Groove 2007 is your upgrade path... sorta
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We are in a very similar sticky situation as the original poster. We have a LOT of Groove 3.1 licenses and we want to buy more, but can't.
Your upgrade path is Groove 2007-- as a previous poster noted, there is a stand-alone version.
A couple of HUGE BIG ENORMOUS caveats:
1. If you migrate your existing Groove account over to Groove 2007, it will completely disable your Groove 3.x account. You _CAN_ get it back by re-activating (like you did when you FIRST got Groove), but then that deactivates your Groove 2007!
There is ABSOLUTELY no way to have a single Groove account coexist in 3.x and 2007.
2. I am absolutely unsure about the way that Groove 2007 is licensed w.r.t. the way it was in Groove 3.x days. In 3.x, your license was for YOU-- you could install it on multiple machines, provided that they were all logged in as you. So, for example, my coworker would have Groove installed on his home machine and his work machine, and they were set up to share folders, etc. That was part of the point.
In Groove 2007, I believe that you have to buy a copy for each computer, and at $250 a pop, that's not cheap!
3. Groove 2007 DOES appear to be able to participate in Groove 3.x, unlike some other reports I've read. (it worked for me).
However, Groove 2007 is unable to CREATE a 3.x workspace, so your new Groove 2007 users will not be able to make workspaces that your Groove 3.x users can access. They would have to ask a 3.x user to create a workspace for them.
4. (this is the deal killer for us) Groove 2007 is completely unable to use TeamDirection Project-- the tool that was bundled with Groove 3.0 Professional.
This is a travesty. We have a LOT invested in TD Project. I'm sure a lot of people do. Microsoft can say all they want about how the upgrade path for that is Microsoft Project Server, but that's complete shit.
Oh, and btw-- yes, there is TeamDirection Project 2007 for Groove. HOWEVER, it is NOT implemented as a workspace tool-- it is a SEPARATE tool that cannot integrate in any way with Groove 3.x.
5. Lastly, note that the links are gone to install TD Project if you don't already have it. There's a way to do it, but it's a big pain in the ass. More shit.
I guess that's enough bitching for now.
I'm not sure what to tell you. We've essentially given up on the idea of Groove 2007. We will not be upgrading to it. We got a crazy "last time buy" of Groove, so we have a few more left, but we are looking for an alternative, too.
We MIGHT end up going with some sort of Sharepoint-based system, but I dunno.
I'm VERY interested to see other people's solutions.
For about a half hour after a big GoldenEye session, I found myself looking everywhere for security cameras.
('cause things in GoldenEye always went way better if you shot out the security cameras before entering an area...)
I mean, come on. There was almost no useful information in that guide whatsoever
I am incredibly surprised that they didn't even remotely talk about things that people are actually confused about-- like whether or not you can replace the ink TANKS without replacing the ink cartidge. Or how long a ink cartidge lasts when NOT printing.
My problem was always that I would not print for 3-4 weeks, then go to print and find out that the head had dried out.
Finally went to laser and haven't been happier.
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Well, no, that's a bit insane.
But...
If you track how storage $100 buys, it has DOUBLED every 12 months (as opposed to the 18 months of Moore's law) for the past 10+ years.
I'm not saying that it will continue, but...
So, $100 for desktop currently buys, what, 160 GB? So this time next year, it'll buy 320 GB? That seems reasonable. (the next double is a bit iffy, but I think that we will see 640 GB drives in 2007 for reasonable prices.)
and $100 for laptop currently buys about 60 GB. So in 2007, it'll be 240 GB. Again reasonable.
But yeah, the original poster is off by several orders of magnitude!
Lessee, it's a Sony digital music format, so it'll be all fucked up.
1. Memory Stick? Give me a break.
2. I'm sure that I can't just put a FAT formatted flash card in it. I'm sure that I have to use some sort of fucking evil-ass Sony piece of crap, PC-only software for the sole purpose of COPYING FILES TO A FLASH CARD.
I'm surprised that no one has commented on the upcoming movie "Polar Express". I saw a trailer for this during Harry Potter. (you can see it too, from Apple's Quicktime site).
It is a fully computer rendered movie, and lots and lots of it looks __GREAT__. Just amazingly detailed, wonderfully warm backgrounds, objects, etc.
But then we get to the people. Very very realistic looking, in still shots. But when you watch the video, they look... well... CREEPY! Amazingly creepy. I couldn't figure out what was wrong... was it a slight problem in the lip-syncing? Or was it just some sort of motion problem (I think most of the movie was shot with motion capture). Or what... I couldn't figure it out.
So then to read this article (yes, I RTFA), and realize that it might be an unsolvable problem... that's a strange thought.
I'm very surprised that the review of Outlook's IMAP capabilities as "reasonable".
The fact that "deleting" does not shield the user from the IMAP concept of marking for deletion. I am unable to move many of my users to an IMAP-based mail implementation because Outlook doesn't correctly use the metaphor!
(Thunderbird, on the other hand, sets up a virtual "trash" folder, which is really just posts that have been marked for deletion-- that's the way it should work!)
Not to hammer home a point but...
There's no such thing as a "color CCD". A color CCD is a B&W CCD with filters in front of it.
The main camera on Spirit is a CCD with a color wheel filter, for maximum flexibility.
Virtualisation, like colour, honour, realise, emphasise, organisation, etc, is one of those words that is spelled differently between UK English and US English. Since the New Scientist is a UK publication, I would expect the UK spelling, you insensitive clod.
That's easy-- because they want to continue having their cable modem service.
At least in the town that I live, we have only one choice for cable. One choice for cable internet. I, personally, can't get DSL (too far from the switch or somesuch).
So if I were to piss them off, and they shut off my service, then I have no broadband connection. After a couple of years of broadband, I just can't go back!
I wonder if you'll see more angry customers appear when they have an alternative.
This is exactly what I do-- and to check my mail from outside, I've set up my server (the one with fetchmail) to act as an IMAP server. It's beautiful to only read mail once..:)
What worries me is the "thou shalt not run servers" bit in my usage contract. I figure eventually they will try to screw me out of this, too... for no damn good reason.
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Your upgrade path is Groove 2007-- as a previous poster noted, there is a stand-alone version.
A couple of HUGE BIG ENORMOUS caveats:
1. If you migrate your existing Groove account over to Groove 2007, it will completely disable your Groove 3.x account. You _CAN_ get it back by re-activating (like you did when you FIRST got Groove), but then that deactivates your Groove 2007!
There is ABSOLUTELY no way to have a single Groove account coexist in 3.x and 2007.
2. I am absolutely unsure about the way that Groove 2007 is licensed w.r.t. the way it was in Groove 3.x days. In 3.x, your license was for YOU-- you could install it on multiple machines, provided that they were all logged in as you. So, for example, my coworker would have Groove installed on his home machine and his work machine, and they were set up to share folders, etc. That was part of the point.
In Groove 2007, I believe that you have to buy a copy for each computer, and at $250 a pop, that's not cheap!
3. Groove 2007 DOES appear to be able to participate in Groove 3.x, unlike some other reports I've read. (it worked for me).
However, Groove 2007 is unable to CREATE a 3.x workspace, so your new Groove 2007 users will not be able to make workspaces that your Groove 3.x users can access. They would have to ask a 3.x user to create a workspace for them.
4. (this is the deal killer for us) Groove 2007 is completely unable to use TeamDirection Project-- the tool that was bundled with Groove 3.0 Professional.
This is a travesty. We have a LOT invested in TD Project. I'm sure a lot of people do. Microsoft can say all they want about how the upgrade path for that is Microsoft Project Server, but that's complete shit.
Oh, and btw-- yes, there is TeamDirection Project 2007 for Groove. HOWEVER, it is NOT implemented as a workspace tool-- it is a SEPARATE tool that cannot integrate in any way with Groove 3.x.
5. Lastly, note that the links are gone to install TD Project if you don't already have it. There's a way to do it, but it's a big pain in the ass. More shit.
I guess that's enough bitching for now.
I'm not sure what to tell you. We've essentially given up on the idea of Groove 2007. We will not be upgrading to it. We got a crazy "last time buy" of Groove, so we have a few more left, but we are looking for an alternative, too.
We MIGHT end up going with some sort of Sharepoint-based system, but I dunno.
I'm VERY interested to see other people's solutions.
For about a half hour after a big GoldenEye session, I found myself looking everywhere for security cameras. ('cause things in GoldenEye always went way better if you shot out the security cameras before entering an area...)
I am incredibly surprised that they didn't even remotely talk about things that people are actually confused about-- like whether or not you can replace the ink TANKS without replacing the ink cartidge. Or how long a ink cartidge lasts when NOT printing.
My problem was always that I would not print for 3-4 weeks, then go to print and find out that the head had dried out.
Finally went to laser and haven't been happier.
But...
If you track how storage $100 buys, it has DOUBLED every 12 months (as opposed to the 18 months of Moore's law) for the past 10+ years.
I'm not saying that it will continue, but...
So, $100 for desktop currently buys, what, 160 GB? So this time next year, it'll buy 320 GB? That seems reasonable. (the next double is a bit iffy, but I think that we will see 640 GB drives in 2007 for reasonable prices.)
and $100 for laptop currently buys about 60 GB. So in 2007, it'll be 240 GB. Again reasonable.
But yeah, the original poster is off by several orders of magnitude!
Lessee, it's a Sony digital music format, so it'll be all fucked up. 1. Memory Stick? Give me a break. 2. I'm sure that I can't just put a FAT formatted flash card in it. I'm sure that I have to use some sort of fucking evil-ass Sony piece of crap, PC-only software for the sole purpose of COPYING FILES TO A FLASH CARD.
It is a fully computer rendered movie, and lots and lots of it looks __GREAT__. Just amazingly detailed, wonderfully warm backgrounds, objects, etc.
But then we get to the people. Very very realistic looking, in still shots. But when you watch the video, they look... well... CREEPY! Amazingly creepy. I couldn't figure out what was wrong... was it a slight problem in the lip-syncing? Or was it just some sort of motion problem (I think most of the movie was shot with motion capture). Or what... I couldn't figure it out.
So then to read this article (yes, I RTFA), and realize that it might be an unsolvable problem... that's a strange thought.
I mean, I just saw news about FFXII.
Next up, night vision goggles help see people eating outside food?
The fact that "deleting" does not shield the user from the IMAP concept of marking for deletion. I am unable to move many of my users to an IMAP-based mail implementation because Outlook doesn't correctly use the metaphor!
(Thunderbird, on the other hand, sets up a virtual "trash" folder, which is really just posts that have been marked for deletion-- that's the way it should work!)
Not to hammer home a point but... There's no such thing as a "color CCD". A color CCD is a B&W CCD with filters in front of it. The main camera on Spirit is a CCD with a color wheel filter, for maximum flexibility.
Virtualisation, like colour, honour, realise, emphasise, organisation, etc, is one of those words that is spelled differently between UK English and US English. Since the New Scientist is a UK publication, I would expect the UK spelling, you insensitive clod.
At least in the town that I live, we have only one choice for cable. One choice for cable internet. I, personally, can't get DSL (too far from the switch or somesuch).
So if I were to piss them off, and they shut off my service, then I have no broadband connection. After a couple of years of broadband, I just can't go back!
I wonder if you'll see more angry customers appear when they have an alternative.
What worries me is the "thou shalt not run servers" bit in my usage contract. I figure eventually they will try to screw me out of this, too... for no damn good reason.