Why create something, give it out for free, and then allow businesses to take your work, profit from it, and give nothing back?
Well, do you really want someone to give something back to your project because they have a gun to their head? It seems like there are a lot of commercially supported and viable BSD licensed projects, where the people profiting from the work give back simply because they profit from it, not strictly because they have to.
I'm not going to try and argue the premise that the trend isn't pushed by marketing. But the inarguable fact remains that people are buying more tablet and mobile factor devices. I don't in any way believe that this is PURELY due to hype either. I think that around the time of the iPad and kindle's release, the introduction of iPhones and android phones, there has been a fundamental tipping point in the capabilities of devices in these form factors, such that they are actually useful to consumers and offered at a price that's acceptable whereas 5 or more years ago they were not.
you know for a lot of entertainment purposes I was really happy with my PC from 10 years ago. I now carry something more powerful in my pocket. Am I going to compose my doctoral thesis on it? probably not. But I can use it to take notes, look up facts during discussions, and take pictures and video. I can watch my favorite TV shows on the train, in line at the DMV, or while i eat lunch. I take it with me when I am riding my bike or running, so I can listen to music. When my kid and I are in the waiting room at the doctor's office, he can play angry birds while we wait.
so the point is, the shift is happening, and the reason doesn't matter. Developers could choose to either respond to these changes, or not respond. You can argue with HOW they respond all you like. And you should. But arguing with the fact that developers are responding to a changing computing environment... man. Go back to using your vt100 for a while, because it's still 1978. Desktop PC's will never be cheap nor powerful enough for general use.
Iowa City, IA has wifi on every city bus, as well as realtime gps route tracking.
Perhaps you should implore the Fort Wayne Transit Authority to outfit their buses simlarly?
There are different metrics for these things of course.
Stability in terms of application/desktop crashes is extremely different from stability in terms of cold kernel reboots.
Efficiency could also be taken to mean power consumption or simple execution speed... drive space is cheap, after all, but time is money.
some will swear that Linux is inefficient especially for systems that employ Ext3
EXT3? new distros haven't used EXT3 for several years now. That's like saying "some users might say windows is inefficient for machines using FAT32" I mean sure it's possible but why. However you won't find a windows machine that can run anything close to zfs.
the ultimate reality is that people will always have a desktops as their main storage repository, home automation, and media services.
Just like we all laughed back when it was suggested that someday people might all have wireless phones in their pocket in place of home phone lines...
Oh.
Say what?
All joking aside, there's a definite shift in consumer behavior. This "overblown hype" isn't making something up out of thin air. Whether or not the shift in device types warrants drastic UI redesigns, well, I for one am happy to see the experiments. Invariably some will fail, some will succeed. If they just left it all the same, nobody would complain, but it would also never progress.
You got me cold on point two. Suppose I should have said "construction supplies".
Not sure I follow you on point one. First of all there is evidence to suggest that not only were the Nazis working on the bomb but had conducted actual tests. Second we were racing to the technology, not trying to develop something that everyone already had pointed at us. Third and finally, Iran already is working on and may indeed already have actual nuclear weapons. That program came about as a direct response to the fact that Israel already has them and regularly implies readiness to use them against Iran (despite their general unwillingness to admit that they have them) and that we put Iran in a vice with a war on either side of them, geographically and metaphorically.
Yo dawg I heard you like memes in your memes, so in soviet russia zombie linux badgers imagine a beowulf cluster of you, you insensitive clod!
But, does it blend?
Or, it could be that DIA is learning its lesson and trusting a source that's proved to be credible in the past... you decide which you think is the more likely explanation.
the more expensive and dangerous we make their nuclear program, the more likely they are to give it up.
That would be true if you were dealing with a straightforward external cost-benefit analysis scenario. When speaking of Iran, that's not the case. Iran has enormous internal pressure to keep up the appearance of being a threat to Israel. In order to make that cost-benefit scenario work from a political standpoint, you'd have to make the expense and danger greater than the existing implied threat of being nuked by Israel.
You're absolutely right about the other part, however. If our intel suggests that they've already constructed tunnels of depth X, it may cause their development process to slow down while they re-engineer existing infrastructure, and it will certainly cause them to import more concrete and other building supplies. Various governmental and past-governmental monied interests are well invested in the "international" firms that don't have to abide by the embargoes, and can therefore supply these contracting services and make substantial money from it
There was a time when almost all "hacking" consisted of making boxes that would play specific tones into a payphone handset.
I suppose it's all in your perspective.
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Due to the varying level of sarcasm in your post, my detector's MoE is +/-50% so this remark may be completely irrelevant. When you're discussing compiled languages it's not customary to remove your comments, for two primary reasons.
Comments help a maintainer other than the original author more quickly locate and troubleshoot problem code. This also applies to prolific coders who can't be bothered to remember what they were doing on somerandomlibrary.c three months ago.
Comments are generally removed in the compilation process, and therefore do not add to executable or library overhead.
That said, comments are typically also retained for reason #1 in interpreted and compile-on-run languages. If comments inflate your interpreted script code by 20% or more, you're probably using them ineffectively and they won't serve as much of a guide for a subsequent maintainer anyway. Even at a rather unnecessary 20% level, the average perl or python app is unlikely to exceed a meg in code size, so you'd only be adding in the neighborhood of 200k to your final product, and again for reason #2 this won't negatively impact the runtime footprint.
For things like html, css, and javascript, this is why minifiers exist. However, it does seem like an inordinate number of
"professionals" fail to regularly avail themselves of these tools.
finally...
my uptime isn't anything to brag about right now, lol!
Figure that at least a few and probably dozens of IT staff were called in for OT on a holiday to clean up this mess. Figure also that there were probably some outside consultants called in. Add to this out-of-cycle communications and (non-tech) administrative costs and you're easily in low six figures.
So, if you don't think we should focus on vandalism damages in the $100k range, I'd like your bank account numbers and home address, please. However if that is really your attitude, odds are you don't have anywhere near that in assets.
Add to the above costs that those people called in didn't get to spend a holiday with their families, and that attacks like this amount to private censorship, since its retribution for Frontline reporting things the attackers didn't like, and I think there's plenty of non-monetary reasons to investigate and prosecute this kind of pathetic attempt at manipulation. It's kind of like bribery... sure maybe nobody gets hurt but if it gets out of control, we're in a serious mess (ask china or mexico)
If a threat was part of an intimidation campaign designed to affect public policy, that would be one thing. But a threat against a citizen is a threat against a citizen, regardless of how many popularity contests that citizen wins.
Pointing out that certain figures in the GOP supported the notion at one point in history does not justify it or make it constitutional.
I never said that it did. I was merely correcting the statement that Ted Kennedy somehow birthed it.
I honestly don't care if it's constitutional. It's bad policy. Individual mandates don't work: ask the 25% of California drivers that don't carry auto insurance. Also increasing the demand for something only brings down the cost when you keep the supply fixed or decrease it relative to the demand. Since insurance industry re-regulation is long overdue, there are not substantial requirements in place that the "supply" of insurance policies won't effectively remain infinite. So it wouldn't achieve its objective even if it was realistic.
Just curious, who is the bigger jackass: the guy who takes out the loan he can't pay, or the guy who loans out hundreds of millions of dollars to people he know can't pay him back... because it's not his money!
I don't see anybody suggesting indentured servitude and/or a repeal of the bankruptcy code to help defray the costs imposed on society by jackasses that borrow more money than they can afford to repay.
We bailed out banks that should have been allowed to fail, and as a result millions of poor people are going to be made homeless and hungry. I'm guessing you haven't seen the latest republican budget proposal. There's a punishment coming but it's hitting the wrong people.
but this one is a big improvement over what we had before.
Hardly. In California, drivers are required to have insurance. Yet about 25% of them remain uninsured. The individual mandate doesn't work because it's unenforceable.
The neat thing about McCain is that the guy doesn't actually stand for anything, he's just against whatever the last person that screwed him is for. Seriously, probably the single most vindictive senator in US history.
No sane intelligent person would ever want to be president. It costs a small fortune to even think about running, about a billion to put in a serious run, which is a physical endurance test that makes a marathon look like a leisurely stroll in the park. Your history, your family, your personal life, the kind of breakfast cereal you eat all get put under a microscope.
You can make some minor policy changes but you do anything major and 2/3rds of the country freaks out. You're pretty much guaranteed to be less popular by a large amount when you leave the office than you were before you won it. You suddenly realize that since you're only 1/3rd of the government and that the other two thirds have manpower on their side, you can't really accomplish anything you promised in your campaign without sucking a bunch of congressional dick. Nevertheless about 70% of the decisions you make are life-and-death for someone. You'll age about 10 years per four year term.
Afterwards you get a secret service detail following you around for the rest of your life and you get paid a couple million a year to go around and make speeches and promote your book. If you're lucky, you'll be able to leave the country without facing war crimes charges at the ICC. The 16.2% of the country that voted for you will remember you fondly, while the 16.1% of the country that voted for the other guy will continually blame you for everything wrong from the crabgrass in their lawns to the tax laws passed before you were born. 67.7% of the country will have no fucking clue who you are.
The guy you dormed with at Harvard is a CEO making $200 million a year.
The concept of the individual health insurance mandate originated in 1989 at the conservative Heritage Foundation. In 1993, Republicans twice introduced health care bills that contained an individual health insurance mandate. Advocates for those bills included prominent Republicans who today oppose the mandate including Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Charles Grassley (R-IA), Robert Bennett (R-UT), and Christopher Bond (R-MO).
http://healthcarereform.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004182
I read his article to have two points:
1) devices shouldn't eschew the CLI.
2) admins shouldn't eschew the CLI.
He's not saying "never ever use the GUI" but rather that batching, scripting and pipe-toolchain skills have fallen by the wayside, and that people who ignore those skills are screwing themselves. The reason that the good SQL GUI tools act like CLI's is because there's a CLI underneath, and SQL admins expect to be able to DO all that stuff through their GUI, because they know it's there and how to use it.
Because it is "just a religion" in the same way that ethnic cleansing is just "gentrification of the neighborhood".
I am not aware how much of the Koran you have actually read, but as a book it's not terribly different in its teachings from the bible. Maybe you remember a little thing called the inquisition? That is to say- there is a certain type of adherent that reads the scriptures literally and carries out atrocities in the name of their religion. I am inclined to think that these same people would do crazy things in the absence of a religion to hang their hat on.
So, to the point, while just about every major religion has been used by one side or the other as a justification for all manner of horrible things throughout human history- there still remains the "mainstream" of any given religion which takes the major useful points of the ethos and leaves the "stoning the prostitutes" and other stuff in its history at some point.
Islam is only ~750 years old. Give nature a little time to cull the crazies.
To judge me negatively for this choice seems... odd. Prejudicial. Baseless.
The fact that you have extensive other experience would probably not cause you to be judged negatively. The fact that you obviously didn't read the article before commenting on it seems... Prejudicial. Not all that odd since this is/., but still.
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Why create something, give it out for free, and then allow businesses to take your work, profit from it, and give nothing back?
Well, do you really want someone to give something back to your project because they have a gun to their head? It seems like there are a lot of commercially supported and viable BSD licensed projects, where the people profiting from the work give back simply because they profit from it, not strictly because they have to.
I'm not going to try and argue the premise that the trend isn't pushed by marketing. But the inarguable fact remains that people are buying more tablet and mobile factor devices. I don't in any way believe that this is PURELY due to hype either. I think that around the time of the iPad and kindle's release, the introduction of iPhones and android phones, there has been a fundamental tipping point in the capabilities of devices in these form factors, such that they are actually useful to consumers and offered at a price that's acceptable whereas 5 or more years ago they were not.
you know for a lot of entertainment purposes I was really happy with my PC from 10 years ago. I now carry something more powerful in my pocket. Am I going to compose my doctoral thesis on it? probably not. But I can use it to take notes, look up facts during discussions, and take pictures and video. I can watch my favorite TV shows on the train, in line at the DMV, or while i eat lunch. I take it with me when I am riding my bike or running, so I can listen to music. When my kid and I are in the waiting room at the doctor's office, he can play angry birds while we wait.
so the point is, the shift is happening, and the reason doesn't matter. Developers could choose to either respond to these changes, or not respond. You can argue with HOW they respond all you like. And you should. But arguing with the fact that developers are responding to a changing computing environment... man. Go back to using your vt100 for a while, because it's still 1978. Desktop PC's will never be cheap nor powerful enough for general use.
Iowa City, IA has wifi on every city bus, as well as realtime gps route tracking. Perhaps you should implore the Fort Wayne Transit Authority to outfit their buses simlarly?
There are different metrics for these things of course.
Stability in terms of application/desktop crashes is extremely different from stability in terms of cold kernel reboots.
Efficiency could also be taken to mean power consumption or simple execution speed... drive space is cheap, after all, but time is money.
some will swear that Linux is inefficient especially for systems that employ Ext3
EXT3? new distros haven't used EXT3 for several years now. That's like saying "some users might say windows is inefficient for machines using FAT32" I mean sure it's possible but why. However you won't find a windows machine that can run anything close to zfs.
the ultimate reality is that people will always have a desktops as their main storage repository, home automation, and media services.
Just like we all laughed back when it was suggested that someday people might all have wireless phones in their pocket in place of home phone lines...
Oh.
Say what?
All joking aside, there's a definite shift in consumer behavior. This "overblown hype" isn't making something up out of thin air. Whether or not the shift in device types warrants drastic UI redesigns, well, I for one am happy to see the experiments. Invariably some will fail, some will succeed. If they just left it all the same, nobody would complain, but it would also never progress.
You got me cold on point two. Suppose I should have said "construction supplies". Not sure I follow you on point one. First of all there is evidence to suggest that not only were the Nazis working on the bomb but had conducted actual tests. Second we were racing to the technology, not trying to develop something that everyone already had pointed at us. Third and finally, Iran already is working on and may indeed already have actual nuclear weapons. That program came about as a direct response to the fact that Israel already has them and regularly implies readiness to use them against Iran (despite their general unwillingness to admit that they have them) and that we put Iran in a vice with a war on either side of them, geographically and metaphorically.
Yo dawg I heard you like memes in your memes, so in soviet russia zombie linux badgers imagine a beowulf cluster of you, you insensitive clod! But, does it blend?
Or, it could be that DIA is learning its lesson and trusting a source that's proved to be credible in the past... you decide which you think is the more likely explanation.
the more expensive and dangerous we make their nuclear program, the more likely they are to give it up.
That would be true if you were dealing with a straightforward external cost-benefit analysis scenario. When speaking of Iran, that's not the case. Iran has enormous internal pressure to keep up the appearance of being a threat to Israel. In order to make that cost-benefit scenario work from a political standpoint, you'd have to make the expense and danger greater than the existing implied threat of being nuked by Israel.
You're absolutely right about the other part, however. If our intel suggests that they've already constructed tunnels of depth X, it may cause their development process to slow down while they re-engineer existing infrastructure, and it will certainly cause them to import more concrete and other building supplies. Various governmental and past-governmental monied interests are well invested in the "international" firms that don't have to abide by the embargoes, and can therefore supply these contracting services and make substantial money from it
Cheney, I'm looking at you.
There was a time when almost all "hacking" consisted of making boxes that would play specific tones into a payphone handset. I suppose it's all in your perspective.
Due to the varying level of sarcasm in your post, my detector's MoE is +/-50% so this remark may be completely irrelevant. When you're discussing compiled languages it's not customary to remove your comments, for two primary reasons.
That said, comments are typically also retained for reason #1 in interpreted and compile-on-run languages. If comments inflate your interpreted script code by 20% or more, you're probably using them ineffectively and they won't serve as much of a guide for a subsequent maintainer anyway. Even at a rather unnecessary 20% level, the average perl or python app is unlikely to exceed a meg in code size, so you'd only be adding in the neighborhood of 200k to your final product, and again for reason #2 this won't negatively impact the runtime footprint.
For things like html, css, and javascript, this is why minifiers exist. However, it does seem like an inordinate number of "professionals" fail to regularly avail themselves of these tools.
finally...
my uptime isn't anything to brag about right now, lol!
Sure didn't seem to stop you!
...there's a legion of silverlight developers.
Figure that at least a few and probably dozens of IT staff were called in for OT on a holiday to clean up this mess. Figure also that there were probably some outside consultants called in. Add to this out-of-cycle communications and (non-tech) administrative costs and you're easily in low six figures.
So, if you don't think we should focus on vandalism damages in the $100k range, I'd like your bank account numbers and home address, please. However if that is really your attitude, odds are you don't have anywhere near that in assets.
Add to the above costs that those people called in didn't get to spend a holiday with their families, and that attacks like this amount to private censorship, since its retribution for Frontline reporting things the attackers didn't like, and I think there's plenty of non-monetary reasons to investigate and prosecute this kind of pathetic attempt at manipulation. It's kind of like bribery... sure maybe nobody gets hurt but if it gets out of control, we're in a serious mess (ask china or mexico)
You're either with the people who have polarizing world views, or you're against them.
Then we could write an interface once, at the operating system level, get it right
That *would* be the first step, wouldn't it?
Please for god's sake tell me you are kidding.
If a threat was part of an intimidation campaign designed to affect public policy, that would be one thing. But a threat against a citizen is a threat against a citizen, regardless of how many popularity contests that citizen wins.
Pointing out that certain figures in the GOP supported the notion at one point in history does not justify it or make it constitutional.
I never said that it did. I was merely correcting the statement that Ted Kennedy somehow birthed it.
I honestly don't care if it's constitutional. It's bad policy. Individual mandates don't work: ask the 25% of California drivers that don't carry auto insurance. Also increasing the demand for something only brings down the cost when you keep the supply fixed or decrease it relative to the demand. Since insurance industry re-regulation is long overdue, there are not substantial requirements in place that the "supply" of insurance policies won't effectively remain infinite. So it wouldn't achieve its objective even if it was realistic.
Just curious, who is the bigger jackass: the guy who takes out the loan he can't pay, or the guy who loans out hundreds of millions of dollars to people he know can't pay him back... because it's not his money!
I don't see anybody suggesting indentured servitude and/or a repeal of the bankruptcy code to help defray the costs imposed on society by jackasses that borrow more money than they can afford to repay.
We bailed out banks that should have been allowed to fail, and as a result millions of poor people are going to be made homeless and hungry. I'm guessing you haven't seen the latest republican budget proposal. There's a punishment coming but it's hitting the wrong people.
but this one is a big improvement over what we had before.
Hardly. In California, drivers are required to have insurance. Yet about 25% of them remain uninsured. The individual mandate doesn't work because it's unenforceable.
The neat thing about McCain is that the guy doesn't actually stand for anything, he's just against whatever the last person that screwed him is for. Seriously, probably the single most vindictive senator in US history.
No sane intelligent person would ever want to be president. It costs a small fortune to even think about running, about a billion to put in a serious run, which is a physical endurance test that makes a marathon look like a leisurely stroll in the park. Your history, your family, your personal life, the kind of breakfast cereal you eat all get put under a microscope.
You can make some minor policy changes but you do anything major and 2/3rds of the country freaks out. You're pretty much guaranteed to be less popular by a large amount when you leave the office than you were before you won it. You suddenly realize that since you're only 1/3rd of the government and that the other two thirds have manpower on their side, you can't really accomplish anything you promised in your campaign without sucking a bunch of congressional dick. Nevertheless about 70% of the decisions you make are life-and-death for someone. You'll age about 10 years per four year term.
Afterwards you get a secret service detail following you around for the rest of your life and you get paid a couple million a year to go around and make speeches and promote your book. If you're lucky, you'll be able to leave the country without facing war crimes charges at the ICC. The 16.2% of the country that voted for you will remember you fondly, while the 16.1% of the country that voted for the other guy will continually blame you for everything wrong from the crabgrass in their lawns to the tax laws passed before you were born. 67.7% of the country will have no fucking clue who you are.
The guy you dormed with at Harvard is a CEO making $200 million a year.
civil service is for schmucks.
The concept of the individual health insurance mandate originated in 1989 at the conservative Heritage Foundation. In 1993, Republicans twice introduced health care bills that contained an individual health insurance mandate. Advocates for those bills included prominent Republicans who today oppose the mandate including Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Charles Grassley (R-IA), Robert Bennett (R-UT), and Christopher Bond (R-MO). http://healthcarereform.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004182
I read his article to have two points: 1) devices shouldn't eschew the CLI. 2) admins shouldn't eschew the CLI. He's not saying "never ever use the GUI" but rather that batching, scripting and pipe-toolchain skills have fallen by the wayside, and that people who ignore those skills are screwing themselves. The reason that the good SQL GUI tools act like CLI's is because there's a CLI underneath, and SQL admins expect to be able to DO all that stuff through their GUI, because they know it's there and how to use it.
Because it is "just a religion" in the same way that ethnic cleansing is just "gentrification of the neighborhood".
I am not aware how much of the Koran you have actually read, but as a book it's not terribly different in its teachings from the bible. Maybe you remember a little thing called the inquisition? That is to say- there is a certain type of adherent that reads the scriptures literally and carries out atrocities in the name of their religion. I am inclined to think that these same people would do crazy things in the absence of a religion to hang their hat on.
So, to the point, while just about every major religion has been used by one side or the other as a justification for all manner of horrible things throughout human history- there still remains the "mainstream" of any given religion which takes the major useful points of the ethos and leaves the "stoning the prostitutes" and other stuff in its history at some point.
Islam is only ~750 years old. Give nature a little time to cull the crazies.
To judge me negatively for this choice seems... odd. Prejudicial. Baseless.
The fact that you have extensive other experience would probably not cause you to be judged negatively. The fact that you obviously didn't read the article before commenting on it seems... Prejudicial. Not all that odd since this is /., but still.