and if the family does not have a handy root-accessible web account somewhere where they can run a persistant web process within the terms of use of said web hoster?
Plus, you'll need a web hosting account that supports Zope (there are some, but less common).
ermmmm that's the same argument twice. There are plenty of Zope hosts out there (although not on every street corner like static page or PHP hosting are) - go talk to George at Zettai!. You'll get enough for this kind of site for $60/year.
Zope + Plone are great, albeit huge software products, but this is definitely not for the uninitiated nor a techno illiterate user.
Ooh look - my troll-o-meter just bent out of shape. Once installed, Plone is simple to operate (and a simple install takes about 10 minutes). As anyone who's actually used it will be able to tell you.
Much of what you say is true... only if you're building on the raw app server (remember, Zope is an application server capable of many things, not an 'out of the box CMS'), rather than using one of the many capable CMS applications that sit on top of it.
In particular, though, I have an argument with:
I've never seen a photo-album plug in
*cough*CMFPhoto*cough*
Very, very nice. You just upload photos into a folder with ftp, webdav or just via an HTTP form, and it handles indexing, thumbnailing (via Python Imaging Library or Imagemagick), templating and so on. There's a version which plays very nicely with Plone, and one which doesn't need the CMF API.
Zope has manyprebuilt applications and CMS frameworks, while the core app server takes care of all the hard stuff like version control and authentication. I've set up sites for friends, relatives and non-technical co-workers based on Plone, and it's cake.
This was also accellerated by Anglo Saxon not being used as a formal and written language for several hundred years as pretty much everything being used for formality was either in Latin (in the Church) or Norman French (almost everywhere else).
So the simplifications (note that this is not the same as decline) that are always made in spoken language tended to be incorporated within the language as a whole, while anyone interested in grammar was looking the other way.
However, that's not to say that when English emerged back into formal use at the time of Chaucer that there was a single English. There's a great anecdote of mutual incomprehension when some people from London went 20 miles down the river to the Thames estuary and tried to buy eggs. They couldn't communicate this to the locals as the local word wasn't 'egges' but 'yeggis' (or similar - I'm quoting from memory).
Even Middle (Chaucerian) English had a much more complex grammatical structure than the English of Shakespeare just 150 or so years later.
When I were a lad, we 'ad to log out o't' system 20 minutes before we logged in, work in a plutonium encased room, 500 metres down a mineshaft in a vacuum week in, week out, remove all t'data we were trying to print and then when we come 'ome, our sysadmin would *clickety* our pr0n collection, fill our 'ouse wi' halon and 'ave t' RIAA visit us at 2am.
And you tell that t' kids o' today, and they won't believe you.
When there's a cop sitting at the side of the road, everyone goes a pretty much the speed limit.
This is something I wish was taught in civics lessons in every school in the country: it is the probability that law breaking will be detected and punished that matters most to deterrence, not the severity of the punishment.
Take a look at the way that the Panopticon worked. It's a classic 18th Century prison design that ensured that every prisoner had a feeling of being watched, without actually knowing for certain whether they were or not.
The net effect is that you get the same effect of watching all the prisoners, without actually having to undergo all the tedium of actually watching.
In the UK, only a small percentage of speed cameras actually contain any film or emit radar. However, except for drivers with radar detectors, the effect of one on driver speed is the same as a fully operational camera. Only the police don't have to spend time/money collecting and developing film.
In the UK it already is as it breaches Data Protection legislation going back to the 80s. Even before considering the sale of the data, simply collecting the data without consent is an offence in its own right.
To stay the right side of the law, data users have to follow the Data Protection Principles which are a high-level summary of the law.
As well as the basic penalties of fines and jail for directors, the Information Commissioner can walk into any company and turn off their databases on simple suspicion of data misuse pending an investigation, as happened to a major utilities company who were thought to be wrongly passing data between two separate arms of the company (energy supply and domestic appliances).
And, somehow, the British economy managed to cope with a new government coming into office quite literally overnight. Like it always does.
A fact not unrelated to having a permanent civil service (Alasdair Campbell et al excluded), rather than replacing the entire staff with your own people when you take power.
Incidentally, the last constituency to declare a result was Winchester, Hampshire, at 6.18pm,
Even more remarkable - dispersed island-based constituencies such as Western Isles, Orkney and Shetland or Argyll, Bute and Strathclyde declared before this at 2:15am, 5:23am and 11:43am respectively, although they didn't have significant recounts to delay the declaration.
Imperialism is more the kind of thing that Hussein was into, in his conquest of areas of Iraq not populated by people of his nationality.
Oddly enough, the "multi-national" Iraq was a creation of the Western powers, not of Saddam's conquests.
To be even more accurate, pretty much all the Middle Eastern boundaries were defined by the western powers to ensure that each kept hold of the oil producing regions they had interests in. Take a look at the straight line borders on the map and tell me that they are the natural borders based on ethnicity and natural features.
You should also bear in mind that up until the day before the invasion of Kuwait, Saddam was our big hero in the region, using the chemical and biological weapons sold to him by the US and UK to oppress his own people with our full support. The lead US person went by the name 'Rumsfeld'. Yes, that Rumsfeld.
It's only since Saddam stopped being a compliant leader of a client state that Iraq became a 'rogue state'.
Imperialism does not always involve direct conquest. The Romans were past masters at setting up "client states",
As were most of the 19th Century empires. Clear example: the Indian maharajahs running client states on behalf of the British Empire.
A nation that oppresses other nations cannot itself be free.
Or, if you prefer Gandhi "What do I think about [American] democracy? I think it would be a very good idea" (with one amend - the original quote referred to British democracy)
Their database has got a 98 year old woman who lives in Albania with a PhD, no job and an income of less than a thousand bucks a year.
And you wonder why you get ads that have absolutely no interest for you? And why advertisers have to shout lounder and louder to get through a mass of untargeted ads?
Advertisers would far rather spend less by buying fewer, smaller ad slots that are targeted accurately. Much better return on their spend. Like the guru said I know half my advertising is wasted. I wish I knew which half.
This is nothing to do with "could it work with $browser" and everything to do with "have we fully (and I mean *fully* tested) $browser with our systems to the level that we can guarantee it will work"
Having worked in online services for one of the largest retail banking groups in the UK, I can reasonably confidently say that those days are gone.
The bank in question started by using an ActiveX control for encryption, limiting access to Win/IE users, but has since seen the light of 'not all customers will go there'. It now operates via standard 128-bit SSL and normal HTML.
If this passes the security audit (and getting anything past a bank's security audit is a fun and interesting game, believe me) *and* offers near-universal customer coverage, there's no pressure to do anything else.
An important thing to realise about targeted ads is that the number of ads won't change - you won't be suddenly blitzed with many more ads. The difference is that the ads you'll see will more frequently be relevant to you.
Less dross. More stuff you're interested in. Sounds good?
If anything, the total number of ads will tend to decrease as advertisers won't need to plaster every damned product to make sure they're all seen by the target market. Further, I would expect that each targeting site would be much more expensive than a static site (but probably cheaper than all the static sites they'd need to cover all the product lines).
Both of these will tend to make the RoI calculation come out in favour of few advertising sites, each with many potential ads they can show.
I just hope that the seats they have in these easy cinemas are more comfortable than the seats in EastJet planes. If you've ever flow EasyJet you'll know that they have the most horribly uncomfortable seats.
I have, and have also flown on pretty much every shorthaul airline flying in UK airspace. Easyjet fly 737-700s, the same as BA and BMI, and the seats are generally standard seats (although BA & BMI do some customised improvements for business class). Where you will find differences is in seat pitch (ie legroom) and the amount of wear that the seat has endured. Doing very well in filling capacity is naturally going to have an impact on the number of bums that have sat on each seat...
Also to fly easyjet you have to get both a train and a bus from central london all the way out to luton - adds a heap to the ticket price.
Compared to the free transfer to Stansted, Gatwick, Heathrow and City? (not) With the exception of City, they're all miles out. The Thameslink up to Luton is fast and not too expensive (compare: Heathrow or Gatwick express). The bus is a wee shuttle bus from the off-airport station. It takes 5 mins and it's free.
then there is no allocated seating so you just have to scramble for a seat, with entry order based on the order you arrive at the airport and check in.
You want allocated seating? Fly BA and pay for the priviledge. Or show up in time. Or remember that compared to BMI/BA etc, few of EJ's passengers are regular flyers, so don't know which seats are the better seats.
they often delay and cancel flights at the very last minute because there are not enough seats filled.
No, they can't do this. They can't voluntarily delay because then they'd lose slots (actually, they're under a lot of timetable pressure to get the planes turned round in much less than traditional timeframes), and if your aircraft is needed in Luton to take a plane full to Barcelona, there's damn all use in it being still in Glasgow because they haven't sold enough seats. Scheduling airlines is a complex business, which is why bad weather or strike action in one location can screw the entire network for quite a long time.
BA's eTicketing is very smart, though, and they don't arse about with the 'You must have govt issued photo id to get on a domestic flight' crap. Although this didn't stop someone making it all the way through Luton security right onto the plane without so much as a ticket last week (fortunately, EJ's on-plane headcount didn't tally so they found him/her before takeoff).
If pot is legal in Canada, then we (the US; I'm American) are going to have to radically overhaul the way we monitor US-Canada border crossings. It would be an absolute nightmare (even more than it already is) for the US to have pot illegal and for Canada to have it legal.
s/pot/booze/
It's been tried before... didn't work that time either.
It's also awfully reminiscent of a cold-war partitioned Germany. Put up all the razorwire you like (and it would be a hell of a good contract to supply it), people will still want the freedom of the West^WNorth.
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If your family are using Linux, you're SoL, but from the context of the question (need an idiot-proof solution), I suspect this is not the case.
Easily done - build the Wiki on top of an app server that handles the security for you.
Without wanting to flog a dead horse, Zope will do this for you. Ooh look - a Zope-based wiki. Plays nicely on top of Plone, too.
Zope has WebDAV out of the box - any Zope-based CMS will therefore have the capability.
ermmmm that's the same argument twice. There are plenty of Zope hosts out there (although not on every street corner like static page or PHP hosting are) - go talk to George at Zettai!. You'll get enough for this kind of site for $60/year.
Ooh look - my troll-o-meter just bent out of shape. Once installed, Plone is simple to operate (and a simple install takes about 10 minutes). As anyone who's actually used it will be able to tell you.
Much of what you say is true... only if you're building on the raw app server (remember, Zope is an application server capable of many things, not an 'out of the box CMS'), rather than using one of the many capable CMS applications that sit on top of it.
In particular, though, I have an argument with:
*cough*CMFPhoto*cough* Very, very nice. You just upload photos into a folder with ftp, webdav or just via an HTTP form, and it handles indexing, thumbnailing (via Python Imaging Library or Imagemagick), templating and so on. There's a version which plays very nicely with Plone, and one which doesn't need the CMF API.
Zope has many prebuilt applications and CMS frameworks, while the core app server takes care of all the hard stuff like version control and authentication. I've set up sites for friends, relatives and non-technical co-workers based on Plone, and it's cake.
This was also accellerated by Anglo Saxon not being used as a formal and written language for several hundred years as pretty much everything being used for formality was either in Latin (in the Church) or Norman French (almost everywhere else).
So the simplifications (note that this is not the same as decline) that are always made in spoken language tended to be incorporated within the language as a whole, while anyone interested in grammar was looking the other way.
However, that's not to say that when English emerged back into formal use at the time of Chaucer that there was a single English. There's a great anecdote of mutual incomprehension when some people from London went 20 miles down the river to the Thames estuary and tried to buy eggs. They couldn't communicate this to the locals as the local word wasn't 'egges' but 'yeggis' (or similar - I'm quoting from memory).
Even Middle (Chaucerian) English had a much more complex grammatical structure than the English of Shakespeare just 150 or so years later.
When I were a lad, we 'ad to log out o't' system 20 minutes before we logged in, work in a plutonium encased room, 500 metres down a mineshaft in a vacuum week in, week out, remove all t'data we were trying to print and then when we come 'ome, our sysadmin would *clickety* our pr0n collection, fill our 'ouse wi' halon and 'ave t' RIAA visit us at 2am.
And you tell that t' kids o' today, and they won't believe you.
Nope.
Take a look at the way that the Panopticon worked. It's a classic 18th Century prison design that ensured that every prisoner had a feeling of being watched, without actually knowing for certain whether they were or not.
The net effect is that you get the same effect of watching all the prisoners, without actually having to undergo all the tedium of actually watching.
In the UK, only a small percentage of speed cameras actually contain any film or emit radar. However, except for drivers with radar detectors, the effect of one on driver speed is the same as a fully operational camera. Only the police don't have to spend time/money collecting and developing film.
In the UK it already is as it breaches Data Protection legislation going back to the 80s. Even before considering the sale of the data, simply collecting the data without consent is an offence in its own right.
To stay the right side of the law, data users have to follow the Data Protection Principles which are a high-level summary of the law.
As well as the basic penalties of fines and jail for directors, the Information Commissioner can walk into any company and turn off their databases on simple suspicion of data misuse pending an investigation, as happened to a major utilities company who were thought to be wrongly passing data between two separate arms of the company (energy supply and domestic appliances).
A fact not unrelated to having a permanent civil service (Alasdair Campbell et al excluded), rather than replacing the entire staff with your own people when you take power.
Even more remarkable - dispersed island-based constituencies such as Western Isles, Orkney and Shetland or Argyll, Bute and Strathclyde declared before this at 2:15am, 5:23am and 11:43am respectively, although they didn't have significant recounts to delay the declaration.
To be even more accurate, pretty much all the Middle Eastern boundaries were defined by the western powers to ensure that each kept hold of the oil producing regions they had interests in. Take a look at the straight line borders on the map and tell me that they are the natural borders based on ethnicity and natural features.
You should also bear in mind that up until the day before the invasion of Kuwait, Saddam was our big hero in the region, using the chemical and biological weapons sold to him by the US and UK to oppress his own people with our full support. The lead US person went by the name 'Rumsfeld'. Yes, that Rumsfeld.
It's only since Saddam stopped being a compliant leader of a client state that Iraq became a 'rogue state'.
As were most of the 19th Century empires. Clear example: the Indian maharajahs running client states on behalf of the British Empire.
A nation that oppresses other nations cannot itself be free.
Or, if you prefer Gandhi "What do I think about [American] democracy? I think it would be a very good idea" (with one amend - the original quote referred to British democracy)
And you wonder why you get ads that have absolutely no interest for you? And why advertisers have to shout lounder and louder to get through a mass of untargeted ads?
Advertisers would far rather spend less by buying fewer, smaller ad slots that are targeted accurately. Much better return on their spend. Like the guru said I know half my advertising is wasted. I wish I knew which half.
This is nothing to do with "could it work with $browser" and everything to do with "have we fully (and I mean *fully* tested) $browser with our systems to the level that we can guarantee it will work"
Banks don't work any other way.
Having worked in online services for one of the largest retail banking groups in the UK, I can reasonably confidently say that those days are gone.
The bank in question started by using an ActiveX control for encryption, limiting access to Win/IE users, but has since seen the light of 'not all customers will go there'. It now operates via standard 128-bit SSL and normal HTML.
If this passes the security audit (and getting anything past a bank's security audit is a fun and interesting game, believe me) *and* offers near-universal customer coverage, there's no pressure to do anything else.
An important thing to realise about targeted ads is that the number of ads won't change - you won't be suddenly blitzed with many more ads. The difference is that the ads you'll see will more frequently be relevant to you.
Less dross. More stuff you're interested in. Sounds good?
If anything, the total number of ads will tend to decrease as advertisers won't need to plaster every damned product to make sure they're all seen by the target market. Further, I would expect that each targeting site would be much more expensive than a static site (but probably cheaper than all the static sites they'd need to cover all the product lines).
Both of these will tend to make the RoI calculation come out in favour of few advertising sites, each with many potential ads they can show.
Tell you what, you name your missions/ships after American[1] scientists and we crazy Euros will call it quits.
[1] Scientists who happen to have been living in America when they got the big break, but are from elsewhere don't count.
I have, and have also flown on pretty much every shorthaul airline flying in UK airspace. Easyjet fly 737-700s, the same as BA and BMI, and the seats are generally standard seats (although BA & BMI do some customised improvements for business class). Where you will find differences is in seat pitch (ie legroom) and the amount of wear that the seat has endured. Doing very well in filling capacity is naturally going to have an impact on the number of bums that have sat on each seat...
Compared to the free transfer to Stansted, Gatwick, Heathrow and City? (not) With the exception of City, they're all miles out. The Thameslink up to Luton is fast and not too expensive (compare: Heathrow or Gatwick express). The bus is a wee shuttle bus from the off-airport station. It takes 5 mins and it's free.
You want allocated seating? Fly BA and pay for the priviledge. Or show up in time. Or remember that compared to BMI/BA etc, few of EJ's passengers are regular flyers, so don't know which seats are the better seats.
No, they can't do this. They can't voluntarily delay because then they'd lose slots (actually, they're under a lot of timetable pressure to get the planes turned round in much less than traditional timeframes), and if your aircraft is needed in Luton to take a plane full to Barcelona, there's damn all use in it being still in Glasgow because they haven't sold enough seats. Scheduling airlines is a complex business, which is why bad weather or strike action in one location can screw the entire network for quite a long time.
BA's eTicketing is very smart, though, and they don't arse about with the 'You must have govt issued photo id to get on a domestic flight' crap. Although this didn't stop someone making it all the way through Luton security right onto the plane without so much as a ticket last week (fortunately, EJ's on-plane headcount didn't tally so they found him/her before takeoff).
Ummmm where do you think Stelios got the EasyJet business model from? Answer: SW Air.
Apart, that is, from:
Also (added here because this long an unordered list in a submission kept failing): Ventspils, Latvia and Las Vegas, NV
Actually, it was Reagan saying that the Russians didn't have a word for detente.
It's been tried before... didn't work that time either.
It's also awfully reminiscent of a cold-war partitioned Germany. Put up all the razorwire you like (and it would be a hell of a good contract to supply it), people will still want the freedom of the West^WNorth.
Reminds me of this:
Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends
We're so glad you could attend
Come inside! Come inside!
There behind a glass is a real blade of grass
be careful as you pass.
Move along! Move along!
Profit is flat, but margins are up. They're selling more higher value machines (PowerBooks mostly) compared to lower value ones.
High margin is *good* as you're then in the world of strong ROCE.