That just means its time to start developing AI (neural net) networks. This way the internet technically will be able to route itself more efficiently based on a few guidelines.
Yes it does, if you know what you're doing you just run the program as a process any normal process in the background when you are done. Move to a diff server.. xhost + and type fg.
Acting like unix and BEING unix are two different things. Unix runs java fine last time I checked.. It was written on unix and runs fine on linux/solaris (SUN Microsystems, the people that wrote JAVA) if doesn't run good on solaris then it's not gonna run properly anywhere else/openbsd. Speed? JVM from mac thats supposed to be "faster"? Heh, I'll see it when it materializes. Also a quick note, every feature that I liked about *nix will not exist on OS/X. Otherwise they'd support 64bit tasking. I'm not offended by your zealotry, i'm offended that you seem to be informed only about the mac side of things and blind yourself to other things. However, that is what Apple wants. BTW; I can't wait to get a copy of OS/X
How do you kill -HUP process in windows from the command line?
How do you recursively go through all the commands you've typed?
How can you mount a brand new partition in windows or for that matter make a new parition, format it and then mount it without having to reboot?
AppleScript? Can you write a web server in applescript?! I can with bash. Yes perl does happen to float my boat. It also happens to be a language the purpose is to be portable. If you can tell me when repartitioning your hard drive on windows was possible without rebooting I'd love to know so I can try.
You are wrong..
ALL of the powerful tools I do have are more powerful under unix and that's why I use it. I'm not linux zealot. I use a mixture of solaris/linux/freebsd and have for a while now. Why? Because all the things you've mentioned might be ported but they are only as powerful as the OS they operate on top. You also seem to neglect that all of the commands/programs you do mention were invented on some type of unix (minus applescript which isn't just as or more powerful at all).
Don't assume, just because a program was ported its just as powerful. Especially since they run on two different OS's.
I agree; a GUI is alot more efficient..However opening, copying and deleting a large number of files is not a complex operation. It's just easier with a GUI. You can't compare chalk and cheese, it's like those kids that buy a bmw 3 series and rip off the 325i and put a M3 sign there.. When a real M3 pulls to the line; any fool can tell the difference.
You and the people that responded are the ones without the understanding. You have the whole concept utterly wrong. Indrema used linux and cpu specs (before X-box declared anything btw) to lower the cost of a console but making it powerful at the same time. They also figured that if people could develop for it freely gaming companies would see the platform as perfect for developing games, advertisements in magazines (just like cpu) etc etc.
That's what Indrema was trying to do.. and they wouldn't have lost a dime on machines as cpu prices continue to plummet and they'd gain a large audience.
I wanted to write a game for Indrema (because I wouldn't have to pay for any stupid licenses); Unlike Microsoft, Sony, Dreamcast etc. I won't buy an XBOX specifically because I'm not gonna pay licensing fees to write a game, samething for all the others.
This console provided the 1 chance that Linux had at gaming and troll's, fud spreaders and generally uninformed people such as yourself wish to do that in. Just think before you talk.
I also don't care if you don't run unix/linux/freebsd or whatever. We were here before you, so you can take a seat.
This isn't really anything new. NASA has been using Linux for quite sometime (save budget money) and not only that but Linux has been into space before this. Specifically in 96-97 (can't remember) where they sent a linux based machine in orbit that monitored plants. Linux Journal covered it.
What I really want to see now is a robot that goes to mars with a signal of kernelcode on an audio dat. It'll emit a signal into a large mountain and finally we will know that we are not alone. Of course that vital code will be most likely from the Linux kernel. Try shooting some NT code at the mountain and you could be dead!!
At least the gov't over there in Mexico understands what the fuck is going on. We still spend money for licenses and 100 million investigating president's dick sizes.
Good for Mexico, their people will be better off, get some better education. Which will hopefully mean more higher paid people to tax.. It all balances out. Plus we'll get some more people in the movement etc etc yadda yadda.
Wanna order a car online?? www.revolvolution.com and pick up a new s60/s80? Wanna pay taxes on it because of infrastructure? That's bullshit.. Everything infrastructure wise is already taxed to death.. From importing, to having things on the ground.. then you've got a metric weight system, if its a certain height, weight, smell, taste their is a tax. Yet some people are all for an internet tax.. Why? It's always been the same reason, they think they are making things "fair". Giving gov't more money to waste on investigating Bill Clinton's dick size. 100 million dollars wasted on that shit (probably more). Toilet seats made out of gold and more investigations. The gov't has always imposed a tax on the stupid and the stupid have always let them. So you can either be a fucking idiot and let them do so. Or tell em they aren't getting one more fucking dime.. Take care of our military, cutback on those goddamn investigations on peoples personal lives, and throw some of that ex-investigation money at NASA or schools or something. Damn man; its simple.. Stop letting them take and focus on more important things than taking and investigating someone new every couple of months.
I agree.. The simple fact is that when I go to an online merchant. The gov't isn't providing me with anything at all. I pay with my equipment to order something online. That is then packaged and shipped by the UPS or FedEX or whoever who PAY taxes already to run on the roads they do. I pay for everything, the computer, the electrcity, the internals, the bandwidth.. All this is; is just another way for them to try and make easy money.
You people need to learn to stop saying NAPSTER obtained stuff. None of the files you obtain using Napster software is from Napster. It's from your friend across the street. Fact remains here that Napster is just the middle man. Connecting person to person. The RIAA doesn't understand that and because of that what they are doing is fighting the people, not Napster. I wonder what 57 million people (voting or not, imagine for a second that even half of those people are registered voters) can do to the RIAA's bank account. The RIAA instead of trying to look at its current business plans and listen to the people, chose to fight them. For that it is inevitable (because everytime someones loads up napster they are saying that the RIAA's current model is poor whether they know it or not) that the RIAA will die off. They haven't won any fight; all they did was postpone and probably even make the movement stronger.
My take on it is that they should of made a deal with Napster because out of those 57 million users not all of them wish to steal. Infact most of them don't see it as stealing, many of them would love to pay 10 bucks a month to download whatever the hell they want. It's more convient, easier and they get only the stuff they want to hear. That's what all this boils down to. People don't want to go out and buy CD's anymore and the RIAA just doesn't get that. It's just not college kids using Napster. It's everyone.. People in general, Old, young etc. That in itself says something.
I'm not against the RIAA or against Napster or for any of them. I just see it as survival of the fittest. RIAA vs NAPSTER is how I see it. The only outcome I can logically come up with is above. RIAA has just sealed its fate.
I mean looking at the machine its nice and looks pretty but the simple matter is that Sun is still charging for Forte C++ personal edition which means if I don't buy forte c++ I can't compile a native solaris kernel for the box. Which in my opinion defeats the whole purpose. Not only that but the only thing I would really want outta the box is the processor (ultrasparc iie 500mhz yummm). Nothing else is really revolutionary about the box.
So how exactly does sun plan to hit the desktop? Sure looks like a fun machine to play with but I'm not sure if I'll give up my 800mhz machine running Linux for something that will do the samething except for the fact that its on a 64bit arch. Maybe it'll be good for research purposes but then again researchers already have the higher quality sun machines. So who exactly is sun targetting these machines to?
IMHO I believe its a little too late for Sun to try and jump in the desktop market. They should of started to provide low end machines like these maybe 1-2 years ago, with kernel source; and even if I had to pay for Forte C++ I would of probably bought one.
I have no need for it now. However it's the thought that counts. Thanks Sun, we will see how you fair in the battle arena now.
If out of that 50 billion over 5 years at least half of it goes to the artists. If that can't be worked out then no. I wont.. And I will continue to give the RIAA the finger. This isn't about napster, because I use it so infrequently (had to find the girl from ipanema) that its not even funny. What I want is the good artists to get paid so I don't have to listen to this same rap and hiphop, britney spears, nsync shit. So unless AT LEAST 25 billion goes to the artist; no go. Napster was what music needed, Now its time to get rid of the RIAA all together. Leech sucking bastards.
Music is opensource. If I like it.. i'll pay to support the artist.. If it sucks I'll try singing it but since I have no vocal talent.. I'll leave that to the original artist and throw him/her/them a couple of bucks to keep singing.
For what? I know whats better when the NT boxes lock up and linux keeps humming along. Marketing is a waste of time. It'd be so easy for a company like RedHat to kill off Microsoft's teenage desktop market. They keep working with Xfree and developing 3d Drivers and then run a silly commercial showing on one side.. Windows 98/ME crashing and then showing what a Linux desktop looks like with Enlightenment and all the add-ons. The AOL script kiddies will come in droves.
Microsoft isn't going to die. However they can't kill linux; There is no FUD they can say that will stop NT from locking up and letting dunix/linux/bsd/solaris continue its job. Everyone knows that.
Etoy.com was there first: if Etoys.com didn't like it then they should have renamed their domain to something else.
For instance if a goatsex company named "goastee.cx"; for examples sake, opened up and then sued goatse.cx for the pic they have on their site showing humans instead of goats. Who should lose what?
Evil motives? Maybe not; but infringing on someones FIRST post isn't cool either.
Best for everyone? So how come Bush rescinded the Hates Crimes Bill? You don't think something like making sure I don't get the shit kicked outta me because I'm black or white or chinese is important?! Fuck you and your "I voted for Bush because its better for all". It's not better for me; and it might not be better for you. I sure as hell hope that there isn't some race out there whos looking to kill a specific people or there is going to be serious problems; especially if you're the people they are looking for.
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That just means its time to start developing AI (neural net) networks. This way the internet technically will be able to route itself more efficiently based on a few guidelines.
thats including myself btw
You're an idiot.. you're not the only black slashdotter.. There are a couple.. I'd suspect at least 5-10 max.
It's X and it doesn't require any code.. Once you write a client thats IT
Yes it does, if you know what you're doing you just run the program as a process any normal process in the background when you are done. Move to a diff server.. xhost + and type fg.
Heh.. X has done this forever
So what? I've been able to do the same such things with Xwindows for like 10 yrs now.. What's your point?
Acting like unix and BEING unix are two different things. Unix runs java fine last time I checked.. It was written on unix and runs fine on linux/solaris (SUN Microsystems, the people that wrote JAVA) if doesn't run good on solaris then it's not gonna run properly anywhere else/openbsd. Speed? JVM from mac thats supposed to be "faster"? Heh, I'll see it when it materializes. Also a quick note, every feature that I liked about *nix will not exist on OS/X. Otherwise they'd support 64bit tasking. I'm not offended by your zealotry, i'm offended that you seem to be informed only about the mac side of things and blind yourself to other things. However, that is what Apple wants. BTW; I can't wait to get a copy of OS/X
How do you kill -HUP process in windows from the command line?
How do you recursively go through all the commands you've typed?
How can you mount a brand new partition in windows or for that matter make a new parition, format it and then mount it without having to reboot?
AppleScript? Can you write a web server in applescript?! I can with bash. Yes perl does happen to float my boat. It also happens to be a language the purpose is to be portable. If you can tell me when repartitioning your hard drive on windows was possible without rebooting I'd love to know so I can try.
You are wrong..
ALL of the powerful tools I do have are more powerful under unix and that's why I use it. I'm not linux zealot. I use a mixture of solaris/linux/freebsd and have for a while now. Why? Because all the things you've mentioned might be ported but they are only as powerful as the OS they operate on top. You also seem to neglect that all of the commands/programs you do mention were invented on some type of unix (minus applescript which isn't just as or more powerful at all).
Don't assume, just because a program was ported its just as powerful. Especially since they run on two different OS's.
I agree; a GUI is alot more efficient..However opening, copying and deleting a large number of files is not a complex operation. It's just easier with a GUI. You can't compare chalk and cheese, it's like those kids that buy a bmw 3 series and rip off the 325i and put a M3 sign there.. When a real M3 pulls to the line; any fool can tell the difference.
You and the people that responded are the ones without the understanding. You have the whole concept utterly wrong. Indrema used linux and cpu specs (before X-box declared anything btw) to lower the cost of a console but making it powerful at the same time. They also figured that if people could develop for it freely gaming companies would see the platform as perfect for developing games, advertisements in magazines (just like cpu) etc etc.
That's what Indrema was trying to do.. and they wouldn't have lost a dime on machines as cpu prices continue to plummet and they'd gain a large audience.
I wanted to write a game for Indrema (because I wouldn't have to pay for any stupid licenses); Unlike Microsoft, Sony, Dreamcast etc. I won't buy an XBOX specifically because I'm not gonna pay licensing fees to write a game, samething for all the others.
This console provided the 1 chance that Linux had at gaming and troll's, fud spreaders and generally uninformed people such as yourself wish to do that in. Just think before you talk.
I also don't care if you don't run unix/linux/freebsd or whatever. We were here before you, so you can take a seat.
No, you are an idiot for speaking without knowing what you are talking about. Go watch Mission to Mars dumbass.
This isn't really anything new. NASA has been using Linux for quite sometime (save budget money) and not only that but Linux has been into space before this. Specifically in 96-97 (can't remember) where they sent a linux based machine in orbit that monitored plants. Linux Journal covered it.
What I really want to see now is a robot that goes to mars with a signal of kernelcode on an audio dat. It'll emit a signal into a large mountain and finally we will know that we are not alone. Of course that vital code will be most likely from the Linux kernel. Try shooting some NT code at the mountain and you could be dead!!
At least the gov't over there in Mexico understands what the fuck is going on. We still spend money for licenses and 100 million investigating president's dick sizes.
Good for Mexico, their people will be better off, get some better education. Which will hopefully mean more higher paid people to tax.. It all balances out. Plus we'll get some more people in the movement etc etc yadda yadda.
Wanna order a car online?? www.revolvolution.com and pick up a new s60/s80? Wanna pay taxes on it because of infrastructure? That's bullshit.. Everything infrastructure wise is already taxed to death.. From importing, to having things on the ground.. then you've got a metric weight system, if its a certain height, weight, smell, taste their is a tax. Yet some people are all for an internet tax.. Why? It's always been the same reason, they think they are making things "fair". Giving gov't more money to waste on investigating Bill Clinton's dick size. 100 million dollars wasted on that shit (probably more). Toilet seats made out of gold and more investigations. The gov't has always imposed a tax on the stupid and the stupid have always let them. So you can either be a fucking idiot and let them do so. Or tell em they aren't getting one more fucking dime.. Take care of our military, cutback on those goddamn investigations on peoples personal lives, and throw some of that ex-investigation money at NASA or schools or something. Damn man; its simple.. Stop letting them take and focus on more important things than taking and investigating someone new every couple of months.
I agree.. The simple fact is that when I go to an online merchant. The gov't isn't providing me with anything at all. I pay with my equipment to order something online. That is then packaged and shipped by the UPS or FedEX or whoever who PAY taxes already to run on the roads they do. I pay for everything, the computer, the electrcity, the internals, the bandwidth.. All this is; is just another way for them to try and make easy money.
I pay 8.25% - 8.50% sales tax in NY. It sucks.
You obviously don't follow MySQL.. If you don't know what you are talking about then don't talk. Period.
indrema.
You people need to learn to stop saying NAPSTER obtained stuff. None of the files you obtain using Napster software is from Napster. It's from your friend across the street. Fact remains here that Napster is just the middle man. Connecting person to person. The RIAA doesn't understand that and because of that what they are doing is fighting the people, not Napster. I wonder what 57 million people (voting or not, imagine for a second that even half of those people are registered voters) can do to the RIAA's bank account. The RIAA instead of trying to look at its current business plans and listen to the people, chose to fight them. For that it is inevitable (because everytime someones loads up napster they are saying that the RIAA's current model is poor whether they know it or not) that the RIAA will die off. They haven't won any fight; all they did was postpone and probably even make the movement stronger.
My take on it is that they should of made a deal with Napster because out of those 57 million users not all of them wish to steal. Infact most of them don't see it as stealing, many of them would love to pay 10 bucks a month to download whatever the hell they want. It's more convient, easier and they get only the stuff they want to hear. That's what all this boils down to. People don't want to go out and buy CD's anymore and the RIAA just doesn't get that. It's just not college kids using Napster. It's everyone.. People in general, Old, young etc. That in itself says something.
I'm not against the RIAA or against Napster or for any of them. I just see it as survival of the fittest. RIAA vs NAPSTER is how I see it. The only outcome I can logically come up with is above. RIAA has just sealed its fate.
Flame if need be.
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I mean looking at the machine its nice and looks pretty but the simple matter is that Sun is still charging for Forte C++ personal edition which means if I don't buy forte c++ I can't compile a native solaris kernel for the box. Which in my opinion defeats the whole purpose. Not only that but the only thing I would really want outta the box is the processor (ultrasparc iie 500mhz yummm). Nothing else is really revolutionary about the box.
So how exactly does sun plan to hit the desktop? Sure looks like a fun machine to play with but I'm not sure if I'll give up my 800mhz machine running Linux for something that will do the samething except for the fact that its on a 64bit arch. Maybe it'll be good for research purposes but then again researchers already have the higher quality sun machines. So who exactly is sun targetting these machines to?
IMHO I believe its a little too late for Sun to try and jump in the desktop market. They should of started to provide low end machines like these maybe 1-2 years ago, with kernel source; and even if I had to pay for Forte C++ I would of probably bought one.
I have no need for it now. However it's the thought that counts. Thanks Sun, we will see how you fair in the battle arena now.
Instead of trying to make money following "what people want to hear" They'll make whatever they like.
Get it? Maybe Britney Spears doesn't wanna do pop anymore and wants to try classical or something.
If out of that 50 billion over 5 years at least half of it goes to the artists. If that can't be worked out then no. I wont.. And I will continue to give the RIAA the finger. This isn't about napster, because I use it so infrequently (had to find the girl from ipanema) that its not even funny. What I want is the good artists to get paid so I don't have to listen to this same rap and hiphop, britney spears, nsync shit. So unless AT LEAST 25 billion goes to the artist; no go. Napster was what music needed, Now its time to get rid of the RIAA all together. Leech sucking bastards.
Music is opensource. If I like it.. i'll pay to support the artist.. If it sucks I'll try singing it but since I have no vocal talent.. I'll leave that to the original artist and throw him/her/them a couple of bucks to keep singing.
Its fixed since 2.4.0-ac2 or something.. Just download AC's patch.
For what? I know whats better when the NT boxes lock up and linux keeps humming along. Marketing is a waste of time. It'd be so easy for a company like RedHat to kill off Microsoft's teenage desktop market. They keep working with Xfree and developing 3d Drivers and then run a silly commercial showing on one side.. Windows 98/ME crashing and then showing what a Linux desktop looks like with Enlightenment and all the add-ons. The AOL script kiddies will come in droves.
Microsoft isn't going to die. However they can't kill linux; There is no FUD they can say that will stop NT from locking up and letting dunix/linux/bsd/solaris continue its job. Everyone knows that.
When is the Alan Cox patch that addresses the hang on bootup (virtual framebuffer systems) going to be merged into the stable 2.4.x series?
Etoy.com was there first: if Etoys.com didn't like it then they should have renamed their domain to something else. For instance if a goatsex company named "goastee.cx"; for examples sake, opened up and then sued goatse.cx for the pic they have on their site showing humans instead of goats. Who should lose what? Evil motives? Maybe not; but infringing on someones FIRST post isn't cool either.
Best for everyone? So how come Bush rescinded the Hates Crimes Bill? You don't think something like making sure I don't get the shit kicked outta me because I'm black or white or chinese is important?! Fuck you and your "I voted for Bush because its better for all". It's not better for me; and it might not be better for you. I sure as hell hope that there isn't some race out there whos looking to kill a specific people or there is going to be serious problems; especially if you're the people they are looking for.
out.