Florida you have fewer hours of sun in the winter. Since most people on solar are trying to live on far less energy than a human needs to be comfortable in order to utilize technology that simply isn't cost effective yet, I have no doubt they will be borrowing from the grid in winter.
Of course, if you'd RTFA, you'd know that the author mentioned that and figured his overall power bill to go from $4000 to roughly $1000 yearly.
You'd also have known that he states his power usage is higher than your typical family home due to the fact that both he and his wife work from home, he's got two teenage daughters, a pc lab, and pretty hdtv setups around his house. (thus the $4000/yr electric bill in the first place)
If you wanted to be a crotchety bitch, which clearly you did, you would have mentioned that it'll take him roughly 11-15 years to recoup his investment of $40,000 for the equipment and setup. That's what I'd go with.
Have you ever applied for an SSL certificate? It's a PITA, because you do have to provide the issuer with a load of documentation (usually comprising of some legal documents such as your employer's charter et al, plus evidence you do, actually, work for them) to confirm you're who you say you are.
What are you talking about? I buy SSL certificates ALL THE TIME, and it couldn't be easier. It's easier than buying the domain name.
It's automatic and happens in seconds these days. I have no idea where you get your certs from but yo, you don't seem like you know what the hell you're talking about.
The terminal was flaky (underscores left drool all over it), the editor was like a bastard combination of SimpleText and Win3.0 Notepad.exe with all the good stuff thrown away and all the annoying stuff amplified, and beyond those things, a movie player and a half-assed web browser there was nothing else.
Yeah, but that GL_Teapot...c'mon. What more do you need?
e. The restriction was quite extreme - Microsoft blocked several companies from even shipping a BeOS CD in the same box as a "BeOS PC" - I think Fujitsu actually shipped PC's for a little while with no OS, and a form that you could fill out and send them so that they would FedEx you a copy of BeOS. Of course, since they had to pay for Windows anyway, the BeOS PC was not only more complex (you had to order the install CD, then do the OS install) but cost more (since you had to pay for both Windows and BeOS).
To add a little more accuracy to your post, it wasn't that at all. It was the bootloader agreement. The deal microsoft made was to make sure that if they installed Windows, then they HAD to use the MS bootloader. Since the beos couldn't boot from the MS bootloader, or any other non MS os for that matter, MS made sure that windows was the only os that could be used. If it were not for the bootloader deal, then the BeOS could have been installed and you could have dual booted windows and the beos with the beos boot loader.
That is my understanding of the situation as explained by JLG.
BeOS was dying at that time. All Microsoft's pressure did was put a stake in its heart.
You're wrong. BeOS was thriving at the time. In fact, when the bootloader thing became public, Compaq had made an agreement with BeOS to install BeOS on every machine they made along with windows. They were going to dual boot through the Beos bootloader, until microsoft brought to their (compaq's) attention that their agreement said that if Windows was installed, it HAD to be loaded with the MS bootloader, which couldn't boot any non-ms product. That's how they got hosed. They weren't dying, they were thriving. That pretty much stopped the train.
Not really, but I mean, if you were a fly on the wall of most places, they aren't properly set up machines (they are minimally set up out-of-the-box setups) so I don't think it's 'simple' as such although everything is easy if you know how.
Kind of a foolish argument though. If you bought a car, you'd expect to maintain it and if you didn't it'd break and you'd risk death. I find it to be queer that nobody expects computers, or OSs, to require regular maintenance. Simple, complicated or whatever, it's a fact. I think the mistake is not clearly explaining to the masses that computers are complicated systems that require regular "check ups" that any user can perform themselves.
And seriously, the "real" world is full of the same stuff. If you're not carefull walking in a crowded place, you can get pickpocketed. If you're not carefull about what you view online, you can get pickpocketed. Again, I think the big mistake is trying to pretend that there can be a situation in the computer and online world where you don't need to be carefull and don't need to think about maintenence and system health. (The whole chaos theory deal and all...)
1000 years worth assuming how many reactors covering how large a percent of our energy needs? The reserve is based on the current price of the material and the current drain on that reserve. So actually, if the price goes up, that means there's more available because you can spend more to get to it. Kinda like the oil reserve. The more the price spikes, the more that can be spent on drilling, recovery, refining, etc. So there you have it.
MSFT doesn't innovate, they let other people come up with good ideas and then implement it themselves poorly. or as the saying goes MSFT reinventing unix poorly for 25 years. While there are time when MSFT has been ahead in some departments. the infamous database filesystem(now winFS) was started because of the database filesystem BeFS way back in the mid 90's. You miss the point. If there was no dominant platform, more time would have been spent on developing platforms. I mean look at the linux space right now. 100's of distros with no particular one standing out. (Ok, lately Ubuntu has been rising but whatever) If there was one dominant distro, and everyone who spent time working on various other distros collaborated on *one*, think of where it would be now a days. Think of all the time wasted. (ok, wasted might be a little harsh but I think the point has been made) No?
Pennies are only legal tender to satisfy debts not to exceed 25 cents. Beyond that, the recipient has the option to refuse. That's the stupidest thing I've heard today. Where do you get your information?
"United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts. "
Reminds me of a debt my father picked up from a school my sister attended for less then a week. Someone my wife knows paid $289,000 in back property taxes (that he claimed he didn't owe) in unrolled pennies. Think: dump truck. Think: 3 loads.
Sign up for a gazillion Paypal accounts, use ONE bank account, and after Paypal
deposits the money, withdraw the money and close the account. Tried it. Paypal doesn't allow multiple accounts with the same bank account information.
The thing you have forgotten is that a lot, not all, of New Yorkers suffer from NYC Syndrome I think most New Yorkers believe that NYC = the five boroughs = the universe. I think it's the one's outside NY that forget the other 4 boroughs.
This isn't true anymore, and hasn't been for some time. Yes. It *is* still true. How's CNN for you...or perhaps you're a Motor Trend type guy?..."the Benz's level of quality is deep fried to the bone."
Yes the Caddy is better, but the MB is still more expensive for a reason beyond the badge.
You pay premium for the Mercedes badge, more than anything It's easy to say that for both your analogy and for Apple, but the truth is, the Mercedes is designed and built better than the caddy. It just is. Does it still go from A to B? Yeah sure. It's a bad analogy for you though because it proves the parent's point. The s-class mercedes is just designed and built to a higher level of quality than the caddy. That's why you pay for it. You might like that the badge makes you look cool, but the MB reputation is there for a reason. It's not the price tag.
You may be right since you said "NYC", which refers to the city proper, rather than "New York", which refers to all five boroughs collectively. Um...the five boroughs ARE the city proper. NYC is more than just Manhattan. "New York" would refer to the state.
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Isn't that kinda/sorta like saying that a ferrari sucks becuase you can't shove a ford engine into it?
If you're job is hauling carpet...then yeah. That's what I'm trying to say.
It runs MySQL, will run Open-Xchange with some tweaks (a distro better suited to server work like Red Hat/Fedora would be the obvious choice for a server), with Evolution replacing Outlook since you don't seem to know much about Linux apps, and can run OpenOffice, which is about to run clean over the MSXML speedbump. [oooninja.com] What functionality are you missing?
Are you trying to say that Open-Xchange is as good as Exchange? Or that MySQL comes close to SQL2005? Don't get me wrong, I love MySQL and I love open office, and I love Ubuntu, but if you seriously think that it's in a position to "beat" windows, you're kidding yourself. Do you have any idea what people are really doing with Microsoft products that simply can't be done on Linux.
I get it, microsoft is evil. You think their products are crap. Ok. I guess you could make an argument for various sectors of the user base, but c'mon. Try and run an enterprise without Microsoft products and let me know how that works out for you.
Looks serious. HAVE you tried the latest Ubuntu, or even the second latest?
Yeah I have. And the third and forth latest too. Last time I checked it still didn't run SQL 2005, Exchange, office 2007, etc. I think that it's funny (or cute even) to think that linux is ever going to beat windows. (at least in the near future)
I think that the bigger proof is that their product sucks ass. Go try and use it. I looked for "aes zip linux" and got 0 results. 0 results? Really? You index *more* than google and you can't find ONE reference to "aes zip linux"? I tried to use that thing, but it doesn't seem to enjoy providing me with any results. To me *that* is proof that they are a bubble company. Where's the beef?
I hear what you're saying, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em!" But I really think we can beat 'em. Have you tried the latest Ubuntu?
I'm not sure if you're kidding or serious, but if I had mod points, you'd be getting +1Funny from me. Like, ROTFLOLz for me.
Anyone else remember Oracle's ad campaign claiming to be "unbreakable"?
I'm constantly amazed that companies (and fan boyz) still have the stones to make that claim about anything. Same with Mac..."It Just Works"...
Exactly. When I can get panels on my roof for under $5k I'll do it for sure (I'll consider it for under $10k), but until them it's just not practical for me - especially considering Atlanta is a lot more cloudy than California is in my opinion. Solar power is awesome, but no company has found a way to scale the manufacturing up enough yet.
I'm with you. Too expensive an investment. I'm sure it's only going to be inside of 5 years that that number will approach the happy point of like 7-10G for what this man did.
However, I too live in Atlanta, and was surprised to find out that we get plenty of sun for solar power to be a viable option. I had a few companies quote my house and was told I could expect 80% efficiency given the amount of sun around here.
It sure will. Even in California or here in Florida you have fewer hours of sun in the winter. Since most people on solar are trying to live on far less energy than a human needs to be comfortable in order to utilize technology that simply isn't cost effective yet, I have no doubt they will be borrowing from the grid in winter.
Of course, if you'd RTFA, you'd know that the author mentioned that and figured his overall power bill to go from $4000 to roughly $1000 yearly.
You'd also have known that he states his power usage is higher than your typical family home due to the fact that both he and his wife work from home, he's got two teenage daughters, a pc lab, and pretty hdtv setups around his house. (thus the $4000/yr electric bill in the first place)
If you wanted to be a crotchety bitch, which clearly you did, you would have mentioned that it'll take him roughly 11-15 years to recoup his investment of $40,000 for the equipment and setup. That's what I'd go with.
Have you ever applied for an SSL certificate? It's a PITA, because you do have to provide the issuer with a load of documentation (usually comprising of some legal documents such as your employer's charter et al, plus evidence you do, actually, work for them) to confirm you're who you say you are.
What are you talking about? I buy SSL certificates ALL THE TIME, and it couldn't be easier. It's easier than buying the domain name. It's automatic and happens in seconds these days. I have no idea where you get your certs from but yo, you don't seem like you know what the hell you're talking about.
The terminal was flaky (underscores left drool all over it), the editor was like a bastard combination of SimpleText and Win3.0 Notepad.exe with all the good stuff thrown away and all the annoying stuff amplified, and beyond those things, a movie player and a half-assed web browser there was nothing else.
Yeah, but that GL_Teapot...c'mon. What more do you need?
I'd still take BeOS over OS X, if there were any decent apps for it, and current development.
And an official network stack that actually worked. (And real multi-user capability)
e. The restriction was quite extreme - Microsoft blocked several companies from even shipping a BeOS CD in the same box as a "BeOS PC" - I think Fujitsu actually shipped PC's for a little while with no OS, and a form that you could fill out and send them so that they would FedEx you a copy of BeOS. Of course, since they had to pay for Windows anyway, the BeOS PC was not only more complex (you had to order the install CD, then do the OS install) but cost more (since you had to pay for both Windows and BeOS).
To add a little more accuracy to your post, it wasn't that at all. It was the bootloader agreement. The deal microsoft made was to make sure that if they installed Windows, then they HAD to use the MS bootloader. Since the beos couldn't boot from the MS bootloader, or any other non MS os for that matter, MS made sure that windows was the only os that could be used. If it were not for the bootloader deal, then the BeOS could have been installed and you could have dual booted windows and the beos with the beos boot loader. That is my understanding of the situation as explained by JLG.
BeOS was dying at that time. All Microsoft's pressure did was put a stake in its heart.
You're wrong. BeOS was thriving at the time. In fact, when the bootloader thing became public, Compaq had made an agreement with BeOS to install BeOS on every machine they made along with windows. They were going to dual boot through the Beos bootloader, until microsoft brought to their (compaq's) attention that their agreement said that if Windows was installed, it HAD to be loaded with the MS bootloader, which couldn't boot any non-ms product. That's how they got hosed. They weren't dying, they were thriving. That pretty much stopped the train.
Not really, but I mean, if you were a fly on the wall of most places, they aren't properly set up machines (they are minimally set up out-of-the-box setups) so I don't think it's 'simple' as such although everything is easy if you know how.
Kind of a foolish argument though. If you bought a car, you'd expect to maintain it and if you didn't it'd break and you'd risk death. I find it to be queer that nobody expects computers, or OSs, to require regular maintenance. Simple, complicated or whatever, it's a fact. I think the mistake is not clearly explaining to the masses that computers are complicated systems that require regular "check ups" that any user can perform themselves.
And seriously, the "real" world is full of the same stuff. If you're not carefull walking in a crowded place, you can get pickpocketed. If you're not carefull about what you view online, you can get pickpocketed. Again, I think the big mistake is trying to pretend that there can be a situation in the computer and online world where you don't need to be carefull and don't need to think about maintenence and system health. (The whole chaos theory deal and all...)
what goes after Server0003?
Profit!
Um...it's time for www.clownpenis.fart.
"United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts. "
Yes the Caddy is better, but the MB is still more expensive for a reason beyond the badge.