I own an SV24, bought it about 2 months back. Heat isn't an issue, I put a dvd drive in it, a tv tuner card, 1ghz celery, and 40 gig wd hd (all running Debian linux of course:) Heat isn't an issue even with dnetc running full blast. With all the racket the thing causes, you wouldn't think it would be an issue. A quieter rear and cpu fan would be easy mods, but the loudest fan is probably the small psu fan, which is not going to be easy to replace.
Different power supply, different arrangement of the HDD, rear fan is in a different place, and it sports the word "quiet" on it, which is always welcome. Also the pci slot is straight up, no angle adapter is needed. I kinda like the looks of the front of this one better.
I own a shuttle SV24, nice little box, but it's quite noisy. A better/quieter rear fan is going to be my first mod to it.
I've I'm to forget about the SB Live what's a good sound card to get under linux that supports hardware mixing, and has high quality output, hopefully 4 channel sound and optical out.
I have been using a ymfpci 744 card's ($25, 4 channel sound, hardware mixing, optical out), but their quality is less than stellar. They are downright noisy in windows xp. They're much quieter under linux, but still not perfect, especially with high quality headphones.
I tried turning all sorts of winxp sliders off under xp, but I still get a high pitched whine that changes when I open and close apps.
Is it possible to get what I want without dropping $500 on a professional level card?
Interesting, I have a gf2 gts and everything solid for me. I'm running Debian unstable, so I have the latest and greatest of all the software.
What you described sound like a hardware problem. What cpu you have? Do you have a rear case fan? How hot does your cpu get? Try updating your bios to the latest rev and turn off any "turbo mode" your bios may have, maybe disabling agp 4x mode with the nvidia drivers (make sure you have the latest version of these). Or if your linux install is old, you may try upgrading to newer software, and the latest 2.4.17 kernel. Maybe try different ram, if you have two sticks, try taking one out then the other. Or maybe try running http://freshmeat.net/projects/memtest86/ and see if that finds any memory problems.
Try moving your sound card into a different pci slots, I've had that solve weird random crashes before.
I used to have a similar problem with quake3 locking up, but I upgraded my bios, and that made it go away. It can be really frustrating, I know, seeing as how I sank a grand or so in parts awhile ago to build a new linux machine only to have it crash all the time. Fortunately I was able to fix it.
I'm running window maker and mozilla as my browser. Mozilla crashes every now and then,.9.7 sucked ass, jan 7th build is rock solid so far, but anyway, X remains up. I haven't had an X crash that I can remember in probably well over a year. I used to run gnome myself, but I couldn't stand the random crashes, so I switched back to my old stand by of wmaker which was more solid.
My Nvidia GF2 GTS card is really solid with the binary nvidia drivers, with pretty darn good performance at that. I definitely wouldn't mind a GF3 though.:)
I don't know why every complains about nvidia cards and their closed source drivers, I've yet to have a problem with them.
Now what exactly are you going to run on Linux that will take advantage of the Geforce 3?
Quake3 or RTCW with full eye candy on. Sure there's only two, but really, what else is there?:) I keep plenty entertained with all the Quake3 mods, mostly with soley Q3F. And yes, having that card would be advantageous, since with my GF2 GTS, I can only run at 800x600 with all the quality settings and the framerate I desire when playing Q3F, especially during heavy fire fights. Having antialiasing on probably would be nice too, but crank yer res up to 1600x1280, and then there's no need.:)
fact #1: Not all hardware that works under Windows, works and has good support/drivers under Linux.
fact #2 Almost all hardware that works under Linux will work under Windows.
So with that being said, the hardware picked all has Linux users in mind because of fact #1, so therefore, the ultimate Linux system. You can probably use this same hardware for windows due to fact #2.
So what would you call it? "The ultimate System that can be used with Linux and probably Windows"?
I had an gf2 mx, I thought was a bit on the slow side for 32bit color (because of the more narrow memory bandwidth). Bought a gf2 gts which is much better, but I definitely wouldn't mind a gf3.
If you don't mind 640x480 16 bit color, all detail and lighting set to the fastest, and only a half ass framerate, then sure a voodoo3's plenty. Personally, I like full eye candy, at least 800x600, 32 bit color, full detail, and ideally a framerate that doesn't drop below 100. It's all a matter of preference.
RTCW mutliplayer can be absolutely brutal on the hardware (my gf2 mx card choked hard core), but it looks great!
Definitely an interesting link. I've always been sorely dissapointed by the sound output from traditional sound cards. It looks like the only "excellent" card with linux support with the Midiman delta66, and I don't know about you, but dropping $350-500 on a soundcard just seems kinda nuts. I enjoy good sounding audio, but not at audiophile prices.:)
Of course, chances of linux drivers for an external usb device is probably slim to none also... *sigh* I guess I'll just put up with crappy sound for the time being.
But you can try pushing a different distribution at your installfests, and install something I feel's better, more standards compliant for building software from source, more easily upgradable, and doesn't mind cheapbytes selling cd's labeled with their name. I'm of course talking about Debian. I switched to Debian about 2 years ago, and haven't looked back since.
Debian's a little harder to install currently, (that's improving more and more), but any halfway intelligent person should be able to install, by reading the available documentation, which I find quite nice. You just can't be afraid to read and try things. Plus there's always irc.debian.org channel #debian for any other questions you really can't figure out easily without reading through 50 pages of stuff.
One you get everything up and running, installing a new program is as simple as type "apt-get install abiword" or whatever new package you wish. Security issue just come out? 99% of the time you'll be patched by apt-get update && apt-get -u upgrade. You can even upgrade a box through apt-get to a newer debian version. Not more buying cd's again and reinstalling.
I know, I know, it's not really the answer to your question about RedHat licensing, but it does solve the problem, it just solves the problem my way. Which is what you get if you ask me a question.:)
Feel free to either agree or disagree with me, I don't care. Don't like my solution? Try someone else's, no hard feelings.
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Yeah, it's cute little machine.:) I just found out about the via c3 myself, it's a promising lower power, low noise chip, I wish more people would push chips in that direction, as I'm around computers enough that I'm starting to despise how noisy they are, especially if you want to play music where the dynamics actually matter.:) I recently put a zalman flower in my 1.33ghz Athlon box and now the worst thing is that the hard drives make too much noise now!
It's a definite improvement over the Aluminum tornado that I had in the box before, it even runs 6 deg C cooler now.
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It's definitely pretty tight, though hacking in your own case fan might solve the airflow problem. I'm not a big fan of case modding, but I believe I might have to make the new case fan my first attempt.:)
The psu fan is still pretty darn noisy though, with the size of the psu, there's no way that's going to be easily replaced.
The big thing about the via c3 is that supposedly the 866's and 933's are out, but I can't find them anywhere for sale. They have a slow fpu (runs at half clock), but that doesn't seem to hurt real world applications that that much suprisingly enough. I'll probably have to try one of those down the road.:)
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Doh, I meant to reply to the parent of this comment's parent, oh well. Looks like I'm having one of those days again.:/
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It comes with mobo, and power supply, on board ether, s3 savage4 agp (even tv out), audio (only 2 channel), usb, firewire, plus one pci slot. I personally put a wintv card in it so I can use it as a tv, and a dvd drive to play dvd, but you could easily put in a dolby 5.1 card instead of the wintv card.
I put a 1 ghz celery in it, but as it stands it's rather noisy, casefan + cpu fan + psu fan + hd. But if you get a via c3 it should be able to run without a cpu fan.
It also should be possible to also hack out the small, noisy case fan that it has now and put in larger, and quieter case fan. Dremmel tool is probably required for this one, or a very nimble hand with tin snips.:)
Another thing you might to do quiet it up a bit is search for silent drives, I think seagate either makes or is going to make a quiet ide drive. There's also sleaves you can get for ide drives to quiet them, but that might require your only 5.25 bay, which means you'd then need a usb or firewire dvd drive.
Mine's more of a do it yourselfer but it has pretty much standard hardware, and should have enough horsepower to do pretty much anything that you'd want to do with it, sans FPS games, because of the slow 3d video. 2d is fine though.
sv24=$250 via c3~$70? hd=$100-150, dvd drive=$60? You pretty much have a machine after that, and any thing else is optional.
That's my main question that hasn't been answered yet. I like some top 40 stuff, but my real passion in music now has been mostly eletronic based music. Eletronica/trance/goa/house/some dance/jungle/etc. I currently can't get any of that music on the FM band. I have to turn to shoutcast for that. ( www.digitallyimported.com rules btw ) but I can't listen to DI wherever I want, I need bandwidth at that location, which definitely isn't always available.
If XM or SR or whatever it is has this type of music, with a decent DJ's, and someone just didn't push the random eletronic music button, then I'll be all over it.
Oh and the player is going to have to be small (discman sized), so I can carry it around, use it with headphones, hook it up to a friends stereo, hook it up to my car ( why do car stereo makers refuse to put in an external input as standard btw? ), whatever, for $300 a player, I'm not definitely not gonna buy two. (question, if I do buy two, do have to pay two subscriptions? if so, there's no way anyone's gonna fall for it then)
mozilla mail is quite nice and featureful, and you have the ability to turn off javascript in email easily (think it's off by default). suports pop3/imap/and imap-ssl quite nicely. I normally use pine on my linux at work, so I can ssh in from anywhere, no config needed, just putty (ssh client). It works well, I have mozilla mail set up to point at my pine mail dir, and reads all the files in as folders just fine. So I can use pine most of the time, but when I want to view a graphic or something that someone sent me easily, I can just load up moz mail.
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Would you rather they used tapes/records that hiss/pop/etc on TOP of the narrow static spectrum of the FM band? If you can transfer data "losslessly" (is that a word?) at any point, then do it, it just rules out one factor of bad quality, giving you not as bad quality as before.
If you feel that mp3's are imperfect, why not just record everything as 24kps/mono? Why don't you? Because they sound worse! Why not use an analog line over an optical one? Because it would sound worse!
This is kinda like my project: Roomjuice
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This is kinda like my project Roomjuice, basically a glorified web frontend to mpg123/ogg123. The home page can be found here, or search for roomjuice on freshmeat.net.
I recenlty bought an SV24. ( $250 from MWave ) A very small barebones PC that's a little larger than a toaster, but kinda noisy. (hopefully I can fix that with maybe a via c3 cpu with no cpu fan and maybe hacking in a quieter case fan) Put Debian linux on it (needs new xfree86 savage driver, or linux locks up hard upon start of x, sound works fine, I used alsa), stuffed in a TV tuner card, 1gz celeron, and dvd drive, loaded roomjuice on it (mentioned above) and some mp3s and voila, a nice little home entertainment PC. Complied mplayer on it, it plays dvd's, avi's, divx movies, mpgs, vcds, etc. Use xawtv to watch tv. (actually I use wmtv for wmaker, mplayers new tv junk wouldn't work:( ) I still have my vcr doing the channel tuning/recording though. Maybe that'll change someday when I have time to figure out a good way make it record like a vcr. Still have to get my remote that came with my tv tuner card working as well. Just haven't had the time yet. I'm currently using a 17" monitor as my viewing device, as it is bigger than my old 13" tv.:) But the SV24 has vga, svideo, and composite out, so you can use whatever. The machine also has 4 usb ports, 2 firewire (well it's technically not called that, heh), serial, paralell, I skipped the installing a floppy drive, who needs em anymore?:) Anyway it's an interesting project, my next thing I guess is to make everything better integrated somehow, so every thing can be controlled via a mouse or other pointing device somehow, and easy enough for my mom to figure out. It's almost there using "gentoo" off of freshmeat. But it would be nice to have a custom program.
Sorry a lot of the above is lot of disconnected information/thoughts, but it's hard to compose a decent post in a 60x10 box that/. gives me, I know, I should just compose everything in vim first, so sue me.:) Why don't people use big text area boxes anyway? The small ones I always annoy me, maybe if you could resize them with mozilla. That would be nice.:)
I have 2 different nvidia cards on two different machines (home and work, gf2 pro and gf2 mx). I've yet to have problems with nvidia drivers breaking after an upgrade, and I always run the latest stable kernel, and Debian sid. Granted I haven't been running linux as my primary os on both of them forever, (maybe about 8 months now).
I love my nvidia cards, you can't beat em if you wanna play quake3.:)
I definitely feel the same way. In the US, if a building is older than 100 it's considered ancient.
I took a few courses in Roman Archaeology in college, I was completely facinated. Granted a lot of the ruins in Rome were reconstructed and built back up. But take something like the current Pantheon, it was built in 126AD (or there abouts) and still stand to this day. It was the largest Dome until the Florence Cathedral in 1420.
Well that's the latest thing man... just make everything you do with the product illegal, everyone will cower in feer, and those that you don't agree with, you can prosecute.
It's genious.
It's a very dangerous thing, but I see it happening more and more. Which is one of the many reasons I switched to a free os awhile back.
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link works for me, try just going to direct.mwave.com and search for SV24.
www.shuttleonline.com for the people who make it and some links to reviews
www.pricewatch.com for other people who sell it (search for SV24)
www.google.com for everything else.:)
SV24 is the case/mobo combo, FV24 is the mobo itself, Shuttle makes it, it's called the "Spacewalker" I believe.
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For a slick looking, small case try this one. $250 for a aluminim toaster sized case with mobo/power supply/fan. All it needs is ram, cpu, hd and dvd drive. On board everything, usb, firewire, s4 savage video (not the best for fps games, but it'll do for everything else), ethernet, sound, ide. I just ordered one today, I just pray they actually have them in stock.:)
It's a little more, but probably a lot more attractive. I plan on putting a tv tuner card and use it for a dvd player/tv/mp3/ogg/mame/etc player for my bedroom. Running linux of course.:)
Thinking about putting a VIA C3 (passivly cooled x86 chip, mmm quiet) in it, but I can't find the 800/866 models for sale anywhere.
Just to let anyone know, use xanim to play it, apt-get install xanim xanim-modules.
My first two tries of mplayer then avifile failed. *sigh*. I uninstalled xanim awhile back because I thought I would no longer need it. Oh well, took me all of 30 seconds to reinstall it.:)
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I own an SV24, bought it about 2 months back. Heat isn't an issue, I put a dvd drive in it, a tv tuner card, 1ghz celery, and 40 gig wd hd (all running Debian linux of course :) Heat isn't an issue even with dnetc running full blast. With all the racket the thing causes, you wouldn't think it would be an issue. A quieter rear and cpu fan would be easy mods, but the loudest fan is probably the small psu fan, which is not going to be easy to replace.
Different power supply, different arrangement of the HDD, rear fan is in a different place, and it sports the word "quiet" on it, which is always welcome. Also the pci slot is straight up, no angle adapter is needed. I kinda like the looks of the front of this one better.
I own a shuttle SV24, nice little box, but it's quite noisy. A better/quieter rear fan is going to be my first mod to it.
I've I'm to forget about the SB Live what's a good sound card to get under linux that supports hardware mixing, and has high quality output, hopefully 4 channel sound and optical out.
I have been using a ymfpci 744 card's ($25, 4 channel sound, hardware mixing, optical out), but their quality is less than stellar. They are downright noisy in windows xp. They're much quieter under linux, but still not perfect, especially with high quality headphones.
I tried turning all sorts of winxp sliders off under xp, but I still get a high pitched whine that changes when I open and close apps.
Is it possible to get what I want without dropping $500 on a professional level card?
Interesting, I have a gf2 gts and everything solid for me. I'm running Debian unstable, so I have the latest and greatest of all the software.
.9.7 sucked ass, jan 7th build is rock solid so far, but anyway, X remains up. I haven't had an X crash that I can remember in probably well over a year. I used to run gnome myself, but I couldn't stand the random crashes, so I switched back to my old stand by of wmaker which was more solid.
What you described sound like a hardware problem. What cpu you have? Do you have a rear case fan? How hot does your cpu get? Try updating your bios to the latest rev and turn off any "turbo mode" your bios may have, maybe disabling agp 4x mode with the nvidia drivers (make sure you have the latest version of these). Or if your linux install is old, you may try upgrading to newer software, and the latest 2.4.17 kernel. Maybe try different ram, if you have two sticks, try taking one out then the other. Or maybe try running http://freshmeat.net/projects/memtest86/ and see if that finds any memory problems.
Try moving your sound card into a different pci slots, I've had that solve weird random crashes before.
I used to have a similar problem with quake3 locking up, but I upgraded my bios, and that made it go away. It can be really frustrating, I know, seeing as how I sank a grand or so in parts awhile ago to build a new linux machine only to have it crash all the time. Fortunately I was able to fix it.
I'm running window maker and mozilla as my browser. Mozilla crashes every now and then,
My Nvidia GF2 GTS card is really solid with the binary nvidia drivers, with pretty darn good performance at that. I definitely wouldn't mind a GF3 though. :)
I don't know why every complains about nvidia cards and their closed source drivers, I've yet to have a problem with them.
Now what exactly are you going to run on Linux that will take advantage of the Geforce 3?
:) I keep plenty entertained with all the Quake3 mods, mostly with soley Q3F. And yes, having that card would be advantageous, since with my GF2 GTS, I can only run at 800x600 with all the quality settings and the framerate I desire when playing Q3F, especially during heavy fire fights. Having antialiasing on probably would be nice too, but crank yer res up to 1600x1280, and then there's no need. :)
Quake3 or RTCW with full eye candy on. Sure there's only two, but really, what else is there?
fact #1: Not all hardware that works under Windows, works and has good support/drivers under Linux.
fact #2 Almost all hardware that works under Linux will work under Windows.
So with that being said, the hardware picked all has Linux users in mind because of fact #1, so therefore, the ultimate Linux system. You can probably use this same hardware for windows due to fact #2.
So what would you call it? "The ultimate System that can be used with Linux and probably Windows"?
I had an gf2 mx, I thought was a bit on the slow side for 32bit color (because of the more narrow memory bandwidth). Bought a gf2 gts which is much better, but I definitely wouldn't mind a gf3.
If you don't mind 640x480 16 bit color, all detail and lighting set to the fastest, and only a half ass framerate, then sure a voodoo3's plenty. Personally, I like full eye candy, at least 800x600, 32 bit color, full detail, and ideally a framerate that doesn't drop below 100. It's all a matter of preference.
RTCW mutliplayer can be absolutely brutal on the hardware (my gf2 mx card choked hard core), but it looks great!
Definitely an interesting link. I've always been sorely dissapointed by the sound output from traditional sound cards. It looks like the only "excellent" card with linux support with the Midiman delta66, and I don't know about you, but dropping $350-500 on a soundcard just seems kinda nuts. I enjoy good sounding audio, but not at audiophile prices. :)
Of course, chances of linux drivers for an external usb device is probably slim to none also... *sigh* I guess I'll just put up with crappy sound for the time being.
But you can try pushing a different distribution at your installfests, and install something I feel's better, more standards compliant for building software from source, more easily upgradable, and doesn't mind cheapbytes selling cd's labeled with their name. I'm of course talking about Debian. I switched to Debian about 2 years ago, and haven't looked back since.
:)
Debian's a little harder to install currently, (that's improving more and more), but any halfway intelligent person should be able to install, by reading the available documentation, which I find quite nice. You just can't be afraid to read and try things. Plus there's always irc.debian.org channel #debian for any other questions you really can't figure out easily without reading through 50 pages of stuff.
One you get everything up and running, installing a new program is as simple as type "apt-get install abiword" or whatever new package you wish. Security issue just come out? 99% of the time you'll be patched by apt-get update && apt-get -u upgrade. You can even upgrade a box through apt-get to a newer debian version. Not more buying cd's again and reinstalling.
I know, I know, it's not really the answer to your question about RedHat licensing, but it does solve the problem, it just solves the problem my way. Which is what you get if you ask me a question.
Feel free to either agree or disagree with me, I don't care. Don't like my solution? Try someone else's, no hard feelings.
Yeah, it's cute little machine. :) I just found out about the via c3 myself, it's a promising lower power, low noise chip, I wish more people would push chips in that direction, as I'm around computers enough that I'm starting to despise how noisy they are, especially if you want to play music where the dynamics actually matter. :) I recently put a zalman flower in my 1.33ghz Athlon box and now the worst thing is that the hard drives make too much noise now!
It's a definite improvement over the Aluminum tornado that I had in the box before, it even runs 6 deg C cooler now.
It's definitely pretty tight, though hacking in your own case fan might solve the airflow problem. I'm not a big fan of case modding, but I believe I might have to make the new case fan my first attempt. :)
:)
The psu fan is still pretty darn noisy though, with the size of the psu, there's no way that's going to be easily replaced.
The big thing about the via c3 is that supposedly the 866's and 933's are out, but I can't find them anywhere for sale. They have a slow fpu (runs at half clock), but that doesn't seem to hurt real world applications that that much suprisingly enough. I'll probably have to try one of those down the road.
Doh, I meant to reply to the parent of this comment's parent, oh well. Looks like I'm having one of those days again. :/
Take a look at this barebones toaster sized machine for $250 available for purchase from here.
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It comes with mobo, and power supply, on board ether, s3 savage4 agp (even tv out), audio (only 2 channel), usb, firewire, plus one pci slot. I personally put a wintv card in it so I can use it as a tv, and a dvd drive to play dvd, but you could easily put in a dolby 5.1 card instead of the wintv card.
I put a 1 ghz celery in it, but as it stands it's rather noisy, casefan + cpu fan + psu fan + hd. But if you get a via c3 it should be able to run without a cpu fan.
It also should be possible to also hack out the small, noisy case fan that it has now and put in larger, and quieter case fan. Dremmel tool is probably required for this one, or a very nimble hand with tin snips.
Another thing you might to do quiet it up a bit is search for silent drives, I think seagate either makes or is going to make a quiet ide drive. There's also sleaves you can get for ide drives to quiet them, but that might require your only 5.25 bay, which means you'd then need a usb or firewire dvd drive.
Mine's more of a do it yourselfer but it has pretty much standard hardware, and should have enough horsepower to do pretty much anything that you'd want to do with it, sans FPS games, because of the slow 3d video. 2d is fine though.
sv24=$250 via c3~$70? hd=$100-150, dvd drive=$60? You pretty much have a machine after that, and any thing else is optional.
That one's about starwars, I think he meant this one
That's my main question that hasn't been answered yet. I like some top 40 stuff, but my real passion in music now has been mostly eletronic based music. Eletronica/trance/goa/house/some dance/jungle/etc. I currently can't get any of that music on the FM band. I have to turn to shoutcast for that. ( www.digitallyimported.com rules btw ) but I can't listen to DI wherever I want, I need bandwidth at that location, which definitely isn't always available.
If XM or SR or whatever it is has this type of music, with a decent DJ's, and someone just didn't push the random eletronic music button, then I'll be all over it.
Oh and the player is going to have to be small (discman sized), so I can carry it around, use it with headphones, hook it up to a friends stereo, hook it up to my car ( why do car stereo makers refuse to put in an external input as standard btw? ), whatever, for $300 a player, I'm not definitely not gonna buy two. (question, if I do buy two, do have to pay two subscriptions? if so, there's no way anyone's gonna fall for it then)
mozilla mail is quite nice and featureful, and you have the ability to turn off javascript in email easily (think it's off by default). suports pop3/imap/and imap-ssl quite nicely. I normally use pine on my linux at work, so I can ssh in from anywhere, no config needed, just putty (ssh client). It works well, I have mozilla mail set up to point at my pine mail dir, and reads all the files in as folders just fine. So I can use pine most of the time, but when I want to view a graphic or something that someone sent me easily, I can just load up moz mail.
Would you rather they used tapes/records that hiss/pop/etc on TOP of the narrow static spectrum of the FM band? If you can transfer data "losslessly" (is that a word?) at any point, then do it, it just rules out one factor of bad quality, giving you not as bad quality as before.
If you feel that mp3's are imperfect, why not just record everything as 24kps/mono? Why don't you? Because they sound worse! Why not use an analog line over an optical one? Because it would sound worse!
I recenlty bought an SV24. ( $250 from MWave ) A very small barebones PC that's a little larger than a toaster, but kinda noisy. (hopefully I can fix that with maybe a via c3 cpu with no cpu fan and maybe hacking in a quieter case fan) Put Debian linux on it (needs new xfree86 savage driver, or linux locks up hard upon start of x, sound works fine, I used alsa), stuffed in a TV tuner card, 1gz celeron, and dvd drive, loaded roomjuice on it (mentioned above) and some mp3s and voila, a nice little home entertainment PC. Complied mplayer on it, it plays dvd's, avi's, divx movies, mpgs, vcds, etc. Use xawtv to watch tv. (actually I use wmtv for wmaker, mplayers new tv junk wouldn't work :( ) I still have my vcr doing the channel tuning/recording though. Maybe that'll change someday when I have time to figure out a good way make it record like a vcr. Still have to get my remote that came with my tv tuner card working as well. Just haven't had the time yet. I'm currently using a 17" monitor as my viewing device, as it is bigger than my old 13" tv. :) But the SV24 has vga, svideo, and composite out, so you can use whatever. The machine also has 4 usb ports, 2 firewire (well it's technically not called that, heh), serial, paralell, I skipped the installing a floppy drive, who needs em anymore? :) Anyway it's an interesting project, my next thing I guess is to make everything better integrated somehow, so every thing can be controlled via a mouse or other pointing device somehow, and easy enough for my mom to figure out. It's almost there using "gentoo" off of freshmeat. But it would be nice to have a custom program.
Sorry a lot of the above is lot of disconnected information/thoughts, but it's hard to compose a decent post in a 60x10 box that /. gives me, I know, I should just compose everything in vim first, so sue me. :) Why don't people use big text area boxes anyway? The small ones I always annoy me, maybe if you could resize them with mozilla. That would be nice. :)
I have 2 different nvidia cards on two different machines (home and work, gf2 pro and gf2 mx). I've yet to have problems with nvidia drivers breaking after an upgrade, and I always run the latest stable kernel, and Debian sid. Granted I haven't been running linux as my primary os on both of them forever, (maybe about 8 months now).
:)
I love my nvidia cards, you can't beat em if you wanna play quake3.
I definitely feel the same way. In the US, if a building is older than 100 it's considered ancient.
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I took a few courses in Roman Archaeology in college, I was completely facinated. Granted a lot of the ruins in Rome were reconstructed and built back up. But take something like the current Pantheon, it was built in 126AD (or there abouts) and still stand to this day. It was the largest Dome until the Florence Cathedral in 1420.
A quick search reveals this page on the Pantheon
http://www.monolithicdome.com/articles/pantheon/
The is just one of the many thing us newbie American don't get to enjoy.
Well that's the latest thing man... just make everything you do with the product illegal, everyone will cower in feer, and those that you don't agree with, you can prosecute.
It's genious.
It's a very dangerous thing, but I see it happening more and more. Which is one of the many reasons I switched to a free os awhile back.
link works for me, try just going to direct.mwave.com and search for SV24.
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www.shuttleonline.com for the people who make it and some links to reviews
www.pricewatch.com for other people who sell it (search for SV24)
www.google.com for everything else.
SV24 is the case/mobo combo, FV24 is the mobo itself, Shuttle makes it, it's called the "Spacewalker" I believe.
For a slick looking, small case try this one. $250 for a aluminim toaster sized case with mobo/power supply/fan. All it needs is ram, cpu, hd and dvd drive. On board everything, usb, firewire, s4 savage video (not the best for fps games, but it'll do for everything else), ethernet, sound, ide. I just ordered one today, I just pray they actually have them in stock. :)
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It's a little more, but probably a lot more attractive. I plan on putting a tv tuner card and use it for a dvd player/tv/mp3/ogg/mame/etc player for my bedroom. Running linux of course.
Thinking about putting a VIA C3 (passivly cooled x86 chip, mmm quiet) in it, but I can't find the 800/866 models for sale anywhere.
Just to let anyone know, use xanim to play it, apt-get install xanim xanim-modules.
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My first two tries of mplayer then avifile failed. *sigh*. I uninstalled xanim awhile back because I thought I would no longer need it. Oh well, took me all of 30 seconds to reinstall it.