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Line Forms At Apple's Always-Open Manhattan Cube
SpectreBlofeld writes "According to EngadgetMobile, a line has formed in front of Apple's flagship Cube store in Manhattan. From the article: 'So word on the street (literally) is that a large number of people are queuing in line outside of Apple's flagship store on 5th Avenue in New York City — keep in mind the Cube is open 24 hours a day. Our intrepid girl-on-the-scene reports that the group is more than 60-deep, though most people seem confused about what they're waiting for, but some believe they're actually camping out for a 3G iPhone.' Prank, or mass hysteria?" I wonder if the crowd already has its own Flickr group set up -- if not, what are they waiting for on that front?
It's apple people. What ELSE could it be but mass hysteria? ;)
Does this remind anybody else of the Eloi gathering to be taken underground by the Morlocks?
"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right" - Salvor Hardin
You know Apple fandom is getting excessive when a product doesn't even need to exist to get hyped...
So the link is "iphone-line-forms-at-apples-flagship-for-absolutely-no-reason." It seems quite obvious that the reason is marketing. Same as when there were lines at Apple stores selling iphones but not at AT&T stores selling iphones.
This post climbed Mt. Washington.
I wouldn't doubt that this UCB or a similar group just screwing with our minds.
People lining up in front of stores in the hope that maybe there will be something for sale that they are after - sounds like the Soviet Union to me!
And the Lord Jobs did address the faithfully assembled masses, saying "Unto you my loyal supplicants I do bestow the bounty of the 3G iPhone, that ye may use it at all times, and in sickness, and in health, and in times of pestilence and low bandwidth, and it shall comfort thee."
And then did the Lord Jobs hand out the Holy 3G iPhone unto the chosen who harkened unto him, and it was good.
Maybe it's the same people who pulled off this stunt? http://improveverywhere.com/2006/04/23/best-buy/
To beg for gasoline money.
I think that's up for debate, and really, this is most likely a social prank, not a mass gathering to encourage Apple to speed up production of the i[newest-product-name-goes-here].
Even on engadget this was non-news.
Quack, quack.
Did anyone else read that as "intrepid girl-on-girl-scene"?
After that, the rest of the article is something of a blur...
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
Some people are sheep. Others are sheep dogs or wolves.
But most are none of the above.
Twitter, you need to learn the basic rules of social interaction.
That Apple employee did NOT care about your stupid canned lecture about Free Software(tm).
They didn't demonstrate setting up dual-booting with Windows, not because there's a vast corporate conspiracy against Free Software(tm), but because the display was already set up with all the steps laid out, and the employee wasn't going to spend 3 hours of a workday setting up Free Software(tm) for the sole purpose of demonstrating software that works the same with any 2nd OS.
The employees didn't like you, not because they're part of a vast corporate conspiracy against Free Software(tm), but because you went to an Apple store for the sole purpose of harassing employees about information you could have obtained much more easily with Google, JUST so you could give an absolutely retarded canned lecture about Free Software(tm) to an employee who didn't give a shit at all.
They kicked you out because you were acting like an obnoxious prick, not because you were asking too much about free software and/or you were embarrassing them with your superior knowledge of software and/or they were ignorant or forbidden to tell what they knew. In the future, just shut the fuck up, 'kay?
So the stories are true... gnutoo and twitter are clearly the same person here.
The ILine :)
Cant wait until they perfect cloning.
Mod parent down - he's a known dis-info agent for Apple.
Isn't twitter and gnutoo the same user? I don't know if I would put much faith into the words of a known troll.
Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue.
I've been calling Apple fans lemmings for years. Finally I have clear and irrefutable evidence of herd behavour!
(Hint: This is tongue in cheek humour, you want to mod it funny not troll. Either that or there's nothing to see here, move along. The secret history of star wars says so, so it must be true).
These posts express my own personal views, not those of my employer
"Hi, I'm Twitter! I refer to my^H^Hhimself in the third person! I bother a busy store about products they don't support! I have a journal!"
Are they moaning as well?
Nothing that the British like more than moaning and queuing.
"Trademarks are the heraldry of the new feudalism."
Where I come from "60-deep" is used to suggest a wide frontage crowd x 60 rows back. Say 50 x 60? So I'd expect from your headline to see a crowd of a few thousand at least. View from the front of a rock stadium gig, that sort of thing. What the photos look like are a line of some people one behind the other. Perhaps 60 in total.
Maybe the headline is you're looking for is "a group of 60 people".
Wow, 60 people go to a store in New York. Makes headline. Big village you've got there....
"though most people seem confused about what they're waiting for"
Reminds me of the old saying. "If all your friends are jumping off a bridge..." I guess if you do decide to jump, you could hope to land on people like this!
"Line forms spontaneously at NYC Apple Store" It sounds like a headline on The Onion! I guess we've been at the point where The Onion sounds like real life for some time now.
This looks like a marketing stunt. Note that posts, barriers, and security people for line control were all on hand for this "unexpected" event.
Apple probably isn't even paying them. All they'd have to do is send anonymous text messages for a few of their fanboys, er, customers.
You should always listen to AC posts. They will protect you from teh evil trolls.
please move along.
I was referring mostly to your "they deserve the marketshare" statement...
The fact that they line up for nothing, making them little more than a flash mob...
OR
That this story gets media attention at all and has anti-macheads all in a sweat shouting "sheeple!" and trying to put various political/religious/fanboi spins on the story?
-- Boycott Shell
...line forms at supermarket checkout. More at 11.
There's a line at a store!! Call CNN rightaway!!1!1one!
Personally I find that "article" of his to be a good example of why so many people are turned off by "advocates" like twitter. He clearly had no intention whatsoever to buy a Mac, but it probably made him feel good to play the victim when the hapless Apple employees wouldn't give him "GNU/Linux" quickly enough on boxes that are supposed to work (and be supported) as a full hardware/software solution. Instead of just using Google to see if someone else had gotten Debian Woody to run on a Powerbook, he has to walk in there, make life difficult for total strangers in the name of fighting "injustice" and then stomp out and write up a long whine with cheese about the whole traumatic experience.
That's just dreadful.
On the other hand, I think he's pretty much stopped pretending now. I'm not sure if that's good or bad.
(I'll take my offtopic moderation now)
The twitter monologues. Click on my homepage and be amazed.
. . . we'll know for sure, when they all remove their pants . . . and then start screaming for "iPants" . . . http://improveverywhere.com/2008/01/16/no-pants-2k8/
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
Meanwhile, at the Sony Style store, 5 blocks away, the glow of HDTVs illuminated the vapid faces of salespeople in tshirts as they stared across the racks over empty aisles. Aisles of laptops, PS3s, CDs and other items went unpurchased, and no one was there to see it.
Brand name computer stores are the outlet for those too weak to resist the urge to make impulse purchases in excess of a month's income. The fact Apple has been able to capitalize on this trend so well speaks to the fetishistic appeal of those shiny laptops and the absence of any real value in their products. Convinced the worth of something that is not even there, people are literally waiting in line to buy nothing.
Truly, they are the dead.
M
Maybe it's just one of these
Twitter is a tool.
I'm going to Church because the end is near and Hell hath frozenth overth.
Well, anything could happen.
Yes, it must be tough to deal with such huge crowds.
60 people? NYC's entire Mac-using population has shown up!It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
This stunt sounds alot like what Improv Anywhere would do.
But your mention of "a friend of mine got an invite for it" sounds strange. Normally when Improv Anywhere stages an event, the invitation makes no mention of what the event actually is. It just says something vague like "bring a green shirt and be prepared to walk alot" or whatever. Only once everyone is gathered do they explain the stunt. (This is intentionally done to prevent information leaks and to keep everyone genuinely surprised.) If you want proof, watch some of their videos: the first step is always a briefing session for the volunteers.
I suppose your friend could have phoned/emailed you after receiving the instructions...
Improv Anywhere is officially denying involvement (not sure if you can take them at their word, however!). All this to say that without more proof, I don't think it's warranted to conclude this is Improv Anywhere's doing. (Yet.)
Talk about shoddy journalism by engadget. Where the hell does the line start? Are they just standing outside the store? Is it moving? Is there a theater premiering Indy 4 nearby?
I've never seen people waiting outside of a cube to be assimilated!
Anywhere or Everywhere?
I've never noticed twitter's trolling, assuming it exists. I have noticed the constant barrage of "you're a twitter sockpuppet", which is the only way I ever really notice the posts in question. So if twitter is trolling, they're not so trollish that they stand out above the background noise (I read at -1, so there's a fair bit of background noise). So, can you please shut the fuck up and stop polluting Slashdot with your whining? If I was a troll I'd have great admiration for twitter - they have succeeded where most fail in that every one of their posts gets numerous "stop trolling", "you're a twitter sockpuppet" replies. It's you and your ilk who need to stop feeding the trolls.
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A giant fanboy orgy is going to take place inside the cube. Steve Jobs will allow them all the blow him 10 seconds each.
Jokes aside, an Engadget story on slasdot, about Apple, on a queue. I know Apple is worshiped here, but can it go lower than this?
It's been found out that the line was just a bunch of people wanting to purchase from the incoming shipment of current-generation iPhones...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=483570bb44e45a71&ei=Suo1SMbdJY3q_AG6kIGnCw&url=http%3A//dvice.com/archives/2008/05/mystery_lineup.php&cid=0&usg=AFrqEzdpLsANqWrm6zwUT10e-6PmeMbnHg
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
Brand name computer stores are the outlet for those too weak to resist the urge to make impulse purchases in excess of a month's income. The fact Apple has been able to capitalize on this trend so well speaks to the fetishistic appeal of those shiny laptops and the absence of any real value in their products. Convinced the worth of something that is not even there, people are literally waiting in line to buy nothing.
Truly, they are the dead.
M Seriously?
First of all, I don't see how the Sony Style comment has anything to do with the rest of your comment, as it is showing a LACK of buyers, rather than supporting your conclusion.
Secondly,
I get the feeling you're parodying some well-known work, but.. I don't know what.
Oops, sorry, I didn't notice that the OP was gnutoo (twitter) referring to twitter. Mod me stupid for not reading who's posting what... (I only ever look at sigs)
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
ehh. that's sorta sad that they acted that way. They are, after all, only Mac Geniuses. Who touches the darwin terminal anyway? heh. (btw I use the terminal all the time on Mac OS X, and Macports/Fink are important to me.) And I just want to say that there are some Twitter puppet fans out there, including me. heheh you provide the best /. entertainment.
I saw this at the Soho, NYC apple store earlier today. People just getting in line for... what?
Is Apple really going to release a 3G iPhone with no advertising? *rolling eyes*
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
lulz.
"In case of emergency, break glass. Scream. Bleed to death."
It is a historical fact that Mohammad dictated the Koran while in what modern people would call a seizer.
When he came out of his seizer he would look at what had been dictated and declare which verses were from Allah and which were from Satan (the Satanic verses).
You have got to be real credulous to place any value at all in that book. (Beyond its use as Toilet Paper!)
In any case saying it was written by Satan is no more trollish then saying it was written by God. It might be your belief but it is sure to offend someone.
In any case the God I worship doesn't select baby rapers as Prophets.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
I'm reminded of the bank run depicted in the Jungle, only with less panic.
Of course, that scene depicted people with absolutely no disposable income desperate to get their money back in their own hands, whereas--minus the hysteria--this scene depicts people desperate to put their money into someone else's hands. How far we've come.
This sounds to me like the sort of stunt Improv Everwhere might pull.
There's supposed to be a cage fight between Balmer and Jobs with chairs. The odds are running 2 to 1 on Balmer since Jobs is a bit geeky and Balmer has actual chair throwing experience. No one is counting out Jobs, anyone that can nearly quadruple their stock price in a bad market is some one to watch. Also the rumor is Jobs bites.
To be honest, I find the thought of Twitter getting "dressed down" by a mac sales droid and his/her supervisor pretty darned funny. =]
Everything I need to know I learned by killing smart people and eating their brains.
Did you really say the devil wrote the Koran
No. Exercise some reading comprehension, or at least bother to read the whole thread instead of looking at just one post out of context to attack someone who says something you don't like.
It's clear that from context, NeutronCowboy was referring to the practice of quoting various bits of the Koran with a violent message to prove that Islam is dangerous, implying that quite a few people think it's perfectly reasonable to do so, and contrasting that with the user who was calling quoting similarly violent bits of the Bible the work of the Devil.
I mean; when people to queue up to buy something when they're not even sure what it IS that's a whole new level of success.
"Physics is to math as sex is to masturbation." -R. Feynman
My experience discussing free software at an Apple store in Las Vegas (where I live) was exactly the opposite of his. The genius I talked to knew exactly what I was talking about and was happy to demonstrate the similarities between gnu/linux and OS X, allowing me to open up the terminal and even experiment for myself (I only ran a few cd's and ls's for the fun of it). My only problem was that the genius (sort-of) tried to convince me that OS X is open source (or at least very open).
Its = possessive. It's = "it is"
Am i the only one who read it as 'Life Forms at Apple's Always-Open Manhattan Cube' ?
Tin Foil Hats which will clearly help these Apple people.
Moved to http://soylentnews.org/. You are invited to join us too!
Maybe Apple's marketing team have beamed Apple ads directly into the minds of these people. And so those already Apple happy fell victim to the ploy.
"Thanks for all the money you paid to us. We've used it to buy off ISO among other things" -Microsoft
I think if there was an announcement of any serious new product it will at the Apple WWDC in June 9-13, 2008 which will be in little over two weeks.
Waiting in a long line for a 1st generation iPhone? No, I'll wait for the next generation (or ever later) that hopefully fixes issues with the 1st generation.
Maybe they got the "code blue" like the Coors commerical.
http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1519704939&channel=1432843613
I love the guy getting the haircut...
iRack and iRan of course.
"The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth." ~1984 George Orwell
The line is formed from people excited about Apple's next Apple/ATnT/CIA project. Once inside the store the sheeple will get a free month of CIA monitored web browsing for agreeing to register for certain privacy-intrusive biometric identifications, i.e. retina scans, palm prints, and butt prints.
Meanwhile, six feet underground, Orwell, Burroughs, Robert Anton Wilson and Thomas Jefferson roll over once again.
I was confused too, I wasn't sure if gnutoo was a puppet. The journal he posts to is interesting enough - it seems twitter can't help but upset people wherever he goes, even if he realises what is happening and tries to 'fix' it, he ends up making things worse. I wonder how it got to the stage where he needs to have conversations with himself o_0
which is totally what she said
Heh heh, I wish I'd thought of saying that a long time ago when they (he) first started the twitter hysteria.
As far as the retail experience goes, coming from the gritty do-it-yourself-BestBuy-or-bust PC white/beige box world where I see computers as tools rather than post-modernist plastic sculptures to gawk at, I have to say I was rather pleasantly surprised. I half expected these guys (Geniuses?) to be no better than the ignorant, pushy pimply teenagers at BestBuy or the Gateway Country Stores (R.I.P.), but that was certainly not the case. I mean I didn't walk out of there with a hard on or anything like that, but Apple certainly has the "don't worry about anything, just give us your money and you'll be OK" approach completely figured out.
The thing that got my attention was the number of kids playing with the Macs on display, and the number of older people browsing around. I'm not sure what gives, but it's like the store atmosphere sort of encourages people to sit down, try things out and ask lots of questions. Inevitably I suppose this takes care of the other thing, which is to sell the boxes.
I can't say that I'm anything other than a die-hard Windows (with sprinklings of BSD and Linux) user, and I really wouldn't want or know what to do with a Mac. But at the expense of sounding a little fanboyish, the Apple store is very cool.
I think anyone with just a few working brain cells can figure out the real reasons for your lame little account of the terrible things suffered at the hands of these evil people. If I happened to be in the shoes of that ogre of a manager that "screamed" at you, I would have taken your picture and put up a website with an account of what really happened (one can only imagine your demeanor and shudder), along with a recommendation of how not to "evangelize" free software.
As always, you end up doing more harm than good - sockpuppets or not.
Web2.0: I love when people Flickr my cuil and digg my boingboing until my google is reddit and I start to yahoo
This reminds me of a time when some friends and I were in line for a buffer at the Excalibur in Las Vegas, or so we thought. After not moving anywhere for about 5 minutes we noticed most the people in line ahead of us were 18+ year old women. I suddenly became suspicious of this line I was in. I asked the lady in front of me, "Is this the line for the buffet?" To which she rolled her eyes and replied, "Pssh, no!". So we moved closer to the front of the line which later veered off to a theater with a sign advertising the "Thunder from down under" with pictures of scantily clad men. Applying what I learned from my experience, I'm fairly confident that the apple line is really just a hidden line for a Chippendale show.
http://dvice.com/archives/2008/05/mystery_lineup.php
"By the time we got there, the lineup was gone, but a couple of helpful Apple blueshirts told us what was what: It turns out that the lineup wasn't for the widely -- and wildly -- rumored 3G iPhone. The store got a shipment of current iPhones this morning, apparently a rare occurrence these days, and when word got out, some touchscreen-hungry folks got in line to snatch up the few that came in."
>I wonder if the crowd already has its own Flickr group set up -- if not, what are they waiting for on that front?
Well, there's this one
Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
Let's see.
The French invented the modern tank in WWI, based on an original idea by the British.
Apple invented the modern WIMP UI in 1981/82, based on an original design by Xerox.
The French didn't really improve their tank after WWI, and were totally taken by surprise by German tank warfare.
Apple didn't really improve their OS after the '80s, and were totally taken by surprise by Microsoft Windows 95.
Yeh, sounds right.
Never been in a Mac store... is their version of "Geek Squad" really called "Geniuses", or is that a slang term for them?
It's sad either way, in different ways.
Heh. I have to say in fairness that full credit for spotting most of twitter's sockpuppets goes to Macthorpe. I just took the opening twitter gave me :)
I can't believe he would actually post a link to that, never mind doing it with one of his other accounts (in the third person, no less). I would have deleted it in embarrassment a long time ago. Well, I wouldn't have written it to begin with.
The usual YOU CANNOT TALK ABOUT TWITTER EVEN IF HE'S REPLYING TO HIMSELF WITH FIVE ACCOUNTS ON THIS THREAD moderation aside, I'd have to say you're on topic. After all, he's the one that posted the link to his lame journal entry, and that's what you commented on. And this whole thing is about Apple.
There's a duck outside the window, BTW <-- I MENTIONED FOWL SO MOD ME OFFTOPIC NOW OR SLASHDOT WILL BE RUINED
Web2.0: I love when people Flickr my cuil and digg my boingboing until my google is reddit and I start to yahoo
could I get 60 people for next tuesday...
Science advances one funeral at a time- Max Planck
It wouldn't surprise me if the people in line are Apple employee's creating the line just to get the attention they are getting. Most likely for the new iPhone.
The sad fact is, Twitter will probably just use your post to reinforce his own delusions about zealous Mac users, or something like that.
anyone would scream at twitter. he comes off as a douche bag, even in his own story, and I don't believe for a second that he was as polite as he portrays himself to be
Nope, it was 13 years. People did stand in line to get windows 95.
GET
A
LIFE!
I mean, really. I've never understood this obsession with Apple. Yes, I own an iPod. I also own a PowerBook, and I recently purchased a MacPro tower. But I don't live and breath Apple. I use the tools because they're good tools.
Apple sells products - they do not sell a way of life, even though they would like you to believe that.
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/05/22/apple_seeks_expert_in_wimax_impromptu_5th_ave_lineup_more.html The answer to something seeming perplexing is usually something simple, if the observer has any common sense at all.
Did I miss something where Twitter is the new Signal 11? Seriously, I've never heard of this guy and all I see are people ranting about him, but I don't think I've ever actually seen any of his posts (I browse at ~+3, with +5 to friends+friends of friends, and twitter is neither) Or maybe I'm just too much of an oldfag here.
No, he's not. But you meant Markov Engine, right?
That's a really cool project, BTW. Unfortunately it has a EULA the size of Texas that scared the bleep out of me when I first saw it.
Oh um, Apple stores are shiny. <-- THIS GETS ME ON TOPIC KTHXBAI
Web2.0: I love when people Flickr my cuil and digg my boingboing until my google is reddit and I start to yahoo
Fear the power of Twitter users. I saw a rather scary keynote at Microsoft's REMIX conf. this week - with a Twitter using describing the ability of Twitterer's to pool their collective twitterings to bring bad PR for companies/people they don't like. The speaker called it "Instant Karma". Like forums, but faster.
Anon, sweet Anon, I wish I could mod you up to 6.
Ha, that's the funniest write up I've read. It seemed like a euphemistic way of describing how some guy walked into an apple store, stood on the Pulpit of GNU, and wondered why he irritated the hell out of people.
Geniuses are just college kids, nothing special there (specially in Louisiana). Sounds to me like they said their not trained to demo Linux and so couldn't do so. Makes sense, Boot Camp is just a boot loader. Anyone using linux can likely figure it out without issues. If they can't, the first hit on google tells you how.
Wonder if I ever ran into that pompous ass when I lived in LA.
His signature says it all: "Liberated in 1999." pffft
What I find hilarious is how, when the iPhone was released, people purchased as many as they could, waited in line for days, etc... all anticipating a shortage. Which never arrived.
I'm guessing that the same thing will happen again. When Apple is making between $200 to $400 in profit JUST from the hardware... I'm guessing El Jobso doesn't want to lose a single sale. The Apple monopoly relies on Mac Fanatics spending as much money as possible every time Apple poops out something with a logo on it. They aren't going to give people a chance to consider whether they REALLY want to buy or not- it's all impulse purchase all the time.
Why things like these get modded up I have no idea. Slashdot is quickly losing all the respect it has when posts like these are allowed to float up to the default article view.
Yes, they're really called Geniuses.
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They're actually officially called geniuses. I agree, sounds rather sad to me. Then again geek squad sounds just as bad.
The support area is called Genius Bar and at least in London you usually have to make an appointment unless you really like waiting. I've never seen if they live up to their name.
In case you're wondering that was a joke. :)
Easy solution for /. - every time someone wants to use a computer they have to identify themselves with eye and fingerprint recognition. Then have a bunch of people go around banning other people based on this information.
Of course, I could also be one of twitter's sock puppets and so could any other replies here.
Please don't take any reply to this general thread seriously. Move on to discussing the real story here... actually, what's that again?
let me guess. you are yet another twitter sockpuppet! (just kidding, I dont even know who twitter is)
Seriously, I feel like I'm missing something. All these posts saying that $POSTER is really Twitter: how do people know (or think they know) that it is so?
Hail Eris, full of mischief...
E pluribus sanguinem
they would still form a 60 man deep line queuing outside the Apple box ...
Read radical news here
Turns out the line was actually for the store bathroom, after the New York Times deemed it the "cleanest in Manhattan". Unfortunately it did not live up to this moniker for long.
wow, a troll here, AND in real life. Go twitter.
Cool, now Apple fanatics have officially reached the lows of Trekkies and Star Wars geeks. All we need now is for Steve Jobs to walk out of the store and give them the "William Shatner/SNL GET-A-LIFE" speech and then the universe will implode. Has Apple Chic now become Apple Geek?
From the article "P.S. That's a live photo. One more after the break."
Can someone please explain to me what a live photo is, and how it differs from a dead photo?
Hey, I used to live in New York and would regularly walk past the trash heaps outside the brownstones - there was usually a PC and an iMac box in the same pile.
Whatever happened to the old Apple fanboys who were just plain weird? Nowadays, their hubris is starting to go to their head.
Makes me want to cover the Apple logo on my computer and keep VMWare in the front.
I might know what I'm talkin' about, but then again, this is Slashdot...
I'm pretty much getting used to the moderation now. I've stopped posting when he's replying to himself, but I can't help replying to someone who asks if an account is one of his sockpuppets.
The twitter monologues. Click on my homepage and be amazed.
Yeah, no kidding. Last I heard, Twitter was essentially a miniature blogging service where people post short little descriptions of what they're doing all day from their cell phone, which gets spammed out to everyone who has subscribed to their mini-blog thingie, so they can all keep track of the tedious minutiae of each other's lives.
Is Twitter also the name of a Slashdot troll now? I've only seen the whining about it, never the actual posts being whined about.
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The parent AC has nothing better to do? Between 5:00 and 6:15 pm EDT, Twitter wrote 11 posts through 4 sockpuppet accounts. He was jumping back and forth between 3 sockpuppets for most of the 5:00 hour.
I guess that makes him a loving husband and father, since he kept it under two hours.
(And before you snark about my time: That took me all of five minutes to figure out.)
crash and burn willy. crash and burn.
Actually, I don't believe that any Apple retail employee even raised his voice at the clown. I've seen a couple of unbelievable flaming assholes trying to pick fights with employees at Apple stores, and even the guy who went as far as poking his finger into the shoulder of the Apple sales guy was only asked to leave the store.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Whispers are circulating concerning a new Apple offering, to be known as the "iNull". Apple's latest tech blockbuster is said to involve no hardware or software, will not be offered as an online service, will not be encumbered by DRM, and in fact will have no actual existence at all, either physical or virtual.
"Apple will change the way we look at nothingness as a society," said one industry insider. "This is game-changing. Everything you think you know about nothing is going to be swept away."
Mac enthusiasts are eager to be among the first to have an iNull, despite the inherent philosophical difficulties in "having" one. "I can't wait!" blurted one blogger, "Apple has once again shown how they 'think different'. In a world of gadgets, doodads and useless techno-gimmickry, they've brought forth something of unrivaled simplicity and elegance. Way to go!"
From a business perspective, the profit potential is limitless -- the iNull will have the lowest production cost of any Apple product to date, requiring no manufacturing, shipping, or inventory, although there will be a "significant" marketing campaign. Of the $499 price tag, Apple is expected to reap the lion's share as pure profit, with an unspecified percentage paid out as a licensing fee to the Sartre estate.
Soylent Green is peoplicious!
I think this kind of smells of improv everywhere. Getting a group of people to do something strange, baffling strangers just by their sheer numbers. Google them, they've set up quite a few nice 'missions' so far.
i honestly thought this /. story was a joke.
I'm glad some slashdotter has been waiting in in front of the apple store just in case something happens... inevitably attracting passersby who stop to witness the happening you're apparently waiting for.
Your argument may seem convenient and pat, but
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There's something cool called the "time value of money". There's also a unique property to the PC industry, which is a trend toward exponential improvement.
If you save $1000 today, it's actually worth a lot more compounded over 5 years from now. Not to mention the value in more frequent hardware replacements in an industry where exponential improvement is the norm.
Given accepted rates of return on things like index funds (10%), you could spend $1000 every 2 years, instead of $2000 every 5 years... You would have two brand new machines during that time on the same budget and have a bunch left over at the end. The only thing you miss out on is the first two years of having a 50% superior machine, if we arbitrarily call your $2000 Mac (we'll go wild) "50% better" than the $1000 PC when it was brand new.
The neat thing is that if you spend $1000 every two years rather than $2100 every five years, those last three years, you would have a far superior machine.... so... for more than half of the 5 year life cycle, you would have vastly superior machine... of course it does involve delayed gratification.
OK, lets do the numbers. I can hear your ears turning red.... or perhaps your eyes are glazing over. I don't care. Keep reading.
Even assuming Macbooks hold their value better (lets use some numbers and assume the PC depreciates at exactly 40% per year and the mac at exactly 30% per year), your 2nd $1000 PC purchase would cost you $640 after the trade in of your 2 year old PC (which was then worth $360). Your initial $1000 savings is now also worth $1331, which you can spend on that PC. So you have a brand new computer in the second year and $691 in the bank. Two years later, you replace it again, getting a trade in and paying $640 for a machine 8 times (exponential for 4 years) faster than your original box. Again, your initial savings on the purchase means that you don't have to put down any money. Your $691 could now be valued at $836, so even after you THIRD purchase (8 times faster than the original), you still have $196 in the bank. Upon reaching the 5th year, you evaluate your position.
Your $2000 Macbook is worth about $340 since it's 5 years old (30% per year).
Your $1000 PC is actually your third one you got with the same money. It's currently worth $600 (40% per year). You also have $215 in the bank from the leftovers after the trade-ins and compounded interest.
Lets say your $2000 Mac was.. we'll go wild and say it's 50% "better" than the $1000 PC when it was brand new. Today, you have a 1 year old PC that's valued at about $600 and is generally about 6 times faster (presumably "better" in most ways) than your 5 year old Mac. You didn't spend any additional money during the entire process but you got a new PC every 2 years.
Now, this argument is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT for someone who considers "money is no object", since they will simply buy the best AND replace it yearly. But for someone on an obviously restricted budget, it's simply silly to argue that you're saving money. In fact, it's a lie.
If you want to argue that the PC is so infuriatingly poor that you simply can't use it during those first two years.... there is nothing I can say and you are entitled to that opinion.
But you wanted to make some sort of kooky economic argument.....
epic fail.
Of course, this all falls apart if you're the type who will spend your spare cash on lotto tickets rather than putting it in an interest bearing account as I've assumed above....
Which is also entirely possible.
Hey, anything is possible!
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That's a pretty funny comment for a linux-centric site. Linux desktop market share-- well under
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I'm actually beginning to wonder if twitter could be actually feeding himself so to speak by posting the "you're a twitter sockpuppet" replies with his spare accounts. Or perhaps they are all just a part of the singularity and mankind is doomed.
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Quoting from a recent slashdot-referenced article: "Government is an industry with a really high barrier to entry," he said. "You basically need to win an election or a revolution to try a new one. That's a ridiculous barrier to entry. And it's got enormous customer lock-in."
So Microsoft is like Eastern Europe if the Soviets had won the cold war?
Yes, it must be tough to deal with such huge crowds.
60 people? NYC's entire Mac-using population has shown up! Gawker must have been shut down for the dayAh, I wouldn't know. There's a certain advantage to talking to yourself. For a start, you have more common topics than with anyone else, although that's somewhat offset by the fact that you're not going to hear anything you didn't know already. It also takes all the fun out of telling jokes, lemme tell you.
You're also almost guaranteed to have the same moods at the same time. When you're in a mood to go see a movie, for example, so are you. I mean it's not like you're in a mood to watch the game, while you would rather talk about moving the furniture instead. No need to nod absentmindedly and go "uh-huh". Which is just as well, because you'd know it anyway. And when you're depressed, you can always cry on your own shoulder. (Come to think of it, more of the people on the Internet should be encouraged to use their own shoulder for that;)
And if you want to call yourself to dinner, but you're still at the last boss in a MMO raid... well, chances are you'll find a way to accomodate and understand yourself.
You can also save yourself not just the phone bill, but also the internet bill. You can just use Notepad as IRC, IM and pretty much any other text chat medium rolled in one. And you know you can accept any files or attachments. Heck, even if you sent yourself a virus, you had it already anyway.
Buying gifts for yourself is fun too. It takes all the guesswork out, and it's not like you'll buy yourself a tie you'll secretly hate but pretend to like so you don't offend yourself. Downside, it ruins the whole surprise big time. Plus side again, it'll probably be something both you and you can use, and you won't get into ownership disputes about it.
Romance tends to not work too well, though.
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This is rubbish. There wasn't a line at all when I purchased my stuff yesterday night at 11pm in this store.
Stand 60 people in-line before an Apple Store and wait how many +5 hate-posts you get on Slashdot.
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No, you are submissive, dogmatic, and base much of your identity on a brand for consumer products. You are the shame of Mac users.
Has anyone else noticed the similarity between Apple fanboys and Republican freepers?
Think about it:
Criticism of the (product or company | party or policy) is seen as personal attack.
Criticism of the fearless leader is seen as a personal attack.
Both groups consider themselves tiny voices of truth being attacked by a horde who constantly censors them.
Both groups employ talking points which are repeated ad nauseam with little variation.
Of course, the result of this mentally is that people enjoy baiting them.
Yuppies line up for itoys
Haitians line up for bread
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"though most people seem confused about what they're waiting for"
Mindless Apple drones. Jobs has you all brainwashed.
If only Wozniak was still at the company. "
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Ever notice how Microsoft fans do not feel the need to bash on Apple every chance they get. Think about it.
(although this time I did)
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Ever notice how Microsoft fans are too chicken (with rare exception to parent) to bash Apple fans directly and instead take the 'Microsoft/fans don't (insert claimed Apple fan behavior)' route. Think about it.
You may be right since you said "NYC", which refers to the city proper, rather than "New York", which refers to all five boroughs collectively.
In my experience there may only be 60 Mac users in New York as the rest seem to have moved to Williamsburg, Brooklyn...
I own an iBook G4, which I bought new in 2003. I also have an HP Compaq nc6220 laptop that was issued to me by my employer in 2006.
The iBook has travelled with me to Alaska, Palau, and on numerous shorter trips around the U.S. It's had a glass of white wine spilled on the keyboard. Its battery is almost totally dead, but other than that it still works great for Web, office, and web design work. The $1200 or so I spent on it is still providing value.
The HP has travelled with me pretty much between home and office, and a few short trips. Today the case is obviously more flexible than it was new, and when it flexes I get the infamous BSOD. As a result I can only use it on a flat table top. On top of that it has developed a nagging driver problem that makes sleep and lower-power modes problematic. It cost my employer around $2000 and is in the process of being replaced now.
When my iBook goes I will almost certainly get another Apple.
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Yes, it must be tough to deal with such huge crowds.
60 people? NYC's entire Mac-using population has shown up! You seem to have forgotten about the existence of Greenwich Village.iDoToo
I probably would have modded you up Insightful if I had points.
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They have no idea what they're doing but figure they have to do it simply because it's Apple.
I hope it turns out to be nothing and they all get charged for loitering.
Well aside from performance art or a great trick one reasonable explanation is that they have some kind of inside tip that they can't reveal, i.e., signed NDAs, or were just told by people that 'something' would come out.
I think the easy way to check if this is just random fucking around or knowledge of a new product launch (which one would think would happen at more than one store) is to check out how much money the people in line have. If they are dirt poor college students they may not being buying much.
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"...though most people seem confused about what they're waiting for..."
So idiots line up at an Apple store, what else is new? How is this News?
You'll have that sometimes...
"Line forms spontaneously at NYC Apple Store" It sounds like a headline on The Onion!
Or simply another Improv Everywhere stunt like the 80 blue shirts that showed up at a local Best Buy.
http://improveverywhere.com/2006/04/23/best-buy/
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfisher/2006/05/best_prank_of_the_year_so_far.html
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Actually, I agree with a lot of others - there are two possibilities that immediately pop into mind:
1) It's just the Cult of Steventology (again)
2) It's Improv Everywhere or some other form of street theater.
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Um, what's that about the "Win" part?
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Damn, didn't look at who the parent poster was until after the submit. Friggin' Twitter roped me in.
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The thing you have forgotten is that a lot, not all, of New Yorkers suffer from NYC Syndrome.... it is an incurable disease which makes the patient believe that NYC == Manhattan == The Universe. Nothing exists outside it with the possible exception of LA. And that is doubted in the worse cases. All TV, and most movie, execs suffer from this terrible disease. This is why all TV shows/movies are set in either NYC or LA. Even when the story doesn't actually require it.
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Glad to see it wasn't wasted effort :)
I've pretty much given up on the whole fiasco, myself - I don't think it should be allowed, but it's clear that Slashdot either doesn't care or doesn't think it's a problem. Everyone seems to know now, anyway - what they do with that information is up to their collective consciences.
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You'll have that sometimes...
Apparently not. Well, obviously not if the moderation of the past few days on those insane "look at me, I reply to myself" threads is any indication.
Actually it's interesting that he's pretty much dropped the "M$" thing lately and seems obsessed with the injustices perpetrated on humanity by the RIAA. Not to say that he doesn't have a point sometimes, other than the fact he's just pretending to agree with himself and that gets him moderated positively even more.
I think he's just racking up the karma so he can go back to the usual crap later. But this time he'll do it with three or four accounts posting at +2, instead of -1.
Should be amusing if nothing else. The guy is a real tool.
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Yeah, that's probably true. The point is still the same though. :)
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