Blowing the cover of a CIA agent because you're pissed
What cover was that, pray tell? She hadn't been an operative for the five years previous to people finding out in the press that she worked for the CIA! There was no cover to blow!
Is it that she was married to Joe Wilson? He had it on his freakin bio in 2002!
The "international community"? Like the UN? The same UN that does this sort of thing?
Clinton did blow it (excuse the pun) when it came to Rwanda.
FEMA did well in Florida because Florida was prepared to handle things. Local and State government. In Louisana, they failed, and blamed it on the feds. That's the real difference.
Failure at the state and local government level doesn't automatically translate be able to push the blame off on the federal government. You can really tell how well the state and local governments prepared, compared to the way Florida has done for Wilma.
But, if you want to think that way, the feds got there in three days for Katrina, and Clinton took five days to get anything going for Andrew. Maybe you're right. Clinton was definately to blame for that.
Whoever knowingly displays any printed or other likeness of
the great seal of the United States, or of the seals of the
President or the Vice President of the United States, or the seal
of the United States Senate, or the seal of the United States House
of Representatives, or the seal of the United States Congress, or
any facsimile thereof, in, or in connection with, any
advertisement, poster, circular, book, pamphlet, or other
publication, public meeting, play, motion picture, telecast, or
other production, or on any building, monument, or stationery, for
the purpose of conveying, or in a manner reasonably calculated to
convey, a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the
Government of the United States or by any department, agency, or
instrumentality thereof, shall be fined under this title or
imprisoned not more than six months, or both.
Doesn't say a thing about "so long as a reasonabl person won't confuse it with official endorsement". Not sure where you got that.
The seal is the property of the people of the United States of America. It's not copyrightable, it's not trademarked, and satire is protected speech under the constitution.
Now, don't get me wrong; I don't get this law AT ALL. I think it's kinda goofy. Then again, there are goofy laws all over the world.
Anyway, satire doesn't overrule everything; if it did then people would use that as an excuse for dang near everything they do.
Some people do hide behind satire as a way of expressing their political opinions. Frankly, I think that's pretty cowardly, because it's not satire. It's just plain old libel, hiding behind a satire label. Go check out the spine of various "political" books, and you'll see what I mean.
To be clear, I *DO NOT* think The Onion falls into this category. They're in it for the humor of the situation, no matter who or what they're writing about.
All that, and nothing on the genocide in Rwanda? We did exactly what you've been suggesting, and we all know how well that worked out for all those murdered people.
Pull your head out of your ass. If people are being repressed around the world, it's EVERYONE'S responsibility to make sure they're free.
Someone's getting mugged on the street, and your solution is to just stand by and let it happen and don't do anything to help? What the fuck is wrong with you?
Iraqis dying faster? Wrong bud. There were 370 bombings last during the elections last January. Today there were 13.
If you want to support Osama's plan for taking over Iraq with insurgents, and making it an radical religous Islamic state despite the wishes of it's people, then that's up to you.
I'd rather see a free Iraq with the new government they're putting in, not the repressive government they put in there.
Leftist "compassion". You've once again proved it's a bunch of fucking crap.
You're a moron. If you believe that Saddam should have been left in power to continue the torture and other mayhem he caused, you're a racist Iraqi hating moron.
I'm happy the Iraqi people had their elections today, but if it were up to people like you they'd still be under a dictatorship. That's pretty sad.
Ah, just gotta love the racist haters on the Left. Would rather see people be thrown into paper shredders and the Kurds wiped out under Saddam than lift a finger to help them. Like Clinton did in Rwanda...millions dead, because trying to stop genocide would be *wrong*!
For all this talk about helping people in the world, that's all it is. Talk.
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What cover was that, pray tell? She hadn't been an operative for the five years previous to people finding out in the press that she worked for the CIA! There was no cover to blow!
Is it that she was married to Joe Wilson? He had it on his freakin bio in 2002!
Check this out from http://www.mideasti.org/html/bio-wilson.html">Int
The "international community"? Like the UN? The same UN that does this sort of thing?
Clinton did blow it (excuse the pun) when it came to Rwanda.
FEMA did well in Florida because Florida was prepared to handle things. Local and State government. In Louisana, they failed, and blamed it on the feds. That's the real difference.
...and in other news, smoking causes cancer!
But, if you want to think that way, the feds got there in three days for Katrina, and Clinton took five days to get anything going for Andrew. Maybe you're right. Clinton was definately to blame for that.
From:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/18
Whoever knowingly displays any printed or other likeness of
the great seal of the United States, or of the seals of the
President or the Vice President of the United States, or the seal
of the United States Senate, or the seal of the United States House
of Representatives, or the seal of the United States Congress, or
any facsimile thereof, in, or in connection with, any
advertisement, poster, circular, book, pamphlet, or other
publication, public meeting, play, motion picture, telecast, or
other production, or on any building, monument, or stationery, for
the purpose of conveying, or in a manner reasonably calculated to
convey, a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the
Government of the United States or by any department, agency, or
instrumentality thereof, shall be fined under this title or
imprisoned not more than six months, or both.
Doesn't say a thing about "so long as a reasonabl person won't confuse it with official endorsement". Not sure where you got that.
Wrong.
Here's a link to the law:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/18
Actually, you're incorrect:
/ parts/i/chapters/33/sections/section_713.html
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/18
If I had mod points right now, I'd give 'em to you. Good post.
Actually, no, that's not the case:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/18
Now, don't get me wrong; I don't get this law AT ALL. I think it's kinda goofy. Then again, there are goofy laws all over the world.
Anyway, satire doesn't overrule everything; if it did then people would use that as an excuse for dang near everything they do.
Some people do hide behind satire as a way of expressing their political opinions. Frankly, I think that's pretty cowardly, because it's not satire. It's just plain old libel, hiding behind a satire label. Go check out the spine of various "political" books, and you'll see what I mean.
To be clear, I *DO NOT* think The Onion falls into this category. They're in it for the humor of the situation, no matter who or what they're writing about.
What's new about this? This law has been on the books for years:
/ parts/i/chapters/33/sections/section_713.html
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/18
Netscape never wrote a browser in Java. They did deploy perhaps the most poorly implemented version of Java FOR a browser...well, ever.
I mean, HotJava (the all-Java browser that Sun wrote) ran applets more quickly that Netscape ever did.
Besides, as someone pointed out, marca sits on the board of Zend... Not exactly unbiased on this whole topic.
There are more things wrong with the UN than people think.
You mean like this, or this?
Yeah, they really have the market cornered on rhetoric.
I think you just answered my question.
All that, and nothing on the genocide in Rwanda? We did exactly what you've been suggesting, and we all know how well that worked out for all those murdered people.
Like Rwanda, right? That worked out just GREAT for those people.
Glad you finally see it my way.
Nope, free to govern themselves without people like you wanting them to be governed by dictatorships.
Pull your racist head out of your ass, and deal with the fact that the people of Iraq are free.
You, for whatever bizarre reason, want them to have continue under Saddam. That's pretty sick, and speaks a lot for what your world view is.
Pretty damn sad.
First record companies say that they want a cut of iPod sales, and Apple says "Oooooo, that's bad! Can't do that!"
Now they're turning around and telling add-on companies they want to do the same thing???
Geesh
All your talk is just Blah Blah Blah.
We ARE able to do things, and we did. I'm glad we did, and millions of Iraqis are free.
Left up to you, they wouldn't be.
That's the bottom line.
Pull your head out of your ass. If people are being repressed around the world, it's EVERYONE'S responsibility to make sure they're free.
Someone's getting mugged on the street, and your solution is to just stand by and let it happen and don't do anything to help? What the fuck is wrong with you?
Iraqis dying faster? Wrong bud. There were 370 bombings last during the elections last January. Today there were 13.
If you want to support Osama's plan for taking over Iraq with insurgents, and making it an radical religous Islamic state despite the wishes of it's people, then that's up to you.
I'd rather see a free Iraq with the new government they're putting in, not the repressive government they put in there.
Leftist "compassion". You've once again proved it's a bunch of fucking crap.
You're a moron. If you believe that Saddam should have been left in power to continue the torture and other mayhem he caused, you're a racist Iraqi hating moron.
I'm happy the Iraqi people had their elections today, but if it were up to people like you they'd still be under a dictatorship. That's pretty sad.
Ah, just gotta love the racist haters on the Left. Would rather see people be thrown into paper shredders and the Kurds wiped out under Saddam than lift a finger to help them. Like Clinton did in Rwanda...millions dead, because trying to stop genocide would be *wrong*!
For all this talk about helping people in the world, that's all it is. Talk.
Do you mean this Tango, or something else?
Just curious....What color is the sky on your planet?